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Title: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 04:56 PM 2020
with this corona virus i understand that a lot of people are out of work and income is vital...

i also understand not many people have a lot of money to spend on roulette...but also understand the need to earn something..

so i,ll put this forward with no clues and no hints with a bankroll of 350 units...and just explain outright how you may achieve money with the patience of a stone..playing roulette...

a game can last 10 spins or 250 spins...each game is is reset on an even start balance or in plus..even if its only one unit.....there is no stop loss...either you win or you lose a bankroll....

you are in it to win it...he who dares wins...

a unit will be a unit..be it .10p or £100 there is no stoploss there is no win target..there is only the bankroll you are willing to risk....and the main thing is time invested...

this is only one method i use...

triple bankroll then double units..

or just go for it and compound winnings...

a safe player is not a gambler...this is not gambling..but letting the results tell you what to bet...this in this method is repeats telling you..its all flatbetting and although increases are made on certain bets its only what is being dictated by the flow of results...

there are more options believe me...roulette is all about unhits repeats..uniques ...but this will hopefully help a lot of of people beyond my thread 37 back to basics...

its a technique how to bet on numbers to repeat when first shown...sergio i know you are going to read this and this is to help you too..

this i repeat is one method i use....

its the simplest...

all stems from the things ive learnt from different ideas..from turbo ..vaddi...talos...dyslexic..and jake..former member jake cht aka luckyfella..and kimo li...thanks for the book

ok i,m waffling and probably talking nonsense....players always say every number will show in a certain amount of spins...not correct by the way...BUT the numbers that Have shown ..the majority will HAVE a repeat within a set amount of spins...not all but virtually most...

so how to capitalize on this...

how can you work this out...

i,ll explain this one aspect of the game...as i think this is all most people will need..

THIS is the combination of a few things put into perspective...and this is one side only..don,t get me started on pris funny sequences or cycles..

you can progress further if you want but YOU can do that yourself

this is all i,m willing to give

remember patience of a stone..

OK thats out of the way

NOW lets get started...even newbies can do this....

THIS IS A FLOW BET...

you cannot win on set parameters unless you can flow ..


you will write down the numbers as they come ...every two numbers is a pair.....

like vaddi...

numbers 25..2...35...22  36..26...1...12...18...29...11...28...
will be written as

25/2
35/22
36/26
1/12
18/29
11/28

thats it...

now...lets say we have a repeat..no 18...you now bet 29


keep that bet on every spin...


next repeat is 22

bet the forward number which is 36.....

keep constantly on these numbers and every number that is dictated...

if a number is is taken forward bet the one backwards...

if thats taken remove the bet off the table...if a forward number is bet on and the number in front hits a third repeat the add another unit on it...same backwards if the number in front is repeat and hits again..and its forward number is already a repeat...with a repeat in front of it...

IF a number repeats as your playing say 14 hits twice so there is no forward number..then look at the first number spun...if its not a repeat bet that...if it is then its no bet until the next unrepeated number is out...

this is a flow chart basically of vaddi not a set chart....which should in the main encompass islands but not in the usual way...

it uses turbos repeats as a base...

it uses the flow of the table for bets

it uses the main outcomes that most numbers will repeat once in 200 spins that have shown...

a number may repeat 4 or 5 times which means that if the forward or backward number hasn,t hit will have a large amount of units on it ...

other numbers may have one unit on it but overall it ticks along until in profit..

there is no progression...it takes advantage of what must happen..most games are under 37 spins...a few games are 200 spins or slightly above u can cut off at any time and start again....you do not need every number out..or repeated..to end the game...only profit...your enemy is boredom

always remember when a number is repeated take it off the betting and use the pairs that are flowing and use that repeated numbers forward or backward where applicable...if not applicable as both forward and backward have already repeated..then theres no bet from that hit number..

always remember you cannot win unless a number has shown

always reset when in profit..
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 05:05 PM 2020
forgot to add a number taken forward or backwards IS A REPEATED NUMBER not a unique
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 13, 05:31 PM 2020
Hello 6TH-SENSE, thanks for share .
So for starting the game we have to take a fixed range (12 numbers) and play them when we have a trigger (repeater) following your indication paired etc..?
Thanks
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: huskerdu on Apr 13, 05:49 PM 2020
I cannot see any logic behind this system.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 05:50 PM 2020
No 12 just follow instructions

There is no logic buddy in your understanding try it and see them comment
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 06:07 PM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 13, 05:31 PM 2020
Hello 6TH-SENSE, thanks for share .
So for starting the game we have to take a fixed range (12 numbers) and play them when we have a trigger (repeater) following your indication paired etc..?
Thanks

Just re read that ..the example I have given is 12 but it’s not it’s continuous
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 06:13 PM 2020
It works by only numbers out and for the 2nd repeat to close ..you can’t bet in this way on unrepeated ..ie the pairing list  is your guide for the closure

No logic except if anyone ever saw my 18 wheeler excel sheet or the rpro software you would see a number and numbers out before or after are like in there

Logic is there but not for the uninitiated
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 13, 06:22 PM 2020
Good initiative, 6th!

You had a great idea with this. I agree too that during these times many people are losing their jobs or being underpaid! So, congrats for the idea of posting your strategy.

Tomorrow I will open a new thread (I don't want to hijack yours) and I will post the way I play.

I also think that everyone who has a solid system/strategy should do this in order to help the ones that really need it. So, let's cut the crap with giving clues or small hints all over this forum in order for a bright mind to put them all together in a few years... let's open up and really help...
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 14, 02:26 AM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 13, 05:31 PM 2020
Hello 6TH-SENSE, thanks for share .
So for starting the game we have to take a fixed range (12 numbers) and play them when we have a trigger (repeater) following your indication paired etc..?
Thanks

i,ll give a working example today with step by step instructions

meanwhile look at this pic..this is the main ..every number out here in 200 spins has one repeat...

this is what you are aiming to capture...you don,t need all only enough to be in profit and start again
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jono1167 on Apr 14, 05:14 AM 2020
Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 14, 02:26 AM 2020
i,ll give a working example today with step by step instructions

meanwhile look at this pic..this is the main ..every number out here in 200 spins has one repeat...

this is what you are aiming to capture...you don,t need all only enough to be in profit and start again

The information on pairing has been really useful. In the past I’ve put a lot of work into pairs and it’s interesting to see how far off I was.  Appreciating all of the help you’re offering here.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 2BobBet on Apr 14, 05:55 AM 2020
Same here never looked at pairing from the spun numbers  O0
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 14, 06:44 AM 2020
Waiting for 6TH-SENSE example i've made some experiments, playing looking at the totem , when a number repeat playing forward number, just adding number when in my totem range another repeat comes and following 6TH rules delete when hit, bet backward if occupied etc etc . 1 unit bet, until now from 500 units to 1143 units flat bet obviously in 30 min game (rng fast game just for testing)
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Korg on Apr 14, 07:45 AM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 14, 06:44 AM 2020
Waiting for 6TH-SENSE example i've made some experiments, playing looking at the totem , when a number repeat playing forward number, just adding number when in my totem range another repeat comes and following 6TH rules delete when hit, bet backward if occupied etc etc . 1 unit bet, until now from 500 units to 1143 units flat bet obviously in 30 min game (rng fast game just for testing)

Well....totem range?...8/12/24? or.....

6TH-SENSE, this system is so close to Vaddi method

Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 14, 08:03 AM 2020
Quote from: Korg on Apr 14, 07:45 AM 2020
Well....totem range?...8/12/24? or.....

6TH-SENSE, this system is so close to Vaddi method

Now i'm looking at 13 numbers because the totem have 13 numbers...but maybe 12 its ok? Or 8 ? Have to try
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 14, 08:17 AM 2020
Update, using 8 range reached 1337 units
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jono1167 on Apr 14, 06:23 PM 2020
Recent test session
21/9
24/15
6/25
4/22
18/25      (25 repeats. Place one unit on #4)
1/7
11/25     (25 repeats again. Please see my question below).

In your instructions you say "IF a number repeats as your playing say 14 hits twice so there is no forward number..then look at the first number spun...if its not a repeat bet that...if it is then its no bet until the next unrepeated number is out..."

Can you clarify this please? When you say, "then look at the first number spun...if its not a repeat bet that". Does that mean I return to number 21 (first number spun)?

Thanks Sixth.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 14, 07:57 PM 2020
Good question indeed...

Instinctively, if following the same idea of ''following the wheel'', I'd be tempted to look at the other 25 occurrence and bet the next too, so nr.1?

We'll see what he thinks.

This is an interesting thread!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 15, 12:56 AM 2020
Quote from: jono1167 on Apr 14, 06:23 PM 2020
Recent test session
21/9
24/15
6/25
4/22
18/25      (25 repeats. Place one unit on #4)
1/7
11/25     (25 repeats again. Please see my question below).

In your instructions you say "IF a number repeats as your playing say 14 hits twice so there is no forward number..then look at the first number spun...if its not a repeat bet that...if it is then its no bet until the next unrepeated number is out..."

Can you clarify this please? When you say, "then look at the first number spun...if its not a repeat bet that". Does that mean I return to number 21 (first number spun)?

Thanks Sixth.

Tried to use video software for an example but won’t work..

You can’t write 25 down twice it’s already out..if it repeats there first number spun forward is 21..think of it like 0/1 36/0 to link the loop
The second repeat after 11 only means you go back to the original repeat and bet the number forward ie number 1..
If it repeats again and number 1 iisnt taken put an extra. Unit  on it

If it’s taken bet number backwards. ..if that’s taken then no bet ..

Anyone can tweak or adjust method to their own play now they know they are looking at
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 01:15 AM 2020
Tried a dozen of tiny games for fun on RS, which I hadn't done in months.  All went in the green before 37 spins.  More than half on first hit.

Interesting.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Airball1023 on Apr 15, 01:36 AM 2020
Hi Guys, I also play this method but with more numbers, example neighbors of the forward/backward, opposite and n +1 and n -1 too. You can see good results soon without waiting long.   

However as it mention by 6th Sense, I would like to test with less numbers; please explain this a bit with number examples;
----"if a number is is taken forward bet the one backwards"----
It means;
25/2
35/22
36/26
1/12
18/29
11/28
18/18
18...you now bet 29 (forward of 18) --- loss, 18 come again, then your betting will be... 29 again, 12 (backward), 28 (backward), and 18 again since new forward??? Is this correct? if wrong please explain with numbers.
Thanks!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 15, 03:19 AM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 01:15 AM 2020
Tried a dozen of tiny games for fun on RS, which I hadn't done in months.  All went in the green before 37 spins.  More than half on first hit.

Interesting.

Hi Big, can you describe your games please? Thanks
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 01:29 PM 2020
So.  One example.  Copied from RS.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 15, 01:46 PM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 01:29 PM 2020
So.  One example.  Copied from RS.

Perfect , thanks.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 02:08 PM 2020
Another.

6th might do it differently in the last 2 spins, though.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 02:22 PM 2020
Follow4 was a bit forward/backward but hit quick.

All these 4 were consecutive.  Had one game in 20 go up to 41 spins.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 15, 02:27 PM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 02:08 PM 2020
Another.

6th might do it differently in the last 2 spins, though.

Thanks again, i'm trying to play with a range , so no need to track, but i'll try also with total track
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 15, 02:29 PM 2020
BIGBROBEN you're tracking with an excel file?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 02:36 PM 2020
No I am not.  I enter manually for the trials.  What do you mean by range?  Tepeater within a certain range?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 15, 02:57 PM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 02:36 PM 2020
No I am not.  I enter manually for the trials.  What do you mean by range?  Tepeater within a certain range?

Yes like Vaddi's style, looking only at the marquee range 12. But i don't know if can be a good thing or not
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 15, 03:28 PM 2020
Now i'm trying with range 8 but... in this case when two numbers hits consecutively idk if i have to bet backward or forward... in this case all two hits  LOL
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 15, 03:44 PM 2020
Until now good results with range 12, not good with 8.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 05:06 PM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 14, 06:44 AM 2020
Waiting for 6TH-SENSE example i've made some experiments, playing looking at the totem , when a number repeat playing forward number, just adding number when in my totem range another repeat comes and following 6TH rules delete when hit, bet backward if occupied etc etc . 1 unit bet, until now from 500 units to 1143 units flat bet obviously in 30 min game (rng fast game just for testing)

Nichedelico, please define totem.  How did this game turn out?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 16, 04:43 AM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 15, 05:06 PM 2020
Nichedelico, please define totem.  How did this game turn out?

I put in game just the numbers i can see in a marquee of 12 numbers, same like 6TH but without tracking all the repeaters from the first number of the session but just numbers in my range...however i thin is better the original way from 6TH
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 16, 07:16 AM 2020
Fiou!  Right on 37th spin.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 16, 08:27 AM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 16, 07:16 AM 2020
Fiou!  Right on 37th spin.

Great Big, can you please explain better with an example this?   "if thats taken remove the bet off the table...if a forward number is bet on and the number in front hits a third repeat the add another unit on it...same backwards if the number in front is repeat and hits again..and its forward number is already a repeat...with a repeat in front of it..."

I understand bet backwards or add 1 unit but  the term "in front" give me trouble, thanks
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: JahVinci on Apr 16, 09:15 AM 2020
Hi Guys,

Can someone please summarize the way to play in a clear way? Maybe with example.

Thank you
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: quos on Apr 16, 10:11 AM 2020
6th please, some examples........some situations create confusion.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 03:36 AM 2020

15 games won out of 15 on RS
congratulations 6th  sense
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Sunburstsoon on Apr 17, 05:14 AM 2020
Can some explain this with numbers please.im having a hard time understanding it. When is extra chips placed? Because I thought if the forward number and backward never is taken them there is no bet?

..if a forward number is bet on and the number in front hits a third repeat the add another unit on it...same backwards if the number in front is repeat and hits again..and its forward number is already a repeat...with a repeat in front of it...
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 08:57 AM 2020

20/20  on RS  375 unit
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 17, 09:05 AM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 17, 08:57 AM 2020
20/20  on RS  375 unit

Flat bet?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 09:10 AM 2020

of course!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 17, 09:14 AM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 17, 08:57 AM 2020
20/20  on RS  375 unit

Plolp, if in 26 spins you have no hit you cut all the bet exept the last one?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 17, 09:23 AM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 17, 09:14 AM 2020
Plolp, if in 26 spins you have no hit you cut all the bet exept the last one?

Awesome! Good for you

I'm still waiting for some step-by-step way of play. I don't think I understood 6th explanations very well. A part of them are clear, but in the end it's confusing!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 09:24 AM 2020
26 spins is not the problem

i don't want to play more than 5 numbers

As soon as a 6 th number must be played, I start again with the last repeat
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 17, 09:26 AM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 17, 09:24 AM 2020
26 spins is not the problem

i don't want to play more than 5 numbers

As soon as a 6 th number must be played, I start again with the last repeat

Great thank you very much
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: quos on Apr 17, 09:33 AM 2020
In example attached, number 32 repeats, what number would you add to the bets since 7 is already there, number 29?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 17, 09:40 AM 2020
Quote from: quos on Apr 17, 09:33 AM 2020
In example attached, number 32 repeats, what number would you add to the bets since 7 is already there, number 29?

Thanks!!

7 in not betted, repeated yes but not betted so bet 7. (that's what i've understood)
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 09:50 AM 2020

like i told you, i want to play as few numbers as possible
so i play  7-11-13-15
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: quos on Apr 17, 09:53 AM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 17, 09:40 AM 2020
7 in not betted, repeated yes but not betted so bet 7. (that's what i've understood)

Nichedelico!. Number 7 is being betted from spin 14.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: quos on Apr 17, 09:55 AM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 17, 09:50 AM 2020
like i told you, i want to play as few numbers as possible
so i play  7-11-13-15

So, wouldn't you add number 29 to your bet?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 17, 10:00 AM 2020
Quote from: quos on Apr 17, 09:53 AM 2020
Nichedelico!. Number 7 is being betted from spin 14.

Yeah sorry my bad  :xd:
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 10:15 AM 2020
@ quos

that's what I said  .

Frankly this is a point of details, the most important is to understand the idea of the method.

The explanations (although delirious) of "dysclexic" give the idea well.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 17, 10:16 AM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 17, 09:50 AM 2020
like i told you, i want to play as few numbers as possible
so i play  7-11-13-15

And what do you do when other repeats shows up and you are in minus?

Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 10:26 AM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 17, 10:16 AM 2020
And what do you do when other repeats shows up and you are in minus?
watch the games on "RS"
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: quos on Apr 17, 10:36 AM 2020
I attach the most complicated session I have had so far. Testing how Plolp is doing it.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 17, 10:57 AM 2020
Quote from: quos on Apr 17, 10:36 AM 2020
I attach the most complicated session I have had so far. Testing how Plolp is doing it.

Thanks
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 17, 01:04 PM 2020
Quote from: quos on Apr 17, 10:36 AM 2020
I attach the most complicated session I have had so far. Testing how Plolp is doing it.

Yeah, that was kind of tough!

But, can someone explain this? This is what I don't understand...

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 04:56 PM 2020if a number is is taken forward bet the one backwards...

if thats taken remove the bet off the table...if a forward number is bet on and the number in front hits a third repeat the add another unit on it...same backwards if the number in front is repeat and hits again..and its forward number is already a repeat...with a repeat in front of it...

IF a number repeats as your playing say 14 hits twice so there is no forward number..then look at the first number spun...if its not a repeat bet that...if it is then its no bet until the next unrepeated number is out...
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 01:24 PM 2020
Quote from: quos on Apr 17, 10:36 AM 2020
I attach the most complicated session I have had so far. Testing how Plolp is doing it.

line 52, you made a mistake, we play 20. The last doublet is 18. In the end I did not calculate but you have to earn a little more than 20 units
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: quos on Apr 17, 01:44 PM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 17, 01:24 PM 2020
line 52, you made a mistake, we play 20. The last doublet is 18. In the end I did not calculate but you have to earn a little more than 20 units

Hi Plolp, I see that the last one to repeat was number 24, that's why we would play number 6, is that so?

Could you explain why not, please?


Thanks!!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 02:01 PM 2020
@ quos
18
20
4
18
24
36  line 52  The last doublet is 18
everything beyond the 18 no longer interests me , I reset
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: quos on Apr 17, 02:13 PM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 17, 02:01 PM 2020
@ quos
18
20
4
18
24
36  line 52  The last doublet is 18
everything beyond the 18 no longer interests me , I reset

Plolp, please look at the image, number 24 is the last to repeat before resetting.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 02:47 PM 2020

Do you understand that when the 36 comes out, the game is lost?

If I went your way I would rather say that it is 36 which is the last doublet .... right?

So when the 36 goes out, I start a new game and the last span of number that interests me are: 18-20-4-18-24-36

because the 18 is the closest doublet

everything before the 18 no longer exists
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: quos on Apr 17, 03:39 PM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 17, 02:47 PM 2020
Do you understand that when the 36 comes out, the game is lost?

If I went your way I would rather say that it is 36 which is the last doublet .... right?

So when the 36 goes out, I start a new game and the last span of number that interests me are: 18-20-4-18-24-36

because the 18 is the closest doublet

everything before the 18 no longer exists

Now I have understood you.

when you have a hit before the 6th repetition appears, do you also do the same?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 18, 01:59 AM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 15, 02:57 PM 2020
Yes like Vaddi's style, looking only at the marquee range 12. But i don't know if can be a good thing or not

i didn,t say it was a range of 12....i said No12..just continious

Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 18, 02:22 AM 2020
Quote from: Sunburstsoon on Apr 17, 05:14 AM 2020
Can some explain this with numbers please.im having a hard time understanding it. When is extra chips placed? Because I thought if the forward number and backward never is taken them there is no bet?

..if a forward number is bet on and the number in front hits a third repeat the add another unit on it...same backwards if the number in front is repeat and hits again..and its forward number is already a repeat...with a repeat in front of it...

it,ll make sense when you don,t have a range of spins....the range is 37 max numbers out repeated...thats why it can take so many spins for that to happen...though you should not get that far..and don,t want to get that far..if you get that far and bankroll is depleted you,ve lost bankroll...i do like the range stuff dropping numbers especially plop idea...not tried that at all...
as i say it can be tweaked like plop does...

all in all its a shifting betting system to encapture repeats...some have different size units on them as dictated by other repeats..so its not progression its still flatbetting

The old saying by dyslexic comes to mind


17* A roulette table can contain any COMBINATION of Progressive / Flat / Held Bets.

18* A FLAT BET can be a HELD BET...
19* A HELD BET is NOT 'neccessarily' a FLAT BET !!!!!!!!
20* A HELD BET is NOT 'neccessarily' a PROGRESSIVE BET !!!!!!!!
21* FLAT BETS can ACCUMULATE without becoming PROGRESSIVE BETS !!!!!!!!
22* FLAT BETS added to HELD BETS dont 'neccessarily' become PROGRESSIVE BETS !!!!!!!!!!
23* A 'PROCESS' is NOT an 'EVENT', but CONTINUALLY happens.
24* All apparently UNCONNECTED continuum 'EVENTS' are CONNECTED both spatially and temporeally by space and by TIME
25* Out of DISORDER ('random' CHAOS) comes ORDER ('pattern')... "Ordo Ab Chao", RNG ---------------->CONTINUAL WINNING BETS




Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 18, 02:30 AM 2020
Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 18, 02:22 AM 2020
it,ll make sense when you don,t have a range of spins....the range is 37 max numbers out repeated...thats why it can take so many spins for that to happen...though you should not get that far..and don,t want to get that far..if you get that far and bankroll is depleted you,ve lost bankroll...i do like the range stuff dropping numbers especially plop idea...not tried that at all...
as i say it can be tweaked like plop does...

all in all its a shifting betting system to encapture repeats...some have different size units on them as dictated by other repeats..so its not progression its still flatbetting

The old saying by dyslexic comes to mind


17* A roulette table can contain any COMBINATION of Progressive / Flat / Held Bets.

18* A FLAT BET can be a HELD BET...
19* A HELD BET is NOT 'neccessarily' a FLAT BET !!!!!!!!
20* A HELD BET is NOT 'neccessarily' a PROGRESSIVE BET !!!!!!!!
21* FLAT BETS can ACCUMULATE without becoming PROGRESSIVE BETS !!!!!!!!
22* FLAT BETS added to HELD BETS dont 'neccessarily' become PROGRESSIVE BETS !!!!!!!!!!
23* A 'PROCESS' is NOT an 'EVENT', but CONTINUALLY happens.
24* All apparently UNCONNECTED continuum 'EVENTS' are CONNECTED both spatially and temporeally by space and by TIME
25* Out of DISORDER ('random' CHAOS) comes ORDER ('pattern')... "Ordo Ab Chao", RNG ---------------->CONTINUAL WINNING BETS

Thanks 6th for clarifying this with the range. I understood the entire process except the part when you bet an extra chip! Either you didn't explained it right, either I don't get it. Can you, please, try to clarify it with an example?

Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 18, 05:47 AM 2020

27 game on RS 26 won and one draw

+460
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 18, 05:53 AM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 18, 05:47 AM 2020
27 game on RS 26 won and one draw

+460

How long are your games? (average number of spins)
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 18, 06:01 AM 2020

A total of 749 spins were needed
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 18, 06:03 AM 2020
Just observing the 1-3-5-7 and seeing if this method does it; might not have forward and back options right; or bet that #32 as it repeated again?
But i've won watching the score.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 18, 06:15 AM 2020
Now I'm not doing the basic; just doing a Vaddi.
The part that should be of interest to you all; is the average at spin 60. The usual is 29.5, round up to 30; 30 of the starting 37 have hit by spin 60.
Here you have 31 of the starting 37. So,29 repeats.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 18, 06:53 AM 2020
Just watching the average of 16 repeats in 40 spins. Vaddi is your starting point
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Blood Angel on Apr 18, 10:15 AM 2020
Hi. I have done 9 sessions now. I have won all 9 sessions ( pretty sure I’m playing it right). I’m up 186 units.
Thanks for the thread 6th Sense.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: JahVinci on Apr 18, 10:27 AM 2020
Hi Everyone!

Any Idea how to bet in this cases?

18 repeated: I bet "1"

18 repeated: What numbers should I bet? Any insight on this part?

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 18, 10:36 AM 2020
Quote from: JahVinci on Apr 18, 10:27 AM 2020
Hi Everyone!

Any Idea how to bet in this cases?

18 repeated: I bet "1"

18 repeated: What numbers should I bet? Any insight on this part?

Thank you in advance

6
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: JahVinci on Apr 18, 11:33 AM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 18, 10:36 AM 2020
6

Thanks a lot.

Another moment I am confused about is when do we add extra unit. Hope someone can provide a clear example.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 18, 01:52 PM 2020
Quote from: JahVinci on Apr 18, 11:33 AM 2020
Thanks a lot.

Another moment I am confused about is when do we add extra unit. Hope someone can provide a clear example.

IMO it works w/o adding an extra unit! Just read the examples in this thread and you'll see that it works
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Astrid Cruz on Apr 18, 03:47 PM 2020
Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 04:56 PM 2020
with this corona virus i understand that a lot of people are out of work and income is vital...

i also understand not many people have a lot of money to spend on roulette...but also understand the need to earn something..

so i,ll put this forward with no clues and no hints with a bankroll of 350 units...and just explain outright how you may achieve money with the patience of a stone..playing roulette...

Hola, señor

a game can last 10 spins or 250 spins...each game is is reset on an even start balance or in plus..even if its only one unit.....there is no stop loss...either you win or you lose a bankroll....

you are in it to win it...he who dares wins...

a unit will be a unit..be it .10p or £100 there is no stoploss there is no win target..there is only the bankroll you are willing to risk....and the main thing is time invested...

this is only one method i use...

triple bankroll then double units..

or just go for it and compound winnings...

a safe player is not a gambler...this is not gambling..but letting the results tell you what to bet...this in this method is repeats telling you..its all flatbetting and although increases are made on certain bets its only what is being dictated by the flow of results...

there are more options believe me...roulette is all about unhits repeats..uniques ...but this will hopefully help a lot of of people beyond my thread 37 back to basics...

its a technique how to bet on numbers to repeat when first shown...sergio i know you are going to read this and this is to help you too..

this i repeat is one method i use....

its the simplest...

all stems from the things ive learnt from different ideas..from turbo ..vaddi...talos...dyslexic..and jake..former member jake cht aka luckyfella..and kimo li...thanks for the book

ok i,m waffling and probably talking nonsense....players always say every number will show in a certain amount of spins...not correct by the way...BUT the numbers that Have shown ..the majority will HAVE a repeat within a set amount of spins...not all but virtually most...

so how to capitalize on this...

how can you work this out...

i,ll explain this one aspect of the game...as i think this is all most people will need..

THIS is the combination of a few things put into perspective...and this is one side only..don,t get me started on pris funny sequences or cycles..

you can progress further if you want but YOU can do that yourself

this is all i,m willing to give

remember patience of a stone..

OK thats out of the way

NOW lets get started...even newbies can do this....

THIS IS A FLOW BET...

you cannot win on set parameters unless you can flow ..


you will write down the numbers as they come ...every two numbers is a pair.....

like vaddi...

numbers 25..2...35...22  36..26...1...12...18...29...11...28...
will be written as

25/2
35/22
36/26
1/12
18/29
11/28

thats it...

now...lets say we have a repeat..no 18...you now bet 29


keep that bet on every spin...


next repeat is 22

bet the forward number which is 36.....

keep constantly on these numbers and every number that is dictated...

if a number is is taken forward bet the one backwards...

if thats taken remove the bet off the table...if a forward number is bet on and the number in front hits a third repeat the add another unit on it...same backwards if the number in front is repeat and hits again..and its forward number is already a repeat...with a repeat in front of it...

IF a number repeats as your playing say 14 hits twice so there is no forward number..then look at the first number spun...if its not a repeat bet that...if it is then its no bet until the next unrepeated number is out...

this is a flow chart basically of vaddi not a set chart....which should in the main encompass islands but not in the usual way...

it uses turbos repeats as a base...

it uses the flow of the table for bets

it uses the main outcomes that most numbers will repeat once in 200 spins that have shown...

a number may repeat 4 or 5 times which means that if the forward or backward number hasn,t hit will have a large amount of units on it ...

other numbers may have one unit on it but overall it ticks along until in profit..

there is no progression...it takes advantage of what must happen..most games are under 37 spins...a few games are 200 spins or slightly above u can cut off at any time and start again....you do not need every number out..or repeated..to end the game...only profit...your enemy is boredom

always remember when a number is repeated take it off the betting and use the pairs that are flowing and use that repeated numbers forward or backward where applicable...if not applicable as both forward and backward have already repeated..then theres no bet from that hit number..

always remember you cannot win unless a number has shown

always reset when in profit..

Hello, sir 6sense.

I have understood everything he has said because Sergio already did this a while ago and he told me about it, like many other things.
But I have to tell you that that is nothing like Mr. David's.
I know that works quite well, but Sergio also confirmed that there comes a day that he ends up losing, verified by him and his team.
What he has done is very good, trying to help others is very nice.

Blessings
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Sunburstsoon on Apr 18, 06:18 PM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 18, 01:52 PM 2020
IMO it works w/o adding an extra unit! Just read the examples in this thread and you'll see that it works

Could you explain when it is appropiate to add an extra chip?

Because I gleaned that one is not to bet if forward and backward is taken. But I found that it works if one puts an extra chip on the forward or backward is taken. Kinda like solidifying the fact that number is more "due"
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 18, 06:27 PM 2020
Quote from: Sunburstsoon on Apr 18, 06:18 PM 2020
Could you explain when it is appropiate to add an extra chip?

Because I gleaned that one is not to bet if forward and backward is taken. But I found that it works if one puts an extra chip on the forward or backward is taken. Kinda like solidifying the fact that number is more "due"

I said several times already, right here on this thread that I have an issue with that because I didn't understood that part!

Guys, I'm really starting to understand everyone who are just giving clues regarding their systems/strategies/methods of play... call them whatever you want! Most of you people don't even bother to READ and pay a little attention to what is talking here. You just want it all on a silver plate for granted!

C'mon, really? What else do some of you need? For the ones who develop some strategies to play with their own money and to give you the winnings??? Really???? You can't even read a simple 4-5 pages thread to see what's in there??
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Sunburstsoon on Apr 18, 08:46 PM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 18, 06:27 PM 2020
I said several times already, right here on this thread that I have an issue with that because I didn't understood that part!

Guys, I'm really starting to understand everyone who are just giving clues regarding their systems/strategies/methods of play... call them whatever you want! Most of you people don't even bother to READ and pay a little attention to what is talking here. You just want it all on a silver plate for granted!

C'mon, really? What else do some of you need? For the ones who develop some strategies to play with their own money and to give you the winnings??? Really???? You can't even read a simple 4-5 pages thread to see what's in there??

Thank you for your time my friend.  And yes I understood that you did not see it necessary to add an extra chip and I can see how that works out perfectly. I simplly wanted to ask how the original explanation was stating where to put the extra chip.

And again thank you. I am sorry if it seemed like I was being lazy. I have read and the post several times to try and get an answer before even asking. i know there will be many ways of playing this systym. However I was just curious of how 6th-sense would have played the extra chip, if it would have been  when a forward or backward came up again or something else.

I honestly have been playing it where you put an extra chip when a double comes up again and the forward or backward is taken, then I put the extra chip on the forward first and then the backward, although I have never gotten to that point yet..before resetting before profit.

So, just to ask again, (politely of course) when would anyone put an extra chip on a number?

Thank you
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: cht on Apr 18, 10:43 PM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 18, 06:27 PM 2020
Guys, I'm really starting to understand everyone who are just giving clues regarding their systems/strategies/methods of play... call them whatever you want!
The reason for not providing full disclosure is the proprietary ideas that go beyond the game of roulette.

Good job Gordon. 👍
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 19, 02:39 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 18, 10:43 PM 2020
The reason for not providing full disclosure is the proprietary ideas that go beyond the game of roulette.

Good job Gordon. 👍

Thanks yoda jake ..so glad to see your ok .
Had no one at all to tax my brain since you..
Sabbatical did me good as you suggested 🙃
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 19, 03:03 AM 2020
1530 spins  +388

30 game 28 win one draw and one lost
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 19, 04:19 AM 2020

1691 spins +447
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 19, 11:31 AM 2020

1805 spins +508
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: quos on Apr 19, 01:54 PM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 19, 11:31 AM 2020
1805 spins +508

Thank you for continuing to share your games in roulette-simulator!!

Regards.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Mister Eko on Apr 19, 02:50 PM 2020
Here is 200 number spin sequence, can somebody do it and post the playing way with these numebrs?

Than maybe others can understand more clearly, and maybe can be coded.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 19, 03:14 PM 2020
Quote from: plolp on Apr 17, 09:50 AM 2020
like i told you, i want to play as few numbers as possible
so i play  7-11-13-15

plop...as you are playing as few numbers as possible i have this gift for you....

this maybe handy or maybe not...made by rfmax..

a constant calculator..the ferrari calculator...

just click the tab to the amount of numbers you are betting be it 1 to 30..it will not go beyond that..and click add...it,ll calculate the amount needed to bet and profit and loss..

you have to click add for every spin..you can decrease or increase any amount from 1 to 30 each spin...

just click add after each spin the amount of numbers you are betting and reset in profit...i like your perseverance and style

Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 20, 06:12 AM 2020
Thank you 6th "for the little toy.

Many people ask me how I play this method, just watch my games on "RS".
I always played the same way.

I only play 5 numbers maximum, when a 6th candidate arrives, I reset and only play one number.
This number is found thanks to the last nearest doublet.
And all the numbers beyond this doublet are forgotten.

Voila I think it's very clear.
Will this way of doing things win much longer? I do not know .
The last 36 games on "RS" are played the same way.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 20, 06:32 AM 2020

I also wanted to point out that from today, my games on "RS" will be different.

Always the same idea but completely different procedure.
I feel compelled to extrapolate this idea.

extraPLOLPlate......
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Normy2000 on Apr 20, 09:25 AM 2020
Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 19, 03:14 PM 2020made by rfmax..

a constant calculator..the ferrari calculator...

Good one  :xd:, i made it in 2012: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10510.msg95655#msg95655
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 20, 10:19 AM 2020
Quote from: Normy2000 on Apr 20, 09:25 AM 2020
Good one  :xd:, i made it in 2012: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10510.msg95655#msg95655

Lol normy it’s the same
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Normy2000 on Apr 20, 10:27 AM 2020
That is why i say "good one", i made it for all members in 2012,
rfmax just changed the cells color and add a ferrari picture.  :twisted:
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 10:36 AM 2020
Tried it doesn’t work, no reasoning behind bet , singles to turn into doubles? Luck system, no guarantee.
Don’t trust RS , you can win many times before losing big or your system wins on RS but loses when playing on real wheels.
Nice try though
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Azim on Apr 20, 10:53 AM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 10:36 AM 2020
Tried it doesn’t work, no reasoning behind bet , singles to turn into doubles? Luck system, no guarantee.
Don’t trust RS , you can win many times before losing big or your system wins on RS but loses when playing on real wheels.
Nice try though

Can you provide your session and how you played it?  If you can't bet you just trying to put this down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 10:57 AM 2020
Didn’t save sessions, I m not stopping anyone, just saying didn’t work for me.
The instructions on page 1,
Watched plolp video on RS
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Azim on Apr 20, 11:00 AM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 10:57 AM 2020
Didn’t save sessions, I m not stopping anyone, just saying didn’t work for me.
The instructions on page 1,
Watched plolp video on RS

I figured that would be your answer...    So why post negativity?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 11:19 AM 2020
Ok bak the fak off
Don’t care
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Azim on Apr 20, 11:21 AM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 11:19 AM 2020
Ok bak the fak off
Don’t care

Why did the truth hurt?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 11:25 AM 2020
U prove it works
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Azim on Apr 20, 11:28 AM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 11:25 AM 2020
U prove it works
I don't have to prove it works...

I have just proved you a lier or played it wrong and cant prove your words...
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 11:31 AM 2020
Yes u do, my claim says doesn’t work

You says it works

Prove me wrong?
You looking like a dyack at the mo
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Azim on Apr 20, 11:35 AM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 11:31 AM 2020
Yes u do, my claim says doesn’t work

You says it works

Prove me wrong?
You looking like a dyack at the mo

You are the dyack at the mo.

Go and read where did I say it works?  See you cant read and expect me to believe you played it right?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 20, 11:37 AM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 10:57 AM 2020
Didn’t save sessions, I m not stopping anyone, just saying didn’t work for me.
The instructions on page 1,
Watched plolp video on RS

Jay you played Plolp way or 6TH ? Because are different
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Azim on Apr 20, 11:39 AM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 20, 11:37 AM 2020
Jay you played Plolp way or 6TH ? Because are different


quote
Didn’t save sessions, I m not stopping anyone, just saying didn’t work for me.
The instructions on page 1,
Watched plolp video on RS
unquote
He read the instructions from page 1 he says...
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 01:22 PM 2020
Why would you play this system when you have access to Vaddis?
Even the author referenced Vaddi when he was posting it.
What this system lacks is balance, it relies on singles to repeat only. Just a friendly warning, this system is destined to failure.


Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Elite on Apr 20, 01:36 PM 2020
Vaadi System, No one have proof it works .
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: maestro on Apr 20, 01:47 PM 2020
QuoteGood one  :xd:, i made it in 2012


ha Norm is funny how some people hijack work from others...
i remember your tracker..good tool :thumbsup:
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: drannh on Apr 20, 02:06 PM 2020
Hey guys,
It usually works, but I can't make it with this part (attached), could anyone try ? Maybe I do it wrong, not sure.

Thanks a lot !
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Azim on Apr 20, 02:09 PM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 01:22 PM 2020
Why would you play this system when you have access to Vaddis?
Even the author referenced Vaddi when he was posting it.
What this system lacks is balance, it relies on singles to repeat only. Just a friendly warning, this system is destined to failure.

Quote from author page 1.

with this corona virus i understand that a lot of people are out of work and income is vital...

i also understand not many people have a lot of money to spend on roulette...but also understand the need to earn something..

so i,ll put this forward with no clues and no hints with a bankroll of 350 units...and just explain outright how you may achieve money with the patience of a stone..playing roulette...

a game can last 10 spins or 250 spins...each game is is reset on an even start balance or in plus..even if its only one unit.....there is no stop loss...either you win or you lose a bankroll....

Unquote

Even the author is not saying it will always win.

Jay,
Again go and learn to understand what people are saying.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: drannh on Apr 20, 02:13 PM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 01:22 PM 2020
Why would you play this system when you have access to Vaddis?
If you have access to Vaddi's, glad for you... but then why such comment here.
I don't have access to Vaddi's, despites a lot of efforts.. I just can't have something that works as he mentionned.
So I take what I can from the generosity of 6th.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 03:11 PM 2020
Ok lost my bankroll
Doesn’t work
So I was right
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 20, 03:40 PM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 03:11 PM 2020
Ok lost my bankroll
Doesn’t work
So I was right

Right about what???

It's easy to throw stones. Why don't you come up with something better? There are a few strategies posted during these last days... it's up to you to play them or not! But... until you come up with some better one, don't act like a jerk! At least someone put some effort into it...
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 03:53 PM 2020
Ok, here it is
Play all the doubles in the last 12 spins
When a double is no longer in the last 12 spins drop it. Both occurrences of the same number must clear the last 12 spins.
If you are not hitting increase the spin limit to 15 for a while.
Let me know how it goes
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 04:01 PM 2020
Flat betting mostly
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 20, 04:35 PM 2020
Quote from: jay on Apr 20, 03:53 PM 2020
Ok, here it is
Play all the doubles in the last 12 spins
When a double is no longer in the last 12 spins drop it. Both occurrences of the same number must clear the last 12 spins.
If you are not hitting increase the spin limit to 15 for a while.
Let me know how it goes

Example: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 5 8 9 11 12 13 14 15

Bets: no 5 - starting with spin 10, then at spin 12 we add no 9 and at spin 13 we add no 9. At spin 17, we take out 5 because in between spin 6 and spin 15, the number 5 is a single, not a double... am I right?

Basically, we bet thst in a range of 12 spins we will have at least one number showing up 3 times!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 20, 05:17 PM 2020
No, imagine you can only see last 12 numbers and there is a double in those 12 numbers, you have to play that number until both instances of that number clear the 12 number window.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: 2BobBet on Apr 21, 04:33 AM 2020
Basically you are looking to hit a quick repeat number ?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: jay on Apr 21, 05:41 AM 2020
It’s not quick at times and you might end up playing up 4-5 doubles within the spin limit
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steve on Apr 21, 10:07 PM 2020
Quote from: Astrid Cruz on Apr 18, 03:47 PM 2020I know that works quite well, but Sergio also confirmed that there comes a day that he ends up losing, verified by him and his team.
What he has done is very good, trying to help others is very nice.

You (astrid), Sergio, and Passion Ruleta are all the same guy, deceptively trying to scam people. You already took one guy's $2k who died of cancer. Have the decency to give it back to his family.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 21, 10:20 PM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 21, 10:07 PM 2020
You (astrid), Sergio, and Passion Ruleta are all the same guy, deceptively trying to scam people. You already took one guy's $2k who died of cancer. Have the decency to give it back to his family.

So...  What am I to you Steve? 
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steve on Apr 21, 10:25 PM 2020
Some guy on my forum named MOXY, who recently cracked the shits for some reason over stuff that has nothing to do with him, and shouldn't concern him.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 21, 11:44 PM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 21, 10:25 PM 2020
Some guy on my forum named MOXY, who recently cracked the shits for some reason over stuff that has nothing to do with him, and shouldn't concern him.

We'll talk later.  I have abilities that no known person has yet to grasp as concrete.  All practical physics.  No ESP.  No computers.  Just your thinking cap and a memorized template. Applicable on RNG, live, trading software, whatever. 

I am currently at near 70% (7/10) hit rate EC.  Every.  Single.  Hand.  Any speculative game/platform.
(It can be programmed for future reference).  And I still have higher aspirations then 70%.

This is a minute fraction of my capabilities.   I don't like giving out details as you know by now.  This is just a sample.














Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steve on Apr 22, 01:49 AM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on Apr 21, 11:44 PM 2020I don't like giving out details as you know by now.  This is just a sample.

At the moment its just talk. We get lots of it around forums.

I suspect you're just mistaken and need to test more.

But hey if you genuinely had the HG, and make a fortune, I would congratulate you.

I'm just about done on all business, for my lifetime. I think maybe a few more years. Roulette will still always be a personal interest.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Elite on Apr 22, 11:29 AM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on Apr 21, 11:44 PM 2020
We'll talk later.  I have abilities that no known person has yet to grasp as concrete.  All practical physics.  No ESP.  No computers.  Just your thinking cap and a memorized template. Applicable on RNG, live, trading software, whatever. 

I am currently at near 70% (7/10) hit rate EC.  Every.  Single.  Hand.  Any speculative game/platform.
(It can be programmed for future reference).  And I still have higher aspirations then 70%.

This is a minute fraction of my capabilities.   I don't like giving out details as you know by now.  This is just a sample.
7/10  hits,,,  using which method,,,  no mathematician claim to beat game  odds
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 22, 03:52 PM 2020
Quote from: Elite on Apr 22, 11:29 AM 2020
7/10  hits,,,  using which method,,,  no mathematician claim to beat game  odds

I've trademarked it:  Practical Physics
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 22, 03:54 PM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 22, 01:49 AM 2020
At the moment its just talk. We get lots of it around forums.

I suspect you're just mistaken and need to test more.

But hey if you genuinely had the HG, and make a fortune, I would congratulate you.

I'm just about done on all business, for my lifetime. I think maybe a few more years. Roulette will still always be a personal interest.

We shall see in due time.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 22, 06:11 PM 2020
That is great!  Our last mystic guru just left us 2 weeks ago, losing all our beliefs.  Thanx Moxy for filling the void
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 22, 06:48 PM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 22, 06:11 PM 2020
That is great!  Our last mystic guru just left us 2 weeks ago, losing all our beliefs.  Thanx Moxy for filling the void

Sure.  Whatever you say.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Elite on Apr 22, 11:01 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on Apr 22, 03:52 PM 2020
I've trademarked it:  Practical Physics
So 7/10  after Ball release,,,  means not applicable online games,,, 
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steve on Apr 22, 11:13 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on Apr 22, 03:52 PM 2020
I've trademarked it:  Practical Physics

Did you trademark "common sense" too?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 22, 11:57 PM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 22, 11:13 PM 2020
Did you trademark "comvmon sense" too?

It'd be my pleasure to demonstrate (for the right offer).
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steve on Apr 23, 12:25 AM 2020
Do you know how many people have made much the same claims as you? Yes, yes, they all say they're different. It's nothing I haven't heard before. It just sounds like you're still in the "it looks good, and I'm doing more testing" phase.

If you have a way of proving it without any risk to me, including risk of wasting time, I'd be more interested. Otherwise no, just go make billions.

Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 23, 12:54 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 23, 12:25 AM 2020
Do you know how many people have made much the same claims as you? Yes, yes, they all say they're different. It's nothing I haven't heard before. It just sounds like you're still in the "it looks good, and I'm doing more testing" phase.

If you have a way of proving it without any risk to me, including risk of wasting time, I'd be more interested. Otherwise no, just go make billions.

Its all in my head.  Every single hand played with my crazy high hit rate I gather I would exceed normal variance in quick, short order.

Keeping my options open is all.  Stay safe in this pandemic, it goes for everyone on here, and we may meet in the future.

Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: plolp on Apr 23, 01:46 AM 2020

all that has nothing to do with what "6th sense" posted
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steve on Apr 23, 05:06 AM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on Apr 23, 12:54 AM 2020Stay safe in this pandemic, it goes for everyone on here, and we may meet in the future.

The pandemic is a crock of shit. I'm not buying it. Too many holes.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 23, 12:53 PM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 23, 05:06 AM 2020
The pandemic is a crock of shit. I'm not buying it. Too many holes.

Yikes. 

Anyways, you really should allow your modify option to be open indefinitely.  I read your wording wrong.

I forgot about that issue of wasting your time.  I would treat it as if it was a contractual meeting or public appearance or whatever like any esteemed person of interest and handle all expenses e.g. ample compensation for your time, travel, booking.   Forget about escrow.  You keep the payment regardless.  I totally get it.

The wheel is beautiful if you catch her at the right "angle".

So...  I'm all ears with your offer, here, pm, wherever.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 23, 01:07 PM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 22, 06:11 PM 2020
That is great!  Our last mystic guru just left us 2 weeks ago, losing all our beliefs.  Thanx Moxy for filling the void

Every wheel is beautiful if you catch it at the right "angle".

How's that?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 23, 03:37 PM 2020
Elaborate.
Demonstrate.
And do it in a new relevant topic.

Thanks!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steve on Apr 23, 09:05 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on Apr 23, 12:53 PM 2020Anyways, you really should allow your modify option to be open indefinitely.  I read your wording wrong.

That would leave the forum wide open to spammers and scammers. There's about a 10 minute time limit to edit your post.

Quote from: Moxy on Apr 23, 12:53 PM 2020The wheel is beautiful if you catch her at the right "angle".

Yes, she is.

But she's also a dirty slut who needs to be slapped.

Quote from: Moxy on Apr 23, 12:53 PM 2020So...  I'm all ears with your offer, here, pm, wherever.

I already slap her around a bit. But if you have something better than 20-50% edge on around 90% of wheels, and can prove it irrefutably before I spend time listening to what you say, let me know. I'm not interested in mere talk.


Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Moxy on Apr 23, 09:50 PM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 23, 09:05 PM 2020
But if you have something better than 20-50% edge on around 90% of wheels, and can prove it irrefutably before I spend time listening to what you say, let me know. I'm not interested in mere talk.

Of course.  Hence my price tag of millions at least.  Literally undetectable and uncharted territory since your thinking cap is the only resource required.   Most importantly, no wheel data collecting, no waiting for "triggers" like a system player would; every spin wagered right off the bat.  Just like any regular Joe would.


I have other practical capabilities - to put it mildly - as well. I will keep shut for now as per your request.  More testing in store. 



Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 26, 01:48 PM 2020
I thought a lot about this post. I worked on that and i've tested a way that give me until now 39/39 win sessions. Only 3 sessions over 37 spins, my spins limit are 185.  So i played like this:
1. track 8 numbers without repeaters and write them down, these are numbers for starting the tracking.
2. Add every number out on you list, when a repeater shown, bet like 1st page in the post so the number in front, but also with the repeater.
    for example: 34 12 10 5 34 ---- bet 34 and 12  and backward if is already taken.
3. Put on the table a max of 8 repeaters numbers, so when you reach the max you delete the old one and add the new one.
    Example of tracking allegated.
Just sharing ideas and test. Thanks.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 26, 04:27 PM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 26, 01:48 PM 2020
I thought a lot about this post. I worked on that and i've tested a way that give me until now 39/39 win sessions. Only 3 sessions over 37 spins, my spins limit are 185.  So i played like this:
1. track 8 numbers without repeaters and write them down, these are numbers for starting the tracking.
2. Add every number out on you list, when a repeater shown, bet like 1st page in the post so the number in front, but also with the repeater.
    for example: 34 12 10 5 34 ---- bet 34 and 12  and backward if is already taken.
3. Put on the table a max of 8 repeaters numbers, so when you reach the max you delete the old one and add the new one.
    Example of tracking allegated.
Just sharing ideas and test. Thanks.

Besides the thing with track the first 8 unique number, I understood completely nothing!
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 26, 04:39 PM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 26, 04:27 PM 2020
Besides the thing with track the first 8 unique number, I understood completely nothing!

Start with 8: 
32   
0   
2   
22   
21   
13   
25   
34   our eight without rep now begin
32   bet 32-0    1rep
30   
4   
26   
22   bet 22-21   2rep
28   
36   
9   
26   bet 26-4     3rep
35   
36   bet 36-9     4rep
35   bet 35        5rep    (36 and 26 already betted)
16   
15   
12   
25   bet 25-34   6rep
7   
31   
18   
17   
36      7 rep no numbers to bet because already taken
33   
20   
7   bet 7-31    8rep


When a new repeater compare delete the #1 repeater and add new one



Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 26, 07:13 PM 2020
A repeater since the start or a repeater in the last x spins?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 26, 07:24 PM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 26, 07:13 PM 2020
A repeater since the start or a repeater in the last x spins?

Right forgot to specify . Since the start
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 26, 07:27 PM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 26, 04:39 PM 2020
Start with 8: 
32   
0   
2   
22   
21   
13   
25   
34   our eight without rep now begin
32   bet 32-0    1rep
30   
4   
26   
22   bet 22-21   2rep
28   
36   
9   
26   bet 26-4     3rep
35   
36   bet 36-9     4rep
35   bet 35        5rep    (36 and 26 already betted)
16   
15   
12   
25   bet 25-34   6rep
7   
31   
18   
17   
36      7 rep no numbers to bet because already taken
33   
20   
7   bet 7-31    8rep


When a new repeater compare delete the #1 repeater and add new one

Sorry here the word "compare" is wrong (i'm italian,a  mistake with my language) "shows" is ok
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 26, 08:19 PM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 26, 07:24 PM 2020
Right forgot to specify . Since the start

So one games going past 37 spins you really are adding the new and removing the old almost every spin, right?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 26, 09:13 PM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 26, 08:19 PM 2020
So one games going past 37 spins you really are adding the new and removing the old almost every spin, right?

If we have 8 rep in game before 37 spins also we start to delete and add, and the bet change when a "new" (coul be any number from the start , repeated 2-3-4-5 ecc.....times) repeater comes
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 02:37 AM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 26, 04:39 PM 2020
Start with 8: 
32   
0   
2   
22   
21   
13   
25   
34   our eight without rep now begin
32   bet 32-0    1rep
30   
4   
26   
22   bet 22-21   2rep
28   
36   
9   
26   bet 26-4     3rep
35   
36   bet 36-9     4rep
35   bet 35        5rep    (36 and 26 already betted)
16   
15   
12   
25   bet 25-34   6rep
7   
31   
18   
17   
36      7 rep no numbers to bet because already taken
33   
20   
7   bet 7-31    8rep


When a new repeater compare delete the #1 repeater and add new one

Delete only the repeater or you delete the repeater and the pair? For ex... you delete only 32 or you delete 32 and 0?

Flat bet only?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 27, 04:33 AM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 02:37 AM 2020
Delete only the repeater or you delete the repeater and the pair? For ex... you delete only 32 or you delete 32 and 0?

Flat bet only?

The repeater and the pair. Only flat bet
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 27, 12:25 PM 2020
Update now 48/48 winning sessions. Max drawdown 160 units until now. Bankroll from 300 units to 1060. I'll continue.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Clf7 on Apr 27, 12:47 PM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 27, 12:25 PM 2020
Update now 48/48 winning sessions. Max drawdown 160 units until now. Bankroll from 300 units to 1060. I'll continue.

Rng or normal wheel?
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 27, 01:22 PM 2020
Quote from: Clf7 on Apr 27, 12:47 PM 2020
Rng or normal wheel?

Rng fun mode
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: Clf7 on Apr 27, 01:47 PM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 27, 01:22 PM 2020
Rng fun mode

Crazy results for RNG especially
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 27, 02:23 PM 2020
Things i forgot (but same as the first page of the post from 6TH) if someone want to test, if one pair is taken bet backward, if forward and backward is taken nothing (nobet). If you have for example 1-1 come out consecutive, first number of the list will be betted, if is already taken bet the number before the first #1 repated. For example. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-1, you'll bet 1-2-7 (because #1 it's a repeater itself and #2 is a normal bet for the first time #1 is repeated) . In this other case 9-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-1 you'll bet 1-9
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: meow on Apr 28, 05:58 AM 2020
You are using flat betting right? Like 1 usd on each number? So every spin you betting on 2 or 1 numbers only?
What is the average number of spins per game? And what is the result in every game that you stop after?

Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 27, 12:25 PM 2020
Update now 48/48 winning sessions. Max drawdown 160 units until now. Bankroll from 300 units to 1060. I'll continue.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: drannh on Apr 29, 11:31 AM 2020
Hi nichedelico,
Why are you waiting for 8 spins without doubles, when actually.. wait for doubles.. I don't get it.. ?

When your system is 48/48 on "RNG", well, such way, I don't need to test to know it won't work on real random nor on real casino.
Those 3 random methods are just not the same, and a system working on one of them, will most of the time miserably fail on the other ones
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: loukoumas on May 06, 05:33 AM 2020
6th
please try  to make a video with a screen recorder. I think a few if any have fully understood the original instructions.
Title: Re: beyond 37 back to basics
Post by: CarpeDiem on Jan 16, 05:22 PM 2021
Another overlooked thread.
Give credit to people who deserve it. If more people would be like Gordon, this world would be a better place.