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Title: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 05:23 AM 2020
i am willing to sell this now, it´s not a "Grail" but very close, so im thinking now perhaps a price between 200-300$ IF anyone interested.

you can also contact me by mail ignatus@hotmail.se

cheers
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 27, 05:52 AM 2020
trade it for $100k.
steve's offer is still available.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 06:03 AM 2020
Ignatus, what are the minimum and maximum bets? With zero or no zero?
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 06:22 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 27, 06:03 AM 2020
Ignatus, what are the minimum and maximum bets? With zero or no zero?

it´s with zero. Also the progression i used (in this example, is 14 steps) I can´t tell much more about the prog?

What i can tell more. it´s a system based on "repeaters".

More than this i cannot tell?
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Taotie on Apr 27, 06:27 AM 2020
I'm loving the 37000 unit draw down right at the end of your graph.

Sure, I'll give you $200 for it. That way it will only cost me $37200 down the track....
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: charly on Apr 27, 06:32 AM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 27, 06:22 AM 2020
it´s with zero. Also the progression i used (in this example, is 14 steps) I can´t tell much more about the prog?

What i can tell more. it´s a system based on "repeaters".

More than this i cannot tell?

What is your biggest bet size in this test??? If this bet is above table limits, your test is useless
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 06:35 AM 2020
Ignatus, the main thing i want to know is minimum and maximum bets. Can you reveal this?
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 06:36 AM 2020
Quote from: charly on Apr 27, 06:32 AM 2020
What is your biggest bet size in this test??? If this bet is above table limits, your test is useless

Well? That can be modifed/fixed. What is the normal "tablelimit" for straightups....
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 06:37 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 27, 06:35 AM 2020
Ignatus, the main thing i want to know is minimum and maximum bets. Can you reveal this?

not yet. obviously i have to play within "tablelimits" and i need to modify the progression (as it looks like now?)
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 06:40 AM 2020
Ok im thinking you just have broad betting limits. If you correct this, you'll probably find results are the same as random bets with progression.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 06:57 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 27, 06:40 AM 2020
Ok im thinking you just have broad betting limits. If you correct this, you'll probably find results are the same as random bets with progression.

Well? i modifed the progression now (MAX 100u Tablelimit bet). The chart still looks good imo. perhaps there are more tweaks to be done with the progression, its not "finished yet" so? Still interested go ahead, if not, never mind then? I said "its not a grail"?
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 07:00 AM 2020
Try with typical table limits. For example:

Outside: 10-1000
Inside: 5-500

It varies between casinos. But this is about normal.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 07:06 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 27, 07:00 AM 2020
Try with typical table limits. For example:

Outside: 10-1000
Inside: 5-500

It varies between casinos. But this is about normal.

Alright thx
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 07:54 AM 2020
Now, played with a POSITIVE PROGRESSION. (Bet 5-500u).

Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 08:08 AM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 27, 06:22 AM 2020
it´s with zero. Also the progression i used (in this example, is 14 steps) I can´t tell much more about the prog?

What i can tell more. it´s a system based on "repeaters".

More than this i cannot tell?
Negative progression is a no no.
Flatbet, then some people might be interested.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 08:15 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 08:08 AM 2020
Negative progression is a no no.
Flatbet, then some people might be interested.

You know Flatbet for 400000 spins is impossible.

Why ask him for the impossible.

Progression only makes sense when you know you have an edge.

If his repeater system does have a genuine edge then he needs to demonstrate that.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 08:24 AM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 08:15 AM 2020
You know Flatbet for 400000 spins is impossible.

Why ask him for the impossible.

Progression only makes sense when you know you have an edge.

If his repeater system does have a genuine edge then he needs to demonstrate that.
You showed your ignorance with your post.
Impossible and edge in the same post.

If the bet has no edge flatbetted in your words impossible, can you explain how to derive edge played with a negative progression ?
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 08:29 AM 2020
Well? I BE DAMNED! haha This is first test FLATBET. (Although the betselection little changed, in the code, still same system/principle)... (played with 5u bets) O0
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: nichedelico on Apr 27, 08:31 AM 2020
Ok flatbet is impressive. You took ideas from last posts on repeaters or totally different way?
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 08:33 AM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Apr 27, 08:31 AM 2020
Ok flatbet is impressive. You took ideas from last posts on repeaters or totally different way?

it´s not much modified, (same system) as i said, i cannot tell much more:S
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 08:36 AM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 27, 08:29 AM 2020
Well? I BE DAMNED! haha This is first test FLATBET. (Although the betselection little changed, in the code, still same system/principle)... (played with 5u bets) O0
Well done Ignatius. 👍

You hv proven that your Flatbet strategy "might" return an edge for these 10000 spins.

It's definitely not the same as random bets.
It's definitely not impossible.
It can't be brushed off as due to LUCK.
It's not due to programming mistake.

These are bullshit rubbish spewed on forum by u know who.

Chew your heart out it can be done.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 08:40 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 08:36 AM 2020your Flatbet strategy "might" return an edge

we´ll see, yes i do more testings and post results...
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 08:46 AM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 27, 08:33 AM 2020
it´s not much modified, (same system) as i said, i cannot tell much more:S

Hmmm, might be my post?  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 09:11 AM 2020
I think i got close to the "Final Version" Here (FLATBET).... About the sellingprice, now, (not sure) but i´d say a minimum of 300-500$..now. hm

Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Mister Eko on Apr 27, 09:21 AM 2020
You ended break even after 75 000 spins, and you wanna sell it for 500?? Rather share the idea, then maybe we can imorove it to make it ultimate hg. Then maybe you will get some donations.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 09:28 AM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 27, 09:21 AM 2020
You ended break even after 75 000 spins, and you wanna sell it for 500?? Rather share the idea, then maybe we can imorove it to make it ultimate hg. Then maybe you will get some donations.
This proposal makes sense.

It's very difficult to devise a systems betting strategy that has a positive edge.
We all hv tried and failed.
Based on the content on forum there's nothing here that grants a positive edge. Nothing.
So, good proposal to pool your brains as one work together.
As a group you might get lucky.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 09:29 AM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 27, 09:21 AM 2020
You ended break even after 75 000 spins, and you wanna sell it for 500?? Rather share the idea, then maybe we can imorove it to make it ultimate hg. Then maybe you will get some donations.

Nobody is forcing you to play 75k spins. Not even 30k spins. You can stop whenever you want. It's his product, it's his effort, he sells it with whatever he wants.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 09:30 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 09:28 AM 2020
This proposal makes sense.

It's very difficult to devise a systems betting strategy that has a positive edge.
We all hv tried and failed.
Based on the content on forum there's nothing there that grants a positive edge. Nothing.
So, good proposal to pool your brains as one work together.

In a perfect world, it would be a great idea. But tell that to the ones that say that they have the perfect betting method and progression but they will not share it. Just... because...
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 09:50 AM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 09:30 AM 2020
In a perfect world, it would be a great idea. But tell that to the ones that say that they have the perfect betting method and progression but they will not share it. Just... because...
This negative progression thing, get rid of it.
It's an addiction to gambling.

For negative progression to return positive edge it requires a pre-known fixed max variance. There's no such thing with roulette spins. Reality check.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 09:52 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 09:50 AM 2020
This negative progression thing, get rid of it.
It's an addiction to gambling.

For negative progression to return positive edge it requires a pre-known fixed max variance. There's no such thing with roulette spins. Reality check.

Where did I say something about negative progression???
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 09:55 AM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 09:52 AM 2020
Where did I say something about negative progression???
I assumed progression commonly refers to negative progression.
My apologies if you didn't mean that.

My post clearly refers to toxic negative progression.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 09:58 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 09:55 AM 2020
I assumed progression commonly refers to negative progression.
My apologies if you didn't mean that.

Not at all! No worries, chill.

I was just talking about the people that found out that they have a "so called" HG, but they only leave clues (regarding bet selection or any applied progression) or brag about it and in the end they just keep losing...


What's the point in doing that? Let's all get together and improve a good system/strategy
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 10:07 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 08:24 AM 2020
You showed your ignorance with your post.
Impossible and edge in the same post.

If the bet has no edge flatbetted in your words impossible, can you explain how to derive edge played with a negative progression ?

Flatbet with a system gives no edge.
AP gives you an edge.
AP with a progression makes sense.

Hopefully your little brain can understand that much.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 10:08 AM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 09:58 AM 2020
Not at all! No worries, chill.

I was just talking about the people that found out that they have a "so called" HG, but they only leave clues (regarding bet selection or any applied progression) or brag about it and in the end they just keep losing...


What's the point in doing that? Let's all get together and improve a good system/strategy
This is a good system with potential.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27027.0
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 10:09 AM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 10:07 AM 2020
Flatbet with a system gives no edge.
AP gives you an edge.
AP with a progression makes sense.

Hopefully your little brain can understand that much.
Your original post contains contradiction, stupid.

Enough of forum pigs.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 10:11 AM 2020
Major Tweak done now. (i tested same spins with different settings and This one, best so far). Roulette is Trial and Error, there is no other way to learn.

Again, why would i sell something that didn´t work? I couldn´t live with a bad conscience knowing selling a system "that didn´t work". So, now my coinscience is clean, and? as you can see in this chart (much better!). FLATBET (5u bets)

Price. now 500$.
or else 300$ (and test it, then pay the rest of 200$).

ok sound good to me. Cheers.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 10:13 AM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 27, 10:11 AM 2020
Major Tweak done now. (i tested same spins with different settings and This one, best so far). Roulette is Trial and Error, there is no other way to learn.

Again, why would i sell something that didn´t work? I couldn´t live with a bad conscience knowing selling a system "that didn´t work". So, now my coinscience is clean, and? as you can see in this chart (much better!).

Price. now 500$.
or else 300$ (and test it, then pay the rest of 200$).

ok sound good to me. Cheers.
All I can say, WELL DONE IGNATIUS!  :thumbsup:

Beware of curvefitting though.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 10:15 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 10:09 AM 2020
Your original post contains contradiction, stupid.

Enough of forum pigs.

You are a system junkie. Desperate for a get rich quick system.

Well it does not exist. No wonder you are so angry little man.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 10:22 AM 2020
Test 2. FLATBET (5u bets)
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 10:48 AM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 10:15 AM 2020
You are a system junkie. Desperate for a get rich quick system.

Well it does not exist. No wonder you are so angry little man.

IMO, just proved that it exists. Well... at least for aprox 50k spins!
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Mister Eko on Apr 27, 10:51 AM 2020
Go and play immediately when casino opens.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 10:53 AM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 27, 10:51 AM 2020
Go and play immediately when casino opens.

No need for sarcasm...
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 10:55 AM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 10:48 AM 2020
IMO, just proved that it exists. Well... at least for aprox 50k spins!

If you think that is the holy grail. Good luck.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 11:03 AM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 10:55 AM 2020
If you think that is the holy grail. Good luck.
Hey dum fuc, nobody mentioned hg.

Your precog hg ?
AP is hg?
RC is hg?

That's dum fuc talk that pigs post on forum.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 11:15 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 11:03 AM 2020
Hey dum fuc, nobody mentioned hg.

Your precog hg ?
AP is hg?
RC is hg?

That's dum fuc talk that pigs post on forum.

Angry little man, it's not my fault losing with systems has made you this angry at life.

Yes precog is an AP.

If it is not the holy grail then it's another system that fails.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 11:27 AM 2020
My question
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 11:03 AM 2020
Your precog hg ?

Dum fuc answer *facepalm*
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 11:15 AM 2020
Yes precog is an AP.

This is the problem with this forum.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ati on Apr 27, 11:28 AM 2020
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Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 11:33 AM 2020
Quote from: ati on Apr 27, 11:28 AM 2020
(link:s://i.postimg.cc/4ySHnZKj/image.png)

Good one!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 11:35 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 11:27 AM 2020
My question
Dum fuc answer *facepalm*
This is the problem with this forum.

Pathetic clown, if you are tired of losing your money playing systems then learn VB or precog.

Stop crying like a little b****.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 27, 12:20 PM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 27, 10:51 AM 2020
Go and play immediately when casino opens.

Casino in Sweden (where he lives) are already open
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: cht on Apr 27, 12:22 PM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 11:35 AM 2020
Pathetic clown, if you are tired of losing your money playing systems then learn VB or precog.

Stop crying like a little b****.
Yo dum fuc, stick to your VB and Precog threads. Post there.

Don't post on systems thread with your rude posts.
Get the message, thick
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 12:41 PM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 12:22 PM 2020
Yo dum fuc, stick to your VB and Precog threads. Post there.

Don't post on systems thread with your rude posts.
Get the message, thick

Systems don't work. I will keep posting that until you system junkies get some rehabilitation.

Take your anger out at the casino, not me you imbecile.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: charly on Apr 27, 12:50 PM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 12:41 PM 2020
Systems don't work. I will keep posting that until you system junkies get some rehabilitation.

Take your anger out at the casino, not me you imbecile.

Prove that precognition is working. You will play on youtube live stream on some online casino for a 4 hours or at least 400 stakes. Bet only on RED or BLACK. Only flat bet. If your winrate will be bigger than 65 percents i will believe that precognition works and will give you 1000 dollars. Are you ready or afraid? Otherwise, if your winrate will be less than 65 percents, Steve will delete your forever from here, to not to fool anybody with your precognition bullshit anymore.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: charly on Apr 27, 12:52 PM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 12:41 PM 2020
Systems don't work.
System dont work for you because you are too stupid to create a such a system.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Mister Eko on Apr 27, 12:56 PM 2020
Quote from: charly on Apr 27, 12:50 PM 2020
Prove that precognition is working. You will play on youtube live stream on some online casino for a 4 hours or at least 400 stakes. Bet only on RED or BLACK. Only flat bet. If your winrate will be bigger than 65 percents i will believe that precognition works and will give you 1000 dollars. Are you ready or afraid? Otherwise, if your winrate will be less than 65 percents, Steve will delete your forever from here, to not to fool anybody with your precognition bullshit anymore.

😂😂😂😂 this guy is incredible

Precog, accept the offer, if you are viking   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 01:03 PM 2020
Quote from: charly on Apr 27, 12:50 PM 2020
Prove that precognition is working. You will play on youtube live stream on some online casino for a 4 hours or at least 400 stakes. Bet only on RED or BLACK. Only flat bet. If your winrate will be bigger than 65 percents i will believe that precognition works and will give you 1000 dollars. Are you ready or afraid? Otherwise, if your winrate will be less than 65 percents, Steve will delete your forever from here, to not to fool anybody with your precognition bullshit anymore.

:lol: :lol: :lol: the desperation of these system junkies make me laugh.

What makes you think I care if you believe in precog or not.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 01:05 PM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 27, 12:56 PM 2020
😂😂😂😂 this guy is incredible

Precog, accept the offer, if you are viking   :thumbsup:

  :lol: :lol:

Anyone who wants to see if precognition works can do their own research. I don't need to waste my time on skeptics.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 01:07 PM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 01:05 PM 2020
  :lol: :lol:

Anyone who wants to see if precognition works can do their own research. I don't need to waste my time on skeptics.

I guess skepticism shows up when someone is not sure on something. But, proving them wrong, might eliminate this and skeptics will become believers.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: precogmiles on Apr 27, 01:17 PM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 27, 01:07 PM 2020
I guess skepticism shows up when someone is not sure on something. But, proving them wrong, might eliminate this and skeptics will become believers.

Sure and if anyone wants clarification they can research it. All the information you need to see why precognition works is on this forum, you don't even need to look far. This is not some secret, it is open to everyone.

But I honestly do not care who believes it or not as long as it is working for me.

Why all these system junkies are getting angry is beyond me.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: charly on Apr 27, 01:54 PM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 27, 01:03 PM 2020
:lol: :lol: :lol: the desperation of these system junkies make me laugh.

What makes you think I care if you believe in precog or not.
Loser
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 01:55 PM 2020
Well? I think i did about 1000 trials now:S...I found about "what betselection works, and what does not" etc. Again, Trial and Error, only way to find out....

so, since no-one has shown a serious interest in buying this system (and i don´t have the energy/time) with all the mails/selling/explaning etc. I decided to publish it (FOR FREE) And (Hopefully?) some will donate. idk? donations haven´t worked Ever so far as i have been on this forum i got 0$ in donations, but perhaps this will change, idk... :/ Just for the credits, i was inspired by the "repeaters discussion on the board", so credits to the forum, and all of you. Thank you.

BETSELECTION

This is a REPEATERS System. (You always look for Any repeating number from the Last 10 spins) OK.....You will *not* bet Every spin. You will COLLECT (not any "amount of repeters") BUT (How this was coded and played) You will COLLECT *the Amount of Repeating numbers* (numbers hit 2 times from the last 10 spins) BEFORE placing bets. That´s the Difference. SO....i tested then "What amount of Repeats" WORKS BEST, *Before placing bets* and this amount (from my endless Trials and Errors/testings) WAS *12 Repeters* (in the code the "data record is 13, but calculated as 12) anyways...so That´s the Basics.

PROCEDURE: As you NOTE down EVERY time a repeater come, (note down That number, IF a *new* repeater, IF SAME number repeat as already repeat, you STILL note down *How many Repeats has occured*+Any new repeater that come) SO! FINALLY; WHEN you Got *12 Repeats* (Not 12 "Repeating numbers, that is because some numbers will hit more than 2 times" Then You will PLACE BETS. (That is, you will Bet All numbers noted down).....That amount of repeaters can vary, but it´s always LESS than 12 (obviously) normally it is about 8-9 number BET. OK

PROCEDURE (part 2). AS you´ve placed the Bets, THEN you will ALSO bet Every *new repeter that come* (But i put a limit to MAX 18 Repeaters (within the code). ok....So That´s pretty much it..? As soon you get 1 hit. RESTART Procedure... (All Flatbet ofc) now

Chart 1-3 (FLATBET 5u bets).....Results may vary and results are not Guaranteed. I have seen losing charts also, so idk what the "winrate" would be. About "money management" Stoploss BR etc. That you have to figure yourself (idk)-

Hope you like it. Everyone cheers. And goodluck, (if you want to find tweaks, test yourself, and post your ideas/results in this Tread) But this is the best i could figure, so far (FLATBET).

Thank you.

RX-code
System "Last 10 Repeater"
// © ignatus 2020 ©

method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
   put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

   Set List [5,5,5,10,10,10,15,15,15,20,20,20,25,25,25,30,30,30,35,35,35,40,40,40,45,45,45,50,50,55,55,60,60,65,65,70,70,
             75,75,80,80,85,85,90,90,95,95,
             100,105,110,115,120,125,130,135,140,145,150,155,160,165,170,175,180,185,190,195,200,210,220,230,240,250,260,
             270,280,290,300,325,350,375,400,425,450,475,500]
   //1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,32,64,128,256,512,1024]
   to Record "progression" Data

end

while on each spin
begin

copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

if any inside bet lost each
begin
if total inside bets count >= 4 each
begin
//add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
end

if any inside bet won each
begin
       clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
       reset all flags false
      // add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
      { subtract 3 from Record "progression" Data Index
          if Record "progression" Data Index <= 0 each
          begin
          put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
          end
       }
       if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
    begin
        clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    end
end



If Record "Last1" layout is found within Record "Last10" layout each
begin
   if total inside bets count <= 18 each
   begin
   Set Max to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   Add 1 to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   copy Record "last1" layout to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
   end

  if record "Hotnumbers" layout count >= 13 each
  begin
  set flag "bet" true
  end

end

if flag "bet" true each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Hotnumbers" layout list
end




If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
    reset all flags false
    Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     End


{
if bankroll >= 500 each time
begin
stop session
end

if bankroll <= -2500 each time
begin
stop session
end
}

Track last number for 10 spins to
Record "last10" layout

  end
END

Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 02:46 PM 2020
Tested now 50 Live sessions. With a +250u WG and a -750u SL, it had about a 70-80% "winrate"....

Just one MM idea for testing idk.

System "Last 10 Repeater"
// © ignatus 2020 ©

method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
   put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

   Set List [5,5,5,10,10,10,15,15,15,20,20,20,25,25,25,30,30,30,35,35,35,40,40,40,45,45,45,50,50,55,55,60,60,65,65,70,70,
             75,75,80,80,85,85,90,90,95,95,
             100,105,110,115,120,125,130,135,140,145,150,155,160,165,170,175,180,185,190,195,200,210,220,230,240,250,260,
             270,280,290,300,325,350,375,400,425,450,475,500]
   //1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,32,64,128,256,512,1024]
   to Record "progression" Data

end

while on each spin
begin

copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

if any inside bet lost each
begin
if total inside bets count >= 4 each
begin
//add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
end

if any inside bet won each
begin
       clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
       reset all flags false
      // add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
      { subtract 3 from Record "progression" Data Index
          if Record "progression" Data Index <= 0 each
          begin
          put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
          end
       }
       if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
    begin
        clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    end
end



If Record "Last1" layout is found within Record "Last10" layout each
begin
   if total inside bets count <= 18 each
   begin
   Set Max to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   Add 1 to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   copy Record "last1" layout to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
   end

  if record "Hotnumbers" layout count >= 13 each
  begin
  set flag "bet" true
  end

end

if flag "bet" true each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Hotnumbers" layout list
end




If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
    reset all flags false
    Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     End



if bankroll >= 250 each time
begin
stop session
end

if bankroll <= -750 each time
begin
stop session
end


Track last number for 10 spins to
Record "last10" layout

  end
END
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Azim on Apr 27, 05:50 PM 2020
ignatus,
Can you change the >=250  to  0?
Run it and let's see the result.

Thanks, Azim
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 06:24 PM 2020
Ignatus, i really like your efforts but youre still looking in the wrong area. Youre still not understanding your bet selections have random accuracy. You change nothing. Youre not understanding the basics.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Winner on Apr 27, 07:09 PM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 27, 01:55 PM 2020
Well? I think i did about 1000 trials now:S...I found about "what betselection works, and what does not" etc. Again, Trial and Error, only way to find out....

so, since no-one has shown a serious interest in buying this system (and i don´t have the energy/time) with all the mails/selling/explaning etc. I decided to publish it (FOR FREE) And (Hopefully?) some will donate. idk? donations haven´t worked Ever so far as i have been on this forum i got 0$ in donations, but perhaps this will change, idk... :/ Just for the credits, i was inspired by the "repeaters discussion on the board", so credits to the forum, and all of you. Thank you.

BETSELECTION

This is a REPEATERS System. (You always look for Any repeating number from the Last 10 spins) OK.....You will *not* bet Every spin. You will COLLECT (not any "amount of repeters") BUT (How this was coded and played) You will COLLECT *the Amount of Repeating numbers* (numbers hit 2 times from the last 10 spins) BEFORE placing bets. That´s the Difference. SO....i tested then "What amount of Repeats" WORKS BEST, *Before placing bets* and this amount (from my endless Trials and Errors/testings) WAS *12 Repeters* (in the code the "data record is 13, but calculated as 12) anyways...so That´s the Basics.

PROCEDURE: As you NOTE down EVERY time a repeater come, (note down That number, IF a *new* repeater, IF SAME number repeat as already repeat, you STILL note down *How many Repeats has occured*+Any new repeater that come) SO! FINALLY; WHEN you Got *12 Repeats* (Not 12 "Repeating numbers, that is because some numbers will hit more than 2 times" Then You will PLACE BETS. (That is, you will Bet All numbers noted down).....That amount of repeaters can vary, but it´s always LESS than 12 (obviously) normally it is about 8-9 number BET. OK

PROCEDURE (part 2). AS you´ve placed the Bets, THEN you will ALSO bet Every *new repeter that come* (But i put a limit to MAX 18 Repeaters (within the code). ok....So That´s pretty much it..? As soon you get 1 hit. RESTART Procedure... (All Flatbet ofc) now

Chart 1-3 (FLATBET 5u bets).....Results may vary and results are not Guaranteed. I have seen losing charts also, so idk what the "winrate" would be. About "money management" Stoploss BR etc. That you have to figure yourself (idk)-

Hope you like it. Everyone cheers. And goodluck, (if you want to find tweaks, test yourself, and post your ideas/results in this Tread) But this is the best i could figure, so far (FLATBET).

Thank you.

RX-code
System "Last 10 Repeater"
// © ignatus 2020 ©

method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
   put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

   Set List [5,5,5,10,10,10,15,15,15,20,20,20,25,25,25,30,30,30,35,35,35,40,40,40,45,45,45,50,50,55,55,60,60,65,65,70,70,
             75,75,80,80,85,85,90,90,95,95,
             100,105,110,115,120,125,130,135,140,145,150,155,160,165,170,175,180,185,190,195,200,210,220,230,240,250,260,
             270,280,290,300,325,350,375,400,425,450,475,500]
   //1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,32,64,128,256,512,1024]
   to Record "progression" Data

end

while on each spin
begin

copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

if any inside bet lost each
begin
if total inside bets count >= 4 each
begin
//add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
end

if any inside bet won each
begin
       clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
       reset all flags false
      // add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
      { subtract 3 from Record "progression" Data Index
          if Record "progression" Data Index <= 0 each
          begin
          put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
          end
       }
       if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
    begin
        clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    end
end



If Record "Last1" layout is found within Record "Last10" layout each
begin
   if total inside bets count <= 18 each
   begin
   Set Max to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   Add 1 to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   copy Record "last1" layout to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
   end

  if record "Hotnumbers" layout count >= 13 each
  begin
  set flag "bet" true
  end

end

if flag "bet" true each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Hotnumbers" layout list
end




If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
    reset all flags false
    Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     End


{
if bankroll >= 500 each time
begin
stop session
end

if bankroll <= -2500 each time
begin
stop session
end
}

Track last number for 10 spins to
Record "last10" layout

  end
END

I guess my question would be how many actual bets are made in this 400.000 spins what is the wait time between hits ?
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 08:38 PM 2020
Quote from: Azim on Apr 27, 05:50 PM 2020
ignatus,
Can you change the >=250  to  0?
Run it and let's see the result.

Thanks, Azim

Now, played (without WG), just stoploss -750u

System "Last 10 Repeater"
// © ignatus 2020 ©

method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
   put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

   Set List [5,5,5,10,10,10,15,15,15,20,20,20,25,25,25,30,30,30,35,35,35,40,40,40,45,45,45,50,50,55,55,60,60,65,65,70,70,
             75,75,80,80,85,85,90,90,95,95,
             100,105,110,115,120,125,130,135,140,145,150,155,160,165,170,175,180,185,190,195,200,210,220,230,240,250,260,
             270,280,290,300,325,350,375,400,425,450,475,500]
   //1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,32,64,128,256,512,1024]
   to Record "progression" Data

end

while on each spin
begin

copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

if any inside bet lost each
begin
if total inside bets count >= 4 each
begin
//add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
end

if any inside bet won each
begin
       clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
       reset all flags false
      // add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
      { subtract 3 from Record "progression" Data Index
          if Record "progression" Data Index <= 0 each
          begin
          put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
          end
       }
       if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
    begin
        clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    end
end



If Record "Last1" layout is found within Record "Last10" layout each
begin
   if total inside bets count <= 18 each
   begin
   Set Max to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   Add 1 to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   copy Record "last1" layout to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
   end

  if record "Hotnumbers" layout count >= 13 each
  begin
  set flag "bet" true
  end

end

if flag "bet" true each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Hotnumbers" layout list
end




If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
    reset all flags false
    Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     End


{
if bankroll >= 250 each time
begin
stop session
end
}

if bankroll <= -750 each time
begin
stop session
end


Track last number for 10 spins to
Record "last10" layout

  end
END
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 08:41 PM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Apr 27, 06:24 PM 2020
Ignatus, i really like your efforts but youre still looking in the wrong area. Youre still not understanding your bet selections have random accuracy. You change nothing. Youre not understanding the basics.

As always "maybe so", but this i demonstrated FLATBET (as was the wish), now it had a 70-80% winrate FLATBET. YOU may have a Flatbet-system with "higher winrate", show me Any one got a FLATBET system with 70-80% "winrate" on this forum then ok.....

Now, depending on the BR, resuts may vary, also possible to add a mild progression (That is still not forbidden), why should it be?...
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: Azim on Apr 27, 08:45 PM 2020
ignatus,

I don't have RX...  Can't test it. Do you mind doing it?
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 27, 09:32 PM 2020
Quote from: Azim on Apr 27, 08:45 PM 2020
ignatus,

I don't have RX...  Can't test it. Do you mind doing it?

no. download RX-trial or buy the software, i have done enough.
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: ignatus on Apr 28, 12:21 PM 2020
Added progression Now. MAXBET 100u

Progressionline; 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,7,7,8,8,9,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,20,22,24,28,30,33,38,45,50,65,75,85,100

+1 Step for Each LOSS and Each WIN (and Reset when reached a new high)...

RX.code
System "Last 10 Repeater"
// © ignatus 2020 ©

method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
   put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

   Set List [1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,7,7,8,8,9,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,20,22,24,28,30,33,38,45,50,65,75,85,100]
   {5,5,5,10,10,10,15,15,15,20,20,20,25,25,25,30,30,30,35,35,35,40,40,40,45,45,45,50,50,55,55,60,60,65,65,70,70,
             75,75,80,80,85,85,90,90,95,95,
             100,105,110,115,120,125,130,135,140,145,150,155,160,165,170,175,180,185,190,195,200,210,220,230,240,250,260,
             270,280,290,300,325,350,375,400,425,450,475,500]
   }
   //1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,32,64,128,256,512,1024]
   to Record "progression" Data

end

while on each spin
begin

copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

if any inside bet lost each
begin
if total inside bets count >= 4 each
begin
add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
end
end

if any inside bet won each
begin
       clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
       reset all flags false
       add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
      { subtract 1 from Record "progression" Data Index
          if Record "progression" Data Index <= 0 each
          begin
          put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
          end
       }
       if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
    begin
        clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    end
end



If Record "Last1" layout is found within Record "Last10" layout each
begin
   if total inside bets count <= 18 each
   begin
   Set Max to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   Add 1 to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
   copy Record "last1" layout to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
   end

  if record "Hotnumbers" layout count >= 22 each
  begin
  set flag "bet" true
  end

end

if flag "bet" true each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Hotnumbers" layout list
end




If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
    reset all flags false
    Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     End


{
if bankroll >= 1000 each time
begin
stop session
end


if bankroll <= -2000 each time
begin
stop session
end
}

Track last number for 10 spins to
Record "last10" layout

  end
END
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: VENERE98 on Nov 10, 03:57 PM 2020
Quote from: cht on Apr 27, 09:28 AM 2020
This proposal makes sense.

It's very difficult to devise a systems betting strategy that has a positive edge.
We all hv tried and failed.
Based on the content on forum there's nothing here that grants a positive edge. Nothing.
So, good proposal to pool your brains as one work together.
As a group you might get lucky.

con 75000 boule qualsiasi sistema cadrebbe, sei sicuro che proprio tutti ???? dipende dal modo di vedere le cose, io faccio profitti, e mi bastano 1000 boule al giorno, perche' dovrei continuare, poi ognuno ha il suo modo di vedere la roulette, ma alla fine se per 360 giorni all'anno vinci ogni giorno, io reputo un sistema vincente
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: praline on Nov 10, 04:24 PM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 27, 05:23 AM 2020
i am willing to sell this now, it´s not a "Grail" but very close, so im thinking now perhaps a price between 200-300$ IF anyone interested.

If you are willing to sell it, you should also modify "max drop down"

Otherwise it's clear that you are a cheater.

Lowest -11 952
At spin 91181


Where is it, Ignatus???
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: praline on Nov 10, 05:20 PM 2020
Quote from: VENERE98 on Nov 10, 03:57 PM 2020con 75000 boule qualsiasi sistema cadrebbe, sei sicuro che proprio tutti ? dipende dal modo di vedere le cose, io faccio profitti, e mi bastano 1000 boule al giorno, perche' dovrei continuare, poi ognuno ha il suo modo di vedere la roulette, ma alla fine se per 360 giorni all'anno vinci ogni giorno, io reputo un sistema vincente


E vai a vincere...allora


Che minchia rompi alla gente?!
Title: Re: System that passed 400 000 Random spins.
Post by: praline on Nov 10, 05:42 PM 2020
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