Hi, everyone!
I'm a newbie here. I discovered this forum 1 week ago. What I can see, here a lot of good players with a lot of experience in playing roulette. One big problem I have! Here are a lot of systems and I don't know which have the best results. I don't know what method to test. I can't test all that you have here. For example, I start to read a topic, I think the method is good for testing and another day I discover another one.
So, I'm not sure that this is a good question:
What method from the forum do you think that is the best, till now?
I want to test one method until the end.
Thank you!
You are doing a great job here!
LCDP
In my opinion (personally I haven't tested it yet) the best way to win at roulette is Steve's way. Physics! I can say that based on what I've read about it, based on Steve's blog/posts/threads.
Regarding systems/strategies/ways of playing... I am a fan of playing repeaters. I think that's the second best way to play roulette and also win.
Of course you'll hear from many users here on this forum that this/that system is the best... I am trying to give you my personal opinion, in case it helps.
So, to conclude, my advice is either to go for Steve's way, either read all that is on this forum and it's based on repeaters and try to find your way of play. But, be careful: there is no system/strategy discovered yet that will provide you profit on the long run! At least, it hasn't been discovered yet!
Thank you very much, Stefan!
So no one from the forum lives from roulette!
This is what I wanted to know.
Also, I'm attracted to repeaters methods. I have one that I played before. I will try to post it here. Repeater methods are good because logical is that if a no comes 2 times is impossible to don't come 3 times. My opinion is that playing 12 or 13 repeaters is the best way to win with a good system. Also, I know is that roulette is playing most of the time hot numbers.
Thank you
LCDP
Quote from: LCDP on May 06, 07:10 AM 2020
Thank you very much, Stefan!
So no one from the forum lives from roulette!
This is what I wanted to know.
Also, I'm attracted to repeaters methods. I have one that I played before. I will try to post it here. Repeater methods are good because logical is that if a no comes 2 times is impossible to don't come 3 times. My opinion is that playing 12 or 13 repeaters is the best way to win with a good system. Also, I know is that roulette is playing most of the time hot numbers.
Thank you
LCDP
I wouldn't say that no one here lives from roulette. I don't know that and I can't say it.
Regarding your method... you should be careful. Been there, done that. It's a good method, but it has ups and downs. And without a pretty good BR... you might get into some surprises
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on May 06, 07:30 AM 2020I wouldn't say that no one here lives from roulette. I don't know that and I can't say it.
I could easily but have other income sources. Ive worked with about 2000 players now and maybe about 100 of them play full time. But still probably everyone has other income sources too.
Roulette is mostly a supplement to existing income, not a full time revenue source.
Quote from: Steve on May 06, 07:49 AM 2020
I could easily but have other income sources. Ive worked with about 2000 players now and maybe about 100 of them play full time. But still probably everyone has other income sources too.
Roulette is mostly a supplement to existing income, not a full time revenue source.
This is half the truth - roulette is often a decrement to an existing income
:xd:
LCDP, the only ways to win long term in roulette is using physics or precognition. All the other systems and methods that you will find here will make you lose in the long run!
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 06, 08:00 AM 2020
This is half the truth - roulette is often a decrement to an existing income
:xd:
Only if you're clueless
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 06, 08:00 AM 2020
This is half the truth - roulette is often a decrement to an existing income.
:xd:
If any adult use their brain a little they know if there's truth or not.
Roulette is a recreation hobby at best an intellectual pursuit. Ah! I beat the wheel.
If it counts for income or wealth creation such person do have a problem.
And when you're dead, you see its all a game. An experience.
I don't know but if I will can win 1000 Euros, per month with roulette. I will be very happy. I'm not greedy.
Thank you
LCDP
Quote from: cht on May 06, 08:40 AM 2020
If any adult use their brain a little they know if there's truth or not.
Roulette is a recreation hobby at best an intellectual pursuit. Ah! I beat the wheel.
If it counts for income or wealth creation such person do have a problem.
Let me ask you something: suppose you have a 1000units BR. How hard would it be for you (or someone else) to earn 20units? Just asking....
Don't play roulette for real money if you are newbie, here you can not find working system.
So no chance for me to make 1000 euro with roulette.
Thank you!
Also, this is a good forum with intelligent peoples. I like to read everything here.
Good luck
It is possible! Depends on how you play, how large is your BR...
Hello LCDP :) Welcome to the Forum.
Until you learn the game imo do not play with real money.
Look for seasoned player(s) and glean experience.
There are also books out there to aid in your Grail search.
Quote from: LCDP on May 06, 10:54 AM 2020
So no chance for me to make 1000 euro with roulette.
Thank you!
Also, this is a good forum with intelligent peoples. I like to read everything here.
Good luck
Just tinkle with repeaters and sleepers and virtual bets and triggers and trending for fun if you want. No money required.
Steve's roulette computers are irrelevant here since it requires fair compensation for it's actual value.
With so much bad advice given out on this forum, I think it would be helpful if Steve could create a new sticky thread for the newbies:
- Explaining why systems don't work and why they should stay way from them
- Holy grail being an illusion
- If their goal is to make money from roulette - they should be prepared to put in many hours and testing first, before using real money to play.
I know this information has already been said many times, but I think there should be a sticky - that should be mandatory to read upon creating a new account on this site. It would save a lot of time and money for many people.
We don't need anymore system junkies - we need people who would contribute new and innovating ideas.
Yes, thank you all!
I appreciate all your advices.
I'm not so newbie because I'm playing in real casinos for a few years. But don't have a satisfying method to generate me an 100% monthly income. I have a job like a normal man. Good salary but you know every time we need more. I treat roulette like a hobby but I know I need to study more if I don't want just to lose my time. When I'm in casinos I'm playing simple methods. If I win I go home. I'm not greedy and this helps me.
I have friends who lose everything, houses, cars, family, business, because of roulette. They didn't know when to stop. Also, my last boss loses the company in the casino. I had to find another job lol.
So first I just listen to your advice and after I will try to create something.
Thank you
Have a good day!
LCDP
Quote from: LCDP on May 06, 12:06 PM 2020
Yes, thank you all!
I appreciate all your advices.
I'm not so newbie because I'm playing in real casinos for a few years. But don't have a satisfying method to generate me an 100% monthly income. I have a job like a normal man. Good salary but you know every time we need more. I treat roulette like a hobby but I know I need to study more if I don't want just to lose my time. When I'm in casinos I'm playing simple methods. If I win I go home. I'm not greedy and this helps me.
I have friends who lose everything, houses, cars, family, business, because of roulette. They didn't know when to stop. Also, my last boss loses the company in the casino. I had to find another job lol.
So first I just listen to your advice and after I will try to create something.
Thank you
Have a good day!
LCDP
LOL your Story can become a Hollywood film
It’s better to stay away of people around you who are desperate and addicted to roulette.
You saying that your salary is good, why you want more ?
try to use your free time in something more useful than losing money to the casino.
Because I like math. In my free time, I'm going to the Gym, swim. Roulette is interesting. It opens your mind.
Thank you
LCDP
Quote from: LCDP on May 07, 04:30 AM 2020
Because I like math. In my free time, I'm going to the Gym, swim. Roulette is interesting. It opens your mind.
Thank you
LCDP
LOL, roulette can open something else than your mind!
If you start losing, and become addicted, it will eventually open your ar*e, that’s why I don’t recommend people play roulette unless they use Steve‘s computers :twisted: :twisted:
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on May 06, 09:10 AM 2020
Let me ask you something: suppose you have a 1000units BR. How hard would it be for you (or someone else) to earn 20units? Just asking....
Once? It totally depends on your luck.
Every time? That would be very hard with traditional systems.
Unfortunately a big bankroll is not enough to survive a long losing streak. It can delay the loss, but in the end you will lose big.
I used to play 1 cent roulette with a over â,¬500 bankroll. So I had over 50000 units. It sounds safe, but it didn't take long to lose it all with progressions.
Quote from: ati on May 07, 05:51 PM 2020
Once? It totally depends on your luck.
Every time? That would be very hard with traditional systems.
Unfortunately a big bankroll is not enough to survive a long losing streak. It can delay the loss, but in the end you will lose big.
I used to play 1 cent roulette with a over â,¬500 bankroll. So I had over 50000 units. It sounds safe, but it didn't take long to lose it all with progressions.
It's not so hard, really! Sorry to hear about your loss, I am sure it happens. But still... you need a clear mind, a pretty good bet selection and a good MM. This is my opinion... with 1000units BR, you can easily make 20units in a few spins. And if you manage to do that a few times a day, you can raise a nice amount.
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on May 08, 02:12 AM 2020
It's not so hard, really! Sorry to hear about your loss, I am sure it happens. But still... you need a clear mind, a pretty good bet selection and a good MM. This is my opinion... with 1000units BR, you can easily make 20units in a few spins. And if you manage to do that a few times a day, you can raise a nice amount.
Sorry but that sounds delusional. You cannot make "easily" a small amount on a regular basis. Otherwise everyone would be doing it. Many people think like they just want to win $20 a day and that's it. But it's not how it works. If you can win $20 a day, you could also win $2000 a day. There is zero difference, raising the stakes will not change your odds of winning.
Short term is non existent, playing 50 spins a day for 10 days is no different from playing 500 spins on one day. Every step, like short sessions, stop losses, recovery sessions, clever progressions, "don't get greedy" attitude is only delaying the loss. But it will come.
Just look at how many people on the forum at one point proudly posted that they are winning $200 or so every day for weeks, but then all of them suddenly turned quiet and disappeared, or started looking for the next winning system.
Many years ago I too had 30-40 winning days in a row, of course I thought I had found the HG, maybe I even bragged about it. But the progression and playing only 1 hour a day only delayed what was inevitable.
Quote from: ati on May 08, 06:25 AM 2020
Sorry but that sounds delusional. You cannot make "easily" a small amount on a regular basis. Otherwise everyone would be doing it. Many people think like they just want to win $20 a day and that's it. But it's not how it works. If you can win $20 a day, you could also win $2000 a day. There is zero difference, raising the stakes will not change your odds of winning.
Short term is non existent, playing 50 spins a day for 10 days is no different from playing 500 spins on one day. Every step, like short sessions, stop losses, recovery sessions, clever progressions, "don't get greedy" attitude is only delaying the loss. But it will come.
Just look at how many people on the forum at one point proudly posted that they are winning $200 or so every day for weeks, but then all of them suddenly turned quiet and disappeared, or started looking for the next winning system.
Many years ago I too had 30-40 winning days in a row, of course I thought I had found the HG, maybe I even bragged about it. But the progression and playing only 1 hour a day only delayed what was inevitable.
Yes this was your destiny, the progression. But what if you would use flatbet, would you still lose all your winnings?
I not agree that 10x50 is equal one long 500 spin test. Under 50 spins depending on your system the variance probably cant be appear so hard, and you after 50 spins stop, and end the session. The next 50 number is another sequence, the variance still on low, and you can manage it with your wingoals etc. Playing a long 500 spin continuouslya killer, the variance is huge I cant explain it in more detail.
I would have lost, but much slower. Every bet has negative expected value.
It probably won't convince you, but if you really understand what random and independence means, you realize that from variance point of view it makes no difference whether you play short sessions or long sessions.
What can fool people is the fact that it's quite possible for someone to almost always enter the game when it's going to win, for a long period of time. When I won 40 days straight without loss, I played rng every day. But what if an average player who plays in a casino once a week does the same. He would win 40 weeks straight, and I would tell the whole world how smart his systems is and it cannot lose.
Let data speak.
Here is a chart for flat bet play on dominant dozen for 10K continuous spins. The result is close to the expected -270. Below that I randomly selected 80 times 20 continuous spins to be our short session games and combined the result. It didn't make any difference.
(link:s://pichost.net/i/2020/05/08/image5137706cce2e3d84.png)
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I agree ati. I really don't get what is so hard to understand about why roulette is impossible to beat using a system.
A winning roulette system is an oxymoron.
To add to the complication the casinos will cheat when they have to. They do not need to cheat, but they do on occations so that they can make a profit everyday.
Just look on YouTube for videos of the ball moving in extremely bizarre ways. Again they don't do it every spin but it does happen.
I can tell you what I'm doing for 2 weeks even if I'm a beginner. Maybe I'm right maybe not.
With a bankroll of 200 pounds, I'm playing this method: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27064.15
and this: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27062.msg240394;topicseen#msg240394
I play just flatbet no progression. Hit and run!
I have 200 units balance if I manage to win in 5 minutes 10 units or 20 depends on my luck I just quit. and I play the next day the same thing. Just real dealer online. At Grand Casino. I'm playing till reach a new high lol. I don't care if I make 5 pounds or 10 or 20. I'm happy with this.
Untill now is working. In 2 weeks I doubled my balance.
I don't want to play more than a few minutes per day because this will make me lose. Maybe I will get greedy. I don't know.
And I know that not every day is the same. I will lose my balance maybe today, maybe tomorrow. But I only invest the money I can afford to lose.
Thank you for sharing your methods!
You're amazing!
Have a nice day
LCDP
Quote from: LCDP on May 08, 08:33 AM 2020
I can tell you what I'm doing for 2 weeks even if I'm a beginner. Maybe I'm right maybe not.
With a bankroll of 200 pounds, I'm playing this method: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27064.15
and this: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27062.msg240394;topicseen#msg240394
I play just flatbet no progression. Hit and run!
I have 200 units balance if I manage to win in 5 minutes 10 units or 20 depends on my luck I just quit. and I play the next day the same thing. Just real dealer online. At Grand Casino. I'm playing till reach a new high lol. I don't care if I make 5 pounds or 10 or 20. I'm happy with this.
Untill now is working. In 2 weeks I doubled my balance.
I don't want to play more than a few minutes per day because this will make me lose. Maybe I will get greedy. I don't know.
And I know that not every day is the same. I will lose my balance maybe today, maybe tomorrow. But I only invest the money I can afford to lose.
Thank you for sharing your methods!
You're amazing!
Have a nice day
LCDP
So you play roulette to have fun?
Why waste your time playing a system then? Just make random guesses. That is more exciting.
Quote from: precogmiles on May 08, 08:22 AM 2020
I agree ati. I really don't get what is so hard to understand about why roulette is impossible to beat using a system.
A winning roulette system is an oxymoron.
To add to the complication the casinos will cheat when they have to. They do not need to cheat, but they do on occations so that they can make a profit everyday.
Just look on YouTube for videos of the ball moving in extremely bizarre ways. Again they don't do it every spin but it does happen.
Yes beating roulette with mechanical bets is almost impossible, buth with method and srrategy beatable everybody, who is here, knows, because they woukdnt be here in roulette forum, if they dont believe beating roulette.
Quote from: Steve on May 06, 07:49 AM 2020
I could easily but have other income sources. Ive worked with about 2000 players now and maybe about 100 of them play full time. But still probably everyone has other income sources too.
Roulette is mostly a supplement to existing income, not a full time revenue source.
Well said. If one isan experienced researcher and skilled player with strategies, how long have u experienced on of your full-time player makes it or does it vary to much to count?
Quote from: ati on May 08, 07:44 AM 2020
I would have lost, but much slower. Every bet has negative expected value.
It probably won't convince you, but if you really understand what random and independence means, you realize that from variance point of view it makes no difference whether you play short sessions or long sessions.
What can fool people is the fact that it's quite possible for someone to almost always enter the game when it's going to win, for a long period of time. When I won 40 days straight without loss, I played rng every day. But what if an average player who plays in a casino once a week does the same. He would win 40 weeks straight, and I would tell the whole world how smart his systems is and it cannot lose.
Let data speak.
Here is a chart for flat bet play on dominant dozen for 10K continuous spins. The result is close to the expected -270. Below that I randomly selected 80 times 20 continuous spins to be our short session games and combined the result. It didn't make any difference.
(link:s://pichost.net/i/2020/05/08/image5137706cce2e3d84.png)
(link:s://pichost.net/i/2020/05/08/imagee57789c40e83aab4.png)
Thank you for posting this. Maybe you will be able to get it through to the system junkies.
Quote from: winforus on May 10, 12:58 PM 2020
Thank you for posting this. Maybe you will be able to get it through to the system junkies.
The system tested is crap, that’s why it failed.
How can you generalise like that, this system failed therefore all systems fail.
How are you getting on with poker?
The best method beside Steves hidden camera and other devices is to place bets only on winning numbers.