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Title: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: bluediamond2013 on May 29, 02:41 PM 2020
Hey guys

We're all here to find a strategy to make some money... so dont we just all come together and make a strategy that we can all make money with?

Everyone please share what strategy they are using now.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 29, 02:45 PM 2020
Quote from: bluediamond2013 on May 29, 02:41 PM 2020
Hey guys

We're all here to find a strategy to make some money... so dont we just all come together and make a strategy that we can all make money with?

Everyone please share what strategy they are using now.

Thanks
Scott

Welcome to the C Party.  You'd fit right in.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 29, 03:42 PM 2020
Quote from: bluediamond2013 on May 29, 02:41 PM 2020Everyone please share what strategy they are using now.
I'm using the strategy of telling people how to win in order to prove that the mathNazi's have always been wrong.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 29, 03:45 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 29, 03:42 PM 2020
I'm using the strategy of telling people how to win in order to prove that the mathNazi's have always been wrong.

And my challenge is still pending.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 29, 03:47 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 29, 03:45 PM 2020
And my challenge is still pending.

If you are waiting for something then I must have lost your meaning somewhere in translation. Perhaps you could make what you expect more clear. Anyone else get or understand his challenge?
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: bluediamond2013 on May 29, 04:01 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 29, 03:42 PM 2020
I'm using the strategy of telling people how to win in order to prove that the mathNazi's have always been wrong.

And what strategy is this?

I know its possible to win at roulette, i have a old chinese customer who has bought his previous cars from me (when i use to work at a car dealer) i use to come in and say "i have won big at roulette again what can i buy?" He told me that he wins $1k a week every week. And he wouldnt tell me how he does it.... not even a cheeky clue. :'(
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 29, 06:17 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 29, 03:47 PM 2020
If you are waiting for something then I must have lost your meaning somewhere in translation. Perhaps you could make what you expect more clear. Anyone else get or understand his challenge?

Mano e Mano.  Same wheel.  500 spins.  See who comes out on top.  Catching trends.  Nothing more.  For fun.

Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on May 29, 06:21 PM 2020
Bluediamond, Steve has recently released two new videos. Have you watched them? On top of this forum these videos are attached.

Have you read the information on his website? link:s://:.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy/

Before you start coming up with a strategy, you should understand the basic fundamentals as to how casinos make money, and why the players lose.

This applies to all gambling games of chance, not just to Roulette. If you don't understand the basics, then the foundation that your strategy will be built on will be flawed to begin with - which is what most "system" players do.

Also, Steve has a a very good free course, that imo will help you get the basic fundamentals down: link:s://:.roulettephysics.com/banners/subscribe.html
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Elite on May 29, 09:17 PM 2020
Quote from: bluediamond2013 on May 29, 04:01 PM 2020
And what strategy is this?

I know its possible to win at roulette, i have a old chinese customer who has bought his previous cars from me (when i use to work at a car dealer) i use to come in and say "i have won big at roulette again what can i buy?" He told me that he wins $1k a week every week. And he wouldnt tell me how he does it.... not even a cheeky clue. :'(

You can get his number from showroom database, contact him and greet him. better to give his number to Steve, May be he is using one of Steve computer
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: FreeRoulette on May 30, 01:07 AM 2020
Quote from: bluediamond2013 on May 29, 02:41 PM 2020
Hey guys

We're all here to find a strategy to make some money... so dont we just all come together and make a strategy that we can all make money with?

Everyone please share what strategy they are using now.

Thanks
Scott

Okay, but this would involve us bankrolling the roulette table and taking profit from players like the casino. We could do profit sharing. Where we own an online casino and give people strategies to use. We could have normal rules, with one exception. We allow martingale. Table max is 500, until you are playing martingale on consecutive spins.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 01:36 AM 2020
Quote from: bluediamond2013 on May 29, 04:01 PM 2020And what strategy is this?
I call the mathBoyz names. That's my plan. I came up with a new name for them tonight. There are the constipated neoMath absolutists that are sure that you can't beat basic probability. But there is a class that have always been with us that can't see opportunities of coincidence. These people are mathZombies.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 01:40 AM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 29, 06:17 PM 2020Mano e Mano.  Same wheel.  500 spins.  See who comes out on top.  Catching trends.  Nothing more.  For fun.
You can't force randomness to have coincidental opportunity. You must wait for what presents itself.

Quote
Let me show you another characteristic that you can store away (Zombie) - just kidding. I just had a great idea. These people are just like math zombies as a reflection of that great video of the Cranberries and the song Zombie. "In your Head, In your head..." What a song.

Look between line 65 and 89 in the Black & Red section of the chart located near the left edge. There is a total absence of singles in that grouping. It's a bag of gold just waiting for a skillful player to grab it. A Pro Gambler would know exactly how to pounce on it. It's a not well formed streak of triples also. Interesting how mathZombies can't use information like that.



Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 02:04 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 01:40 AM 2020
You can't force randomness to have coincidental opportunity. You must wait for what presents itself.

Yes.  Or no.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on May 30, 09:05 AM 2020
Gizmontron, would you be able to demonstrate it on MPR or this site link:s://roulette-simulator.info/en/simulator/ ?

It is free to create an account and play. If what you are claiming is true, this would be an easy way to show it in practice.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:44 AM 2020
Quote from: winforus on May 30, 09:05 AM 2020
Gizmontron, would you be able to demonstrate it on MPR or this site link:s://roulette-simulator.info/en/simulator/ ?

It is free to create an account and play. If what you are claiming is true, this would be an easy way to show it in practice.

I already did that. I won every session until I just blind guessed into oblivion. I was board with it and I began to suspect that the sim lets you win. So I took up real. I have been gambling online at a sight that I suspect throws extra losing streaks into the mix on each session. It doesn't wreck me because I sit out losing streaks. But that is not scientifically validated. I heard there are sights that offer spin result confirmation. So I'm looking for one that actually pays you if you win. Steve has a suggested one. I just need to learn about processing hash algorithms. I've done it before in my own software for validation purposes. But I need to use the same hash function that the casino uses.  This fake stuff surprises me because there sure are a lot of really good gamblers on the winners list. With all that Roulette should be shut down by now.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:50 AM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 30, 02:04 AM 2020Yes.  Or no.
No, 500 spins is BS. Anyway. I don't give a rat's ass if you learn Reading Randomness or not.  It's out there to run a head trip on the mathgZombies. Nobody would give away a working HG. Ha ha, I did. You are scratching your head and trying to trip me up. But I don't care. You should try to get someone else to validate the universe and to influence those that control it for you. I'm just sitting back and enjoying the view.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on May 30, 10:18 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:44 AM 2020
I already did that. I won every session until I just blind guessed into oblivion. I was board with it and I began to suspect that the sim lets you win. So I took up real. I have been gambling online at a sight that I suspect throws extra losing streaks into the mix on each session. It doesn't wreck me because I sit out losing streaks. But that is not scientifically validated. I heard there are sights that offer spin result confirmation. So I'm looking for one that actually pays you if you win. Steve has a suggested one. I just need to learn about processing hash algorithms. I've done it before in my own software for validation purposes. But I need to use the same hash function that the casino uses.  This fake stuff surprises me because there sure are a lot of really good gamblers on the winners list. With all that Roulette should be shut down by now.

MPR is legit as far as I know - Steve created it and he can prove it to you, so this doesn’t make any sense.  A person who claimed precogniton worked also demonstrated it on there without any problems - he didn’t blame the software.

Winning some sessions and then losing due to guessing, is not winning. The same can be done with random bets. If “reading randomness” works, you should be able to demonstrate yourself winning over a decent sample size on there.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 10:35 AM 2020
Quote from: winforus on May 30, 10:18 AM 2020Winning some sessions and then losing due to guessing, is not winning. The same can be done with random bets. If “reading randomness” works, you should be able to demonstrate yourself winning over a decent sample size on there.
I have a plan for validation. I show people what the skill is, demonstrate the skill, answer questions about the skill, and just wait until the casinos see it.  More and more people will develop the skill. It's a very simple plan.  I did not say losing because of guessing. I said blind guessing. That means without concern for what will happen. It went right into free fall, just as I suspected that it would. There are far more winners on Steve's MPR than there are in real casinos.  I just see it as amazing if looking for a better way to describe it. That alone makes me wonder why so much arguing goes on around here.  All those people are winners but they still argue about what works and what does not work. I can build a game like that that cheats to make you win.  I would think it's a kind of amusing flypaper.  It's practice and it starts out with a very good bankroll.  I started winning my 3 net wins and done stuff. It's just too easy. After 50 or 60 sessions you start to suspect something. And one guy got to a trillion in only 2 to 4 hundred spins. How did that work?
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: MumboJumbo on May 30, 11:12 AM 2020
Quote from: bluediamond2013 on May 29, 02:41 PM 2020
Hey guys

We're all here to find a strategy to make some money... so dont we just all come together and make a strategy that we can all make money with?

Everyone please share what strategy they are using now.

Thanks
Scott
No way to give for free.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on May 30, 11:15 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 10:35 AM 2020
I have a plan for validation. I show people what the skill is, demonstrate the skill, answer questions about the skill, and just wait until the casinos see it.  More and more people will develop the skill. It's a very simple plan.  I did not say losing because of guessing. I said blind guessing. That means without concern for what will happen.

This still doesn't explain why you couldn't demonstrate yourself winning over a decent sample size. All you need to do, is play for a good number of spins and "read randomness", and then show this.

Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 10:35 AM 2020
There are far more winners on Steve's MPR than there are in real casinos. 

This is not true, here is a screenshot of current leaderboard: link:s://prnt.sc/sqodj7

If you look at players who have played 200+ spins, majority have a win rate of below 1.0. And those that are above 1.0, are just slightly breaking even. The players with very low number of spins are not to be taken in account, as anyone can create many accounts - hit on them and leave that win rate.

Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 10:35 AM 2020
And one guy got to a trillion in only 2 to 4 hundred spins. How did that work?

The trillion doesn't matter -anyone can do it with some luck and by using very aggressive progression. The bankroll on there does not matter, what matters is the win rate. The win rate determines how accurate their bets care.

if reading randomness really works - you can demonstrate it on MPR or on link:s://roulette-simulator.info/  over a decent sample size. If you will start blaming the software (which as I explained there is no reason to), it will only discredit your case.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Nimo on May 30, 11:23 AM 2020
Check out Nisa's strategy on Roulette Simulator.  Simple, effective and profitable on RNG, Live, Air and Auto.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on May 30, 11:42 AM 2020
And gizmontron, the same thing happens in real casinos. Most of players lose in the long run - but those that win short term, are convinced that their systems work and continue to play, until it hits them. This even happened to Steve in his first years of playing Roulette - until he eventually lost (before he realized the fundamental mistakes that system players make, as he was also a system player).

The same applies to all games of chance - not just to Roulette.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Clf7 on May 30, 11:52 AM 2020
Quote from: Nimo on May 30, 11:23 AM 2020
Check out Nisa's strategy on Roulette Simulator.  Simple, effective and profitable on RNG, Live, Air and Auto.

On wich simulator? RX? could you post a link of the strategy? Thanks
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Nimo on May 30, 11:58 AM 2020
Quote from: Clf7 on May 30, 11:52 AM 2020
On wich simulator? RX? could you post a link of the strategy? Thanks

link:s://roulette-simulator.info/en/user/2ccc2826b445aebac6f6b3f8013e7931


She (my daughter) is placing a bet on a line (double street) and incrementally increasing the bet to match spins until in profit.  Spin 1, bet i Unit, spin 2 bet 2 units etc.  On a win, if she is in profit she stops, if not she continues the count until in profit.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Clf7 on May 30, 12:05 PM 2020
Quote from: Nimo on May 30, 11:58 AM 2020
link:s://roulette-simulator.info/en/user/2ccc2826b445aebac6f6b3f8013e7931


She (my daughter) is placing a bet on a line (double street) and incrementally increasing the bet to match spins until in profit.  Spin 1, bet i Unit, spin 2 bet 2 units etc.  On a win, if she is in profit she stops, if not she continues the count until in profit.

Basically a simply martinagle nothing new buddy.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 12:30 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on May 30, 11:15 AM 2020if reading randomness really works - you can demonstrate it on MPR or on link:s://roulette-simulator.info/  over a decent sample size. If you will start blaming the software (which as I explained there is no reason to), it will only discredit your case.
Just signed up at roulette-simulator. I'll try this once again. I just need to get used to placing bets there and filling in my charts. I hope this does not have a timer on bets placed.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on May 30, 12:53 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 12:30 PM 2020
Just signed up at roulette-simulator. I'll try this once again. I just need to get used to placing bets there and filling in my charts. I hope this does not have a timer on bets placed.

Very good, yes there is no timer on roulette-simulator. Make sure to pick a "rated game", that way it can be saved, and later the rest of us would be able to see.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 01:29 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on May 30, 12:53 PM 2020Very good, yes there is no timer on roulette-simulator. Make sure to pick a "rated game", that way it can be saved, and later the rest of us would be able to see.
OK, so I got it running. I took two pictures. I won my 54. I'm playing RR basic strategy 3 net wins at real bets of 18 per bet on an EC, be it inside or outside. and -126 for any lost session. My virtual bets will be 1 unit on any outside EC bet.

Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 01:31 PM 2020
It acts just like an RNG at an online casino. This is going to be massively boring.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 01:31 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on May 30, 10:18 AM 2020
MPR is legit as far as I know - Steve created it and he can prove it to you, so this doesn’t make any sense.  A person who claimed precogniton worked also demonstrated it on there without any problems - he didn’t blame the software.

Winning some sessions and then losing due to guessing, is not winning. The same can be done with random bets. If “reading randomness” works, you should be able to demonstrate yourself winning over a decent sample size on there.

He may be paranoid or hiding some deficiency.  One or the other.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 01:35 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:50 AM 2020
No, 500 spins is BS. Anyway. I don't give a rat's ass if you learn Reading Randomness or not.  It's out there to run a head trip on the mathgZombies. Nobody would give away a working HG. Ha ha, I did. You are scratching your head and trying to trip me up. But I don't care. You should try to get someone else to validate the universe and to influence those that control it for you. I'm just sitting back and enjoying the view.

Wow.  You're apprehensive?  Strange reaction indeed.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 01:53 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 30, 01:35 PM 2020Wow.  You're apprehensive?  Strange reaction indeed.
I have done all the work on this that I care to do. A challenge with you is like taking a 4 year old to day care. Show me that you are worthy. Let's see your HG.  Anyone, does Moxy have an HG?
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 01:56 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 30, 01:31 PM 2020He may be paranoid or hiding some deficiency.  One or the other.
Your issues are almost completely clear. Do people actually wait for you to show them the way?
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on May 30, 01:58 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 01:29 PM 2020
OK, so I got it running. I took two pictures. I won my 54. I'm playing RR basic strategy 3 net wins at real bets of 18 per bet on an EC, be it inside or outside. and -126 for any lost session. My virtual bets will be 1 unit on any outside EC bet.

It would be good, if you could do only flat bets the entire time - that way it would be easy to see your actual win rate. This will show the actual accuracy of your bets.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 03:16 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on May 30, 01:58 PM 2020It would be good, if you could do only flat bets the entire time - that way it would be easy to see your actual win rate. This will show the actual accuracy of your bets.
I see that. I will switch to flat at 1 for each chip. This is so cool, you can see every bet, I mean anyone can see every bet. This is perfect, even better than my videos.  OK, starting now, only flat betting with 1's bet at all locations. The virtual bets will be on some EC bet at 1, I will have to bet all other bets inside. I could place 18 on Red but that might be confusing. 18 to 20 numbers per set on my inside pet groups and sets. All this is disclosed at the RR thread. Now I'm interested because this thing remembers every bet placed.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 04:58 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 03:16 PM 2020
I see that. I will switch to flat at 1 for each chip. This is so cool, you can see every bet, I mean anyone can see every bet. This is perfect, even better than my videos.  OK, starting now, only flat betting with 1's bet at all locations. The virtual bets will be on some EC bet at 1, I will have to bet all other bets inside. I could place 18 on Red but that might be confusing. 18 to 20 numbers per set on my inside pet groups and sets. All this is disclosed at the RR thread. Now I'm interested because this thing remembers every bet placed.

Challenge accepted.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 05:53 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 30, 04:58 PM 2020Challenge accepted.  Good luck.
It goes against everything that I personally have been doing for the past 10 years. I can't lock myself out from the attacking bet. It's not a progression. I have a grind away bet level and a attacking bet level. On that last bet I caught a good shot at a three way combo bet and I double doubled up on 4 or 5  numbers for a 40+ bet. It hit. I was in a steady slow grind down and decided to kiss off that self imposed rule to flat bet at 18 - 20. So I hit harder when it really looks good at around 40. Anyway you will learn exactly how I have been playing  for the past 10 years. I attack mini win streaks. I have never been able to explain it.  I did good this session with a few finales and a few combo bets. Nobody knows about my mini streak and my miniature global effect bet selections.  This will give all that away. I'm actually having fun again.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 06:26 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 05:53 PM 2020
It goes against everything that I personally have been doing for the past 10 years. I can't lock myself out from the attacking bet. It's not a progression. I have a grind away bet level and a attacking bet level. On that last bet I caught a good shot at a three way combo bet and I double doubled up on 4 or 5  numbers for a 40+ bet. It hit. I was in a steady slow grind down and decided to kiss off that self imposed rule to flat bet at 18 - 20. So I hit harder when it really looks good at around 40. Anyway you will learn exactly how I have been playing  for the past 10 years. I attack mini win streaks. I have never been able to explain it.  I did good this session with a few finales and a few combo bets. Nobody knows about my mini streak and my miniature global effect bet selections.  This will give all that away. I'm actually having fun again.

Great.  It's on then.  50/50 is my personal best though.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 06:41 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 30, 06:26 PM 2020Great.  It's on then.  50/50 is my personal best though.
I hopefully expect to produce an at least 2 to 1 win ratio in the final results of 100's of sessions in the final result. I expect to lose more bets than I win. I just won't have the same amount of money on every bet. But that is all that I have been claiming. I've talked for years about attacking the streaks.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 06:56 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 06:41 PM 2020
I hopefully expect to produce an at least 2 to 1 win ratio in the final results of 100's of sessions in the final result. I expect to lose more bets than I win. I just won't have the same amount of money on every bet. But that is all that I have been claiming. I've talked for years about attacking the streaks.

66.66666666/33.33333333 or the bold?

You keep contradicting yourself.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 07:25 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 30, 06:56 PM 2020You keep contradicting yourself.
If you had bothered reading the entire thread over there you would know what I mean. It's explained completely over there. Now that I'm back to normal I'm doing fine.  It's so cool that anyone can look at all my bets. They can stare at them as long as they want to. It's way better than a video.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 07:37 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 07:25 PM 2020
If you had bothered reading the entire thread over there you would know what I mean. It's explained completely over there. Now that I'm back to normal I'm doing fine.  It's so cool that anyone can look at all my bets. They cjan stare at them as long as they want to. It's way better than a video.

EC Hit rate 2 out of every 3 wagered.  No foresight.  No algorithm.  Just RR skill. 

And still "slumming" with the  merry band of thieves, Robin Hood?  (Just an expression.  Don't get mad)

You are really something else.  An anti Jeff Bezos, if you will.  Must've been a Buddhist in your past life or JC himself.

Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 07:57 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 30, 07:37 PM 2020EC Hit rate 2 out of every 3 wagered.  No foresight.  No algorithm.  Just RR skill. 

I've tried to explain it. Even here. I make a bet selection for every spin. I enter the spin number in my online gambling chart that automatically fills in the data for 12 sets of EC's. I look at the chart, consider what happened, and came true from my last guess, and I decide the set to bet on and the amount. I will lose a majority of those bets as expected. But the money I will make will be as if I had won twice as much as I had lost. When I start out at 3,000 I try to get to 3,054 in each session. That's three net wins at a base bet value of 18 to 20 on average. But now I'm trying to win every session. People that usually use a progression always bet big when they are in a losing streak. That does not make much sense to me. I bet big only when a strong opportunity is in continuation and there is a cold streak for first big bet tries losing. It's no different than trying to catch the hot repeater.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 08:07 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 07:57 PM 2020
I've tried to explain it. Even here. I make a bet selection for every spin. I enter the spin number in my online gambling chart that automatically fills in the data for 12 sets of EC's. I look at the chart, consider what happened, and came true from my last guess, and I decide the set to bet on and the amount. I will lose a majority of those bets as expected. But the money I will make will be as if I had won twice as much as I had lost. When I start out at 3,000 I try to get to 3,054 in each session. That's three net wins at a base bet value of 18 to 20 on average. But now I'm trying to win every session. People that usually use a progression always bet big when they are in a losing streak. That does not make much sense to me. I bet big only when a strong opportunity is in continuation and there is a cold streak for first big bet tries losing. It's no different than trying to catch the hot repeater.

Ok.  JC.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on May 30, 08:52 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 03:16 PM 2020
I see that. I will switch to flat at 1 for each chip. This is so cool, you can see every bet, I mean anyone can see every bet. This is perfect, even better than my videos.  OK, starting now, only flat betting with 1's bet at all locations. The virtual bets will be on some EC bet at 1, I will have to bet all other bets inside. I could place 18 on Red but that might be confusing. 18 to 20 numbers per set on my inside pet groups and sets. All this is disclosed at the RR thread. Now I'm interested because this thing remembers every bet placed.

Awesome, can you provide a link to your games? I will be watching
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 09:00 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on May 30, 08:52 PM 2020
Awesome, can you provide a link to your games? I will be watching

You do know this isn't instant eureka. Years of dedicatedly grinding away the edge and developing a knack.   Gizmo is nothing if not persistent. 
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:23 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 30, 09:00 PM 2020You do know this isn't instant eureka. Years of dedicatedly grinding away the edge and developing a knack.   Gizmo is nothing if not persistent. 
I'm like the last person on earth to discover this game platform. Who ever made it or is hosting it was & is a genius. I love the full telemetry. It is without a doubt mind boggling to me. OH BTW, we landed on the moon in 1969. I'll keep you updated.//

I have been fully motivated since I waked into a perfect occurring trend pattern. I obliterated the table. A giant crowd formed in astonished silence. It was like waiting for a golfer to putt. I went from $60 to 12 stacks at $100 for each of the 12 numbers hitting. Those were all $5 chips and they had 20 chips in each pile. I walked with over $3,000 in less than 30 minutes.  It was magic. I saw this perfect pattern and bet it. I've been working on this since 1993. Iv'e learned to be the nicest asshole that I can because of these forum.  I know what I have. It's been a fun years sharing it. So many twists and turns.  I just love this phase with this game online and 100% full demonstration of what is being bet on.  I feel so stupid. I never got the memo that this was a memory stick in real time. I'm clearly blown away.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:30 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on May 30, 08:52 PM 2020Awesome, can you provide a link to your games? I will be watching
It's here and I'm playing under the name Mark Brownell
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 30, 09:32 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:30 PM 2020
It's here and I'm playing under the name Mark Brownell

Why not JC or Nirvana.  More fitting.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:56 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 30, 09:32 PM 2020Why not JC or Nirvana.  More fitting.
fukhead was taken
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:57 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:30 PM 2020It's here and I'm playing under the name
... the link is gone

roulette-simulator.info/en
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Roulettebeater on May 31, 06:29 AM 2020
The answer is simple :

There is no such killer machine that can overcome a monster table that called roulette
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Herby on May 31, 10:28 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:30 PM 2020I'm playing under the name Mark Brownell
Hi Gizmotron,
I hope you play some more games on this simulator.  :wink:
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 31, 10:56 AM 2020
Quote from: Herby on May 31, 10:28 AM 2020Hi Gizmotron,
I hope you play some more games on this simulator.
Since I switched to answering all the questions and no longer just giving hints I have been much happier. But I am also sure that I only wanted to answer most of the question only once. Hence the single thread. But the best questions are at this forum. So yes, I will continue to play. I tell somewhere though that you should never play tired or buzzed. So I'm resting before I start again. This will be seen as common. I'm taking this simulation very seriously. I noticed that all the leaders use these monster sized bets in order to move up in the rankings. I'm sticking to the 54 at 3 net wins for time being. I don't care if I ever get way up there in the standings. 

My groupings are all spelled out in my practice software. I also use the Finales in my head.  You will notice that I sometimes try to see if the finales will pay off. You don't need a chart for them. You just see coincidences without anything but a past spins history.

Who put this game online and why?
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 31, 11:29 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 09:56 PM 2020
fukhead was taken

That was me.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on May 31, 12:29 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on May 31, 11:29 AM 2020That was me.  Sorry.
I claimed it first.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Moxy on May 31, 01:38 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 31, 12:29 PM 2020
I claimed it first.

You've honestly never came across a rigged wheel?   Not once?  A tiny bit?
A smidge?  A speck?

Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: cht on Jun 01, 12:47 AM 2020
If you place your bets based on 2LTD you will always end up a natural winner.
Works on real dealer and ball, prng or whatever.
Except cheat roulette. ;D

No prediction or exceptional accuracy or martingale required.

For those who hv access to the account take a look.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on Jun 01, 09:14 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Jun 01, 12:47 AM 2020If you place your bets based on 2LTD you will always end up a natural winner.
What is 2LTD ?
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: publa on Jun 01, 09:29 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Jun 01, 09:14 AM 2020What is 2LTD ?
I asked myself the same question :) My guess is "2 last tracked dozens" ;)
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: nichedelico on Jun 01, 09:43 AM 2020
Quote from: publa on Jun 01, 09:29 AM 2020
I asked myself the same question :) My guess is "2 last tracked dozens" ;)


2nd law of thermodynamic
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Herby on Jun 01, 09:55 AM 2020
Quote from: nichedelico on Jun 01, 09:43 AM 20202nd law of thermodynamic
I was two Limited (2 LTD) to find out by myself though it's cht's recently mentioned topic.   O0
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on Jun 01, 10:11 AM 2020
Quote from: cht on Jun 01, 12:47 AM 2020If you place your bets based on 2LTD you will always end up a natural winner.
There is no consistent bet selection that can beat Roulette. There is only good timing. In other words these tricks to find where the winning bet will occur only work at times.  I have found that the only way to get good at it is to find spots where the good timing swarms in packets that have characteristics. One thing is for sure. You can't get good at timing during chaos.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Kattila on Jun 01, 10:45 AM 2020
I am 99.9%  it is second(2) LasT Decision. Still remain the 0,01 %.   :P
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: Richard Meisel on Jun 01, 03:58 PM 2020
Quote from: bluediamond2013 on May 29, 02:41 PM 2020
Hey guys

We're all here to find a strategy to make some money... so dont we just all come together and make a strategy that we can all make money with?

Everyone please share what strategy they are using now.

Thanks
Scott
Hi Blue, how about this?

Low Column & Red    = 24#
Mid Column & Red    = 26#
High Column & Red    = 22#
Low Column & Black    = 24#
Mid Column & Black    = 22#
High Column & Black   = 26#
Low Column & Even    = 24#
Mid Column & Even    = 24#
High Column & Even    = 24#
Low Column & Odd    = 24#
Mid Column & Odd    = 24#
High Column & Odd    = 24#
Low Column& High    = 24#
Mid Column & High    = 24#
High Column & High = 24#
Low Column & Low    = 24#
Mid Column & Low    = 24#
High Column & Low    = 24#
1st Dozen & Red       = 24#
2nd Dozen & Red    = 24#
3rd Dozen & Red       = 24#
1st Dozen & Black    = 24#
2nd Dozen & Black   = 24#
3rd Dozen & Black    = 24#
1st Dozen & Even    = 24#
2nd Dozen & Even    = 24#
3rd Dozen & Even    = 24#
1st Dozen & Odd       = 24#
2nd Dozen & Odd    = 24#
3rd Dozen & Odd    = 24#
1st Dozen & High    = 30#
2nd Dozen & High    = 24#
3rd Dozen & High    = 18#
1st Dozen & Low       = 18#
2nd Dozen & Low    = 24#
3rd Dozen & Low    = 30#

Sorry about writing this out in longhand.  Notice the big difference in the 1st Dozen & High and in the 3rd Dozen & Low
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on Jun 01, 05:04 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on May 30, 03:16 PM 2020
I see that. I will switch to flat at 1 for each chip. This is so cool, you can see every bet, I mean anyone can see every bet. This is perfect, even better than my videos.  OK, starting now, only flat betting with 1's bet at all locations. The virtual bets will be on some EC bet at 1, I will have to bet all other bets inside. I could place 18 on Red but that might be confusing. 18 to 20 numbers per set on my inside pet groups and sets. All this is disclosed at the RR thread. Now I'm interested because this thing remembers every bet placed.

Gizmontron - I saw your latest game - and you are using progression, when you said you wouldn't be and that you would be flat betting.

You went from betting 1 unit, to betting 4 at the end. You were in a pretty big hole, and once you made up your losses, and was slightly up, you quit the session.

Here is the screenshot: link:s://prnt.sc/sry1ma - you can see the graph at the bottom
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: winforus on Jun 01, 05:16 PM 2020
I am also going to mention that you already have 1 reset - meaning that you cleared all of your history from your account.

By "reading randomness", I thought that you could actually increase the accuracy of your bets. So far, you have not shown this as you are using progression. I will continue to watch and observe - but you should really stick to what you said you would do and that's not using progression and do only flat bets.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on Jun 01, 07:43 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on Jun 01, 05:04 PM 2020Gizmontron - I saw your latest game - and you are using progression, when you said you wouldn't be and that you would be flat betting.

You went from betting 1 unit, to betting 4 at the end. You were in a pretty big hole, and once you made up your losses, and was slightly up, you quit the session.

I caught a few numbers in the finales. It was like 12 numbers that I used a double down on them. I recognized it as a trend and bet in order to take advantage of it. I mentioned to everyone that I was dropping the flat betting scheme and going with the on the attack at times method that I always use in real life. I was in a slow grind downward where I was using double sized bets. In fact it was my worst session so far. But my goal is to show how and when I use everything to win. And that is just what I'm doing.

As far as the reset goes I must have logged into this many years ago and registered and failed. I had to reset my password just to get in.  So this is how it goes. You can complain all that you want. I'm going to win every session. I'm going to do it just like I would in a real casino. Reading Randomness is a monotonous rule based demonstration of taking just a few characteristics and focusing on using them in a fixed MM. 

When I discovered that this online sim stores actual telemetry and lets everyone see it I decided to show off how I really play. If that breaks a rule of yours then I'm going to get out the violins and play "my heart bled for you."

Bitch all you want to mathZombie.  Being that you are such a great judge of character I hope you pass all this up.
Title: Re: Why don't we just all help each other to create a killer strategy and make money
Post by: gizmotron2 on Jun 01, 07:55 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on Jun 01, 05:16 PM 2020By "reading randomness", I thought that you could actually increase the accuracy of your bets. So far, you have not shown this as you are using progression. I will continue to watch and observe - but you should really stick to what you said you would do and that's not using progression and do only flat bets.
I decide what's best for Reading Randomness and what I show. I go from 1 value to 2 values and stick to it unless I see a great chance forming and then I double that. When I attack I go for the kill. And it is about bet selection and timing. None of that is in the Reading Randomness thread.  It's one thing to teach others the basics. It's another to teach attacking the opportunities. This is not blind progression betting. It's taking advantage of the good part of what a progression can give you if you don't play it into a losing streak.

I fully plan on using everything that I have taken from gambling and defying the laws of large numbers. You can't shut me down because I broke a rule of yours. You are now seeing the real me after all these years and that is because a few days ago I discovered that this sim allows me to demonstrate every bet selection.  So Reading Randomness basic in the original thread is one thing and this is advanced play. It's up to you why I do what I do. I have not left you in the dark on this. You can play along by entering the spins in my provided playing software. You will then see where I'm getting some of my selections. The playing chart and my ability to recognize finales from the spin telemetry at the sim is where I get my selections from.  I included that chart in the software section. It's the one that looks like the practice software with the primes, zeros/sixes, and the Specials. Do that and you really will be able to follow it.