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Title: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 08:26 AM 2020
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=kcukwsD3iWs
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Elite on Jun 05, 08:44 AM 2020
GAMBLING AND NUMBER 1 PERSON
If you are born on 1st, 10th, 19th or 28th of the month you are a business gambler. You are good at speculating and choosing companies or businesses that will do well. You could make a fortune that way. You are very good at picking the right stock at the right time. As long as you invest with caution, you will do well. You should avoid gambling on horses, dogs, cars or other racing contests. Number 1 person hates losing.

GAMBLING AND NUMBER 2 PERSON
If you are born on 2nd, 11th, 20th or 29th it is best for you to bet on a sure winner than a longshot. You are very good at competitions that have to do with certain sports like boat racing, car racing, boxing matches. You will do well with simple games like bingo, lotto and contests that challenge your mind. Trust your intuitive feelings and you will win.

GAMBLING AND NUMBER 3 PERSON
If you are born on 3rd, 12th, 21th or 30th of the month you do well on upscale contests like yacht and horse racing, golf and tennis. You take these games seriously, so try to avoid getting angry if you lose or don’t gamble at all. Since you don’t like to look like a loser in front of others choose your bets wisely.

GAMBLING AND NUMBER 4 PERSON
If you are born on 4th, 13th, 22th or 31th of the month you are usually not lucky at gambling in any form. If you still want to gamble bet on the outsiders or longshots. You have a better chance of winning that way. Slot machines and other mechanical gambling devices are your best choice. A career in gambling would not work out for you.

GAMBLING AND NUMBER 5 PERSON
If you are born on 5th, 14th, 23th or 32th of the month you are number 5, which is the luckiest numerology gambling number. You will do great at cards, roulette, sports gambling and all types of racing. Because you win a lot you can become addicted to gambling. You like taking chances but you need to avoid excess.

GAMBLING AND NUMBER 6 PERSON
If you are born on 6th, 15th, 24th of the month you are number 6. You are considered lucky also. You will be the most successful betting on horse and dog races. You tend to win when you play games of chance. However, if you start losing money, you should stop immediately.

GAMBLING AND NUMBER 7 PERSON
If you are born on 7th, 16th, 25th of the month you are number 7. The 7 person has good intuition when it comes to gambling. They have better luck at using their inner guidance instead of guessing. Contests, where you have to use your mind like card games, will bring more money to the 7 person. It is best to bet on a sure thing rather than on the long shot.
GAMBLING AND NUMBER 8 PERSON
If you are born on 8th, 17th, 26th of the month you are number 8. Number 8 person should avoid gambling altogether. Hard work usually pays off rather than gambling for the 8 person. If you are going to gamble, make sure the odds are not too high and choose contact sports and horse racing. Your priority should be to save money and gamble only occasionally.
GAMBLING AND NUMBER 9 PERSON
If you are born on 9th, 18th, 27th of the month you are number 9. The 9 person will do well betting on many different types of sports and games. For example martial arts, soccer, fights, cards and gambling games like roulette and slot machines. Even if you lose sometimes, you will make it up by winning again.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Elite on Jun 05, 08:44 AM 2020
Steve when you born?
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 09:05 AM 2020
I'm 18th September: 9/18: 999 for the 666 devil's wheel  :twisted:
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: gizmotron2 on Jun 05, 09:57 AM 2020
Steve, excellent job on the videos, even the skin job one. Ha ha.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Moxy on Jun 05, 01:14 PM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Jun 05, 08:26 AM 2020
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=kcukwsD3iWs

The voice finally to the name.  Pretty cool.  I resent the lack of fat men in a wife beater chugging beer though.  That's more my jam.... 




















I kid.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ati on Jun 05, 02:44 PM 2020
Nice video!  :thumbsup: I'll have to watch it again  :lol:
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 09:32 PM 2020
Well so far i haven't been contacted by the "All Men Are Assholes Foundation".

I'll try and do a video every week or so. It depends on time.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ignatus on Jun 05, 10:41 PM 2020
Absolute BS imho, that "moneymanagement and progressions doesn't matter"....only because YOU have a FLATBET system that can win Endlessly doent meant everybody have... Also that "winrate would be useless" is ALSO bullshit....Roulette (for those who doesnt have a FLATBET HG that can win endlessly) Winrate, progression and moneymanagement IS ALL THAT MATTERS. End-of-story.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 10:48 PM 2020
Ok ignatus.

You know better than every mathematician, statistician and gaming professional, and myself, who all say the same thing.

You with your winning strategies have proved us all wrong.

Right?

You know, when your talk doesnt match what your systems do, you should probably think you're missing something.

Or is reality wrong?

You are stuck in the classic cycle i explained.

You are actually deluded.

I'm sorry ignatus. I cant in good conscience sugarcoat it.

Money management is useless. Progression is just as i explained. And i even clearly explained why win rate is nonsense.

The facts are teabagging you.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 11:07 PM 2020
Ignatus probably one day you'll understand what I've been saying. Then you'll look back and feel quite stupid for not seeing it earlier.

What I've said is not my opinion. It is reality. And casinos make billions because the human mind is easily fooled.

Like i explained, I've been where you are. I know exactly how you're thinking.

Unfortunately you're so deep in the illusion you cant see yet. I dont think i could be more blunt. You just aren't understanding what I've said. So like i did, and like almost every player needs to, you'll have to learn the hard way.

I can't judge you for that. Again I've been there before.

But you know, i didnt have the benefit of free advice from someone with a bit of experience.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 11:16 PM 2020
Maybe this will help you ignatus:

Use rx to test your best system, with the highest win rate.

Use whatever progression or money management you want.

Then test millions of spins with rx.

Then check the amount bet, and the amount lost. The ratio will give you -2.7%. There will be some variance of course. The more spins you test, the closer to -2 7% you'll get.

Here's what it tells you........

Your elaborate progressions, bet selections and money management methods did NOTHING. Your system's win rate meant nothing. NOTHING.

Your results of wins vs loses are exactly the same as random bets.

There you go ignatus. I cant be clearer. So do the testing.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ignatus on Jun 06, 02:01 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Jun 05, 11:16 PM 2020Then test millions of spins with rx.

Then check the amount bet, and the amount lost. The ratio will give you -2.7%

Why you serious, now who wins Flatbet for millions of spins? ey....ofc, i can win "Flatbet" at best for a couple of thousand spins, perhaps, not more...
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 06, 02:41 AM 2020
Even random flat bets sometimes win on a few thousand spins. The system you use have logic, but the same accuracy as random. That means your bet selection is delusion.

You're not understanding my point.

I'm saying do the test, because you'll see all your bet selections, money management and progressions are exactly like i said: just random bets worth different size bets.

You didnt understand so consider this:

Test 1: Your best system over 1 million spins.

Test 2: Random bets over 1 million spins.

Check the edge for both, and they'll be -2.7% besides some variance. It proves what im saying. You said my claims were rubbish, right? So do the test and see.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ignatus on Jun 06, 04:22 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Jun 06, 02:41 AM 2020So do the test and see.

Here's a typical Flatbet-curve then....that it could keep a POSTIVE TREND For about 20 000 spins is VERY impressive. That you think you have a "positive trend" for 1 million spins? That is Not realistic... .__.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 06, 04:50 AM 2020
Why's it impressive?

Does it do this every time, or just sometimes?

The bankroll barely moves off 500 for a long time, and because of luck.

You really haven't understood anything I've said. Do you actually want to know the truth?

I know some people won't understand with some parts of my videos and websites, but you've been doing this a long time ignatus and the truth is constantly in your face.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ignatus on Jun 06, 05:03 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Jun 06, 04:50 AM 2020
Why's it impressive?

Imagine you havent had you "holy grail" then, a Positive trend Flat for 20 000 spins IS impressive. I have done millions of trials, and MOST betselections cant keep a "postive trend" Flatbet even for a couple of hundred spins... :/

TEST2
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 06, 05:12 AM 2020
Could you show 100k spins please?

What you're seeing is a segment of "better than average" spins at the start.

And the bankroll "lasts" so long because of the very low stakes.

That's all.

See my video woth 100k spins, see what i explain about the 10k parts.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: RayManZ on Jun 06, 05:39 AM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 06, 05:03 AM 2020
Imagine you havent had you "holy grail" then, a Positive trend Flat for 20 000 spins IS impressive. I have done millions of trials, and MOST betselections cant keep a "postive trend" Flatbet even for a couple of hundred spins... :/

TEST2

But what if you start at spin 12000. Thats why 1 test of 10000 is not going to help you. What if you walk in at the wrong time. That could and would happen. Maybe not for you but for someone else.

Maybe you dont play 1mil spins. But all the people together using your system will. Some will be lucky and start at the right time. Some wel be unlucky and hit a run from hell. On AVG it will be 2.7% ;)

That is what Steves tries to tell you.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: winforus on Jun 06, 05:43 AM 2020
Ignatus, I can’t understand how can you be a programmer and not understand such basic logic?

Besides being so deluded, you very much lack open-mindeness and are extemely stubborn.

Why don’t you test and contemplate what Steve has been teaching in the videos? Is there a possibility that a guy who has studied Roulette for over 20 years and who is a winner, is right?

Everyday you have been posting a new losing system, you even claimed you found a HG - but what do you have to show for it? You haven’t won a penny - and asking for donations.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ignatus on Jun 06, 05:52 AM 2020
Quote from: winforus on Jun 06, 05:43 AM 2020not understand such basic logic?

WELL I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW A BETSELECTION COULD PROFIT FLATBET OVER 1 MILLION SPINS, EVEN WIN FLATBET 100 000 SPINS WOULD BE HILARIOUS....eh...
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Austria on Jun 06, 06:49 AM 2020
Nevertheless, as a beginner, I would like to say the following in defense of Ignatus:
You can make profit with the simplest methods if you just break even if you win / lose.
The RouletteMaster and K6 are proof of a nice win on the 5c table.
There is no need for sector triggers ect. to run after something that goes bankrupt after 10000000 ..... spins.
HOTZONE 17 and Last18 are still fun with 5c.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: winforus on Jun 06, 09:47 AM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 06, 05:52 AM 2020
WELL I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW A BETSELECTION COULD PROFIT FLATBET OVER 1 MILLION SPINS, EVEN WIN FLATBET 100 000 SPINS WOULD BE HILARIOUS....eh...

If it can't profit with flat bet over 100k spins - then you know it's a losing system. And you are right - it can't profit, due to the odds and payouts, which is how casino makes billions.

Which is why, there is no point in using progression - as all you are doing is taking a loan with a high interest rate and once the variance evens out - you will be losing much more than with flat bet.

What conclusion can you make? If your system does not improve the accuracy of predictions (thus changing the odds in your favor), then it's a losing system. Some players may win with it short term, but more players with lose with it, which is how casino makes money.

This is what Steve, and experienced players have been telling you for a long time.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ignatus on Jun 06, 10:04 AM 2020
Quote from: winforus on Jun 06, 09:47 AM 2020If it can't profit with flat bet over 100k spins - then you know it's a losing system

Well that is also absolute BS. A system that will profit flatbet for a Couple of thousand spins is Enough to be Profitable. Show me a Flatbet system that shows profit after 100 000 spins, if you please..ey?
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: winforus on Jun 06, 10:23 AM 2020
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 06, 10:04 AM 2020
Well that is also absolute BS. A system that will profit flatbet for a Couple of thousand spins is Enough to be Profitable.

What good is it for system to be profitable for just 2000 spins?  For 5 people it will be profitable and for 8 people it won't be profitable - meaning that majority of players using that system will lose.

Due to luck, some players will win, but more players will lose - meaning it's a losing system and it needs luck to win.

Quote from: ignatus on Jun 06, 10:04 AM 2020
Show me a Flatbet system that shows profit after 100 000 spins, if you please..ey?

It doesn't exist and never will - because all systems that do not increase the accuracy of predictions, are LOSING.

This means that all "systems" are losers - and there is no point for you to waste anymore time developing more losing systems.

You are better off using your time and effort into developing an approach that would increase the accuracy of predictions.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: gizmotron2 on Jun 06, 10:40 AM 2020
Quote from: winforus on Jun 06, 10:23 AM 2020It doesn't exist and never will - because all systems that do not increase the accuracy of predictions, are LOSING.
Now I know what is in your head zombie.

I don't need to "increase the accuracy of predictions." I just need to wait for my accuracy in identifying coincidences that are working in my favor.  50 sessions without a lost session. I'm disintegrating the notion of 4.66 wins at 3 for each lost session at 7. You can check each spin, each bet placed, and every result.  Proof can't get any better than this.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Joe on Jun 06, 11:53 AM 2020
Ignatus' idea of a great system seems to be : 'It sucks less'.  ;D

What's really bizarre is that he seems to agree with the 'mathboys' that no system wins in the long-term, but he codes it anyway. I suppose there is a kind of twisted logic to it in that if he knows no system wins long-term, then there isn't any point in running the program for a million spins. The solution is to cherry-pick a nice winning  streak, post it here, and declare triumphantly that it wins in the short term - and if that's not good enough for you, you're an idiot.  :xd:
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ignatus on Jun 06, 12:28 PM 2020
Quote from: Joe on Jun 06, 11:53 AM 2020declare triumphantly that it wins in the short term

Well, who is the "idiot" first you can show me a system that profits over 100 000 spins FLATBET (Goodluck with that!) Also, about my systems, ANY SYSTEM that i have created so far, that has a consistent "winrate" over 50% THAT IS a PROFITABLE system (with the right money-management) that is.... I create/test systems for fun...and i will continue to do so. UNTIL i have found what i am looking for, so far, i have not. found what i am looking for OK
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: winforus on Jun 06, 01:18 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Jun 06, 10:40 AM 2020
Now I know what is in your head zombie.

I don't need to "increase the accuracy of predictions." I just need to wait for my accuracy in identifying coincidences that are working in my favor.  50 sessions without a lost session. I'm disintegrating the notion of 4.66 wins at 3 for each lost session at 7. You can check each spin, each bet placed, and every result.  Proof can't get any better than this.

Before calling someone a "zombie", check your own head.

You are not using a typical "system" - and anyway that you put it, for you to win in the long run, you would have to increase the accuracy of your bet selections. My post here was addressing typical "system players", which based on my observation, you don't belong to. So before making judgements and going defense mode - actually understand what is talked about.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: winforus on Jun 06, 01:42 PM 2020
Quote from: Joe on Jun 06, 11:53 AM 2020
Ignatus' idea of a great system seems to be : 'It sucks less'.  ;D

What's really bizarre is that he seems to agree with the 'mathboys' that no system wins in the long-term, but he codes it anyway. I suppose there is a kind of twisted logic to it in that if he knows no system wins long-term, then there isn't any point in running the program for a million spins. The solution is to cherry-pick a nice winning  streak, post it here, and declare triumphantly that it wins in the short term - and if that's not good enough for you, you're an idiot.  :xd:

Couldn't have said it any better.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ignatus on Jun 06, 02:06 PM 2020
Before you talk **** you can pls show your systems profitable over 100 000 spins..

Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: ignatus on Jun 06, 02:32 PM 2020
Test2.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 06, 07:58 PM 2020
Ignatus, those charts look like a losing system with long waves of good and bad luck. And you finished on good luck.

A good system is not one that "survives" lots of spins. If that's what you want, use conservative progression. But that won't pay bills for long.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: Steve on Jun 06, 09:45 PM 2020
Also the date on the images appears to be in 2019. So you probably cherry picked your results.

Again any system can survive a lot of spins, once in a while.
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: MumboJumbo on Jun 07, 03:16 AM 2020
Ok, here is seven lucky numbers for today:
18
33
2
14
11
35
23

Don't be fooled by randomness, good luck!
Title: Re: How To Win at Roulette | AVOID THESE MISTAKES - Part 3
Post by: precogmiles on Jun 10, 01:28 PM 2020
Good video, it clearly went over some peoples heads.