Hello Everyone,
Today is a very special day for you as this is a very special system!
I will begin with the simple version then afterwards when I explain the extras you will then be able to grasp the concept much more easily.
First of all, the tracking and ordering of the roulette results.
Start by splitting red and black numbers into separate strings, black numbers in one string and reds in another, as the results come just write the numbers into strings according to the colour.
Example
Red Number String 12, 3, 21, 27, 1, 25, 16
Black Number String 11, 31, 33, 8, 10, 17, 4
These are strings of red and black numbers.
The strings will be made up of unique numbers and eventually hit a repeating number that is already within the string.
Example
Red Number String 12, 18, 1, 32, 19, 23, 34, 18
Number (18) was the repeating number for this red string.
When a repeating number hits on a string it is time to end that string and start a new one for those colour numbers.
This way of tracking the numbers into strings until the repeating number hits will always be the same and never change.
The logic behind this is based on the law of the thirds, we would expect to only see a maximum average of around 12 unique numbers then get a repeating number that is already in the string.
The truth is the lengths of the strings are generally half this size and after thousands and thousands of fully recorded strings we found that total string lengths of 5 numbers hits the most from all recorded strings, this is only 4 unique numbers then the repeating number for a total recorded string length of 5 numbers.
We are tracking numbers into separate strings depending on which group they belong to either reds or blacks and then recording the strings lengths.
Example
Red Number String 7, 34, 14, 12, 18, 7 String Length --> 6
Length = Total numbers in the recorded string.
Now... Lets take this a step further with positions.
Positions are a position from which the repeated number came from within the completed string.
Example
Red Number String 7, 34, 14, 12, 18, 7 String Length --> 6 - 1 <-- Position
Length 6 and Position 1
This means the string was six numbers long and the repeating number was the first number/position that came in the string.
String lengths can range from 2 to 19
Example
12, 12 (2-1)
This is the shortest possible string length of two and repeated from position one.
23, 21, 18, 12, 14, 27, 19, 1, 25, 32, 3, 5, 7, 9, 16, 30, 36, 34, 18 (19-3)
This is the longest possible string length of nineteen and repeated from position three.
Below are examples of full recorded strings
R) 7 1 36 21 30 32 12 36 ( 8-3)
B) 26 33 2 24 35 35 (6-5)
R) 21 36 36 (3-2)
B) 26 8 31 33 35 15 15 (7-6)
R) 7 30 19 1 34 34 (6-5)
B) 2 6 29 15 17 17 (6-5)
R) 1 7 27 30 30 (5-4)
R) 7 18 3 21 18 (5-2)
R) 19 12 25 34 5 36 19 (7-1)
B) 11 4 10 31 13 31 (6-4)
R) 16 19 14 36 1 12 5 16 (8-1)
B) 20 13 33 31 35 24 4 20 (8-1)
B) 29 2 13 29 (4-1)
B) 31 31 (2-1)
R) 25 21 9 23 16 18 21 (7-2)
R) 27 16 14 18 25 1 3 36 14 (9-3)
The strings are recorded separate and then logged with string results as above.
Once all this information is available we can observe what type of lengths and positions are likely to come and at what time!
From thousands of fully recorded strings something amazing revealed itself....
The data was put into charts and showed the positions were key to locating the single numbers!
I have attached two pie charts, please open and look at the positions chart.
Just in case there is a problem with these pic charts to load on forum I will also type the data.
From all recorded strings the positions results were as follows,
Position 1 Hit 28.2 %
Position 2 Hit 22.6 %
Position 3 Hit 17.4 %
Position 4 Hit 11.9 %
Position 5 Hit 8.1 %
Position 6 Hit 5.5 %
Position 7 Hit 3.0 %
Position 8 Hit 1.6 %
Position 9 Hit 1.0 %
Positions 10+ Hit 1.0 %
This shows the percentage hit for each position over all recorded strings.
Position 1 Hit 28.2% /This means that 28.2% of all strings recorded had a repeating number from the first number within the string.
Position 2 Hit 22.6% /This means that 22.6% of all strings recorded had a repeating number from the second number within the string.
Position 3 Hit 17.4% /This means that 17.4% of all strings recorded had a repeating number from the third number within the string.
Positions 1 and 2 combined have over 50% chance of being the repeating numbers for any string!
Positions 1, 2, and 3 combined have over 67% of repeating for string.
Positions are literally positions, these are not actual numbers, but the positions in which future spun numbers will fall into naturally, so if a string has ended and you start a new string the first number to come is the number that fall into the first position which is named position 1.
The second number within any string is position 2 and the third number is position 3 etc..
The numbers could be any numbers and the only numbers we need to know are the numbers which fall into the positions and in what order!
The most amazing part is knowing that the first two positions in every string hit 50% which is only two single numbers.
This is how to pinpoint only two single numbers with the positions tracking!
Now lets pretend we have tracked and located our two single numbers, what next?
The next part is entry and exit points for betting the two numbers.
String lengths and positions can help determine strong entry and exit points for our betting, we can't enter into a bet without knowing the numbers to bet on so first we have to wait for the first two numbers in the string then once we have them we can enter into the bet or start tracking for a strong trigger or triggers.
It would be logical to wait for say ten unique numbers then bet the positions but in all results these earlier positions hit more on the shorter strings.
It would be logical to bet all ten unique numbers after the 10 unique numbers but this can be costly when having to make too many bets on a bad run.
It would be logical to bet straight away, but then you can have a situation where the string runs all the way up to eleven or twelve in length and you have to make too many bets also the possibility of a higher position repeating.
It would be logical to bet mid range after four or five unique numbers and that is exactly what we do, waiting for five unique numbers helps to hit the sweet spot and settle you in consistent wins on the early positions!
The best way to attack the sweet spot is by keeping entry and exit times short to say only making four to eight bets per trigger.
Flat betting!
The consistency is so good it is possible to safely use a mild base unit progression.
These two numbers will then have 50% chance of being the repeaters for that particular string.
If we bet on three single numbers instead this gives 67% chance of one of them being the repeat.
So tracking 2 or 3 numbers from the beginning of each string then waiting for a certain amount of unique numbers in that hot string before betting those 2 - 3 numbers for 4 - 8 bets.
That's it, simple**
This is for red and black numbers only!
TIME TO INTRODUCE THE SOFTWARE
RHYTHMATRIX RS
I have had software made to track and order Red/Black/Odd/Even/Hi/Low all at the same time and automatically with each set of eighteen numbers being separate for tracking, ordering and triggers!
The software will track and order each set of eighteen numbers all separate and produce triggers for each set separately too, meaning if red string triggers it will give 2 - 3 numbers to bet but also if black and say low number sets trigger the software will give multiple sets of numbers to bet on as they're all done separately.
For each set I have had V/L Strings option for software to wait multiple strings to not hit positions selected and to also wait (x) amount of unique numbers in a hot string before betting the original selected positions plus another setting for total bets to be made on hot positions.
There is also an option to change hot numbers to change colour from green or yellow to pinpoint the hot numbers even more and another trigger option will be added soon for V/L Flashers.
Basically once the software has numbers to bet it will give flashing numbers to bet on, the new option of V/L Flashers I mentioned will be waiting for (x) amounts of flashing sets to lose before telling the player which numbers to bet on, this will make bets even stronger than they are now.
The results have been amazing as expected and trigger options are endless, this is an ongoing project to make this software literally pinpoint 2-3 numbers in 2-3 spins and hit consistently.
I have well over 20 people from around the world involved in this project and welcome new people to help pay for the future upgrades!
Every person involved is entitled to all new upgrades of the software for free, making this an evolving project with many talented players.
If you would like to be apart of this project or simply buy the software here are the links.
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I offer the full written version of system and software before purchase to anyone interested.
Thank you for taking time to read my post, I hope you enjoyed and can take this information either create your own system or share with others!
Cheers
Please search for RHYTHMATRIX RS
The current price is only £150 until 1st September 2020
Will include all future upgrades and also request can be made for changing or adding new options in the trigger menu.
Get involved!
This works!!!! That's all I can say
Quote from: sturrock on Aug 04, 03:12 PM 2020
This works!!!! That's all I can say
It wont work. If you've had short-term success, that's all it is.
There are no such correlations to future spins.
But you're free to take the £150 special until 1st September 2020.
Hello Steve,
Thank you for your comment.
The software is not perfect but has definitely shown good potential for big wins on small amount of numbers being bet.
With many more upgrades to come it will be even more accurate.
Anyone is welcome to get involved.
Search for RHYTHMATRIX RS
Thanks
I'm all for giving anyone a chance, but there is so far nothing to indicate your system is better than random bets.
Understand my position. In the interests of transparency, anyone can sell systems. Almost all are scams. People get scammed, complain to me and here, threaten me because of bad feedback here, and expect it wont reflect on them in some way, and so on.
If you're going to sell here, it needs to be in the open, not spamming, and expect to cop some flak.
Again there's nothing to indicate your bet selection process is better than random bets. Can you show otherwise? I mean lots of data to show its better than random bets.
The logic is all based on the early positions of the strings being more likely to repeat.
The data and research so far has been on string results and as the project evolves the ultimate settings be locked in and the deep analysis of the hit ratio will take place.
The consistency of the sets of numbers hitting is really amazing and anyone who uses the software will be blown away with accuracy, seriously!
Please check my YouTube channel for my latest videos
Best Roulette Software
Quote from: RHYTHMATRIX RS on Aug 04, 11:48 PM 2020The logic is all based on the early positions of the strings being more likely to repeat.
So it's just an elaborate repeaters system. It won't work.
More precisely, it could only work on real wheels, with an unrealistic strict set of parameters. Like if there was a strong and consistent dealer signature, with nearly no ball scatter. But looking at your videos, I dont see any reference to real wheels. Looks like it was made with RNG in mind.
Quote from: RHYTHMATRIX RS on Aug 04, 11:48 PM 2020The logic is all based on the early positions of the strings being more likely to repeat.
It's part of the magical thinking period in a gambler's education. Elaborate groups are no more likely to hit than random selected groupings. Everything equates to 1 / 37. You will one day learn that timing and phases of wave formations are more likely to have duration that is sometimes exploitable but not always. It all comes down to situational awareness. And even then there will be perfect sequences of death that will kill your otherwise perfect looking conditions. That to must have a work around in order to survive the session. It's a game of chance. To beat it you must get into sequence with what is working at the moment. Magical groupings never work all the time. They are just consistent bet selection options.
But for some reason a person's Rube Goldberg pet groupings dazzle newbie players that think they work. Here is the problem. You will get a few players that have several sessions where the luck lined up for them and they become your testimonial players. It all comes down to a swarm of good luck. We see this all the time when a new gambler comes across the Martingale progression. There, for a while, the player thinks that they have changed their lives. They think they are going to be rich. Some even quit their jobs. It's all part and parcel of growing up as a gambler. Your system can't work because it is rule based.
So let's hear one simple clear rule in the software where it makes decisions on gathering information supporting good timing? Show us one thing that supports conditional awareness matched to wins and losses streaks.
You can't beat 1 / 37 with 35 to 1 with magical pet groups of numbers and no artificial intelligence written into the software.
As the saying goes "Don't knock it till you've tried it"
Quote from: sturrock on Aug 05, 09:30 AM 2020"Don't knock it till you've tried it"
They also say "Smoke and Mirrors."
Never mind.
How about something axiomatic instead?
It's a right of passage to purchase something that turns out to be interesting yet not really living up to its claims.
It's kind of like politicians running for office. They make all kinds of promises and then when they get into power they turn into something entirely different. Democrats typically run to the center and then govern left. Only this time the Democrats have swerved sharply to the left. You can count on the worst depression this country has ever faced if they get all the power. Your future will be decided for you. It's much worse than if you get ripped off by a snake-oil salesman selling magical beans.
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Aug 05, 04:30 AM 2020Your system can't work because it is rule based.
Bollocks. If it's not rule based then it's not a system, so it must be guessing. Are there no rules for guessing? If not, it's no different than betting randomly, which can't have any merit at all and so won't give you an edge. Winning consistently without using any rules is a contradiction. Unless it's precognition, and let's not go there again. :yawn:
Quote from: Joe on Aug 05, 10:55 AM 2020Unless it's precognition,
Unless it's Reading Randomness that accounts for effectiveness.
It's specifically why I asked does it do that with artificial intelligence, seeing how it's an app.
Still no answer on that BTW.
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Aug 05, 11:43 AM 2020Unless it's Reading Randomness that accounts for effectiveness.
That's the point I was making. If your 'reading randomness' works at all it must have rules, otherwise it's just random guessing which doesn't have any merit. :thumbsup:
@ RHYTHMATRIX RS, you should have a message in your inbox.
Quote from: Joe on Aug 05, 12:06 PM 2020That's the point I was making. If your 'reading randomness' works at all it must have rules, otherwise it's just random guessing which doesn't have any merit.
yes, you are right. The rule is to watch the effectiveness wave graph like a sticks and carrots chart for stocks. This must be done in your mind if in a B&M casino. But it's a rule.
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Aug 05, 12:56 PM 2020yes, you are right. The rule is to watch the effectiveness wave graph like a sticks and carrots chart for stocks.
Well then, "Your system can't work because it's rule based" (your words). ???
So rules are ok for your method but not anybody else's?
And regarding AI, there's nothing magic about it. It's just curve-fitting and statistical analysis.
Quote from: Joe on Aug 05, 02:12 PM 2020Well then, "Your system can't work because it's rule based" (your words).
So rules are ok for your method but not anybody else's?
And regarding AI, there's nothing magic about it. It's just curve-fitting and statistical analysis.
I expected that. You are rule based.
So are you. And rules are better. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Joe on Aug 05, 02:43 PM 2020
So are you. And rules are better. :thumbsup:
The quote is rule based mechanical systems don't work.
I'm rule based in that I always set out to win at real casinos. Most people play to lose.
Quote from: sturrock on Aug 05, 09:30 AM 2020
As the saying goes "Don't knock it till you've tried it"
Repeating strings? Tried that around 15 years ago. It doesn't work. I tested with automated software that constantly checked correlation between previous and future spins. The idea was if past spins mattered at all, the software would eventually find correlations.
And there were some correlations, but only in specific conditions. And those conditions also depended on other conditions. Ultimately there are ways to beat roulette, but repeating strings on any rng or wheel with the same strategy, isn't one.
Quote from: Steve on Aug 05, 07:30 PM 2020
Repeating strings? Tried that around 15 years ago. It doesn't work. I tested with automated software that constantly checked correlation between previous and future spins. The idea was if past spins mattered at all, the software would eventually find correlations.
And there were some correlations, but only in specific conditions. And those conditions also depended on other conditions. Ultimately there are ways to beat roulette, but repeating strings on any rng or wheel with the same strategy, isn't one.
Ultimatley Steve also start giving clues , "And there were some correlations, but only in specific conditions. And those conditions also depended on other conditions. Ultimately there are ways to beat roulette". Any one can decode this statment.
Hi Victor,
I hope you and your family are well. Best of luck with your new roulette venture. I would probably buy this software because it looks worthwhile, but you know, I have my own ways.
Cheers.
Quote from: Taotie on Aug 06, 06:09 AM 2020
Hi Victor,
I hope you and your family are well. Best of luck with your new roulette venture. I would probably buy this software because it looks worthwhile, but you know, I have my own ways.
Cheers.
vaffanculo
Second warning..
Hello Everyone,
If you would like to send in some numbers I would be more than happy to make and upload a YouTube video for everybody to see the software in action!
Music request welcome.
Thank you
Hello Everyone,
I have been working hard to add new features to the new version and make it more user friendly with total size reduction of 20% and now an option for minimize and maximize.
There is a counter button for balance counter based on flat betting and another trigger option that allows you to choose how many numbers to bet connected to a much tighter trigger mechanism regarding the Target Positions and V/L Strings settings.
You can also change background and sound with five preset options or replace the files with your own preferred ones.
We now have over 30 people from around the world involved in this software project and welcome anyone interested to join us in the quest to make the ultimate roulette software, this is an evolving project that will become more sophisticated with every new upgrade and ideas from the group to make those steps to advance forward with any change that is worthwhile to be included.
I have reduced the price to £129 until 01/09/2020, afterwards to the original asking price of £229 will not change so get involved now while the price is low.
You will get the most current version and all future upgrades/ updates are included!
Please understand this is not just a purchase of software it's to become a part of the evolving project and to have say in all future changes and get all versions released.
Please search for RHYTHMATRIX RS
If you're interested please check out my YouTube channel Best Roulette Software.
Thank you
He did a 10K spin test, ofc its not anything near to a longterm 1m spin test but better than 500 spins :P link:s://youtu.be/TIvBEtZKiik
How many actual bets were made? The number of spins doesn't mean anything. So this means that the results might be more impressive than you think.
Quote from: Joe on Aug 28, 07:59 AM 2020
How many actual bets were made? The number of spins doesn't mean anything. So this means that the results might be more impressive than you think.
Thats true ofc
I couldn't tell you how many bets were made due to the speed of the run, sorry.
I will do another run and take note of how many bets were made for these results.
Thank you for all of your inputs!
No B.S All I can say I have used this for over one month now and it works better than anything I have seen in 30 years playing roulette. End of.
Hello Everyone,
The Rhythmatrix Software will be getting an update and will be released on 1st october.
I also have a new side project with all people who are currently on the team and urge anyone who is slightly interested in the system provided to get involved now with the best priced deal as this will certainly be cutting edge software.
Once it's completed it will be for sale at a very high price or not be for sale altogether.
There will literally be millions of setups to choose from and we will be testing to find the ultimate settings for maximum pinpointation!
The Logic behind the software will be the same as what has been presented in the system explanation but with unlimited strings and a separate setup for each one, making this new concept much more complex than the already amazing Rhythmatrix Rs.
Please feel free to message me if you would like to get involved and I will send you all the software details before you make your decision to purchase.
Cheers
What are your experiences with this app.
You use it against casino rng or just live spins.
Quote from: sturrock on Aug 29, 12:45 PM 2020
No B.S All I can say I have used this for over one month now and it works better than anything I have seen in 30 years playing roulette. End of.
How many spins have you tested?
Statistically, you can test lots of groups of even 50k spins, and sometimes results will be good. See my videos for this shown with proven losing systems. I call it the illusion of a winning system.
You could say it's working for you. Keep testing, and see what happens. I've lost count of the amount of times someone proclaimed a system works, until they did more testing. I know its convincing while the bankroll trendline goes up for a bit.
As for this system's approach, I see nothing that realistically indicates the approach might work.
Jaime is a scam !!! Ask for money in exchange for something that is not finished! It takes more than two years with the same without finishing, but always asking for money and without giving anything winning !!! BE CAREFUL, IT IS VERY READY !!! TRY TO CONVINCE YOURSELF AND IT WILL TAKE MONEY FROM YOU LITTLE BY LITTLE WITH CONFIDENCE !!!
Is RHYTHMATRIX RS Jamie Hincks again? It wouldn't surprise me. Same ISP and area.
That scammer was caught writing himself fake positive reviews here:
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=22772.0
So he posted a bunch of fake reviews around the internet about my technology.
Here's what he said after being caught out:
QuoteYes you're right it is me and sorry to everyone for this devious marketing plan.
And then he went on to keep spamming the forum. I should've just banned him from the start.
So RHYTHMATRIX, are you the same clown, again?
Clearly your positive ebay feedback is generic purchased fake reviews too.
Yeah, I did some digging. It's you again Jamie Hincks.
About your fake Trustpilot reviews.. I understand you're in the habit of publishing fake reviews. However, what you did was give me something I haven't had before: someone to sue who actually has money. At this stage though, I have more important issues to work on. I'll might back to them, and you, later.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 23, 09:35 PM 2020
Yeah, I did some digging. It's you again Jamie Hincks.
About your fake Trustpilot reviews.. I understand you're in the habit of publishing fake reviews. However, what you did was give me something I haven't had before: someone to sue who actually has money. At this stage though, I have more important issues to work on. I'll might back to them, and you, later.
Sue now. Why wait?
Quote from: cht on Sep 23, 10:14 PM 2020Sue now. Why wait?
1. Legal cases drag on. I have better things to do. I'm not desperate for money. TIME is far more valuable.
2. If I proceeded, it would only be to teach Trustpilot and Jamie a lesson. It's a negative way to live life. I can accept pathetic people like Jamie exist, and will take their failures out on other people. I've seen that personally for decades and in the end, I've learned to just to get on with life.
The main person who attacked me ended up destroying his own life, fleeing to another country broke, being kicked out by his girlfriend, and blaming me for destroying his life. But he did it all to himself. It's a long story, but if you dedicate your life to harming others, you harm yourself far more.
I've already wasted ample time on it. But the human in me still sometimes spends a few minutes on it, like today. But it has always been the only real harm done to me is wasted time.
Quote from: game over on Sep 23, 04:28 AM 2020
Jaime is a scam !!! Ask for money in exchange for something that is not finished! It takes more than two years with the same without finishing, but always asking for money and without giving anything winning !!! BE CAREFUL, IT IS VERY READY !!! TRY TO CONVINCE YOURSELF AND IT WILL TAKE MONEY FROM YOU LITTLE BY LITTLE WITH CONFIDENCE !!!
Scammers lure you to private chats, where others cant see or call out bullshit. That's why it's against the rules to sell via PMs here.
Everyone is allowed to sell, with some basic rules to protect members. But as we saw here, often the same scammer comes back using fake names. So people need to use their brain. See link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=26422
I won't call all sellers are scammers.
There are sellers who do believe in their products.
When these products don't deliver the results as promised it means the seller has made a mistake in accessing his product that fail. Seller is guilty of overly optimistic with their advertisement claims. Such error does not make them scammers. Many sellers fall under this category.
Quote from: cht on Sep 23, 10:45 PM 2020There are sellers who do believe in their products.
After his claimed 13 years of experience... you dont think he knows his system isn't the "holy grail" and hasn't won millions? You don't think he didn't know he was posting fake positive reviews of his own system?
There is such a thing as believing in your product. And there's such thing as a blatant lie and scam. He shouldn't feel too bad. He clearly wasn't selling much anyway. And even 10 sales is peanuts.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 23, 10:56 PM 2020
After his claimed 13 years of experience... you dont think he knows his system isn't the "holy grail" and hasn't won millions? You don't think he didn't know he was posting fake positive reviews of his own system?
There is such a thing as believing in your product. And there's such thing as a blatant lie and scam. He shouldn't feel too bad. He clearly wasn't selling much anyway. And even 10 sales is peanuts.
He has admitted to the fake reviews.
He is guilty of overly optimistic claims, like every other seller.
This does not prove that he does not believe in his product.
Does this common sellers erroneous activity constitute scam?
We make our own judgement.
Quote from: cht on Sep 23, 11:00 PM 2020This does not prove that he does not believe in his product.
You really think he doesn't know his system isnt the HG that has won millions?
Quote from: cht on Sep 23, 11:00 PM 2020Does this common sellers erroneous activity constitute scam?
Well, yes it does. Lying about the product with fake reviews is deception, and literally scamming. He only admitted it because he had nowhere to go.
And I manage to not exaggerate about my technology. If anything I more downplay it by repeatedly reminding players its not suitable for everyone because most people dont have the right mindset. That's honest.
Quote from: cht on Sep 23, 11:00 PM 2020We make our own judgement.
Sure, its your money.
Has he posted any fake review on both his threads on this forum?
Are comments by members of this forum fake?
Error maybe, fake no.
I think you are wrong to tarnish him with your thread that tags him a scammer, mainly due to his past fake review that he has admitted to.
Quote from: cht on Sep 23, 11:22 PM 2020Are comments by members of this forum fake?
You mean the one person who says so far the system works? Versus common knowledge that such approaches are nonsense..
You think a losing system never wins? Have you seen the videos in which I demonstrate how easily losing systems win quite often, only to eventually tank?
You are very sympathetic to roulette system scammers. CHT, it's your money. Believe and buy whatever you want. Everyone can.
Quote from: game over on Sep 23, 04:28 AM 2020
Jaime is a scam !!! Ask for money in exchange for something that is not finished! It takes more than two years with the same without finishing, but always asking for money and without giving anything winning !!! BE CAREFUL, IT IS VERY READY !!! TRY TO CONVINCE YOURSELF AND IT WILL TAKE MONEY FROM YOU LITTLE BY LITTLE WITH CONFIDENCE !!!
Oh Fuck!
why you didn't say that before ? it's too late now, many have paid him the money, so they all have been scammed?
never mind, as long as it works there should be no problem ...
Quote from: Steve on Sep 23, 11:39 PM 2020
You mean the one person who says so far the system works? Versus common knowledge that such approaches are nonsense..
You think a losing system never wins? Have you seen the videos in which I demonstrate how easily losing systems win quite often, only to eventually tank?
You are very sympathetic to roulette system scammers. CHT, it's your money. Believe and buy whatever you want. Everyone can.
Very weird stance by CHT.
Quote from: cht on Sep 23, 10:45 PM 2020
I won't call all sellers are scammers.
There are sellers who do believe in their products.
When these products don't deliver the results as promised it means the seller has made a mistake in accessing his product that fail. Seller is guilty of overly optimistic with their advertisement claims. Such error does not make them scammers. Many sellers fall under this category.
If you keep my money twice and don't give me a way to earn and don't want to pay me back, aren't you a scammer? So what is it called?
nor has he given me the software, nor does his way of playing win ... are you sure he's not a scammer?
he is a scoundrel !!!
JAIME SCAMMER!
Quote from: game over on Sep 24, 12:45 PM 2020
If you keep my money twice and don't give me a way to earn and don't want to pay me back, aren't you a scammer? So what is it called?
nor has he given me the software, nor does his way of playing win ... are you sure he's not a scammer?
he is a scoundrel !!!
JAIME SCAMMER!
has he or has he not given you the software? if not how can you call him out?..
jamie may have made a few mistakes promoting his software but theres that many out there he was trying to get ahead with his fake reviews..
so what...
and for the final version? i believe he is developing or morphing it into something beyond the way it is now...
it takes a lot of spins sometimes to get in profit....maybe he,s trying to make it quicker..
look at his videos it does sometimes take a lot of spins...
tbh if people buy software thats a chance they take.....
i don,t usually stick up for people selling software but jamie is genuine...
i know you say you are a long term watcher turned member and i respect that you helped nico with the double streams tracker by putting it on here......but personelly i do not think jamie is a scammer ...hell steve has had his moments too with his software very early on...
And as for the Sergio statement in the other forum it doesn’t work after he paid for it..ask yourself a question..why would someone who has at least 4 holy grails under his. belt actually pay for software and ask for members on gambling forum to Play with their own money with him in control of if it to prove a point his hg works...
I’ll tell you why becouse he hasn’t found it simple is as simple does
Forrest Gump
FYI, Jamie has been banned from here. Both our final responses are at link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27437
If anyone wants to buy his system, buy it. Just don't expect to recover your investment.
And "game over", are you passionruleta?
If you are, and have a legitimate complaint against jamie, I'll allow it. But if you're preferring to stay anonymous without any justification, or fair criticisms of Jamie, then that wont be allowed.
Have you actually paid money to Jamie?
And Jamie, you can respond to him.
But Jamie, dont bother responding to anything I've said. I'm not wasting time on you. But to be fair you can discuss with "game over". Although you're a dickhead as far as I'm concerned, considering your fake reviews about you and even me (as retaliation for me protecting members), it's still not right for someone to lie about you. So you can defend yourself against unfair attacks. Dont tell me I've been unfair to you. I know exactly what happened.