Good morning everyone.
I was wondering whether to come back here or not.
However, decide to return.
For a long time I have been talking, that I have what you call "Grail", although I think this is really silly.
This is a post just to end it. And show that it is possible to win at roulette. Whether it is an "RNG" roulette or even a "PHYSICAL" wheel. Without many inventions.
In fact, my goal with this is to end Steve's challenge, and make it clear to him that after the end of this, and he has this in his hands, that this site alone will be closed, because there is no more because of its purpose.
So my challenge is:
Steve, create an account at a casino, with your data and profile. (I would ask you to go to Betfair or Betsson, as this is where I normally operate).
I don't care what currency you're going to use, be it pounds, euros, dollars it doesn't matter.
The first initial top up of your account must be “thousand unitsâ€, this top up will be done by me.
At the end of fifteen days, when we start the challenge, the account in question should contain 10x the amount of your initial deposit, where you can monitor and check your progress in question.
As your intention as you said in several posts would not be the money itself (since you have earned a lot over the years with programs that I somehow consider illegal), and as for me it is not for the money too, when this account you have funds of 10,000 units of your choice, you must withdraw the funds and donate your winnings to a charity of your choice.
If you agree, all progress will be posted on this forum and topic.
Strong hug to all.
ImbativelAA / Saladin / Saladin
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 03, 05:44 AM 2020In fact, my goal with this is to end Steve's challenge, and make it clear to him that after the end of this, and he has this in his hands, that this site alone will be closed
Just because you find a holy grail, doesn't mean the site gets turned off. Btw, there is no holy grail.
It is not because you did not find it that it does not exist.
Anyway, my intention is not to be arguing here. Even because the ego of the people on this site is very high. I feel like I'm talking to millionaires.
Don't be greedy.
There are very egotistical people here, you're right, they just think they know something
I can tell you that the last thing I am is greedy.
Unfortunately, money for many here is really important.
It's not my case.
I think you read what I wrote well. I made it clear, that I will make the initial deposit. And that all the money earned is to be donated to charity.
My goal is simply to show that the challenge can be complete.
Only that.
I sent you a PM, I accept your proposal!
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 03, 06:04 AM 2020It is not because you did not find it that it does not exist.
The math proves my point. You cannot make predictions better than random. Do you claim to have out smarted geniuses?
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 03, 05:44 AM 2020
Good morning everyone.
I was wondering whether to come back here or not.
However, decide to return.
For a long time I have been talking, that I have what you call "Grail", although I think this is really silly.
This is a post just to end it. And show that it is possible to win at roulette. Whether it is an "RNG" roulette or even a "PHYSICAL" wheel. Without many inventions.
In fact, my goal with this is to end Steve's challenge, and make it clear to him that after the end of this, and he has this in his hands, that this site alone will be closed, because there is no more because of its purpose.
So my challenge is:
Steve, create an account at a casino, with your data and profile. (I would ask you to go to Betfair or Betsson, as this is where I normally operate).
I don't care what currency you're going to use, be it pounds, euros, dollars it doesn't matter.
The first initial top up of your account must be “thousand unitsâ€, this top up will be done by me.
At the end of fifteen days, when we start the challenge, the account in question should contain 10x the amount of your initial deposit, where you can monitor and check your progress in question.
As your intention as you said in several posts would not be the money itself (since you have earned a lot over the years with programs that I somehow consider illegal), and as for me it is not for the money too, when this account you have funds of 10,000 units of your choice, you must withdraw the funds and donate your winnings to a charity of your choice.
If you agree, all progress will be posted on this forum and topic.
Strong hug to all.
ImbativelAA / Saladin / Saladin
Late to the party I see.
Mathematics is not the answer to that question.
Keep trying and insisting on it, and you will surely fail.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 03, 01:40 PM 2020Mathematics is not the answer to that question.
You're right. Math doesn't answer roulette, but roulette must answer to math.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 03, 01:40 PM 2020Keep trying and insisting on it, and you will surely fail.
If you keep trying to beat roulette with systems, you'll surely fail every time and waste a whole lot of time. This is opportunity cost.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 03, 05:44 AM 2020
Good morning everyone.
I was wondering whether to come back here or not.
However, decide to return.
For a long time I have been talking, that I have what you call "Grail", although I think this is really silly.
This is a post just to end it. And show that it is possible to win at roulette. Whether it is an "RNG" roulette or even a "PHYSICAL" wheel. Without many inventions.
In fact, my goal with this is to end Steve's challenge, and make it clear to him that after the end of this, and he has this in his hands, that this site alone will be closed, because there is no more because of its purpose.
So my challenge is:
Steve, create an account at a casino, with your data and profile. (I would ask you to go to Betfair or Betsson, as this is where I normally operate).
I don't care what currency you're going to use, be it pounds, euros, dollars it doesn't matter.
The first initial top up of your account must be “thousand unitsâ€, this top up will be done by me.
At the end of fifteen days, when we start the challenge, the account in question should contain 10x the amount of your initial deposit, where you can monitor and check your progress in question.
As your intention as you said in several posts would not be the money itself (since you have earned a lot over the years with programs that I somehow consider illegal), and as for me it is not for the money too, when this account you have funds of 10,000 units of your choice, you must withdraw the funds and donate your winnings to a charity of your choice.
If you agree, all progress will be posted on this forum and topic.
Strong hug to all.
ImbativelAA / Saladin / Saladin
Good initiative! Congrats!
Even though he's not gonna take it, it's something to appreciate!
All the best!
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 03, 05:44 AM 2020
Good morning everyone.
I was wondering whether to come back here or not.
However, decide to return.
For a long time I have been talking, that I have what you call "Grail", although I think this is really silly.
This is a post just to end it. And show that it is possible to win at roulette. Whether it is an "RNG" roulette or even a "PHYSICAL" wheel. Without many inventions.
In fact, my goal with this is to end Steve's challenge, and make it clear to him that after the end of this, and he has this in his hands, that this site alone will be closed, because there is no more because of its purpose.
So my challenge is:
Steve, create an account at a casino, with your data and profile. (I would ask you to go to Betfair or Betsson, as this is where I normally operate).
I don't care what currency you're going to use, be it pounds, euros, dollars it doesn't matter.
The first initial top up of your account must be “thousand unitsâ€, this top up will be done by me.
At the end of fifteen days, when we start the challenge, the account in question should contain 10x the amount of your initial deposit, where you can monitor and check your progress in question.
As your intention as you said in several posts would not be the money itself (since you have earned a lot over the years with programs that I somehow consider illegal), and as for me it is not for the money too, when this account you have funds of 10,000 units of your choice, you must withdraw the funds and donate your winnings to a charity of your choice.
If you agree, all progress will be posted on this forum and topic.
Strong hug to all.
ImbativelAA / Saladin / Saladin
Your challenge seems to be very interesting, so respect you for it, but I'm afraid that Steve will never accept such a challenge as it because is not in his interest to prove that consistently winning in roulette by using a system that requires NO DEVICES is possible.
Quote from: Ares289 on Nov 03, 06:22 PM 2020Your challenge seems to be very interesting, so respect you for it, but I'm afraid that Steve will never accept such a challenge as it because is not in his interest to prove that consistently winning in roulette by using a system that requires NO DEVICES is possible.
That's a boneheaded statement. If there were a better method of beating roulette, I'd appreciate and use that instead with my profit-split teams. I don't have a boner for any particular technology or method. I just use whatever works best.
And besides, I already have methods that win without devices.
MAGEKNIGHTBR, regarding your challenge.. 10x profit isn't much of a challenge. The challenge appears to interest people who don't understand better. I mean even random bets can easily do that. But I accept with one small change; instead of using my account, we use your account. Beforehand, you'll state the casino and account name. And I'll be able to login and check all deposits and betting history.
Let's proceed...
Quote from: Steve on Nov 03, 07:06 PM 2020
That's a boneheaded statement. If there were a better method of beating roulette, I'd appreciate and use that instead with my profit-split teams. I don't have a boner for any particular technology or method. I just use whatever works best.
The truth is not "boneheaded", you just have to be guided by profit in your life, because it's rational actions if you want to survive, so I don't blame you for that - that's understandable.
You don't know better. Leave it at that.
No problem, Steve.
Just don't say that I don't have it, or that I don't know how to do it. Simply, because you have brought together the best people and you have not been successful with that.
Plus the account I'm working on will be sent to you, one of the accounts that my team and I work on. I don't know how much money earned will actually impress you. Note that for me, it is quite indifferent. People tried and failed, but I studied for over 12 years on the subject. I firmly state that you and your team, like many here, made a mistake because they wanted to face the problem as a mathematical or programming dilemma. What is not. It is observation.
You will see the amount of money that my team and I have earned over the days.
When a value is reached and the consistency calls your attention, you just go back to that same place and say that you were wrong about your considerations regarding me.
Hugs.
Hi, Is possible to have a basic line to work on for this type of solution? I'm not asking for the easy way, but for something to follow up.
Thank you.
I have accepted your challenge and offered you my account to see your results, but you have ignored me ...
do you think i'm less than steve? I could also demonstrate what I do and I think I also deserve respect and despite not being so well known because I don't like recognition, you have completely ignored me.
Hector.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 04, 01:59 PM 2020Just don't say that I don't have it, or that I don't know how to do it.
So far you've provided nothing for me to believe your claims. Even your challenge of 10x bankroll is pointless. Who here can't increase bankroll 10x with some random bets and betting progression?
You're acting like it's "proof" of something. It's proof of nothing. Any experienced player would understand this.
You don't need to be an expert to see when someone's "full of it". You only need basic knowledge. I'm not calling you a liar. Maybe you really believe what you're saying. But at the same time, if you really had a long-term winning system for RNG, you'd be out making billions - not wasting time with a 10x bankroll challenge.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 04, 01:59 PM 2020I firmly state that you and your team, like many here, made a mistake because they wanted to face the problem as a mathematical or programming dilemma. What is not. It is observation.
It's simple logic. Your win rate must be better than random. There are 37 pockets. The payout is an unfair 35-1. There's no mistaking this problem.
You say your system is about "observation". So, observing something. Then you are predicting something, or making bets, based on observations. That's what advantage play basically is. So what's special about it?
I received your pm with login details. It doesn't appear the account exists yet, or login details are incorrect.
You said you'd proceed next week. Anytime from now onwards is fine for me. I'll login and verify results.
But again, what does 10x bankroll increase prove? It's really not hard to do with random bets and progression. That's starting with $100 and getting to $1100.
In this case, the solution is easy. He should only do flat betting, for the entire duration of the challenge.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 04, 09:41 PM 2020
I received your pm with login details. It doesn't appear the account exists yet, or login details are incorrect.
You said you'd proceed next week. Anytime from now onwards is fine for me. I'll login and verify results.
But again, what does 10x bankroll increase prove? It's really not hard to do with random bets and progression. That's starting with $100 and getting to $1100.
STEVE, you say it's easy to do it, you could make us a video, with cash 100 euros and arrive at 1,100 euros,
Why not just demonstrate it so that everyone can see?
Quote from: Steve on Nov 04, 09:41 PM 2020But again, what does 10x bankroll increase prove? It's really not hard to do with random bets and progression. That's starting with $100 and getting to $1100.
It proves much, @ mageknightbr claim that have an advantage that is very easy to detect even on 20-30 spins. So if he will do 10x his bankroll because he has an advantage is one, if he that will do simply with progression - that is luck.
Luck is not interesting, advantage is interesting.
Very easy to calculate is he has an advantage, if I know all his bets and winning numbers.
The simplest way for that is to play here or through skype, where one simply name a number from video - other write bets for next spin. After all load video on youtube and all can see that was no mistakes....
From such data possible calculate if are the advantage and approximately how big it is...
I sent the data correctly.
In fact, it doesn't matter to me what you think, or your theses.
Einstein once said that it would be easier to steal money from a crop table as long as he doesn't realize it than to try to win money at roulette. This, in fact, caught my attention. Oh, I wonder, if not even Einstein, who was one of the greatest physicists on the planet, managed to solve the game's dilemma, do you still believe that the solution is mathematical, physical or something related to programming? It is not. The answer is observation. Even Steve, it is not difficult for you to reach this conclusion yourself, since your computerized systems, results not doing calculations, but treatment of the wheel, have you never provided this way?
In any case, people say "because you just don't have your method". Because if I do, it will certainly no longer work as it will be a matter of time in closing the game or the rule has changed.
Every system has a rule. They can simply change a rule.
What I think about here is this: Steve, argue that you have a company, a team, whatever, that works only with that.
Steve claims he has already consulted with casinos. Do you imagine that, Steve having the Grail in his hands and buying it for the 100,000 dollar baguette, how much he would earn by presenting this problem to the gaming industry? In fact, who guarantees that Steve simply does not work for the gaming industry, and is only here to find people who say it is possible to complete the challenge?
In any case, the results of all the preparations will be photographed and videos will be made and posted daily here. So, everyone follows the progress.
I am not responding to any PM. Be careful of fraudulent and addicted people, after your little money.
I just want to show you that it is possible to hit the wheel. After all, there are many serious people here who study and try this for years.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 04, 09:41 PM 2020
But again, what does 10x bankroll increase prove? It's really not hard to do with random bets and progression. That's starting with $100 and getting to $1100.
Okay, so make a VIDEO (live stream would be better) of doing it with RANDOM bets, starting game at $100 and getting to $1000 and share HERE so everyone can see that your statement is true.
I will not make live videos. This will make anyone with a minimum of observation understand how the system works. I'm sorry.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 05, 01:35 PM 2020
I will not make live videos. This will make anyone with a minimum of observation understand how the system works. I'm sorry.
I understand your approach, my post was aimed at the greatest skeptic in the world. :thumbsup:
So far just words on a forum, and yet so many are interested. Bizzare.
Quote from: Ares289 on Nov 05, 01:53 PM 2020
I understand your approach, my post was aimed at the greatest skeptic in the world. :thumbsup:
Do you have the holy grail too?
Quote from: precogmiles on Nov 05, 01:56 PM 2020
Do you have the holy grail too?
I made the decision not to speak directly about it, because it could be used not only against me.
I didn't understand if we will have the opportunity to study this or not. I cannot accept the fact that something like this is there without no possibilities to reach it. Probably i undesrstand now that for a lot of people here this thing of roulette is like a race, a gold medal race, because a lot of you spend time arguing and insult each other (i'm talking in general in the forum). I don't care about this stuffs i just want to free myself and my family from life problems, and in the mean time fortunally roulette is fascinating. Some of you knows the effort that i put in my tests, so i will receive every hints and help always without shame, and i'll hope we can study that.
Quote from: nichedelico on Nov 05, 02:10 PM 2020
I didn't understand if we will have the opportunity to study this or not. I cannot accept the fact that something like this is there without no possibilities to reach it. Probably i undesrstand now that for a lot of people here this thing of roulette is like a race, a gold medal race, because a lot of you spend time arguing and insult each other (i'm talking in general in the forum). I don't care about this stuffs i just want to free myself and my family from life problems, and in the mean time fortunally roulette is fascinating. Some of you knows the effort that i put in my tests, so i will receive every hints and help always without shame, and i'll hope we can study that.
Have you watched any if Steve's videos?
Quote from: Ares289 on Nov 05, 02:06 PM 2020
I made the decision not to speak directly about it, because it could be used not only against me.
Do you have any evidence.
Quote from: precogmiles on Nov 05, 02:17 PM 2020
Do you have any evidence.
I won't show any evidence, because in my best interest it's that people don't want believe in HG.
Quote from: Ares289 on Nov 05, 02:40 PM 2020
I won't show any evidence, because in my best interest it's that people don't want believe in HG.
I am confused. Why do so many claim to have the holy grail yet none of them provide any evidence.
I know at least 8 others on this and other forums who claim to have the holy grail and refuse to provide evidence.
It gets very boring after a while.
Quote from: precogmiles on Nov 05, 02:49 PM 2020
I am confused. Why do so many claim to have the holy grail yet none of them provide any evidence.
I know at least 8 others on this and other forums who claim to have the holy grail and refuse to provide evidence.
It gets very boring after a while.
It's obvious that people don't want to make public any relevant details because it's too risky.
Quote from: Ares289 on Nov 05, 02:56 PM 2020
It's obvious that people don't want to make public any relevant details because it's too risky.
Ok do you want to sell it? Is that why you are on the forums?
Quote from: precogmiles on Nov 05, 03:09 PM 2020
Ok do you want to sell it? Is that why you are on the forums?
People who have a truly effective roulette system don't have to sell anything.
The vast majority (or even all) system sellers are ordinary SCAMMERS.
Quote from: precogmiles on Nov 05, 03:09 PM 2020
Ok do you want to sell it? Is that why you are on the forums?
I saw his review on a website selling systems, he's a junkie trying every one of them, probably the latest is still in the upswing so you can understand his confidence.
But it wouldn't be surprising if he will attempt to sell something soon.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 05, 01:27 PM 2020
In any case, the results of all the preparations will be photographed and videos will be made and posted daily here. So, everyone follows the progress.
OK
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 05, 01:27 PM 2020
I will not make live videos. This will make anyone with a minimum of observation understand how the system works. I'm sorry.
AH
Next update: nothing will be revealed to you filthy mortals.
Quote from: stranger90 on Nov 05, 05:10 PM 2020
I saw his review on a website selling systems, he's a junkie trying every one of them, probably the latest is still in the upswing so you can understand his confidence.
But it wouldn't be surprising if he will attempt to sell something soon.
So that means you are intellectually retarded (or pitiful slanderer) because i have never tried to sell any system and there is no any reason that i should do so in future.
Really, that is the measure to qualify as retarded?
Then what are you in this case? A sore loser with a winning system for now.
The holder of the holy grail, roaming on forums insulting people, buying every gimmick with a pompous name.
I think plants are smarter than you, you are the ground below the plant and dogs piss on you.
Quote from: stranger90 on Nov 05, 05:39 PM 2020
Really, that is the measure to qualify as retarded?
The second possibility is that you are just a ordinary funny LIAR.
QuoteThen what are you in this case?
I don't exist for you - because YOU don't exist for me.
QuoteThe holder of the holy grail, roaming on forums insulting people, buying every gimmick with a pompous name.
I don't have to buy anything related to roulette.
QuoteI think plants are smarter than you, you are the ground below the plant and dogs piss on you.
I think that even urine is smarter than you. :twisted:
Quote from: Ares289 on Nov 05, 01:31 PM 2020
Okay, so make a VIDEO (live stream would be better) of doing it with RANDOM bets, starting game at $100 and getting to $1000 and share HERE so everyone can see that your statement is true.
See my videos where I show it happen many, many times in millions of spins. I think it's in this video:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=mEdIM_2KsLM
Quote from: Steve on Nov 05, 07:10 PM 2020
See my videos where I show it happen many, many times in millions of spins. I think it's in this video:
Just because something is statistically possible doesn't change the fact that probability of such an event is
VERY LOW.
It doesn't matter what is statistically probable or improbable. What matters is the payout vs odds. Because if you are paid unfairly, you'll always be a step behind.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 05, 09:08 PM 2020
It doesn't matter what is statistically probable or improbable.
It's not true that it doesn't matter, because you know very well that you're wrong when you say that:
QuoteIt's really not hard to do with random bets and progression.
- because it's a
LIE.
Quote from: Ares289 on Nov 05, 10:14 PM 2020
It's not true that it doesn't matter, because you know very well that you're wrong when you say that:
- because it's a LIE.
Ares, thank you for pointing that out.
Earlier I made the exact same post but realised Steve put me on moderation so I deleted it.
Steve wrote a lie.
Steve made a statement that contradicts math.
This is clear proof he doesn't understand the math. A wrong statement he made repeatedly on this forum. Anyone can check his history post to confirm.
Nope. No lie there. It's just really basic stuff you're not understanding.
Please don't ask me to explain it again. But feel free to explain to everyone your logic that proves that I, and everyone with basic understanding of math, lied about the universe.
I can't help myself. It's OCD.
First, you took only the first part of my statement. My full statement was:
It doesn't matter what is statistically probable or improbable. What matters is the payout vs odds. Because if you are paid unfairly, you'll always be a step behind.I'll put it into context for you...
It's IMPROBABLE that you'll see 37 different numbers in 37 spins.
But it makes sweet fuck-all difference, because you still have 1 in 37 chance of winning on each number, and the payout is still an unfair 35-1. So even when you win, you still lose.
So all the bullshit systems based around some "improbable event" are based on fairytales and fallacy. Again, what matters is the payouts vs odds.
Is that clearer? I could give many other examples, but it shouldn't be hard to understand.
Also I said:
QuoteIt's really not hard to do with random bets and progression.
Maybe I wasn't clear.
I meant to say
increasing your bankroll by 10x is really fucking easy with random bets and progression. And doing it is proof of nothing.
Again, in my videos you see this happening many times, on a larger scale.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 06, 12:38 AM 2020
I can't help myself. It's OCD.
Great. You finally admit it. ;D
Quote
First, you took only the first part of my statement. My full statement was:
It doesn't matter what is statistically probable or improbable. What matters is the payout vs odds. Because if you are paid unfairly, you'll always be a step behind.
The first two sentences are inconsistent. If 'What matters is the payout vs odds' is true (and it is) then the odds (probabilities) do matter. Otherwise AP wouldn't work. If the odds are higher than the payouts (implied probability) then you will win, so it DOES matter what is statistically probably or improbable.
Quote
I meant to say increasing your bankroll by 10x is really fucking easy with random bets and progression. And doing it is proof of nothing.
This is wrong, because although it may be relatively easy to find an example where your bankroll increases x 10 after trawling through many systems and results, it's not at all the same as someone predicting that
one particular system/session will generate that result. It's like saying that one
unspecified number will hit 3 times in the next 3 spins vs one
preselected number doing the same. The probability of the latter result is much lower than the former. Mageknightbr's challenge is like this, because he has just
one chance at a particular time to prove himself, so it's like preselecting the number.
It's very amusing to see a bunch of self professed math experts, who are clueless, and haven't made a penny from Roulette, arguing with a person who has crushed Roulette and scaled it to a profitable business.
If you can't understand the basics that Steve has explained over and over again - you got no hope. Get a brain scan, to see if you got brain damage.
Winforus, is that it? Anything else apart from Ad Hominems? You are far too gullible regarding Steve. I don't believe he has 'crushed' roulette at all, and his maths is flawed. Ask anyone who actually understands probability and statistics like Bebediktus.
Do you want me to spell it out with equations?
Steve is basically a con-man who has garnered any influence he has mostly by sheer repetition and brainwashing. His business has taken a hit from Covid and he seems to be getting more desperate. His ridiculous conspiracy theory rants show that he has serious issues, and he's a compulsive liar.
I expect I'll be banned now, but I don't care.
Quote from: Joe on Nov 06, 04:03 AM 2020
Winforus, is that it? Anything else apart from Ad Hominems? You are far too gullible regarding Steve. I don't believe he has 'crushed' roulette at all, and his maths is flawed. Ask anyone who actually understands probability and statistics like Bebediktus.
Do you want me to spell it out with equations?
Steve is basically a con-man who has garnered any influence he has mostly by sheer repetition and brainwashing. His business has taken a hit from Covid and he seems to be getting more desperate. His ridiculous conspiracy theory rants show that he has serious issues, and he's a compulsive liar.
I expect I'll be banned now, but I don't care.
Thanks Joe for writing this post.
Steve put me on watch first and now moderation for writing the same thing about him.
Steve, delete my account.
I don't want to give credence to a con job forum.
In fact, Steve, please close my account. I don't want to be associated with a scumbag like you. :thumbsup:
Joe, you know very well the context of my statement. And it was made even clearer in my following post.
You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Probably because our other "discussions" didn't go well for you.
And now you've spat the dummy, calling me names. You making an ass off yourself is not my fault.
As for crushing roulette, what would you call beating almost any wheel to the point you must limit winnings to avoid detection? Its just how it is.
All that happened here is I made an accurate statement you tried to discredit. You tried to troll me. And it didn't work. You aren't the only person to blame me for your own problems.
That being the case, good riddance.
Quote from: cht on Nov 06, 04:06 AM 2020Steve put me on watch first and now moderation for writing the same thing about him.
No, as I recall i put you on moderation for trolling other members.
Quote from: cht on Nov 06, 04:06 AM 2020Steve, delete my account.
I don't want to give credence to a con job forum.
If you don't want to be here, just leave. You don't need to stomp your feet and make a scene.
And "con job forum"? That's the best you've got? You're not the only one to blame me for your own behaviour.
I'd rather a quiet but productive forum of people who take responsibility for themselves, instead of a busy forum full of trolls.
Quote from: Joe on Nov 06, 04:03 AM 2020Do you want me to spell it out with equations?
Please do. Don't make it personal when you make a dickhead of yourself again. Don't blame me.
Quote from: Joe on Nov 06, 04:03 AM 2020Steve is basically a con-man who has garnered any influence he has mostly by sheer repetition and brainwashing.
Stop, it hurts. Joe, repetition of verifiable fact is not brainwashing. It's just explaining reality. You'll get the same at places like math forums. Are all the "round-Earthers" just "compulsive lying con men"? How about every other gaming professional who says the same thing?
So is not possible talk about roulette? Now for who claim to have the solution, when you decide to share this in a forum, what is the purpose? Logically is sharing and give something to work on to the people, any other purpose? No, there's not, if you have good intentions. Because if you have something that you don't want to share at all, continue with your life and make yourself happy, deceiving people is bad (i'm not talking about everyone, for example cht wrote a lot about his way). Now if we cannot talk about roulette as grown men, what is this forum for?
Quote from: Steve on Nov 05, 07:10 PM 2020
See my videos where I show it happen many, many times in millions of spins. I think it's in this video:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=mEdIM_2KsLM
Excuse me STEVE I saw the video, but what do you want to prove with statistics on millions of boule??? know also the donkeys that in the long run the numbers not come out succeed and the frequent numbers go into hibernation, I see only demo videos, that show what??? nothing, every game must be based as a limit of boule, then do one thing, recalculate every 150 boule, and at the end of taking, reset and recalculate, from the last boule, you will see that everything changes, that is, mini cycles with tot boule, lead to an immediate and safe win, Excuse me but I think you're the person incompetent in the matter, math 0, enter this formula, in excel X=36-(2 d) x3 the whole divided by 4 2d is at double distance, or when you find a double distance, enter this formula and extrapolate a number only,do the same for all the times you have a double distance, you must have only 6 numbers to play, which within 6 shots will win, if in the meantime one of those extrapolated from the formula always waits six numbers,
Quote from: nichedelico on Nov 06, 07:38 AM 2020
So is not possible talk about roulette? Now for who claim to have the solution, when you decide to share this in a forum, what is the purpose? Logically is sharing and give something to work on to the people, any other purpose? No, there's not, if you have good intentions. Because if you have something that you don't want to share at all, continue with your life and make yourself happy, deceiving people is bad (i'm not talking about everyone, for example cht wrote a lot about his way). Now if we cannot talk about roulette as grown men, what is this forum for?
I don't want anything, because you don't accept a different way of seeing roulette, but especially if someone wants to donate and make you understand, you'll be moderated by your posts, don't worry I don't have to sell anything, and I won't give anyone my programs, but I can only make you understand how to do it, and all for free, if you want, I use my ballistic program, and he uses his hybrid, cash 100 euro only, and after 1 hour, we'll see who has done more""".
Good riddance CHT. This guy has been trolling and spamming the forum nonstop. Free speech is limited - for example yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is not allowed.
Quality> Quantity. As Steve has said, I would prefer for this forum to be quieter, but far more productive, without a bunch of recycled garbage.
If you want to share garbage and claim that you have HG, feel free to post it on other forums.
On Roulettephysics.com, and on this forum - Steve has provided a lot of FREE valuable info, that one can actually charge money for.
There is enough info, that can turn a huge losing player into a small winning player, at the very least. I am talking about VB, dealer's signature,etc. There are videos that explain common fallacies, myths, and traps.
Instead the man gets accused of being a conman.
The problem is not even with the low IQs, but with low level of consciousness. Lucky for us, precognition has gained some traction over the past few months, and I hope that when the quality of this forum rises, there will be more people who would be interested in discussing outside the box methods, instead of the recycled garbage.
Quote from: VENERE98 on Nov 06, 08:03 AM 2020but what do you want to prove with statistics on millions of boule???
I didn't expect you'd understand it. The video demonstrates statistical relevance. Basically, how players are fooled into thinking short-term results prove their system is the "holy grail".
Quote from: VENERE98 on Nov 06, 08:03 AM 2020know also the donkeys that in the long run the numbers not come out succeed and the frequent numbers go into hibernation
Can anyone help me understand what he just said? It sounds like typical fallacy with cold numbers, sleepers, hot numbers etc.
Quote from: VENERE98 on Nov 06, 08:03 AM 2020every game must be based as a limit of boule, then do one thing, recalculate every 150 boule, and at the end of taking, reset and recalculate, from the last boule, you will see that everything changes, that is, mini cycles with tot boule, lead to an immediate and safe win,
No that's not how it works. There are no limits in the context you're saying.
Look, I've been through this before with many other self-professed gurus. Instead of me wasting time again, just show everyone here how awesome your system is. Forget me, and show everyone.
I dont understand why new people come here trying to prove something to me with a short meaningless test. Forget proving anything to me. Just go make your money.
I'm sorry I didn't come back here.
More being very sincere and honest. I did an operation in the American elections that have resulted in a $ 15,000 loss so far.
I'm being honest with everyone at all times. I returned to operating on roulette, only yesterday. I will do the following, which I think is the fairest for everyone.
Every day, I will post this image that I get from my game history, and everyone will see how much I really earn each day.
I think it's the most honest and transparent way for people to observe this. Something I tell you is: I don't play roulette 24 hours a day. In fact, I make enough income to have peace of mind on a daily basis. Generally, this is 100 dollars or a little less per day, since in Brazil, 100 3,000 dollars a month is an absurd amount of money, where I have no difficulty.
In the rest, there are other people on my team, who give me the daily income they earn (I am not recruiting anyone here to participate in this, I want to make this clear). The objective is to show you that it is possible to hit the RNG wheel.
This money that my team makes, is all invested in market applications and generally in bitcoins or real estate funds (thinking about the future).(//)
(link:s://ibb.co/F3SNcxj)
link:s://ibb.co/F3SNcxj
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 10, 09:41 AM 2020
I'm sorry I didn't come back here.
More being very sincere and honest. I did an operation in the American elections that have resulted in a $ 15,000 loss so far.
I'm being honest with everyone at all times. I returned to operating on roulette, only yesterday. I will do the following, which I think is the fairest for everyone.
Every day, I will post this image that I get from my game history, and everyone will see how much I really earn each day.
I think it's the most honest and transparent way for people to observe this. Something I tell you is: I don't play roulette 24 hours a day. In fact, I make enough income to have peace of mind on a daily basis. Generally, this is 100 dollars or a little less per day, since in Brazil, 100 3,000 dollars a month is an absurd amount of money, where I have no difficulty.
In the rest, there are other people on my team, who give me the daily income they earn (I am not recruiting anyone here to participate in this, I want to make this clear). The objective is to show you that it is possible to hit the RNG wheel.
This money that my team makes, is all invested in market applications and generally in bitcoins or real estate funds (thinking about the future).
(link:s://ibb.co/F3SNcxj)
bravo , questo e il vero approccio , vincere 100 dollari al giorno, e domani e un altro giorno
I just wanted to reiterate something: The work that Steve did here, is wonderful. There is really valuable information here. And I was able to learn a lot in this forum.
But, remember that your ultimate goal is to sell computers that accurately match the roulette number. Don't be innocent in forgetting that. Plus, I have all my respect for him and his work. Although, never buy a computer to play roulette. First, that morally speaking I consider this to be illegal. However, that is allowed in many countries as, in fact, I am a person of principle, I consider it a fraud and theft. Note, that this is my personal opinion. I wouldn't do it. When you accept to sit at a roulette table, you need to understand that the casino has already made it clear that it has all the advantages and you have chosen to sit there knowing that. Nobody forced you to sit down to play roulette.
And it is not because someone has what you call the Grail, which to me is bullshit, that that someone is obliged to share with you. Study, analyze and arrive at your conclusions.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 10, 09:41 AM 2020
link:s://ibb.co/F3SNcxj
penny roulette?
and steve why do i have to have my posts approved by a moderator now?...what have i done now ?..moderated..what is the world coming to
How do you expect to be taken seriously? talk about 100 day in day out and show a $50 screenshot. You sound like someone with a system that is still on the upswing and all your ideas are fresh, it's day dreaming. You presented your wish to make $3k a month not reality. If your strategy was as good as you say there would be no limits, 10x a month and tou need only 5 months to become a millionaire starting with $10.
You are deluded!
Quote from: 6th-sense on Nov 10, 02:24 PM 2020what have i done now ?
14 misdemeanors and 2 felonies.
Actually I just changed some server setting is all.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 10, 09:47 AM 2020But, remember that your ultimate goal is to sell computers
You only know what you see.
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 10, 09:47 AM 2020I consider this to be illegal
What legal research have you done in every major jurisdiction?
Quote from: mageknightbr on Nov 10, 09:47 AM 2020I am a person of principle, I consider it a fraud and theft
I consider it beating those "poor casinos" at their own game.
Anyway, no need to argue. You came to do a challenge. Let's do it. When is your "team" starting?
Quote from: Steve on Nov 10, 06:23 PM 2020
You only know what you see.
What legal research have you done in every major jurisdiction?
I consider it beating those "poor casinos" at their own game.
Anyway, no need to argue. You came to do a challenge. Let's do it. When is your "team" starting?
steve ma perche' ti devi abbassare a queste cose????? hai fatto vedere tutto, ora la gente ha l.opportunita' di provare il sistema per 7 giorni, se vogliono comprare lo fanno se non lo vogliono comprare vadano in altri luoghi a farsi spennare i soldi, io ho visto il grafico del video, ed ho capito e anche senza provarlo per me e validissimo e vincente, ma voglio affittarlo per 7 giorni, giocando io in reale per 12 ore dalla mattina alla sera, e dopo immetto qui i risultati, in questo modo io che non sono di parte e che sono iscritto da poco, nel forum, e immettero, sezione fatta delle 12 ore, cassa iniziale 1000 euro, le sfide che ti chiedono di fare sono solo degli attacchi, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: dimenticavo la gente dice che i tuoi compiuters sono illegali???? allora che dire dei casino' che attuano imbrogli e truffe a scapito dei giocatori???? :thumbsup: :thumbsup: