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Title: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 13, 06:13 AM 2021
Why is it harder to win on MPR.

If you have zigzag method, say you use brain-dead way, grid 1 and grid 2.

R-sim is easier to win on. MPR well different.

Are they using different Algorithm?

If you look at news on R-sim it might still be there, but I've attached if gone.

Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 13, 07:23 AM 2021
48 spins
1st #34R.
+240; using a sequence. Try on MPR. Different stream will show, completely.

Longest to get a win, 5 spins.

This stream, that something that don't happen to often, has happened once.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 13, 07:25 AM 2021
MPR, you get to many spins matching a sequence. A sequence 12 spins. To often Random org gives 10 spins that match.
Unlike R-sim, The Marty don't get beat that often.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 13, 03:59 PM 2021
I'm still on R-sim
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 13, 06:29 PM 2021
Just 1 sequence.
R-sim just seems easier to win against MPR.

Normy is it down to different algorithms being used.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: Face on Mar 14, 03:22 AM 2021
Hi!
Do you have a dgt file?
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: Steve on Mar 14, 04:20 AM 2021
MPR uses random.org, a high quality RNG

I dont know what r-sim uses. But if the rng is poor, it probably wouldnt be difficult to exploit.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 14, 06:24 AM 2021
Precisely Steve, why 2 RNG’s so, different.
Random-org, still gives the average of 1-3-5-7&30 for 60 spins.
R-sim, shows the same. But zigzagging on R-sim for R/B, don’t get caught like on MPR. But if you wait on MPR, say for 3 or 4 spin losses then zigzagging plays ok.
The problem is, R-sim don’t freeze or give extra numbers, like your MPR does.
But, MPR is still ok to test. Did ask many moons ago, if you could have a 10-unit chip, for convenience of betting on outside, as sometimes when in a hurry the mouse might miss click and only 5 units is on.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: The General on Mar 15, 12:57 PM 2021
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 13, 06:13 AM 2021
Why is it harder to win on MPR.

1. Because you can't look forwards and backwards in the spin data, so you can't curve fit the trial like you usually do.
2. You're testing insignificant amounts of data and can't perceive what's random and what's not.
3. You simply don't grasp basic probability and are still trying to side step reality.


Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 13, 06:13 AM 2021If you have zigzag method, say you use brain-dead way, grid 1 and grid 2.

R-sim is easier to win on. MPR well different.

Are they using different Algorithm?

Again, the big problem is you're no longer to look ahead in the data to curve fit, and you're looking at statistically insignificant sample sizes.


Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 17, 03:21 PM 2021
General gormless.
There's only one way to look. look to what's happening in the stream.
In this stream something is not happening enough. Infact it happens twice. Gizmo, might see it.
But you General gormless, not a chance, you're stuck on the search for a wobbley wheel. That's probably where old foxy is.
30 wins
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: Klausy on Mar 18, 12:51 PM 2021
Notto, are you Saint Steve on RSim?
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 19, 04:06 AM 2021
Klausy
Here you see the marquee after it froze. A player Jeanmanno 132 or something like that was on. Not using the ready button, that would piss of Taotie. After the refresh it gives zero, so no colour to bet.

The last spin count is 146 and now saying 161 played spins. But made the +100; that something was not happening. Good. As said to you it doesn't happen that often in a stream.
General gormless won't understand, he's a unicorn hunter.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: Klausy on Mar 19, 05:04 AM 2021
I was asking as if you were Saint Steve, how are you measuring success of your method? Whenever there is a loss, the next bet is doubled up and if that loses it is doubled up again etc etc so how do you know how much of your progress is due to that or your method?

If your method gave you a genuine edge, you could just bet the same amount each spin (regardless of whether it won or lost) and you would expect to see a gradual rise in the long run in proportion to your edge, no?

Ignore this if you aren't Saint Steve on RSim
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 21, 02:09 PM 2021
Klausy/goat
The topic is why is random org so harder to win than at R-sim.
Here win +390 on MPR with its random org numbers.
1x; 35, 2x; 33, 3x; 31, 4x; 26, 5x; 20, 6x; 13, 7x; 4, 8x; 2, 9x; 2, 10x; 2
22 spins just 2 repeats. So, it was going to be a long stream of the touted 1/37.
Yes I use Saint Steve
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: Steve on Jul 21, 08:14 PM 2021
Notto, why are you still wasting time on simulators (and losing) instead of making millions in real casinos?

You aren't beating mpr. All you show are short term results that suit you.

Look notto its your life. Just don't mislead others.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 22, 05:09 AM 2021
Saint
what’s wrong not sold any phones?

Saint what is misleading about the above.
At the poor quality MPR, you know why its poor quality; all the freezing issues extra numbers and even the clock doesn’t count down right; you press ready and I’m only one there and the clock count on, so ready option needs sorting.  But put that aside, with all that, that is wrong its still worth trying things out, but better at R-sim.
The only problem with R-sim repeats is easy for some reason.
Now all I showed was there was 35 numbers hit once, 33 hit twice.
The best part was how only 2#’s kept up at 8 hits, 9, hit and 10 hits.
Nice wins from them.
But the topic is about the 2 RNG’s why random org on MPR is hard, but R-sim wins are easier.
I lost 3000 units trying for repeats but lost because units too big. Came out and won 3000 units on R/B.
Even R/B is different with random org.
So, question is why the difference.
Only time random org is different is if get 1000 numbers from them and then its different to how they show. It is easy to see the method wins, but not on MPR.
Saint you know I only played in UK bookmakers and now it’s not playable with min/max bet of £2
I suppose you’ll say you could win flat bet. Yeah, you’re the expert. Everyone’s saviour.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 22, 05:13 AM 2021
There Saint.
But you carry on preaching instead of making your millions
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 23, 05:42 AM 2021
morning Steve
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: Steve on Jul 23, 05:13 PM 2021
Notto, stop taking it personally. I find it annoying you and others still don't understand basics, but I'm more concerned about how you mislead others into thinking you're beating roulette even with play money. Then you spend tonnes of time attacking me for pointing it out.

Neither rs or mpr are suitable for testing. You still don't understand why.

Yes you're misleading people, and yourself,  with your cherry-picked results.

You didn't answer my question. We both know why, so you direct frustrations me.

If rs is easier than mpr to win at, isn't that a clue?

And i already made my millions long ago.

Again it's your right to delude yourself. But on my forum I'm asking you to stop misleading others with cherry picked results.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 23, 07:18 PM 2021
Wow all that time dreaming up a reply.
You are so sad. You made your millions years ago, don't make me laugh, you and the other top GLOAT haven't got a clue.
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: Winner on Jul 31, 03:14 PM 2021
R sim has gone wacky 21 blacks in a row
Title: Re: Random-org R-sim
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 12, 07:39 AM 2021
Sorry winner just seen your post.
21 blacks no problem.
If your bet was red and lose to the 1st black. Zigzag-now you win all 20 blacks.
That's why you'd take saints 37 reds in a row.