Hey,
I've came across this guy calling himself 'etomino roulette'. He claims to be a pro roulette player, streaming his sessions and putting them on youtube as well.
I've checked him videos and the guy does look to be a pro, although, as we know Roulette beats everyone so take a look and let me know what you think? Pretty interesting videos.
Also, he started a 10% profit a day challenge and is currently on day2. Check the YT vid here /watch?v=wsgmlu5VA4Y&ab_channel=etominoroulette
Would be interesting to see what you guys think of this one?
1. he's not a pro
2. it's your channel, confirm it...
What a difference, since Steve will say it doesn't matter anyway, because such things happen many, many times in millions of spins... :xd:
Quote from: gianfrancopierino on Aug 02, 05:39 PM 2021
1. he's not a pro
2. it's your channel, confirm it...
1. He claims to live off sports betting and roulette. I can neither confirm or deny that. I just found his live roulette vids interesting and wanted to share, see what you guys think. The idea of him playing mainly straight up numbers and sectors, trying to predict the ball bounces using actual data throughout the years seemed interesting to me, that's all.
2. It is not my channel, I'm a big loser in roulette and I'm not touching it ever again..unless I start making significantly more money at my real job
Quote from: belekoks on Aug 02, 11:31 AM 2021
as we know Roulette beats everyone
BTW, if that's true, then it means that I'm a NOBODY and I'm really proud of it! >:D
I had a look. Initially it looked like his bets at least resembled a strategy that could work. But after seeing more of his advice, and how he played, it's apparent he doesn't know what he's talking about. For example: youtu.be/qXvLkc8yhMs?t=206 (typical fallacy).
I'm guessing he's running his channel for Youtube monetization.
I'm not saying he's a scammer. He appears to genuinely believe what he's saying.
How this guy cheating.? Can any one tell me from his videos. "://youtu.be/-zLENmhVCEg"
all the is session (html and video included, not as video file) is saved without playing, the session is replayed, allready knowing the next number, the response of the browser is that you won.
it's the same scam with another user of this forum, manevra something
Its not hard to spot a scam:
rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=26422
Quote from: Steve on Aug 08, 07:31 PM 2021
I had a look. Initially it looked like his bets at least resembled a strategy that could work. But after seeing more of his advice, and how he played, it's apparent he doesn't know what he's talking about. For example: youtu.be/qXvLkc8yhMs?t=206 (typical fallacy).
I'm guessing he's running his channel for Youtube monetization.
I'm not saying he's a scammer. He appears to genuinely believe what he's saying.
What's the fallacy? He looked at the stats, and saw the first dozen was at 20%,and said, "We know that at some point there is gonna be some low numbers coming in to start to break that pattern".
I just went to that same table and checked... the first dozen had indeed started to hit as its now at 32%.
The idea that things balance themselves out over time isn't fallacy. It's fact. If it wasn't there would be a table somewhere where, say, red hit 400 times in a row, or where the first dozen didn't hit for three weeks.
Fallacy comes into play when a gambler pretends that she knows on which spin the shift will occur. But that didn't happen.
He didn't propose a system based on any gamblers fallacy. He didn't even place a bet on the first dozen. His next bet was on the second and third dozens and he won when 29 hit!! 😂
The fact that this guy is willing to verbalize his thought process doesn't mean he "doesn't know what he's talking about".
He isn't promoting or selling a "system" of any sort. He's just documenting his journey. And his journey appears to be on the whole a positive and profitable one that people like me can learn from.
The fact that he makes money from his YouTube videos doesn't hurt his credibility at all.
The constant negativity and dismissive language I see towards any /all roulette play is a little ridiculous. Seriously.
A roulette player worth following is Kon Tiki Roulette, much like others on this forum he has a great understanding of structure and bankroll.
The game play he uses is more of a long term plan.
I also share roulette ideas and have done for a number years now, my game plays are short term, jump on a table do the business get out.
Although I have a great success rate on the games I play, at times I'll not stick to the plan and come unstuck and lose.
Most are of the opinion that roulette is a game that cannot be beat, the focus has to be on the player not the game, understanding a players limitations for example tilt factor, targets and knowing when to stop both when in profit, breaking even or taking a small loss these are more important than coming up with a game idea, most if not all game ideas will work, work I mean will generate a profit of some amount at some point in the game.
Quote from: netpup on Aug 28, 03:02 AM 2021What's the fallacy? He looked at the stats, and saw the first dozen was at 20%,and said, "We know that at some point there is gonna be some low numbers coming in to start to break that pattern".
I just went to that same table and checked... the first dozen had indeed started to hit as its now at 32%.
Asking this question means you dont understand it either.
The issue is the odds of the next spins havent changed. The "balance" from the start point makes no difference. Sure, sometimes a balance will seem to occur. Sometimes it wont occur. But more often than not, it wont occur. Thats the house edge.
If it was as simple as you say, why arent you exploiting it to make millions? It's a very old fallacy.
Quote from: netpup on Aug 28, 03:02 AM 2021The fact that this guy is willing to verbalize his thought process doesn't mean he "doesn't know what he's talking about".
The fact that he's incorrect about the basics indicates he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Quote from: netpup on Aug 28, 03:02 AM 2021The constant negativity and dismissive language I see towards any /all roulette play is a little ridiculous. Seriously.
I'm sorry. Well-tested and proven ineffective methods are great.
Better?
All the roulette player are.... in my opinion.... at the same level if they follow the wheel and not the delay ...in any case the roulette is very hard to beat but with the correct brain, correct selection and correct management bank roll...but IMPORTANT is the brain and the low gain related the % bankroll............
it is correct say that the selection is not valid for the wheel...BUT is correct also that in a lot of session i saw 24 red and more.......28 straight number in 37 spin but it is very very difficult that he wheel hit 37 number in 37 spin....and based on this is possible to play strategy in order to gain ...NOT win but GAIN...it is possible,,,,,is not simple or sure but in my opinion the selection very strong is necessary in order to play with low bankroll...sorry for my bad english...have a anice day all forum :) ;)
Quote from: Steve on Aug 29, 07:01 PM 2021
Asking this question means you dont understand it either.
The issue is the odds of the next spins havent changed. The "balance" from the start point makes no difference. Sure, sometimes a balance will seem to occur. Sometimes it wont occur. But more often than not, it wont occur. Thats the house edge.
If it was as simple as you say, why arent you exploiting it to make millions? It's a very old fallacy.
I get it. And you're right. I wouldn't bet on the first dozen or on 1-18 in this situation. I know that low numbers will EVENTUALLY come. More importantly I get that you cant predict the spin where the low numbers will come, and so my knowledge that low numbers will come has no real use when it comes to placing bets.
My problem was simply this. He simply said low numbers will come. He didn't bet accordingly. He wasn't using a system based on what he said. He just SAID what he said.
If I went into a basketball gym and said, "if I shoot from half court every time, eventually I'll make a shot" and then proceeded to dribble to the basket and dunk instead... Nobody would say, "that guys doesn't know how to play, all he does is shoot from half court".
Maybe the guy is a bad roulette player. I don't think so... But maybe his thinking is way off. That seems to be what you're saying.
And that's fine. Could you just base that on his play and not on things he says that are unrelated to his actual bets? Then I wouldn't think you were being prematurely dismissive.
Thank you for your time and your kind consideration.
His approach is problematic from the start. You cant make a winning system out of such approaches because you're still stuck at random accuracy. It doesnt matter what angle you look at it from.
You need to start by focusing on why one winning number is more likely than another, then thoroughly test your theory over statistically significant spins (cant realistically be done manually).