quiete some time ago there were discussions on the old vls and rouletteforum.net about the pppc bet. one user claimed he had it and gave some hints but did not tell the whole truth. still it seems that his puzzle was finally decrypted.
the important part of the post on vls was later deleted. on rouletteforum.net I guess it's still there. however, I took two screenshots which I have attached here.
i did not test the suggested form of betting and I can't say if it's a real winner. so please regard this post as some information I would like to share with you guys.
cheers
hans
Now something of actual interest.
Thanks Hans.
Hello Hans,
Thanks for sharing !! However, I did followed the post by SE_SAME and at that time I did not think it was the consistent winning bet. But I can be wrong on the consistent winning bet from SE_SAME.
The strategy follows any EC to dozens and or combined dozens with columns and then goes to the corners........ read page 7 of the w3mwebsite, if you have copied it.
The other bet PPPC Bet by Medo, would be the penultimate bet which was being discussed by Medo.
Carlitos 8)
hi carlitos,
the way I understand this is that both posts describe the very same way of betting.
1. bet on last outcome and
2. bet opposite the last outcome and
3. bet decision before last outcome
which I think should be equal to always betting the decision before the last outcome.
but then, as a sort of moneymanagemt part, each bet has its own progression. and this tells you how much to bet.
of course, I might be wrong here ....
cheers
hans
.... so one would end up with 3 z-score's then at the end of playing, as U would need (on paper/tracker (OPHIS!!!) at least) 3 bankrolls, 3 progression lists, and three variant bets to watch over.
Wonder, if U would also vary the bet within a bet too.
Then U could have 3 bets/progressions to start with,
then on a win explode that into 3 x3 bets
then 3 x 3 x 3? bets.
I'll expand later- I have to go shopping now.
Later's dudes as Twangbone would say!
The SE_SAME isn t on 3 Ecs.
Its on 2 Ecs (RB and EO) and on 1 COL. All the decisions are made from the penultimate number and it is using a progression of +1 on L and -1 on W.
And as you can understand it is a COMPLETE LOSER!
Oh! And let s not forget that there aren't any consistent winning bets. It is agains the nature.
Dobidobido is for sure Charles and as other members suggested he should get banned.
If I remember correctly with the medo bet it seems a secondary way to play was to bet ONLY when the "bet within a bet" opportunity occurred - when the color of the opposite to the last and the color of the d.b.l. both tallied eg: after RBR or BRB....
I do not know if it is the real PPPC bet or not.
It does not seem anything too special at all.
If so, I think what is needed is a good progression to play it exclusively the secondary way.
A.
But there is not any real PPPC bet.
and even if there was it would be completely flat betting.
I'm sorry I dont want to stir things up. But why are you guys still looking for that PPPC or CWH Bet??????? The guys is a scam! If there was a bet, do you really think he needed your money?!?
This is what I am telling them Ka2.
If only they knew how much Charles is lauphing at them by reading these Topics they would all stop looking right away!
This is what is going on here:
1)Charles scammed them and took their money.
2)They finaly underatood that there isn t ant consistent winning bet
3)They are still looking for a consistent winning bet!!!!!
If this isn t sickness then what?
Hans, it can be the case that they are talking about the same bett. If thats is the case then i think it would be pen-ultimate bett.
But like i said i was following the SE_SAME bett and got the impression that at first there was somehting to it but later as SE_SAME explained more it wasn't.
VIP, i think it is an hoax too that topic " A LIST OF TESTIMONIES OF THOSE SCAMMED BY WIN 3 MILLION "..... however i would like to have seen that at least Dobidobido would have had the time to say whatever he wanted to say........ it is still sunday........
Carlitos 8)
well, I really don't care too much about the name that is attached to a bet, be it the pppc bet, the xyz bet or the K(iss ) M(y) A(ss) bet. (really no insult intended towards any of the forum members.) as long as it is a good bet it could carry any name at all.
but I also understand that for a lot of us the four letters pppc have a hell of a lot of negative implications - no doubt about that.
cheers
hans
........... as long as it is an woman A (ss), no problem in kissing it :)
Carlitos 8)
Quote from: Carlitos on Dec 12, 07:45 AM 2010
........... as long as it is an woman A (ss), no problem in kissing it :)
Carlitos 8)
Indeed :D
If only the thread was not locked, i would love to hear Dobidobido defending himself. . . . then i would be enlighten to his discovery. . . . .
Anyways, even if w3m was a scam, i think people here still believe there is a bet to beat roulette and we are still seeking it. . . . lol
Someone should make a new post about finding a bet to win in roulette. . . . . we should put all our heads together and brainstorm and see what we can come up with. . . .
Im sure with our knowledge and experiences we can come up with a bet including a plan, money management the whole works. . . . .
Then someone could possibly put it all in word doc . . . . . this would become our manual for playing with intrustions and rules. . . . .
This would be our holy grail. . . . . . !!
There is no bet that can win roulette and you know that TNT and this is why you say "LoL".
But when we say "BET" we always mean a FLAT bet mechanical selection.
If we have to have a Money management inside and other factors then it is no longer a BET . . . itr is a SYSTEM.
I really don't know how you jumped from the "there is no bet" to the "lets all try to find a bet"? :o
....... well if he wants Dobidobido still can post his information here on this topic...... I think Hans wouldn't mind........would you Hans?
He is still welcome as it is still sunday...... or for that matter maybe on another day......
Letts look at it this way, suppose you waitt for 10 spins. How much even changes do you have? 10 X 3 = 30 even changes. Every number has 3 even changes.
Letts say you would only wanting to win 3 times within these 10 spins. 30 EC - 3 = leaves you with 27 EC opportunities left.
Would it be that hard to choosse 3 EC changes within 10 spins out of 30 total even changes? Even if you would change them, it doesn't mean you need to stick to your choice.......
How much changes does one need to pick an winner...............
Carlitos 8)
What i mean is, lets find a way, a method that is 100 percent sure win everytime we play roulette. . . . . This could then be put into a manual for fool proof. . . . its just an idea since every in here has some ideas of their own. . . . if we could put all of our ideas and come up with the best solution then we might have a winner???
Anyways Carlitos, its very interestin what you said. . . . . . but im not sure if i fully understand it. . could u explain more in detail? What is 3 Even chance changes??
i like you new thinking to roulette. . . . . i never thought about it . . . .
Cheerss. . . .
Oh and for Dobidobido, i dont think he would reply. . . . . i hope he would. . . . . i sent him an pm msg. . . . . . . If he doesnt reply. . . . then we know for sure he is not the real deal. . .
"""What I mean is, lets find a way, a method that is 100 percent sure win everytime we play roulette"""
for 400 years all the Roulette players are trying to find this and no one ever could?
Stick around for some years and you will find out the truth.
Im not new to roulette,
Maybe i havent been more specific, my apologies. . . . .
I was saying a method which could win all the time. . . . . meaning it does not need to play long term. . . . . if could even be a 1 or 2 units win every sessions. . . . .
It doesnt need to play every spin. . . . . could wait for triggers. . . . No progression, max bank roll. . . .
Just a way to surely win most of the sessions to keep us ahead and build our profits slowly. . . . in time we could be wealthy maybe in 5 - 7 yrs at least thats a realistic goal
Anyways i dont know why ur laughing? if u dont believe in way or method to winning at roulette i dont know why your here in the 1st place? Unless ur really bored???
@carlitos
would you also kiss that ass if the female kma bet is a loser or would you then reconsider? ;D
I wouldn't mind dobi posting in this thread, of course not. anybody who has some valuable facts or inspiring ideas is more than welcome.
what I'm a bit tired of is the constant complaining that you can't beat roulette because nobody has done it before and because math and even einstein say so. this is why I kindly request all those posters to not post the same argument in this thread again. I really do respect your position and I'll be more than happy if you respect mine/ours.
as this thread seems to lose directions I would like to draw our attention back to the posted screenshots. i think it's remarkable that we now have more then four different opinions what the bet/s is/ are about.
maybe we should try to agree on their meaning first and then move on with our next steps?
cheers
hans
...kma bett....?? Explain, did not get that one...... I only was refering to kissing woman A ( sses) with no attachments....... lol!!
I hope you can see that i having an bit of a run with that woman A ( ss ) kissing thing....... Just practical joking....... lol!!
TNT, 36 or any number must have 3 even changes. 36 = Red, = High = Even. Take 10 spins and you will have 10 X 3 even changes = 30 even changes or 30 opportunities to pick an even change winner.
By the way, iam only talking about even changes.
Would it be hard thing to do to pick 3 winners out of 30 opportunnities......? Using, if necessary, 3 or 4 step progression.
Its just an idea on how to read the game..... We know that within 10 spins an even change can not appear or does appear. Just think about 10 blacks or reds. We also know that some even changes will add up.
Appearing 3 or 4 times etc...... Some even changes follow 2 times in an row or more...... If we would analize all the things that happen within 10 spins could we not have enough information on which we would be able to select 3 winners within 10 spins......
Carlitos 8)
"""I was saying a method which could win all the time. . . . . meaning it does not need to play long term. . . . . if could even be a 1 or 2 units win every sessions. . . . .
It doesn't need to play every spin. . . . . could wait for triggers. . . . No progression, max bankroll. . . . """"
This what you just described IT IS THE LONG TERM! :)
What i mean is having long sessions.......of course it should win long term, if not then there no point?
Quote from: VIP on Dec 12, 10:06 AM 2010
"""What I mean is, lets find a way, a method that is 100 percent sure win everytime we play roulette"""
for 400 years all the Roulette players are trying to find this and no one ever could?
Stick around for some years and you will find out the truth.
And for 3 years you are,like a parrot,repeating the same thing.
Find then a new hobby/play a chess for instance/and let this forum users
at peace.Christhmass or not would always vote to ban you Jordan.
this bet example reminds me of F_LAT_INO's Random vs Random strategy
Quote from: iggiv on Dec 12, 04:20 PM 2010
this bet example reminds me of F_LAT_INO's Random vs Random strategy
Nice that you have noticed iggiv,and se_same and medo are same persons and the bet......is there and here.and btw FLAT_IN_O is theirs bro.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Dec 12, 05:09 PM 2010
Nice that you have noticed iggiv,and se_same and medo are same persons and the bet......is there and here.and by the way FLAT_IN_O is theirs bro.
well, in my opinion there could be really something in it, it is NOT TABLE BASED bet
Thanks iggiv and F_LAT_INO for returning to the actual toppic of this thread.
F_LAT_INO, just to make sure that I understood correctly:
1.you say that medo and se_same are the same person, which I was somehow suspecting myself.
2. it is the same bet they are talking about. and the bet is based on the random vs. random concept.
3. and this last thing really gets me confused. you say that it is you who stands behind the usernames medo and se_same? ???
please feel free to correct any misunderstanding that might be on my side.
cheers
hans
I have also noticed that FLAT_INO is very similar to medo at VLS, I thought that he was both. Maybe I'm wrong..