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Title: Roulette tournaments
Post by: FreeRoulette on Dec 12, 09:41 PM 2010
I was wondering if there were any roulette tournaments at casinos where you buy in like a poker tournament and play against other players.  Last player with money gets it all. 
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 12, 10:08 PM 2010
English Harbor Group (Silver Dollar, Super Slots, VIP Slots) has a weekly RNG American Roulette tournament.  "The Wheel Deal" costs $2.50 to enter (per casino, if you wish multiple entries) and you get $50 to play with.  Rebuys are $2.50 each (you get another $50 to play with) The competition lasts six days.  First place winners get 75% of their total score.  Second place gets 25% of their score.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 17, 07:54 AM 2011
Thought this might be of interest with the new systems around.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Boul Dous on Apr 20, 07:33 PM 2011
The idea seems kinda odd to me.  Since with roulette you aren't competing with one another and could care less what another player is doing unless he's winning all the time and you're losing. 
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 20, 09:31 PM 2011
Traditionally you are right.  I noticed however with the contest you can see how well others are doing in comparison.  You start with a $50 bank and grow it as high as you can. (I've seen people with $10,000+ balances in past tournaments.)
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: futured on May 14, 01:27 AM 2011
hey it is very good idea for tournaments.  It will very
exciting and and help for finding the best players among
all. It will provide opportunity for Online Roulette for Money
and will famous fast.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: iggiv on May 15, 11:09 PM 2011
Traditionally you are right.  I noticed however with the contest you can see how well others are doing in comparison.  You start with a $50 bank and grow it as high as you can. (I've seen people with $10,000+ balances in past tournaments.)


to be banned from  casinos after ?  ;D
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on May 16, 06:56 AM 2011
Possibly, but from what I can see, players may re-buy another $50 bankroll.  If enough players re-buy frequently enough, there's enough money to payoff the big winners (and make a tidy profit for the casinos).
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: iggiv on May 16, 05:20 PM 2011
and find out who is capable to screw them up to get rid of them afterwards  :wink:
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on May 16, 05:41 PM 2011
You win Iggiv.

There was one player that stands out.  His name was "Bagobucks" who had $15,000 (the highest score I'd ever seen in the tournament).  I wonder if it is the same Bago from RoulettePlace?
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: MrJ on May 16, 09:38 PM 2011
I did a thread on this before. In regards to a B&M casino, NOT on-line.

The information I would like to see......what was the METHOD used for past winners of tournaments? Thats what I want to know.

Ken
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on May 16, 09:57 PM 2011
That's originally why I started this thread.  If any method from RF.cc could win like that
($15,000 from $50 in six days.)
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: iggiv on May 16, 11:01 PM 2011
why u guys talking only ONE METHOD? sorry, i don't wanna  pretend i am smarter than u or sound arrogant, but talking only one method is like a perfect example of ' tunnel vision', isn't it?
there could be different methods the winner used. And it is very possible he won't be able to use them at least in this casino anymore :)
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on May 24, 02:19 AM 2011
Hey guys, I found a free Roulette tournament at Oddsmaker (Casino, Tournament) section.  Prize pool isn't much ($20), but it is a way to test a system (and win money if it works!)
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: chrisbis on May 24, 04:37 AM 2011
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Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Mar 30, 02:06 AM 2021
Considering that this is one of the most interesting threads on this forum, I thought that it would be appropriate to refreshing it so that other users could also find out about its existence.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: carvigno on Mar 30, 03:13 AM 2021
Those tournaments are for losers or idiots. How is it if you have a winning method to beat roulette you entering these tournaments? What pourpose? To get banned afterwards?
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Mar 30, 04:41 AM 2021
Those tournaments are for losers or idiots. How is it if you have a winning method to beat roulette you entering these tournaments? What pourpose? To get banned afterwards?

For example, I would propose changing a bit the form of action, instead of denying the sense of the whole idea.

There are many possibilities, and many people have different approaches and goals.

Think about this how you would like it to exactly look like so that yourself would want to participate in such an event.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: carvigno on Mar 30, 05:41 AM 2021
There are many possibilities, and many people have different approaches and goals.

Think about this how you would like it to exactly look like so that yourself would want to participate in such an event.

I do believe there are only two possibilities, two approaches to the game. You play for fun or you play for business.
If you play for fun,  well, you invest to have a good time. You may lose more or less, win sometimes, but you will lose your bankroll sooner or later. When playing for fun, luck is involved.
If you take it as a business it's because you have a plan (a winning strategy and money managment, primarily flat betting) that let you win consistently , meaning sometimes you'll lose your stop loss target but many times you'll win your win goal target. When playing for business, luck is not present in the equation.

So, for somebody playing for business there is no incentive playing such tournaments, to prove what to who?, yourself? casino managment?. No point there. You play conventional game, take your money and leave when you hit your win goal,  or quit if you reach your stop loss amount. And dont be greedy, stay under the radar. Casinos dont like winners.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Mar 30, 07:18 AM 2021
I do believe there are only two possibilities, two approaches to the game. You play for fun or you play for business.
If you play for fun,  well, you invest to have a good time. You may lose more or less, win sometimes, but you will lose your bankroll sooner or later. When playing for fun, luck is involved.
If you take it as a business it's because you have a plan (a winning strategy and money managment, primarily flat betting) that let you win consistently , meaning sometimes you'll lose your stop loss target but many times you'll win your win goal target. When playing for business, luck is not present in the equation.

So, for somebody playing for business there is no incentive playing such tournaments, to prove what to who?, yourself? casino managment?. No point there. You play conventional game, take your money and leave when you hit your win goal,  or quit if you reach your stop loss amount. And dont be greedy, stay under the radar. Casinos dont like winners.

The greatest cause of motivation may just be the desire of competition/rivalry to prove that YOU ARE THE BEST ROULETTE PLAYER.

So it doesn't have to be fun or business, but the POTENTIAL satisfaction of resulting from the fact that you having turned out to be the best.

Theoretically, you could call it a kind of fun, but I wouldn't call it that, because if you lose, you will feel a huge failure and waste of time, so then it won't be fun for you but on the contrary...
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: carvigno on Mar 30, 07:45 AM 2021
Ares, if you are in need of trophis, hugs and pats on your back, good for you.
All I need is to earn money playing roulette and stay under the radar as I said in last post.
No discussion should be here.
You made a point of what you want/need and the same applies for me. Just that.

Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Mar 30, 08:11 AM 2021
Ares, if you are in need of trophis, hugs and pats on your back, good for you.
All I need is to earn money playing roulette and stay under the radar as I said in last post.
No discussion should be here.
You made a point of what you want/need and the same applies for me. Just that.

This means that there was a misunderstanding because it's not about what I want or need...

 Everything what I wrote in my previous post is just the substantiation for this my sentence:

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There are many possibilities, and many people have different approaches and goals.

Because you later wrote that:

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I do believe there are only two possibilities, two approaches to the game. You play for fun or you play for business.

- So I proved only that your belief is wrong/false and that's all.  :)

Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: carvigno on Mar 30, 08:35 AM 2021
- So I proved only that your belief is wrong/false and that's all.  :)

You havent proved anything. All you have proved is what you think about this issue.
The same can be applied to my argument.

One falls into one of these groups: recreational player or professional player. There are no ambiguities.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Mar 30, 08:52 AM 2021
You havent proved anything. All you have proved is what you think about this issue.
The same can be applied to my argument.

One falls into one of these groups: recreational player or professional player. There are no ambiguities.

It's true that there is no ambiguities, because I gave you a clear example of a situation where the reason for your game IS NOT fun or business but something completely different, so in that way I proved that you can't be right when you say that there are only this two possibilities, AND of course that's not all, if you want, I can give you next example of such a situation.  :)
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: carvigno on Mar 30, 09:05 AM 2021
If you are not able to understand what im talking about then you fall into the group of recreational player.
A professional player would understand what i say.
I hope you are not offended. I'm only stating a fact.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Mar 30, 09:18 AM 2021
If you are not able to understand what im talking about then you fall into the group of recreational player.
A professional player would understand what i say.
I hope you are not offended. I'm only stating a fact.

Again, you are wrong (or deliberately lying) because then you didn't write about "recreational and professional" gaming, because then I wouldn't say that you're wrong because "recreational and professional" gaming it's too general a concepts.

You wrote exactly this:

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I do believe there are only two possibilities, two approaches to the game. You play for fun or you play for business.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: carvigno on Mar 30, 09:40 AM 2021
Recreational player only wins when hes lucky,
Professional player wins coz he knows what to bet and when to bet. Hes profits from windows that presents themselves to achive optimun results. Hes doesnt need to be lucky to win, 
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Mar 30, 09:55 AM 2021
Recreational player only wins when hes lucky,
Professional player wins coz he knows what to bet and when to bet. Hes profits from windows that presents themselves to achive optimun results. Hes doesnt need to be lucky to win,

Okay, but you know that for example Steve would say now that someone like "professional player" just can't exist because the casino always has an edge, right? :D

- Of course, apart from playing with his super devices, BUT I don't know if it's a good idea to call illegal practices a professional approach...  :twisted:

Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: carvigno on Mar 30, 10:49 AM 2021
Now the discussion has turned to another topic.
Steve argues that his position is correct because it is based on absolute mathematics.
From that point of view he is right.

The point is that winning at roulette has nothing to do with that kind of math.
Besides, It is not necessary to use electronic means to defeat the game.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Mar 30, 01:15 PM 2021
Now the discussion has turned to another topic.
Steve argues that his position is correct because it is based on absolute mathematics.
From that point of view he is right.

The point is that winning at roulette has nothing to do with that kind of math.
Besides, It is not necessary to use electronic means to defeat the game.

The discussion turned to a slightly different topic, because it's a simply consequence to what you wrote.

It's obvious that recreational playing is not the same as playing only for fun, EVEN by your definition of recreational playing.

If Steve claims that it's impossible to winning in the long-term game without using special devices (or derived methods), then it means that he's right OR not.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: carvigno on Mar 30, 01:39 PM 2021
Well, you can have the last words.
No way i keep on discussing this subject.
Good luck at the tables. ::)
Cheers.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Mar 30, 02:05 PM 2021
If you don't want to continue the discussion, it's no problem! :)

Cheers.

Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: game over on Mar 30, 09:05 PM 2021
Hello!!
In which casino are these tournaments?
It sounds interesting and I would be happy to sign up, to see where I could find myself among the best.
Players from Spain can play?

Hector
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: FreeRoulette on May 09, 10:38 PM 2021
If they had a casino tournament in a live casino, if the buy in was low, then I would play for fun and probably try things that I would never normally do. I don't think a professional roulette player would win the tournament because they don't play for a billion dollars, they seem to aim for consistency playing for small wins over a short time and moving on.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Taotie on May 10, 03:14 AM 2021

I've played in these live tournaments at b&m casinos. They are a lot of fun, and work in round robin format.  You must win your heats to progress to each new round or finals.

The goal is not to prove a point or grow a bankroll, it's to win prize money.

In the end most tournaments I've been involved in end up more of a poker match than a roulette game.

The closing stages of the tournament becomes very strategic. If you're behind you must throw caution to the wind and bet as late as possible in an attempt to make a big win without your opponent mimicking the bet. If you're well in front with only a handful of spins remaining then you mimic your opponents bets as much as possible to stay in front and claim the prize.

Win or lose, it's good fun.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: FreeRoulette on May 10, 04:24 PM 2021
Its you against one other person in a final roulette tournament for a million dollars. You each get 1,000 chips with no buy in. The wheel will spin 100 times. The player with the most money at the end wins, in the event of a tie, no one wins. There is one wheel, you are each in a separate room on a table by yourself. For this match, there are no table limits and you will not get to know the other players chip amount until the end. What is your strategy?
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Taotie on May 11, 06:59 AM 2021
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: FreeRoulette on May 11, 09:12 AM 2021
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
Okay, spill the beans
Title: Re: Roulette tournaments
Post by: Ares289 on Jul 31, 08:00 PM 2021
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The goal of roulette tournaments.

Roulette tournaments are meant to reward initiative, competitiveness and strategic thinking. What is more, to astute players such events are another source to bolster their bankroll. It is why experienced players do not just rely on luck at tournaments. Instead, they always attempt to utilize one or several advanced playing strategies.

Despite that, traditionally, the game of roulette is played against the casino, roulette tournaments emphasize on competition between participants. In case one plays roulette against the house, his/her objective is to earn money during every single round he/she bets on, so that at the end of the play session his/her gains surpass his/her losses. Or, the player strives to achieve a positive balance in comparison with the amount he/she invested.

When participating in a tournament, however, that is not exactly the case. Every tournament is comprised by a predetermined number of rounds, while every participant in it is provided with a stack of chips and needs to conform to preset time or spin limits. The ultimate objective of a tournament player is to amass as many chips as possible during each round and, at the end of the event, to be the person in possession of the greatest stack of chips.

How tournaments are organized?

In order to sign up for a particular event, one needs to check a list of all tournaments in a tournament lobby, which will be available ahead of time. This way he/she will be able to select the event, which best suits his/her budget. When joining a particular tournament, apart from the entry fee, every player needs to take into account the payout structure offered by that event.

In many cases tournaments are held in a winner-takes-all format. Other events usually provide awards to participants who qualified on top positions, or these tournaments make use of a tiered structure. Regardless of that tournaments have a different format compared to an ordinary game of roulette, table minimums and table maximums usually conform to the rules of the traditional game.

In the past few years roulette tournaments, which are held in an online environment, caught the attention of players on a global scale. At times, events promoted by different online casinos may have a bit different structure, but in the common case, a similar structure is followed, which requires a buy-in fee, so that one can take part in the particular event. Every tournament is usually set to last for a predetermined amount of time. Such an event may last for a week, while all participants are to play on a daily basis. On the other hand, such an event may last for a month, and participants are to play one or two times each week.

At the beginning of the event, all participants will be provided with one and the same amount of chips. In some cases this amount may be arbitrary and none of the players will be able to cash his/her chips, as the tournament develops. Other casinos may organize their tournaments in another way, the value of all chips a player receives will correspond to the buy-in fee, while every participant is to freely decide when to stop playing and cash his/her chips. He/she is able to do that at any stage of the event.

At some online casinos, tournaments feature a number of rounds, while only players who qualify on top positions during the prior round can advance to the next one until a handful of players manage to reach the tournament final. Other casinos may organize their events in a way so that all players can take part in several rounds, while only the top qualifiers can participate in the final round.

All contenders are provided with a certain amount of playing time in every round. This way competition on an uneven basis is avoided, which means that no participant will have a longer time to play and, respectively, amass a larger amount of chips.

In order to keep track of his/her ranking in the tournament, a player will usually have access to a leader board. At some online casinos such a leader board will be featured in the casino software they provide, while at others, it will be shown on their own website.

How to deal with the competition?

In order to accumulate the largest amount of chips, a player needs to use a variety of bet types and bet sizes at key stages of the event. A key moment, when one creates a strategy for the tournament, is to track the chip count of other participants on each ball spin. Once a player is well aware of what his/her chips look like compared to those of other contenders, he/she may use different bet sizes, depending on the size of his/her stack.

In case the player has a lead, then it may be more logical if he/she continues with small wagers, while the competition attempts to cut short the distance. On the other hand, if the player falls behind in his/her chips, he/she may prefer to bet as much as he/she can afford.

According to some experts, if one is to take the lead at online roulette tournaments, he/she needs to concentrate his/her efforts on outside bets (combining column bets, dozens, and bets on even/odd numbers). Others propose a different opinion, to claim the lead, a player needs to place several large-sized inside bets and to hope that one of them will provide a flabbergasting 35 to 1 payoff.

We should stress that the type of bets, which a player uses, depends solely on how the event is structured. In case the tournament he/she attends has a predetermined number of spins in every round, the player will probably be urged to bet more aggressively. If the tournament features a certain time limit, during which the player is able to participate in as many or as few ball spins as he/she desires, then perhaps, he/she will prefer to use a more conservative approach.

It is also worth noting that cheating will not work at online events.

In conclusion, in order to emerge as a winner in a roulette tournament, one needs to use a strategic approach instead of luck, to be flexible and adapt to changes and, last but not least, to outmaneuver other competitors. If one manages to best the competition with skill-based moves and cunning decisions, then a game of chance, such as roulette, may turn into an excellent way to bolster his/her bankroll.