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BetVoyager Casino: A review by Thomas R. Grant
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I have been using BetVoyager for some time now.
So here is my view of them.
BetVoyager Casino is not a well know casino.
The most popular Online casinos are those that use the playtech platform.
EuroGrand, Casino.com and others.
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BetVoyager has some support.
Though it has a phone number to call.
I would never recommend it.
As I am not sure they speak English all that well.
The best way to contact them is via there internal email.
I have tried calling the number.
Just found it difficult to get through.
And difficult for me to get them to understand what I was saying.
This is there standard European Roulette Table.
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But what sets BetVoyager apart from the rest of the casinos is.
The NO ZERO table.
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Only one on the internet.
Well... the only one worth using.
I did here that may be one or two others out there.
But not as good as BetVoyager.
The table limits have changed since I first joined.
Plus they have started to charge 10% on withdraws from no house games.
Well sometimes they charge 10%.
There a bit odd at times.
The best table to play is the standard European Roulette table.
It has amazing table limits.
$0.01 to $1000
BetVoyager does have some down sides.
Communication with support is not that fantastic.
Affiliate commissions for BetVoyager are a joke.
The site gets maintenance done to it.
And when this happens.
You can't play.
Or login.
Or do much at all..
You can get loss of connection.
Or other errors.
Things like Sync errors.
I used to get them all the time.
They drove me mad.
Apart from all that.
BetVoyager has become my all time favorite casino to play at.
Another feature I really like... is there fast payouts.
They can payout faster than any other casino on the internet.
While most casinos take about 5 business days for money to show up in your payout account.
BetVoyager can take up to 24 hrs.
I have seen it take as long as 3 days.
But my personal best time was 5 minutes.
That's right.
I put in a withdraw request in.
On the site.
5 minutes later it was in my Neteller account.
Must of got them when they were doing there accounting.
Because that is a world record time for a payout.
Just amazing.
I have never had any issues with BetVoyager.
Appart from the ones mentioned.
Like the sync errors.
Or the time outs.
It seems to be one of the more honest, stable and consistent casinos online.
Recently I have assisted a few hapless Americans with money transfers into BetVoyager.
Since they seem capable of at least opening an account at BetVoyager.
But find it difficult to fund it.
Anyway...
I like em... 8) :-* :) :thumbsup:
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Some people have asked me what are all the numbers and other stuff on the table.
My answer is...
I don't know.
Well... that is not exactly true.
I think they have to do with the random generator they use.
Not 100% sure.
My suggestion is to just ask them.
Or do some research.
And find out your self.
I don't particularly care about these things.
That is not my main concern.
My main concern is trying to win.
Good luck.
PS: Both Roulette Bot Pro and Super Roulette can play Automatically on No Zero and the other European casino tables.
PPS: Ohh and now RSS and RSS Pro can as well.
(Took me a while to convince Admin to add it in.)
See my tutorials for more info.
Bayes posted this. On BetVoyager randomness.
link:://rouletteforum.cc/online-gaming/betvoyager's-randomness-control-feature/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/online-gaming/betvoyager's-randomness-control-feature/)
Hi Thomas
Thank you for your review. I do hold an account at BV but for some reason I don't play there all that often.
But after seeing the spread of 0.01 to 1000 I think I'll be taking a closer look
Thanks again.
Another new feature:
They give you a 7% per year on your account >100 Euro/Dollars daily payout
so donÃ,´t forget to erase the 3rd, 4th 5th number of your bankroll before you start to play otherwise it would give you an error.
e.g. account 150,12345 erase 345 before you opgen the table:
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winkel
Cant login again.
Session logout.
Server maintenance.
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Great post Thomas
Thanks again for all you have done for me(money transactions)
Couldn't have done it without you!
Quote from: ThomasGrant on Feb 17, 12:33 AM 2011
Can't login again.
Session logout.
Server maintenance.
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That problem comes often. It's not about maintenance I think. I don't know why I keep getting it.
But I run the casino in compability mode for windows xp and then it works without these problems..
For the most part, I play in the browser.
Maintenance has a totally different screen, and uses the word 'maintenance' in the message.
Betvoyager ia although an honest casino so far as its RNG and withdrawals are concerned. Its no zero roulette is also very unique and only one other casino has this. You can play roulette with 1 cent mnimum even on ECs and ECs max limit is Euro 1000.This way, they have great bet spread too. But this casino's customer support is very bad and slow, you can't use the chat to talk to customer care representatives. Softwares are of very poor quality and roulette wheel often hangs. The site remains disturbed daily on one pretext or other. Those willing to play with penny(for GBP account) roulette with nice bet spread, should go for skyvegas rather. Betvoyager doesn't have live dealer roulette either. Slot games are very dull too.
I am doing ratings of finest online casinos-RNG and live, Non-US as well as US players accepting casinos in my exclusive section. I hope that should help u all.
Despite what albalaha has said.
I still prefer it over SkyVegas.
I just do not like that casino at all.
But you can voice your opinion.
Dear Thomas,
I have just given my opinion and not any verdict. My opinion is based upon facts and not emotions. Betvoyager is also there in my list of the finest casinos.
I still find it amazing that most of you will continue to play on RNG roulette games instead of live wheel sites.
And then when I think about it, most of you have access to many more live wheel games than we do in the Colonies so I don't understand the appeal of playing the RNG wheels.
AD
As a fellow colonialist, I have been frustrated by the lack of available wheels near me (SE Georgia). I opened an account through surreptitious means at BV on January 27th (3 1/2 weeks ago). I have yet to see the maintenance screen, although I don't get to play nearly as often as I would like. That being the case, I am even more impressed with the fair results that I have gotten from the RNG at BV: I am up 1,453 units playing my Eggleston betting method there. I have played exactly 67 sessions, according to my record keeping, meaning I average a gain of 21.xx units every session, each lasting about 75-100 spins. I love the casino that pays me well, and don't really care too much about the quality of their graphics. I just wish I could find a better way to repatriate my money after the wins. ???
Quote from: Colbster on Feb 20, 09:37 AM 2011
I have played exactly 67 sessions, according to my record keeping, meaning I average a gain of 21.xx units every session, each lasting about 75-100 spins.
Most excellent. Well done!
AD
Quote from: ADulay on Feb 20, 09:22 AM 2011
I still find it amazing that most of you will continue to play on RNG roulette games instead of live wheel sites.
And then when I think about it, most of you have access to many more live wheel games than we do in the Colonies so I don't understand the appeal of playing the RNG wheels.
AD
Hmmm....
Many prefer Live wheel games.
They consider them to be fair.
I get that a great deal.
Why play RNG?
Why not play live?
RNG is faster.
And based on RNG.
Random number generator.
I have played Live. (Dublin Bet, Playtech Live)
I have played RNG.
Very fortunate to be able to play almost anywhere.
On nearly any casino online that is.
Personally, I don't see the difference.
It's all about the system, the bank balance.
Good money management.
And a great deal of luck.
Especially the last part.
LUCK...
Do you fell lucky punk? Well do ya? (Dirty Harry) Clint Eastwood
WELL DO YA?
I'm winning at BV. ;)
Looks like BetVoyager has updated the software again.
Just to screw us around.
No more mutually exclusive bets.
So you can't just put down red and black to get a free spin.
Looks like you have to exclude this.
And just put bets on Red or Black.
And get a spin.
This seems to be for all tables.
I suppose if we all complain about this.
Then and only then, will BV take notice. (Maybe but I don't think so.)
And revert it back. (Seriously doubt that they will do anything)
Hmmm....
Lame...
The march of progress.
Making it harder for us to play.
PS: I had trouble logging into my account with the software.
Kept on coming up with session timed out.
So I downloaded it again.
And it worked.
This is an email I sent to them.
QuoteOhh dear...
Such a shame.
I liked to play on BetVoyager No Zero Table.
And even started to like to play at BetVoyager Single 0 table.
Now... with the no mutually exclusive bets that has come into affect. I can no longer get free spins.
To judge or to accumulate data for playing.
This is a major upset for many players that I have sent to BetVoyager.
Perhaps a rethink of this non mutually exclusive bets would be a good idea.
Otherwise...
I may have to go elsewhere and play.
Quote from: ThomasGrant on Mar 16, 09:44 AM 2011
This is an email I sent to them.
Come on Thomas,
what is the problem betting Red and Black with 1ct as waiting-bet?
Quote from: winkel on Mar 16, 10:33 AM 2011
Come on Thomas,
what is the problem betting Red and Black with 1ct as waiting-bet?
Winkel...
The two main software that I use.
Roulette Bot Pro
Super Roulette
Both put a bet on Red and Black then spin.
Even my software I wrote has this in.
Now it looks like both RBP and SR have to be updated again.
And updates seem to take for ever.
I can rewrite my script easy enough.
But what for.
You can spin for free at most Playtech RNG casinos.
Just a waste.
QuoteDate: 16.03.2011 14:13:54
Project: BetVoyager
From: Support
Subject: RE: mutually exclusive bets
Dear ThomasGrant,
The game is conducted on a standard table with a single zero.
Bets are placed using chips. Bets can not be mutually exclusive.
All the game?s bets can be divided into two classes: field bets and track bets.
News Link : link:s://:.betcruise.com/news/ (link:s://:.betcruise.com/news/)
Please contact us back if you have any questions.
Thanks for contacting us!
The BetVoyager Support Team
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date:2011-03-16 13:43:44
subject:mutually exclusive bets
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Ohh dear...
Such a shame.
I liked to play on BetVoyager No Zero Table.
And even started to like to play at BetVoyager Single 0 table.
Now... with the no mutually exclusive bets that has come into affect. I can no longer get free spins.
To judge or to accumulate data for playing.
This is a major upset for many players that I have sent to BetVoyager.
Perhaps a rethink of this non mutually exclusive bets would be a good idea.
Otherwise...
I may have to go elsewhere and play.
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@Tom
That Link- Bet Cruise.com/news/ has no mention of anything to do with Mutually Exclusive bets??
What the Frig are they talking about??
I sure hope they change there mind, or lots of players will leave BV casino (Voyager)
Have U read there rules Tom?
They tie themselves in lots of knots by showing 3 chips on the three columns, and talk about that there are Three Dozens to bet On!!
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Talk about confusion eh?
Yes Chris.
I did read the news.
No mention of the bets.
I think this is a recent addition.
Email them and complain.
The more complaints they get.
The more they may change their mind.
Thomas: it's pretty obvious BV didn't read your email carefully. :(
Or if they did, they just don't care what you other others think, and they'll continue with the change and stick two fingers up to everyone who complains.
And yes, my first thought was for all the bot users and the hassles that lie ahead for modifying their bot software...
Makes me wonder if it's all worth it...
QuoteDate: 16.03.2011 16:13:49
Project: BetCruise
From: Support
Subject: RE: RE: RE: mutually exclusive bets
Dear ThomasGrant,
Thank you for your comment.
We are considering the new policy and the reactions from our loyal players.
Thanks for your understanding.
Thanks for contacting us!
The BetCruise Support Team
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date:2011-03-16 15:24:16
subject:RE: RE: mutually exclusive bets
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Well, why the change?
I use to be able to make mutually exclusive bets to get a free spin on the no zero table.
I would place a bet on red and black and then spin.
You had this in place a long time.
Why the change now?
I think you will get a great deal of complaints about this.
Quote from: esoito on Mar 16, 07:23 PM 2011
Thomas: it's pretty obvious BV didn't read your email carefully. :(
Or if they did, they just don't care what you other others think, and they'll continue with the change and stick two fingers up to everyone who complains.
And yes, my first thought was for all the bot users and the hassles that lie ahead for modifying their bot software...
Makes me wonder if it's all worth it...
Well read the above note.
The more people complain.
Then they may change it back.
The more people that complain.
The greater the chance that they may, just may change it back.
So start sending emails TODAY.
Hmmmm...that second reply of theirs looks more promising.
I'll send them an email right away!
Quote from: esoito on Mar 16, 07:47 PM 2011
Hmmmm...that second reply of theirs looks more promising.
I'll send them an email right away!
Looks like you will get the same response.
This is from Matt of SR.
QuoteDear Matt,
Thanks for contacting us!
Thank you for your comment.
We are considering the new policy and the reactions from our loyal players.
Regards,
The BetVoyager Support Team
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date:2011-03-16 21:22:22
subject:Mutually Exclusive Betting
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Hi, can you please advise why the ability to place mutually exclusive bets has been removed? I understand you are trying to prevent tracking of numbers before a bet is placed, but surely this is an extreme measure. Even at land based casinos you can play red/black or even not bet at all and simply wait until you wish to place a bet.
I have been a loyal member of your casino but I will not play here anymore unless you revert it back to how it was and I know many others will do the same.
Kind Regards
Matt
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That's the same message I got.
Looks like it may end up being the generic response to these complaints from members.
But will it change things?
If it does...
Then it shows we can change their minds.
And if that is the case.
Well... perhaps we could ask them to revert the no zero table back to it's original table limits.
Then again... that may be asking to much.
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Here's the reply I've received:
Thank you for your comment.
We are considering the new policy and the reactions from our loyal players.
Regards,
The BetVoyager Support Team
......and here's Todays reply from Bv
( I seem to have sent them an email everyday this week after the discovery of the rule changes, and it doesn't stop there-see my next message/question)
BV reply to my question on Rules.
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..............my follow up question on today's discovery.
Did I U know that:-
BV HAS REDUCED THE TABLE LIMITS ON DOZENS & COLUMNS?
Was 100 Euro.
Now Reduced to 60 Euro.........(40 % reduction)
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Thomas,
In an earlier post, you mentioned that Betvoyager had raised their minimums on no zero roulette. What are the minimums?
Thanks,
George
Quote from: GLC on Mar 17, 11:42 PM 2011
Thomas,
In an earlier post, you mentioned that Betvoyager had raised their minimums on no zero roulette. What are the minimums?
Thanks,
George
Err...
I think you got that message wrong.
Not raised.
Both tables for Zero and No Zero where at one time the same.
No Zero lowered the table limits sometime ago.
Max is 0.01 to 100 or 10 on a single number for No Zero table.
Where it is still 0.01 to 1000 or to 100 on a single number on a Zero table with the house edge.
Please keep sending BetVoyager emails about this stupid "non exclusive bets".
Note. *should say:- 'Type' instead of 'Time' in the message.
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Just take a look at this lame response.
QuoteDear, ThomasGrant
We would like to thank you for your interest towards BetVoyager.
Well I did warn you that they may not do anything.
Keep pestering them.
Keep emailing them.
The more members that complain.
The greater the chance that they may change it back.
But after reading the last email they sent me.
I seriously doubt it.
I'm seriously wondering if they've made these changes because of the bots.
You took an awful lot of money from them a while back -- I clearly recall your regular updates on your amazing progress! :thumbsup:
Lots of other bots with the "right" settings (the secret to success) will also be sucking in the casino's cash.
They're not going to tolerate that sort of haemorrhaging indefinitely.
So in a classic pincer movement they've:
* cut out the free spins (bots rely on those)
* messed around with limits (makes the bots' progressions less viable)
To every attack there's a counter-attack...and they've done it in spades. And I predict more upsets to follow... :(
Quote from: esoito on Mar 18, 07:22 PM 2011
I'm seriously wondering if they've made these changes because of the bots.
You took an awful lot of money from them a while back -- I clearly recall your regular updates on your amazing progress! :thumbsup:
Lots of other bots with the "right" settings (the secret to success) will also be sucking in the casino's cash.
They're not going to tolerate that sort of haemorrhaging indefinitely.
So in a classic pincer movement they've:
* cut out the free spins (bots rely on those)
* messed around with limits (makes the bots' progressions less viable)
To every attack there's a counter-attack...and they've done it in spades. And I predict more upsets to follow... :(
I think you hit the nail on the head there Esoito. Bots have the potential of winning large amounts in the shortest possible period of time without any human emotions involved. I personally know a team of roulette players using their bot and they are consistently raking in a substantial amount. Casinos are not going to tolerate it and will implement measures to counter act possible known winning methods/bots etc.
thats what i think esioto,
if they are losing money from bots then they are going to change it arent they.
after all if it keeps happening they will go bust. personaly i dont believe the mutual bets were removed from there to stop tracking, more likely to stop bots. but in saying that have the bots bet .01 cents.
maybe they are fair and still are but its not fair if people are using bots to exploit them. anyway i dont see the big deal with the mutual bets.
you can still bet 0.01 cents, so what if the rules for the no zero has change, if it wins there it will win in the 0 games.
they wont change it cause they will go bust if they do.
This suggestion may sound a bit daft because I have not really thought it through but here goes anyhow! :xd:
Could you not use 2 bots at the same time with one playing the opposite of the other!
Yes U can.
2 bots, 2 different systems.
John.
Can U change Ur avatar- its quite offensive for Public viewing.?
This is not a private club as U may think it, its a publicly viewed Forum.
Could the 2 bots not play the same system. The only difference would be that when there was no 'proper' bet, the bots would play the opposite even chance. It sounds logical but I wonder how practical it is.
Non of that makes any sense John.
2 bots playing same system, but then they play a different system?
Not quite with u there.
Are have changed it- thanx. :thumbsup:
It makes sense to me, lol.
It seems the main problem is you are not allowed to 'sit out spins' by betting red and black or any mutually exclusive bets at the same time. Well you could have 2 bots playing when it is time to 'sit out spins'.
One would be playing red and the other playing black.
When the time comes to place a bet, one of the bots would then take over and play whatever bet you wished.
Maybe I just don't understand bots and how they can work. This could be impossible to do for all I know. If you are playing on a no-zero wheel with no house edge apart from giving them 10% of your lovely winnings, why would you need to play mutually exclusive bets anyhow. The only downside I can see is that you would be open to a bit more negative fluctuation but on the plus side you could get some positive variance as well. With no house edge against you however, I would not have thought it was that important an issue.
just my 2 cents worth.
Im glad U only spent 2 cents on it John.
U worried me then that U might have invested more in the Bot speak!! LoL.
No U can not do that with two bots, just do it with one!!
A bot will do what ever U tell it to do.
@Noddy/Flukey "Could the 2 bots not play the same system. "
They certainly could. :thumbsup:
That's if you're thinking in terms of light/dark positive/negative convex/concave which is how I'm seeing the suggestion.
(As an aside, thinking in those same terms, I devised a ladder-approach for backing AND laying the same horse at the same time with great success. But that's another story not for here.)
Therefore I think you could follow up on your 2-bot idea. Especially applicable to baccarat and roulette EC, by the way.
Quote from: flukey luke on Mar 18, 08:15 PM 2011
This suggestion may sound a bit daft because I have not really thought it through but here goes anyhow! :xd:
Could you not use 2 bots at the same time with one playing the opposite of the other!
it dosent work.
1 wins and the other loses. the only way to play it is 2 different betting stles
this is very smart talk.
say you play e/c with two bots. 1 bot wins, 1 bot losses. no gain no loss. 1+, 1- = 0.
you have to play two different styles or the bets have to be different but that makes no sence cause you are effectivly playing against your own bot.
the name of the game is to win, not lose.
Here is an example of what I was getting at.
You want to place a ÂÃ,£10 bet on red after 3 blacks have appeared.
You can't place mutually exclusive bets on red and black just to gather spin data.
so......
bot 1 plays minimum bet on red.
bot 2 plays minimum bet on black.
eventually three blacks will have appeared and it is now time to place the ÂÃ,£10 bet on red.
you could have bot 1 and bot 2 both place ÂÃ,£5 each on red if you wanted to.
This way would allow you to play mutually exclusive spins and gather data without being subject to any negative fluctuations by just betting one even chance to gather spin data.
you could but like chris said you only need one bot to place the bet.
one bot can play many styles at once.
I dont understand the reason for soo much fuss over free spins. Apart from playtech casinos, none provides them (people here also speak that playtech has predatory RNG etc.). Betvoyager does have minimum bet from 1 cent. Do one thing, to generate numbers/spins, place 1 cent on any one EC consistantly throughout the game. It should normally even out and if not in a single game, eventually in long run, it will. Simple.
i agree alabah, i dont see the big deal. but when things change its usualy small tobegin with then the changes get bigger.
i believe online is the future for gambling. easey targets but they will change if we win to much.
it always start small but what the hell do i know lol.
BV NOZERO ROULETTE
FREESPIN SOLUTION
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1.5 on LOW
0.5 on 19-24
1.0 on DOZ 3
=3u
RETURN=3u
Also works in AUTOMODE !
:)
Now you can have freespins!
A.
Quote from: flukey luke on Mar 19, 07:26 AM 2011
Here is an example of what I was getting at.
You want to place a ÂÃ,£10 bet on red after 3 blacks have appeared.
You can't place mutually exclusive bets on red and black just to gather spin data.
so......
bot 1 plays minimum bet on red.
bot 2 plays minimum bet on black.
eventually three blacks will have appeared and it is now time to place the ÂÃ,£10 bet on red.
you could have bot 1 and bot 2 both place ÂÃ,£5 each on red if you wanted to.
This way would allow you to play mutually exclusive spins and gather data without being subject to any negative fluctuations by just betting one even chance to gather spin data.
Why would U need two bots to perform this task.
U can only do ONE operation at a time on the Patient as the surgeon says, so y 2 bots.
bet on red
spin
note result
bet on black
spin
note result.
bet................
spin..............
thats it John.
simple.
Can not bet on red, and black at the same time.
Can not bet on red with one bot on one computer screen,
and have another bot bet on black on another computer, because U will have two completely different games, with two different SHA-256 numbers being sent to them!
Quote from: atlantis on Mar 19, 07:51 AM 2011
BV NOZERO ROULETTE
FREESPIN SOLUTION
===============
1.5 on LOW
0.5 on 19-24
1.0 on DOZ 3
=3u
RETURN=3u
Also works in AUTOMODE !
:)
Now you can have freespins!
A.
BRILLIANT!!
Well done and thanks for posting this.
Quote from: atlantis on Mar 19, 07:51 AM 2011
BV NOZERO ROULETTE
FREESPIN SOLUTION
===============
1.5 on LOW
0.5 on 19-24
1.0 on DOZ 3
=3u
RETURN=3u
Also works in AUTOMODE !
:)
Now you can have freespins!
A.
You should rather double the amount in cents because no one can use 1.5 and .5 units in cents, so better use 3, 1 and 2 units= 6 units total(6cents)
QuoteBV NOZERO ROULETTE
FREESPIN SOLUTION
===============
1.5 on LOW
0.5 on 19-24
1.0 on DOZ 3
=3u
RETURN=3u
Also works in AUTOMODE !
Smiley
Now you can have freespins!
A.
Brilliant solution.
Thanks a Million.
You can even do it with cents.
0.15c Low
0.05 19-24
0.10 Doz 3'
Total 0.30c
when it can be done with 6 cents as I suggest, why go for 30?
This is what it would look like in RSS or RSS Pro.
bet_x_on_y(chips[2],['Low','Dozen_High'],chips);
bet_x_on_y(chips[1]*5,['Low','Line_7'],chips);
Quote from: albalaha on Mar 21, 12:37 AM 2011
when it can be done with 6 cents as I suggest, why go for 30?
Ahh... yeah.
That will work as well.
But I think the credit should go to atlantis for coming up with the original solution.
I am not asking for any credit but I tweaked it for the ease of playing. Betting half chips is not allowed normally in any casino-online or live.This method can be used in live casinos also to create illusion of betting with 6 chips. We can play other way round also like 2 chips on 1st dozen, 1chip on 13-18 and 3 chips on high. Good illusion. Nice for clearing wagering requirements too where there is no restiction on betting styles or in a situation where u can't be idle in the game.
Ive been puttin 2 units on 1st and 2nd dozen and 1 unit on each line in the 3rd dozen
Its all good ;D
Nice one Atlantis :thumbsup:
There can be various other ways to do so, like put 1 chip each on all line bets of first and second dozen and two chip on third dozen.
I did try 1p on Red a few times
Amazin the amount of Blacks that come out lol :P
Quote from: pratikpop on Oct 22, 12:46 PM 2011
we don't need to review this casino....as it is the most famous casino...in the whole casino industry..no playtech or any rng...is better than betvoyager..when it comes to its speed..betstakes and randomness feature...withdrawls are very faster...without any documental stress to the customer
Well... I think it's good to have a review.
BV is fairly good. However it does have it's down side.
Customer support and interaction is very poor.
You can get sync errors, time outs, disconnects and other odd behaviour.
Plus it no longer takes American players.
Then what online casino does?
Yeah BV is good casino, but is possible for them to put the numbers they want in the sha-algorithum before the spins if the computers "learn" your system or bet selection
Quote from: sheki on May 23, 08:10 AM 2013
Yeah BV is good casino, but is possible for them to put the numbers they want in the sha-algorithum before the spins if the computers "learn" your system or bet selection
And you are free to change your play any time after it is "set in stone".
yes, but you think they for real can do this?
Quote from: sheki on May 23, 09:39 AM 2013
yes, but you think they for real can do this?
I did twice, a third of it!
Fun at Bv is the very same, the same randomness control!
We players behave not the same in real as fun.
Hey everyone, I'm fairly new to gambling and roulette strategies as well as bots and all that stuff. I played minimal bets on betvoyager for the last few days on their no zero no house edge roulette and at one point I got 11 blacks in a row. I just wanted to ask, is this something common that happens even with randomness control? (mind you I did get my money back, started betting 1-errs and 5-verrs and got back to 103 in 20 min.)
That is very normal, you will see even more.
I think this is the most color repeat I've seen on BV in tens of thousands of spins. Or maybe 17-18, but I've never seen more than 20 that's for sure.
(link:://i.imgur.com/uq5vIHZ.png)
Whell... thank you for completely destroying my illusion before I had lost all my money :xd: :xd: All I need is a 52000+ bank balance, a starting bet of 0.05 and a casino that has a bet limit on outside bets of above 26000 :xd: (or maybe a better betting strategy lol!)
Once again, thanks for opening my eyes :)
The most I have seen on the RNG of Betvoyager is 25 blacks, the whole board plus a few. Unfortunately I cant find my screenshot I took of the whole board showing black numbers. The most reds in a row I have seen is 12.
While I think BV is honest, for some reason if you bet on red the blacks will really come in a vengeance.