Has anybody read the book on this yet? And does the principle have any great merit or usefulness?
Any help will be great thanks
MP
not worth 100 dollars .wait for any even chance to chop 8 times then bet for a double and you guessed it marty.
Thanks, would you say that is typical (about 8)of the maximum alternate opposites one comes across before a double happen with real random spins? I have started comparing EC agains each other and 8 or 9 seems about it?
thanks
Si
The way he teaches to play is very unscientific and illogical. Nothing more than "gamblers' fallacy".
Is it Balwinder Sambi the outhor of the book?
Jon
Yes Balvinder Sambhi is the author. . .
Has anyone realy read this book and understand it?
Warrior mention about waiting for 8 chops and bet for a double but the problem is with even chance we dont now ho will be a double!
So its not all his system. The bet selection its a its about. The layout.
Jon
Quote from: jon86 on May 02, 09:50 AM 2011
Has anyone realy read this book and understand it?
Warrior mention about waiting for 8 chops and bet for a double but the problem is with even chance we don't now ho will be a double!
So its not all his system. The bet selection its a its about. The layout.
Jon
no its not about the lay out, if you look on his web sight he uses tails and heads for ex. i have the book and by the way did not pay for it postal issues at the time canceled the order but the book still came in. he takes all even chances waits for 8 chops then goes in. he claims his bet seletion does not lose 16 in a row thats one of the seletions the other onei will check for you i have to find the book i will let you no but really no big deal.
Warrior.
I got the book my self :)
I have not play this method myself but i belive its interesting.
To chop 18 times in a row is pretty hard right?
But i dont understand the bet he places and why on the layout after 8 chops?
Cheers
Jon
Hi Jon,
If you get a chance take a peek inside that book of yours and see how he structures his bets?
cheers
MP
Neither have I seen more then 10 in the row
without chop after a chop,or RBR...BRB,there
is a thought for all.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 05, 03:31 PM 2011
Neither have I seen more then 10 in the row
without chop after a chop,or RBR...BRB,there
is a thought for all.
Exactly. But he bet on the inside numbers that i dont understand.
I think this system works maiby if play it right. 18 chops is imposibe without a double in the midle.
Jon
so hes pushing a 10 step marty?
Quote from: jon86 on May 05, 05:06 PM 2011
Exactly. But he bet on the inside numbers that i don't understand.
I think this system works maiby if play it right. 18 chops is imposibe without a double in the midle.
Jon
jon take a look at your book, on the even chances he bets on the out side after 8 chops then he bets a marty for a double ,depending on the outside limit ,he progresses up to 8 after the
8 chops if the outside limit is 500 for ex. he might use the inside for the remainder of the progression,he has the other bet selection also where he bets on 4 lines 2 lines for a return of money ,and the other 2 for a profit.same concept he waits for 6 chops in this case.
Quote from: warrior on May 05, 07:08 PM 2011
jon take a look at your book, on the even chances he bets on the out side after 8 chops then he bets a marty for a double ,depending on the outside limit ,he progresses up to 8 after the
8 chops if the outside limit is 500 for ex. he might use the inside for the remainder of the progression,he has the other bet selection also where he bets on 4 lines 2 lines for a return of money ,and the other 2 for a profit.same concept he waits for 6 chops in this case.
hi.
nope not in my book. in my book he bet on 2 corners strait away with a 20 stepp NOT marty progression. I am realy confused now. Beacuse to me this system seems like a real grinder but winner.
Whats the front of your book warrior. Beaucuse i know its a couple different books. I have the newest book.
Jon
Quote from: jon86 on May 06, 03:35 AM 2011
hi.
nope not in my book. in my book he bet on 2 corners strait away with a 20 stepp NOT marty progression. I am realy confused now. Beacuse to me this system seems like a real grinder but winner.
what's the front of your book warrior. Beaucuse i know its a couple different books. I have the newest book.
Jon
ok that's the other one got it, the first one that he came out with.
Can i post the full system from the book here?
Or am i braking any cind of copyrights?
Jon :)
Quote from: jon86 on May 07, 05:56 AM 2011
Can i post the full system from the book here?
Or am i braking any cind of copyrights?
Jon :)
go ahead just call something else.
ok. My book has 2 different systems.
2 corner progression.
Wait for twenty consecutive spins to appear in a row without 8.9.11.12 or 26.27.29.30 numbers appearing.
Start the 2 corner 8.9.11.12 and 26.27.29.30 betting progression.
progresssion. 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 10 15 20 25 40 50 60 80 100 130 170 220 295. If hit in any stepp of progression we will profit.
and the other system.
18 number based system.
Wait for 12 consecutive numbers to appear 7-12. 25-36 in a row.
Start the number based 1-6. 13-24 betting progression.
1 chip on line 1-6
1 chip on line 13-18
1 chip on line 19-24
progression.
7 steep martingale on all lines.
That was it.
What i dont get is the 2 corner progression why the 2 corners would win in those spins after the trigger?
Jon
What i dont understand is why those numbers and the 2 corners.
he just wait for a chop of 8 like we discust before but why exactly those numbers and that 2 corners?
Jon
Hi.
I strongly belive that we dont know this bet or system if you like to call it that.
I have tested it in RX both live and Rng numbers and it past the 10000 spins without problem.
My highest progression i had 4 stepps left happen only 1 time.
Rest of the spins i wasnt even close to bet the last stepp.
I will post the bankroll trend and all numbers later.
I still dont know why this wins.
Cheers
Jon
Quote from: jon86 on May 16, 06:27 AM 2011
Hi.
I strongly belive that we don't know this bet or system if you like to call it that.
I have tested it in RX both live and Rng numbers and it past the 10000 spins without problem.
My highest progression I had 4 stepps left happen only 1 time.
Rest of the spins I wasn't even close to bet the last stepp.
I will post the bankroll trend and all numbers later.
I still don't know why this wins.
Cheers
Jon
Do you play this like it is described in attachment?
[attachthumb=#]
Hi. No.
I dont know what that is. I play the 2 corner progression from Baldvinder Sambi.
I have describe it a couple post back.
Jon
Quote from: marivo on May 16, 07:38 AM 2011
Do you play this like it is described in attachment?
[attachthumb=#]
that is from his first book.
Quote from: warrior on May 16, 10:44 AM 2011
that is from his first book.
The one i have tested is from the new book:)
Jon
Quote from: jon86 on May 16, 10:46 AM 2011
The one I have tested is from the new book:)
Jon
20 spins is a long wait in a real casino.
Quote from: warrior on May 16, 10:52 AM 2011
20 spins is a long wait in a real casino.
12 or 20 its no different.
I only use the wait for 12 numbers to miss and it has more stepps in the progression.
It works like hell and wins every oppertunity right away most of the time. I will test 10000 spins more and post it all with numbers and trend.
Jon
Quote from: jon86 on May 16, 09:08 PM 2011
12 or 20 its no different.
I only use the wait for 12 numbers to miss and it has more stepps in the progression.
It works like hell and wins every oppertunity right away most of the time. I will test 10000 spins more and post it all with numbers and trend.
Jon
sounds good.
Quote from: jon86 on May 16, 09:08 PM 2011
12 or 20 its no different.
I only use the wait for 12 numbers to miss and it has more stepps in the progression.
It works like hell and wins every oppertunity right away most of the time. I will test 10000 spins more and post it all with numbers and trend.
Jon
Oh then you are playing like in the attachment ! ???
Quote from: marivo on May 17, 04:44 AM 2011
Oh then you are playing like in the attachment ! ???
No. I bet only on 2 corners. I dont know what the system you post is.
Read a couple post back from me and you will find how to do it.
Jon
Quote from: jon86 on May 07, 08:09 AM 2011
Ok. My book has 2 different systems.
2 corner progression.
Wait for twenty consecutive spins to appear in a row without 8.9.11.12 or 26.27.29.30 numbers appearing.
Start the 2 corner 8.9.11.12 and 26.27.29.30 betting progression.
progresssion. 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 10 15 20 25 40 50 60 80 100 130 170 220 295. If hit in any stepp of progression we will profit.
I understand this. Except that I would wait any 2 corner bets missing 20 spins not just this 2 you mentioned above. I dont think there is a difference. I just dont understand why you say you wait 12 numbers to miss (2 corners = 8 numbers):
Quote from: jon86 on May 16, 09:08 PM 2011
12 or 20 its no different.
I only use the wait for 12 numbers to miss and it has more stepps in the progression.
It works like hell and wins every oppertunity right away most of the time. I will test 10000 spins more and post it all with numbers and trend.
Jon
Anyway this corner bet needs 40 missings of 2 corners to fail. Is that possible? I guess it is since everything is possible in roulette... And you need 2500 units BR to play to last step. So its not surprising to be profitable in most cases.
Its a reason for those 2 corners i belive.
Jon
Quote from: jon86 on May 17, 12:42 PM 2011
Its a reason for those 2 corners I belive.
Jon
Dear JON,
Take any 2 corners you wish....not hitting 20 spins/which would be a loooooong wait
under B&M casino circumstances/......and you will find out the same thing as with these 2 corners described.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 17, 12:58 PM 2011
Dear JON,
Take any 2 corners you wish....not hitting 20 spins/which would be a loooooong wait
under B&M casino circumstances/......and you will find out the same thing as with these 2 corners described.
Yes Flat.
Only 12 spins without those 2 corners hitting and bet on them.
But on his website he says if it chops 20 times without getting a double his system loses. I cant understand what that has to do with this ???
Jon
Quote from: jon86 on May 17, 07:44 PM 2011
Yes Flat.
Only 12 spins without those 2 corners hitting and bet on them.
But on his website he says if it chops 20 times without getting a double his system loses. I can't understand what that has to do with this ???
Jon
jon he is talking about the even money that's from his first book tails and heads are used as ex. he waits 8 chops then goes for the next 8 spins trying for a double.
Quote from: warrior on May 17, 11:23 PM 2011
jon he is talking about the even money that's from his first book tails and heads are used as ex. he waits 8 chops then goes for the next 8 spins trying for a double.
I see. Now i understands.
Jon
Quote from: jon86 on May 18, 05:20 AM 2011
I see. Now I understands.
Jon
breaking the roulette is the title of the book ,i think he got tired and fustrated,broke one of the wheels ,managers barred him from every casino LoL.
8 chops is not that much, it has the same chance of happening as 8 reds or 8 blacks. Also, his corner system is insane. The guy is an amateur.
Quote from: warrior on May 18, 09:45 AM 2011
breaking the roulette is the title of the book ,i think he got tired and fustrated,broke one of the wheels ,managers barred him from every casino LoL.
LOL ;D
Quote from: dangle on May 18, 11:08 AM 2011
8 chops is not that much, it has the same chance of happening as 8 reds or 8 blacks. Also, his corner system is insane. The guy is an amateur.
Maiby then tell me how the F does the 2 corner progression pass 10000 spins test with real numbers?
Cheers
Jon
How many game entries in those f-ing spins?
Quote from: dangle on May 18, 02:03 PM 2011
How many game entries in those spins?
What do you mean? My english is not so good :)
Jon
It's easy to beat 10,000 spins if you only attack 10 times.
Quote from: dangle on May 18, 02:17 PM 2011
It's easy to beat 10,000 spins if you only attack 10 times.
No. You mean how many bets placed? Many:)
Jon
Hi,
I am new here. I am gripped by this system of sequential roulette which I have been studying for a month or so. I am wondering how everyone's tests on it are going since the last post here? What I have found is: never gone beyond 36 spins for numbers 8 9 11 12, 26 27 29 30 but has gone up to 44 or 48 spins taking any other 2 corner bets. I am thinking possibly it's something to do with if you fold the board together certain numbers will map onto each other like 8 9 11 12 falls onto 26 27 29 30. Another example: 1 2 4 5 falls onto 31 32 34 35 and it could be these are the best ones to go for.
what happens with this one? I saw it on the other forum the guy is swearing that he still didn't lost with the ballvinder double corner bets in 3 years.
Some say the system sucks but no one ever proved that it will lose.
grtz R
Rewster see my thread from several days ago. A member said it faiks
Normy made a bot says no good
I wish it worked
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15123.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15123.0)
I cant find the set of spins that made it lose cause it was 2 years ago,
but see a 24h test at Dublin, see how long waiting for a trigger can be.
Remember, those +78 units won in 24h are dimes so you would win a BIG 7.8 dollard for your day.
IMO, you better wash the floor at McDonnald, no?
Try your-self, Rx attached. :-)
So in other words it is a good system if used with big boy units
Not even. I see some 5-6 hours waiting for trigger.
I also reached step 27 (220 x 2) in a 5k spins set.
The system is not for human, and a bot would need all the small profit to put dummy bets on the table to keep the conection with the casino busy...