I tweaked the JL & Kingspin idea to marvelous system.
Enjoy Hermes
Can not open
i can't open it too. whats wrong i wonder. ???
I did.
Do we need a program on our computers to open up "rar" files?
Quote from: chrisbis on Apr 25, 04:52 PM 2011
Do we need a program on our computers to open up "rar" files?
Winrar Or WinZip
I dont understand how to play and what you mean Hermes.
Can you explain.
Cheers
Jon
Jon read 3 more times because it cannot be explained easier. Can somebody who understand the concept help Jon with the homework? Thanks.
Yes, you need WinRar because it didn't want to take the MS Excel but the second and successful try is MS Excel. You need MS Excell program to read it.
Ending .rar is always WinRar or WinZip.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Apr 25, 09:00 PM 2011
Jon read 3 more times because it cannot be explained easier. Can somebody who understand the concept help Jon with the homework? Thanks.
Yes, you need WinRar because it didn't want to take the MS Excel but the second and successful try is MS Excel. You need MS Excell program to read it.
Ending .rar is always WinRar or WinZip.
Hermes
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Hermes, you'd be amazed of how many of us don't have a clue of what you're doing here...
*Are you recording spins top down or accross?
*Are you betting FOR or AGAINST the very back 9th spin result?
OR
*Are you betting every line/column you fill?! "If you win the first spin just fill the other 2 into 3 formation and bet the next triple spins."
vundarosa
Quote from: vundarosa on Apr 25, 09:14 PM 2011
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Hermes, you'd be amazed of how many of us don't have a clue of what you're doing here...
*Are you recording
spins top down or accross?
*Are you betting FOR or AGAINST the very back 9th spin result?
OR
*Are you betting every line/column you fill?! "If you win the first spin just fill the other 2 into 3 formation and bet the next triple spins."
vundarosa
LOL.
Exactly ;D
Jon
Vundarosa you are almost there!
Spins are recorded 3 in row and down. Bet against every third row like JL and Kingspin do but bet every row no need to wait for next 9 spins. Bet at least one (if hit) in every row.
In the manual is it clear to bet against the 3rd upper row. I bet every row until hit than just fill the rest of the row and bet again the next row. So simple.
HHL
HHH
LLH next row is to bet don't fall a sleep! You bet against appearance of HHL. For one win only.
LLL first spin hit, no more bets only right down the 2 more spins (LL)
this row you bet against appearance of HHH - Verstanden or not?
Guys you get me into mental hospital!
Hermes
"Guys you get me into mental hospital!"
well, wasn't that the point?! :wink:
got it thanks...that was MUCH easier to understand :thumbsup:
vundarosa
I try it tonight live on Smart or Dublin. I am very confident with the results.
Everybody is so brain dormant after winter that even when I present to you Holy Sheet you don't react. What about Spring Cleanse of the body, mind and spirit? I did it recently. Big help to creativity.
Hermes
my live spins tested wiesbaden
HLH
LHL
HLL
HLH LOSS
LHL LOSS
HLL LOSS
my first 18 live spins 3 losses -21
Post you must have a bad luck what ever you touch. Don't go to casino, first do the spring cleansing to clean the karma. I tested over 500 spins and won all. But it is possible than we will have a losing day. We have to put stop-loss on our bankroll.
I tested it also on dozens and it works with the Leveller progression like cream on coffee!
132
332
221 next row bet 2/3 against the 1st dozen.
133 loss, bet 1/2 against the 3rd dozen; loss, bet 1/3 against the 2nd dozen & win!
This system will give you in long run more money than your wife takes you away.
Hermes
P.S. John say that it works best on HL but I tested it on BR, could be it the difference? Twisteruk has the answer how to play it watch the Pattern 4 posts.
Hey Hermes. . . . I tried various variations of this theme while playing around with JL's idea. They all seemed to lose roughly with a ratio of 9 wins to 1 loss. I think this is because using 3 rows of EC's there are only 8 different combinations.
HHH
HHL
HLH
HLL
LHH
LLH
LHL
LLL
I think thats right. So then I went to 4 rows using the EC's as there are 15 combinations - I think. I stuck with the martingale of JL's system. It still failed more times than I liked so now im trying the Dozens with 4 rows. I havnt properly worked out how many combinations there are but its gotta be around 50ish.
I also dont know how to treat the zero. . . And I need a decent progression for 4 bets - one for each row.
If this dosnt work i was going to try lines. I figure theres gotta be a hundred combinations at least over 4 rows.
No intention to trash Hermes method,but since we are here to
assist each other,well here is my view of this bet,it is how I play;
9 spins of any EC virtually
r r b r b b b r r....now start betting for a repeat,with the wheel,cycle of 9 bets flat bet.
If lose,rise the bet on next cycle of 9 spins as follows;
--9 un. if lose all 9 bets.
--7 un. if lose 8 bets
--4 un. if lose 7 bets
--2 un. if lose 6 bets
Same on winnings when down.
Originally I play this with 8 spins repeat,but just wanted to show the Hermes idea
/which is actually same/but with different approach of stakings.
What do you mean with the 4 in row smee? Something like that:
LLLL
HLHL
LHLH
LLLH that's 16 spins. I mentioned in the system that square12 would be better than square 9.
Progression is not a problem but I am surprised with you negative results guys! I won another 200 spins and max. losses in row 4. It could be played the other way also, bet not against but the same what came 9 spins ago. And bet against and the same could be combined!
I used Oscar Grind progression (win +1 u, Loss hold the same until in plus) and won on 200 spins 65 units. The zero put on side not into the square. If loss on zero bet the second in the row.
INO you look younger and younger how do you do it?
Yes, you could bet 3 rows flat and when in minus rise next 3 rows to 2 units and when still not winning bet next 3 rows 4 units. When total in plus reset to 1 unit again.
Hermes
I went on Friday again to play the baccarat in land casino. I won 17 units on shoe of 83.
here is the session:
PBP
PPB
BBB
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BPP W B1
BBB W B1
BPB W P1, P1
PBB W P1
PPP W P1
PPP W P1
BPB W B1
BBB W B1
PPB W B1, B1, B2
PBB W P1
PPP W P1
BBB W B1
PPB W P1, P1
BBP W B1
PBB W P1
BPP W B1
PBP W P1
PBB L B1, P1, P2
PBB W P2
BBP W B2
PP W B1, P2.
As you can see it is holy schmoly if enough bankroll (on baccarat $10 min - bankroll $700).
I already could sell the system to a Chinese for $1.000 but I didn't have the stomach for it.
Another bulletproof system is: wait for first TIE and then wait for 10 no TIE hands and apply a progression on appearance of TIE only! Bet for 3 ties in one shoe to be on the secure side. Average is 6 ties for a shoe. You cannot lose with that strategy.
Cheers Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Jun 04, 02:56 PM 2011
I went on Friday again to play the baccarat in land casino. I won 17 units on shoe of 83.
here is the session:
PBP
PPB
BBB
-----
BPP W B1
BBB W B1
BPB W P1, P1
PBB W P1
PPP W P1
PPP W P1
BPB W B1
BBB W B1
PPB W B1, B1, B2
PBB W P1
PPP W P1
BBB W B1
PPB W P1, P1
BBP W B1
PBB W P1
BPP W B1
PBP W P1
PBB L B1, P1, P2
PBB W P2
BBP W B2
PP W B1, P2.
As you can see it is holy schmoly if enough bankroll (on baccarat $10 min - bankroll $700).
I already could sell the system to a Chinese for $1.000 but I didn't have the stomach for it.
Another bulletproof system is: wait for first TIE and then wait for 10 no TIE hands and apply a progression on appearance of TIE only! Bet for 3 ties in one shoe to be on the secure side. Average is 6 ties for a shoe. You cannot lose with that strategy.
Cheers Hermes
i did this progression for a tie. i won twice, with a decent progression. need a good bankroll. I used 11 hands instead of 10 hands wait.
this is the best system on roulette forum. atleast you can play each line. no waiting spins. high strike rate. code 4+bermuda triangle might be a good bet.
I tweaked it even further with excellent results! New name: Bermuda Triangle Random. ;D
1A1A You bet always against that rigid triangle. I tested 500 spins and heavy won.
2B2B Maximum 2 spin failures. It is a Holy Schmoly in long run if betting with Leveller.
3C3C
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20,29,36,19
9,33,33,19
8,21,8,35
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21,22,34,34
7,27,28,13
19,9,7,16
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10,9,12,3
33,22,30,29
7,16,28,25
Numbers in bold winners. 27 winners and 9 losers. It could be beaten if lucky enough even with that stupid progression 1-3-9-21.
Look at my post number 333
Hermes
hi, hermes are you betting against each letter/number, i.e. every spin? let us know what line are you betting against.
No I am betting only till hit in row but gave you an example that it could be played all spins.
Moe money coming in pockets.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Jun 14, 09:58 PM 2011
No I am betting only till hit in row but gave you an example that it could be played all spins.
Moe money coming in pockets.
Hermes
that's what I intend to do. imagine playing with $5 units. i have a good bankroll.
Quote from: Hermes on Jun 14, 09:58 PM 2011
No I am betting only till hit in row but gave you an example that it could be played all spins.
Moe money coming in pockets.
Hermes
where are you playing this at. which casino?
good luck with it hermes---ain't this a nicer place than that baccarat forum:)
Halba777 would be more lucky combination. I play a little 10% online live and 90% land casinos. I like the atmosphere of casinos missing online. Triangle also means 3. Never bet for real RNGs. RNGs are for suicidal and retarded. RNGs = Slaughter (slot) machines, remember that!
Tomla021, you look familiar Tommy Cruise! How is the weather in Hollywood? Yes, when people are not creative they are miserable and there are a few of them.
Yes, I am also thinking to sweep the rows instead to bet just until hit. The phantasy has no boundary. This strategy is so versatile that you can play it even on guitar. Again, thanks to Johnlegend idea. I like also another fast learners GLC and Kattila.
2 nights ago I tested this creation on Smartlive casino and made $50. It was after midnight and I got sleepy like dozens do and went to sleep as a winner.
Happy gambling
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Apr 27, 03:38 PM 2011
What do you mean with the 4 in row smee? Something like that:
LLLL
HLHL
LHLH
LLLH that's 16 spins. I mentioned in the system that square12 would be better than square 9.
Progression is not a problem but I am surprised with you negative results guys! I won another 200 spins and max. losses in row 4. It could be played the other way also, bet not against but the same what came 9 spins ago. And bet against and the same could be combined!
I used Oscar Grind progression (win +1 u, Loss hold the same until in plus) and won on 200 spins 65 units. The zero put on side not into the square. If loss on zero bet the second in the row.
INO you look younger and younger how do you do it?
Yes, you could bet 3 rows flat and when in minus rise next 3 rows to 2 units and when still not winning bet next 3 rows 4 units. When total in plus reset to 1 unit again.
Hermes
patterns of 8 should give about 256 combinations.
255 winning against 1 loosing
For all this matters it would take a mild fibbo progression (and you are the king of that) to get ahead as the LW path will aim for correction sooner or latter.
We do not have to win every step of progression to end in profit...
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers,
AL
Quote from: Hermes on Jun 14, 06:50 PM 2011
I tweaked it even further with excellent results! New name: Bermuda Triangle Random. ;D
1A1A You bet always against that rigid triangle. I tested 500 spins and heavy won.
2B2B Maximum 2 spin failures. It is a Holy Schmoly in long run if betting with Leveller.
3C3C
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20,29,36,19
9,33,33,19
8,21,8,35
-----------------------------
21,22,34,34
7,27,28,13
19,9,7,16
-----------------------------
10,9,12,3
33,22,30,29
7,16,28,25
Numbers in bold winners. 27 winners and 9 losers. It could be beaten if lucky enough even with that silly progression 1-3-9-21.
Look at my post number 333
Hermes
hello hermes. this is most amazing. 27-9 ratio. did you this one on smartlive? you could even play the row immediately above. the odds are the same. makes no difference. you could even flat bet and be up a lot.
Halba no good idea bet every row because betting every 9 or 16th spin event is a cushion for a big streaks when they occurs. Yes, that's smart man in smart casino. Smart man won this time.
albertojonas you are right if played a strong progression like Marty but if played Fibs or even better Leveller no problem. If I win 255 times and lose 1 I am a millionaire in half a year - just kidding.
I tried the fixed square on ECs but not that successful like on D/C. ECs are anyway more difficult to bet. Try to bet against that star combination:
RORO
EBEB
RORO
EBEB
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? bet Black 1 unit.
I got maximum 3 lost spins in row if played all 4 in row but every 16th event for 360 spins.
How many losses you get when you play any other system for ECs? At least 5-7 lost spins. This strategy is advantage for ECs but real liquid spin events 4x4 square make even better results! I use them successfully on baccarat.
Rigid is rigid cannot be changed.
Cheers Hermes
Hello hermes.
yes better to play as you played it.
also high strike rate.
if you use martingale, you have to start off at low units(as they get exponential higher)
if you use leveller - you can start with higher units.
but I conclude the return is about the same, because it evens out. you make larger losers with leveller, and you recoup with martingale quicker. martingale only has the drawback of 1 big loss, we don't know when. you can earn thousands if you play this all day on a live wheel. RNGs a bit risky, I saw maui got bitten by Joyland RNG. this means that RNG is very risky option as its not a true random.
D/C is more successful. this is because the no. of combinations if 3x3x3x3 =81 . the no. of combinations of an EC is only 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 16
You are right my friend, that is the disadvantage between D/C and ECs.
Always bet secure as possible don't go for big wins they come if you compound you bankroll with winnings and will bet with higher minimum but the same security.
Even when we win $15 we feel as winners but when we lose only$10 we feel like losers.
Security first!
Hermes
Totally agree. the strategy you start off with is the most crucial. if you are starting with a strategy that has only 1/16 chance of losing, it is much worse than if you start a strategy that is 1/81 chance. also the security in mind is more important. in the long term you are much better off with D/Cs - better investment. the more session you play with EC, the more it will stuff you up at some point. Although with good progression the result will be good on EC. but much easier to play D/C with a good table limit on the D/C. majority of results are within the first 2 spins. I will try it out with a $50 target . start small no greedy. we have plenty of time. I will also go to the sydney casino and report my result within a week or so, $100 target is fine
I wrote the ECs strategy to use more on baccarat, SicBo and craps. Roulette even with one zero is disadvantage. Be like energy, use the shortest way with smallest resistance. I do it all the time. And simplest is better.
In land casino, for the whole day win $500 is not a problem if you don't get after each hit noisy orgasm. I see it at card games, especially the youngsters yell after hit like when they get an orgasm. Excitement is not good after hit because after laugh comes cry.
Hermes
EC strategy good for baccarat. craps not sure how to use it though.
Ha, ha, ha... you must learn the rules of craps first - the most exciting game in casino.
Pass line / Don't pass line acts as Black and Red (sometimes).
Hermes
yeah i actually know craps pretty well and played it on betvoyager. my opinion -very hard to master! i went down the drain easily. the 7 is like the zero in roulette depending on which way you go.
craps versus baccarat versus roulette
edge
Roulette(bet voyager) - nearly nil.
Roulette (Single Zero) 2.70%
Baccarat Banker 1.17%
Baccarat Player 1.36%
Craps Pass/Come 1.41%
Craps Don't Pass/Don't Come 1.40%
baccarat appears to be the best game in the casino. blackjack may have lower edge, but its too hard to get an E/C combo there.
Quote from: Hermes on Jun 14, 06:50 PM 2011
I tweaked it even further with excellent results! New name: Bermuda Triangle Random. ;D
1A1A You bet always against that rigid triangle. I tested 500 spins and heavy won.
2B2B Maximum 2 spin failures. It is a Holy Schmoly in long run if betting with Leveller.
3C3C
-------
20,29,36,19
9,33,33,19
8,21,8,35
-----------------------------
21,22,34,34
7,27,28,13
19,9,7,16
-----------------------------
10,9,12,3
33,22,30,29
7,16,28,25
Numbers in bold winners. 27 winners and 9 losers. It could be beaten if lucky enough even with that silly progression 1-3-9-21.
Look at my post number 333
Hermes
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Hermes, You said "It is a Holy Schmoly in long run if betting with Leveller."
I'm lost when it comes to the progression, not familiar with the Leveller...
Looks really promising...
vundarosa
Re: tried on baccarat. not as effective in my opinion. reason - B & P streak too much. Multiple E/Cs in one row is much better, as we avoid the streaks. e.g.
Situation
PPPP
xxxx
xxx
PPPP >> we bet against the top line, but it streaked again.
do you start tracking from past hands hermes, or do you ignore history in the live bacca/roulette, and start from scratch upon entering. thanks.
Quote from: Hermes on Jun 14, 06:50 PM 2011
Look at my post number 333
Hermes
Where is this post? ???
hmm just downloaded ;) will provide feedback after reviewing :P
halba1, start always with 1st hand of the shoe. You can take the results from the score board, they are pretty accurate. Baccarat is not a game of streaks but more of chops. I saw 10 chops in row and 5 doubles in row! But good progression will take you from the hole. On baccarat is better to bet only against the first result in the row, if lost wait till next row results. So you can never lose a session.
marino, 333 means my 333th post written. Lucky number, isn't it?
vundarosa, write everything on paper! Leveller is: 1-2-4 and when you lose the 4 units you bet the same (4) until total equal or better then previous total. Best progression for 2D or 2C.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Jun 16, 12:34 PM 2011
marino, 333 means my 333th post written. Lucky number, isn't it?
I dont know how to find it, sorry .... ???
Marino it is not important to look for it. More important is to understand what we are here chanting about. My post was #333 at that time now is #344 or something like that.
Cheers Hermes
Been playing yesterday with fibo. I committed 400u just to see how it would go...no sweat
Profit: +70u
highest fibo: 34u
Hermes, you are THE Man!
vundarosa
Quote from: vundarosa on Jun 17, 01:08 AM 2011
Been playing yesterday with fibo. I committed 400u just to see how it would go...no sweat
Profit: +70u
highest fibo: 34u
Hermes, you are THE Man!
vundarosa
what progression exactly did u use? thanks. did you do it on dozens/columns?
vundarosa 34 units Fibo is too high! I would be scared. 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34 you must do something wrong? I never came that far! No more than 4 lost bets would be my way of Fibs
1-2-3-5-8. That's it.
What game did you play? Roulette with one zero, 2 zeros, baccarat or kamikaze RNGs?
Cheers Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Jun 17, 11:35 AM 2011
Vundarosa 34 units Fibo is too high! I would be scared. 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34 you must do something wrong? I never came that far! No more than 4 lost bets would be my way of Fibs
1-2-3-5-8. That's it.
What game did you play? Roulette with one zero, 2 zeros, baccarat or kamikaze RNGs?
Cheers Hermes
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lol, not really. i was playing continuously, betting every spin and went through 5 consecutive losses + zero....
i was playing straight fibo after the first loss of 1/1u, reseting when ahead...since then i am playing with fibo and when i get a win, i stay at that level till level or ahead, so with the 6 losses i would have bet 13u 3x instead of going up to 34u bet...less profit but much more secure.
This method rocks!
Now just need to find tables with more decent limits.
vundarosa
Quote from: vundarosa on Jun 17, 04:25 PM 2011
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LoL, not really. I was playing continuously, betting every spin and went through 5 consecutive losses + zero....
i was playing straight fibo after the first loss of 1/1u, reseting when ahead...since then I am playing with fibo and when I get a win, I stay at that level till level or ahead, so with the 6 losses I would have bet 13u 3x instead of going up to 34u bet...less profit but much more secure.
This method rocks!
Now just need to find tables with more decent limits.
vundarosa
smartlive have good limit
Hello Hermes!
What are the results and how you play it lately?
Best regards.
In winter I don't visit casinos often because of the road conditions but stay at home and beat the Forex. It is more rewarding although you need more knowledge to be successful.
On Baccarat you switch the D/C to Player/Banker and don't worry about zero! Worry only about Chinese around you. Ha, ha, ha... They fart too much when they are excited (relaxed)! Need gas mask.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Feb 04, 06:45 PM 2012
In winter I don't visit casinos often because of the road conditions but stay at home and beat the Forex. It is more rewarding although you need more knowledge to be successful.
On Baccarat you switch the D/C to Player/Banker and don't worry about zero! Worry only about Chinese around you. Ha, ha, ha... They fart too much when they are excited (relaxed)! Need gas mask.
Hermes
Heh, LOL!! ;D ;D
Timo
How to play :(