on behalf of fender the rules for the zone.......
Okay its time to lay in concrete the rules of THE ZONE FOR A 1000PT PLAYER. And a NEWBIE.
A 1000PTS PLAYER
(01)You wait for a trigger game (a dozen that sleeps for 9 or more consecutive spins) THIS GAME IS PART OF YOUR SESSION,even though you haven't played it. What you have done is now put the odds EVEN MORE IN YOUR FAVOUR.
(02)You now wait for the first DOZEN to go 4 spins without being hit, if there are twin qualifiers you don't bet unless one of them lost its previous 2 games.In which case you favour that one alone.
(03)If the game wins you wait for another qualifier. if it losses you again wait for the next qualifier but increase stakes you aim for 2 wins in a row maximum. Then you end the session or wait for a fresh trigger game within the session, that is YOUR CHOICE. I personally would end the session on most occasions.
(04)Staking plan for a maximum of 3 games 1,1,2,3----2,2,4,6,-----5,5,10,15--(10,10,20,30) When you have full confidence in the strategy as I do. Remember YOUR FIRST GAME was a virtual one. You are never playing more than 3 in a row. On the rare occasion you lose that 4th game. You stop. And work on recouping your losses over future sessions. But I can tell you now there is a reason for upping your stake so much. And its the awesome strike rate of that 4th game. Get used to winning it.
(05)If the first half of the strategy produced 2 or more losses, it would be wise to complete the whole 12 game frame. Contrary to what is believed by many. When it comes to THE ZONE what happens in the first 6 games ABSOLUTELY affects what happens in the NEXT 6 GAMES. There is nearly ALWAYS a hatrick of wins in the 12 game frame. If you don't get it in the first half, You nearly ALWAYS get it in the second. So you wait for two consecutive wins and then bet for a third consecutive winner using standard progression 1,1,2,3. You are likely to win, and if you do the session is over.
(06)Once you have completed the 12 game session. You have the option of playing a second session later in the day. It will depend on you as an individual (were you satisfied with 4--8pts profit from session 1?) The idea is to build a bankroll of power slowly but surely.Also there is a reason for the break-up of sessions. Contrary to flawed belief. If you play continuosly, you will meet more long losing streaks than you will by breaking up the sessions. I have proven this through testing throughout the years.
LATER THE RULES FOR NEWBIES....
Okay I am now going to post a set of rules for NEWBIES. I am also revising the staking plan to preserve those precious points in the early CRUCIAL STAGES. This way of playing is superior to the more risky one above. BUT REQUIRES MORE *****PATIENCE*****. Remember this, you may have to wait 30plus minutes between trigger games. But the reward is as close to certain as you will ever find in Roulette.
(01) YOU MUST! Wait for a sleeping dozen to go 9 or more spins before being hit. This is your trigger for the session and also makes up the first game of your 12 game frame.
(02) You must then wait for a Dozen to go 4 spins without being hit. If there are twin qualifiers you only bet if one of them lost its previous two games.
(03)You then proceed to bet on that dozen for three steps using the following progression 1,2,2 I you win on spins 5---7 you then wait for a FRESH TRIGGER before following rule 2 again. If you don't. You Sit out the next qualifier. If its a win you wait for another Trigger game. If its a loss. You have NOW arrived at the magical FOURTH GAME. Your staking for that game will be as follows 4,5,7. Your total risk is 21pts. At two key games in the strategy. I have revised this staking for newbies after a good point from Bombus. You see I am open to good advice.
(04)If the 4TH game wins. You then wait for a fresh trigger. If it loses you also stop at that point and wait for a fresh trigger game. You are aiming to make 5--10 points profit a day. From two sessions like this. Generally. There is rarely more than one multi-game losing streak in a session. Often there are none.
(05)If there isn't a HATRICK OF winners in the first 6 games of the session. You now wait until there are two consecutive winning games and bet for a third win as follows. 3,4,5. The reason your staking is greater for this bet is again its strike rate rivals the 4th game. Meaning you nearly ALWAYS WIN. I have recorded over 200 sessions in a row with a hatrick of wins from game 5-----12. Impressive to say the least. As a newbie this will often be your banker bet. And even if you win before the 12th game your session is OVER once you win the hatrick.
(06) Ideally you need a minumum of 250pts to get started. Your aim is to build a bankroll of 1,000 pts before you increase the value of a point. As a rough guide your minumum base bet should always be no more than 1/250th of your total bankroll. Stick to this and you are safe.
(07) Play no more than two 12 frame sessions per day. Until you have built up a bankroll of at least 500pts. There is an important reason for breaking up the sessions. Losing runs MOST DEFINATELY have a pattern when it comes to the zone. Continuos long sessions will mean you meet MORE of them than you want/need to. Stick to my guidelines.
(08) BE POSITIVE, AND ABOVE ALL ELSE ****PATIENT****The rewards are waiting for you if you are. And before you know it, you will arrive at a point (no pun intended) where this strategy can generate a living wage. Take it one step at a time and you will succeed.
whats your views theres been alot of trouble over this system the past month i personally like it im able to turn a profit on this most days and getting to a point of making 120 a day which is fine
let know what you think and try to step away from it wont work but i dont think anyone on this forum is like that so happy days
bless!
Hey Stack, good to know that you are improving The Zone further. Keep the research up mate. I have seem some other good tweaks around, one of them posted by Atlantis, who will hopefully join us here soon too.
Thanks.
Here are results from Casino Wiesbaden TABLE 3; 30 Apr 2010 (yesterday)
(Using atlantis tweak without fender rule#1)
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : 3rd Dozen
6,6,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : 3rd Dozen
7,28,Bet,2,6,-2,4,502,2 : 3rd Dozen **WON
8,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
9,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
10,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
11,16,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : 1st Dozen
12,27,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : 1st Dozen
13,21,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498,2 : 1st Dozen
14,22,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : 1st Dozen **LOST
15,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
16,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
17,35,Bet,3,9,-3,6,502,3 : 3rd Dozen **WON
18,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
19,2,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : 2nd Dozen
20,2,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : 2nd Dozen
21,10,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498,2 : 2nd Dozen
22,3,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : 2nd Dozen **LOST
23,25,Bet,3,9,-3,6,502,3 : 3rd Dozen **WON
24,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
25,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
26,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
27,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : 1st Dozen
28,34,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : 1st Dozen
29,2,Bet,2,6,-2,4,504,2 : 1st Dozen **WON
30,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
31,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
32,8,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : 2nd Dozen
33,13,Bet,1,3,-1,2,505,1 : 2nd Dozen **WON
34,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
35,35,Bet,1,3,-1,2,507,1 : 3rd Dozen **WON
36,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
37,36,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506,1 : 1st Dozen
38,29,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,505,1 : 1st Dozen
39,24,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,503,2 : 1st Dozen
40,5,Bet,2,6,-2,4,507,2 : 1st Dozen **WON
41,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
42,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
43,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
44,24,Bet,1,3,-1,2,509,1 : 2nd Dozen **WON
45,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
46,5,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : 3rd Dozen
47,29,Bet,1,3,-1,2,510,1 : 3rd Dozen **WON
Profit: +10
Total Games: 11
Won Games: 9
Lost Games: 2
Highest Bet: 3
Cheers,
A.
follow THRE RULES and you will always make money WARRIOR
Hey I am impressed stackbundles my system is here before me lol! ::)
Welcome around here Fender.
I hope you find this a productive place to debate your approach to roulette.
Victor
yes man i thought id get it up for you
Hey! FENDER,
Nice to see you made it over here. It's a lot better than the "Other" forums. No neg's to bother you here.
Victor just needs more good members to add to the ones he already has here. I will try and give Victor the names of other members on some of the other forums that are well behaved. . Hahahaha!
I posted in the Full Systems here regarding the REVERSE - ZONE. Maybe you can comment there.
Best Regards,
Scooby Doo
mm welcome fender :D
hamsup
Get this sports fans. Fender1000, whoever that is, has come up with an original idea in gambling and deserves credit for his discovery. He devised the notion that a very rare pattern or sequence of spins would be the only thing that could kill a certain specifically constructed progression. Discussions of these specific progressions and sequences will bring up thousands of discussions in the future. I just thought I would point that out for you.
Giz what on earth happenned at vls? Am I banned cannot log in. And this Steve guy deleted my Zone thread. I think this is very wrong but I can understand they were scared of me.
Scooby yes this is a better place. The latest I am banned from vls although I don't know why. And my thread the zone was removed. Seems this Steve charactor isn't democratic at all. And is being controlled by the negs. Puppet masters. . .
Quote from: FENDER1000 link=topic=55. msg581#msg581 date=1274293090
Giz what on earth happenned at vls? Am I banned cannot log in. And this Steve guy deleted my Zone thread. I think this is very wrong but I can understand they were scared of me.
They banned me for three days. I don't think they are scared of you. They don't understand the concept of a rare pattern or sequence. They don't like over excited posters that jump into every thread with a cheer leading kind of an interruption to it. So just stay on topic here and you will be fine.
FENDER YOUR HERE !
Hi Fender and Gizmotron,
I was also banned for trying to stop the attacks on Fender. The things I said were the things Steve should have said long before I did. I never used profanity but firmly stated my case.
Soon, the people left over there will be all of the negative attackers....then what will they do? Argue and attack each other?? ;D
Anyway, I'm thankful that here, a person can PEACEFULLY discuss roulette. Thanks for that Victor.
agreed. Sharing of ideas would be the ideal :D
lets have fun with this people :D
Cheers
Hamsup
Quote from: FENDER1000 link=topic=55. msg582#msg582 date=1274293324
Scooby yes this is a better place. The latest I am banned from vls although I don't know why. And my thread the zone was removed. Seems this Steve charactor isn't democratic at all. And is being controlled by the negs. Puppet masters. . .
Hi Fender. Steve seems to be some sort of crackpot.
He has an obsession that you are Charles from 3 mill. com and a scam artist.
Best to avoid him and all the other crackpots over there :D
Quote from: moles40 link=topic=55. msg654#msg654 date=1274374933
Hi Fender. Steve seems to be some sort of crackpot.
He has an obsession that you are Charles from 3 mill. com and a scam artist.
Best to avoid him and all the other crackpots over there :D
I am done with vls even if I wasn't banned its a waste of space on the internet. Any roulette forum that scorns new ideas and positive thinking is pointless.
Hey Fender,
Are you still going to post the real way to play the balance of 5 which you said is the real grail, not the hoax way?
here is your quote from VLS:
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THE BALANCE OF 5 IN its proper carnation it THE GRAIL. When I post the rules and start proofing this baby in here. You will all come to realize that.
Quote from: warrior on May 19, 03:06 PM 2010
FENDER YOUR HERE !
Hey Warrior how are you. Yes by now you know what happenned to me at vls but I could care less. We are now at a forum that has a point to being. And we can share our ideas freely.
Fender doing well i think it will be better here vls is going down hill.
Its great that Fender is here to continue teaching us the Zone. Its all gone from the other forum.
I have a question for Fender. Sometimes I can wait for hours and never see 9 in a row sleep. I see 7 in row a lot, can I start playing after 7? I don't want to violate any of the rules, but sometimes I get very tired waiting to play.
Quote from: BobsCar on May 20, 11:02 PM 2010
Its great that Fender is here to continue teaching us the Zone. Its all gone from the other forum.
I have a question for Fender. Sometimes I can wait for hours and never see 9 in a row sleep. I see 7 in row a lot, can I start playing after 7? I don't want to violate any of the rules, but sometimes I get very tired waiting to play.
Hi bob THIS IS INCREDIBLE I gotta ASK ya WHERE ARE YOU PLAYING? Hours without seeing a 9. What are you waiting for? Forget triggers, if you don't get hardly any jump straight in from spin 5. What you are basically telling me is if you start betting on a dozen after its slept for 4 spins you are going to win virtually everyone by the 7th--8th spin? I think you need to start makin some serious money don't you?
Again are you observing this virtual winning certainty? I would be over the moon to know that for every 10 games I played I would win 8. And you say you would win 10--20 whatever in a row. GO FOR IT... ;D
FENDER QUESTION WHATS THE HIT RATE on the 8 spin on the zone over all the years you played. regards warrior.
Quote from: warrior on May 21, 07:20 PM 2010
FENDER QUESTION WHATS THE HIT RATE on the 8 spin on the zone over all the years you played. regards warrior.
Hi Warrior not 100% sure what you're asking me. Do you mean how many times its stayed inside 8 spins or how many times the game has ended on spin 8? Regard fender...
I ALWAYS BEHAVE KIND OF WELL LOL.
STUART
WHERE ARE THE RULES OF VICTORS LW METHOD :)
Quote from: FENDER1000 link=topic=55. msg760#msg760 date=1274538007
Hi Warrior not 100% sure what you're asking me. Do you mean how many times its stayed inside 8 spins or how many times the game has ended on spin 8? Regard fender. . .
YES FENDER HOW MANY TIMES IT ENDED ON THE 8 THANKS BUD.
Hi people
Steve here!
Just so you know I've just registered (again) after many years absence but I am not the Steve referred to earlier in this thread. Maybe I should alwyas sign off with Steve M and then you'll know it's me or use another name or just not worry!
regards
Steve M
Quote from: Steve Morgan on Jun 14, 01:12 AM 2010
Hi people
Steve here!
Just so you know I've just registered (again) after many years absence but I am not the Steve referred to earlier in this thread. Maybe I should alwyas sign off with Steve M and then you'll know it's me or use another name or just not worry!
regards
Steve M
You are velcome,Steve,who ever you are,Steve from NZ or Steve from
EU,as long as you are on board.
Bumping the Zone!! It's the only method I'm playing at the moment and still the best in my opinion. You must follow the rules to the letter and not chase losses though, I got burned 2 or 3 times, got carried away, the usual story... But if you're patient and want to make 4-5 units a day, it's the best method out there.
I've tried a few tweaks but ended up going back to the original rules in the end. Anyone playing the Zone at the moment, in its original form or with tweaks?
I'm guessing that's a "no" then... :-\
Tested the zone a little lately, however with my own stlye of play.
no waiting for losing run before playing.
playing all dozens/colums at the same time.
trigger = dozen/colum miss 5 times then 1,1,2,3 progression for that dozen to show, if still no show after the progression and one more spin...meaning its slept for 10 spins then place 1 unit on each of the 2 dozens/colums that are streaking stopping bets at first loss.
so ever time a dozen or colum sleeps for 9 spins we lose -8units max.
whenever a D/C has lost the progression we never bet on that dozen again with a progression.
the 0 can never be part of a dozen sleeping example
33
12
20
0
13
24 25--36 hasn't shown in 5 spins but the 0 is in tracking so we say 25--36 has only slept for 2 spins
the 0 counts a normal loss during betting.
bankroll needed 40units.
stop-loss = when had your fun and in profit
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FENDER MAY HAVE THIS strategy SPOT ON AND IT doesn't NEED NO TWEEKS BUT HAY, IV HAD A THEW SUCCESFULL SESSION ON THE AUTO WHEEL. play money :-[
MATTJONO
Hi Guys
Sorry to dig up an old thread but I was wondering if anyone still uses this method and with what success ?
The thing is I cant seem to grasp what Fender (Im assuming this was copied and pasted) is trying to get across at times
He goes from saying we should stop at the 4th bet if we win to saying go for a hatrick between bet 6 and 12
Would someone be kind enough to translate it for me please
Many thanks
Heres the rules for the zone ...yee har giddy up ....some people need a break from law of the third etc etc
This was batted around as much as Vaddi Schmaddi and no stone left unturned.
It lost
Thanks for the feed back