Adding each dominant Colour in each Street on the Carpet and setting the Sum(Colour) in play:
Progression may be applied with 1124
street sum play
---------------------------
1.2.3 = 1+3 = 4 BLACK
4.5.6 = 4+6 = 10 BLACK
7.8.9 = 7+9 = 16 RED
10.11.12 = 10+11= 21 RED
13.14.15 = 13+15= 28 BLACK
16.17.18 = 16+18= 34 RED
19.20.21 = 19+21= 40 BLACK
22.23.24 = 22+24= 46 BLACK
25.26.27 = 25+27= 52 RED
28.29.30 = 28+29= 57 RED
31.32.33 = 31+33= 64 BLACK
34.35.36 = 34+36= 70 RED
EXAMPLE -200 Spins:
4 -
31 W
10-
10
19 W
3 -
30
17 W
10-
28
32 W
11-
8
12 W
23-
15 W
15-
30
30
5
31 W
11-
36 W
3 -
34
0
14
20 W
2 -
10 W
15-
23
16
11 W
4 -
19
9
26 W
36-
4
34 W
28-
11
0
18 W
9 -
21 W
15-
1
34
26 W
30-
26
9 W
11-
2
23 W
11-
36 W
1 -
36
31 W
5-
13 W
23-
1
1
20 W
33-
13 W
13-
19
31 W
22-
13 W
31-
9
34
21
16 L
25-
31
3 W
21-
9
27
11 W
24-
26 W
1 -
14
22 W
13-
30
12
5
4 W
34-
10
0
21 W
3 -
12
24 W
36-
19 W
10-
15
36 W
30-
15
5 W
33-
3
7
11 W
8-
0
7 W
7 -
10
27 W
24-
23
31 W
28-
4
14 W
10-
28
28
18 W
36-
10
2
18 W
7 -
19 W
22-
8 W
36-
20
2
8
8 L
28-
11
10
12 W
32-
32
31 W
13-
16
27
15 W
21-
10 W
31-
8 W
17-
12 W
0
22-
8 W
0
32-
3
20 W
2 -
10 W
30-
17
14 W
2 -
6 W
10-
2
25 W
0
35-
36 W
19-
10 W
18-
23 W
17-
32 W
13-
31 W
33-
27
15 W
8 -
5 W
16-
19 W
10-
19 W
36-
27 W
6 -
1
30
28 W
4 -
Hi Compa and thanks for sharing the part II!
I tested it in RX, you maybe not like it but I like to do some testing there. Do you suggest only live wheel?
I think I did it right. Example:
11 came up. That is 21 RED. So bet RED with progression 1,1,2,4
Another one:
29 came up. That is 57 RED, so bet RED.
and
19 came up. that is 40 black. So bet black.
Is this right?
I lost 6 progressions. You can see in the attached bankroll
Fripper
No problem! Keep it coming.
Cheers!
I know it is some time ago but has anyone tested this further or had any successful results/sessions?
Just wondered if any decision was made about this method...
Anyhow, What u think??
Regards,
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 24, 04:15 AM 2010
I know it is some time ago but has anyone tested this further or had any successful results/sessions?
Just wondered if any decision was made about this method...
Anyhow, What u think??
Regards,
A.
Could U bring the details of the Red and Black up-to the front of the forum
and show fellows what the method is- in Ur own words of course.
i know we can go backwards in time (forum past) and see the words of the originator,
but it would be great to hear from U as to how U have gone on with the idea, and Ur testing results.
Hi Chrisbis,
Well I think it self-explanatory as at the top of the thread - although I cannot fathom the mystery/theory of WHY to bet those colours... Maybe others can offer enlightenment.
Compa suggested using 1,1,2,4 prog but seems to get a good share of hits inside 4 bets so here I tried it using the MAXSIM progression which starts: 1,2,4,5 because I wanted to ensure making a profit of +1 if a hit occurs in the first three bets...
With the MAXSIM (designed for craps) you need to be sure to get regular hits though so system needs to be reliable.
[table=,]
Spin,Number,=Type=,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,19,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red W
3,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
4,7,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red W
5,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
6,1,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Red W
7,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
8,24,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : Black W
9,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
10,18,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : Black
11,35,Bet,2,4,-2,2,505,2 : Black W
12,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
13,14,Bet,1,2,-1,1,506,1 : Red W
14,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
15,10,Bet,1,2,-1,1,507,1 : Black W
16,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
17,12,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506,1 : Black
18,35,Bet,2,4,-2,2,508,2 : Black W
19,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
20,22,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,507,1 : Red
21,9,Bet,2,4,-2,2,509,2 : Red W
22,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
23,29,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : Red
24,25,Bet,2,4,-2,2,510,2 : Red W
25,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,510,
26,33,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,509,1 : Red
27,6,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,507,2 : Red
28,16,Bet,4,8,-4,4,511,4 : Red W
29,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,511,
30,27,Bet,1,2,-1,1,512,1 : Red W
31,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512,
32,35,Bet,1,2,-1,1,513,1 : Black W
33,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,513,
34,8,Bet,1,2,-1,1,514,1 : Black W
35,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,514,
36,11,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,513,1 : Red
37,5,Bet,2,4,-2,2,515,2 : Red W
38,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,515,
39,16,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,514,1 : Black
40,31,Bet,2,4,-2,2,516,2 : Black W
41,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,516,
42,5,Bet,1,2,-1,1,517,1 : Red W
43,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,517,
44,27,Bet,1,2,-1,1,518,1 : Red W
45,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,518,
46,11,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,517,1 : Red
47,17,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,515,2 : Red
48,17,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,511,4 : Red
49,2,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,506,5 : Red LOST
50,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
51,13,Bet,6,12,-6,6,512,6 : Black W
52,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512,
53,20,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,505,7 : Red
54,4,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,497,8 : Red
55,32,Bet,9,18,-9,9,506,9 : Red W
56,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
57,33,Bet,10,0,-10,-10,496,10 : Red
58,2,Bet,11,0,-11,-11,485,11 : Red
59,32,Bet,12,24,-12,12,497,12 : Red W
60,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
61,10,Bet,13,26,-13,13,510,13 : Black W
62,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,510,
63,4,Bet,9,18,-9,9,519,9 : Black W
64,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,519,
65,2,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,518,1 : Red
66,28,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,516,2 : Red
67,27,Bet,4,8,-4,4,520,4 : Red W
68,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,520,
69,9,Bet,1,2,-1,1,521,1 : Red W
70,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,521,
71,15,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,520,1 : Red
72,21,Bet,2,4,-2,2,522,2 : Red W
73,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,522,
74,10,Bet,1,2,-1,1,523,1 : Black W
75,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,523,
76,5,Bet,1,2,-1,1,524,1 : Red W
77,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,524,
78,10,Bet,1,2,-1,1,525,1 : Black
79,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,525,
80,29,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,524,1 : Red
81,16,Bet,2,4,-2,2,526,2 : Red W
82,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,526,
83,19,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,525,1 : Black
84,5,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,523,2 : Black
85,26,Bet,4,8,-4,4,527,4 : Black W
86,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,527,
87,31,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,526,1 : Red
88,26,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,524,2 : Red
89,27,Bet,4,8,-4,4,528,4 : Red W
90,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,528,
91,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,527,1 : Red
92,35,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,525,2 : Red
93,24,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,521,4 : Red
94,3,Bet,5,10,-5,5,526,5 : Red W
95,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,526,
96,13,Bet,3,6,-3,3,529,3 : Black W
97,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,529,
98,16,Bet,1,2,-1,1,530,1 : Red W
99,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,530,
100,15,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,529,1 : Red
[/table]
+29 in 100 spins.
max drawdown=33
A.
Atlantis, Thats a VERY Good Result!
Cheers and Merry X-mas to all
If aiming for a modest +3 profit - but need plenty of patience and fast spins preferably :)
Using same numbers and Compa's color idea derived from streets... but flat-betting for 10-bet cycles.
Betting ONCE only after trigger (not 4 times) then using NEXT number as a fresh trigger.
If required increase unit value by +1 for next cycle of 10. (if less bank total than previous cycle)
Always reset to 1 at start of next cycle if level or ahead of overall best high.
[table=,]
Spin,Number,=Type==,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,19,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Black L
3,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
4,7,Bet,1,2,-1,1,500,1 : Red W
5,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
6,1,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red W
7,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
8,24,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Black W
9,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
10,18,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Black L
11,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
12,25,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red W
13,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
14,14,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Black L
15,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
16,5,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red W
17,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
18,35,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red L
19,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
20,22,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Red L ;B=500; Stay@1u
21,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
22,30,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red W
23,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
24,25,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red W
25,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
26,33,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red L
27,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
28,16,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Black L
29,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
30,27,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red W
31,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
32,35,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Black W
33,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
34,8,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Black W
35,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
36,11,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : Black W
37,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
38,19,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : Black L
39,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
40,31,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : Red L ;B=502; Stay@1u
41,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
42,5,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Black L
43,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
44,27,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red W
45,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
46,11,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red L
47,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
48,17,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Red L
49,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
50,14,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Black L
51,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
52,27,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Black L
53,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
54,4,Bet,1,2,-1,1,499,1 : Black W
55,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
56,27,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Black L
57,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
58,2,Bet,1,2,-1,1,499,1 : Black W
59,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
60,2,Bet,1,2,-1,1,500,1 : Black W ;B=500; Incr to 2u
61,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
62,15,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498,2 : Red L
63,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
64,22,Bet,2,4,-2,2,500,2 : Black W
65,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
66,28,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : Black W
67,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
68,9,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504,2 : Red W
69,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
70,17,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,502,2 : Red L
71,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
72,21,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500,2 : Black L
73,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
74,10,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : Black W
75,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
76,5,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500,2 : Black L
77,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
78,10,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : Black W
79,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
80,29,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500,2 : Red L ;B=500; Stay@ 2u
81,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
82,2,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498,2 : Red L
83,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
84,5,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Black L
85,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
86,11,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,494,2 : Red L
87,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
88,26,Bet,2,4,-2,2,496,2 : Black W
89,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
90,12,Bet,2,4,-2,2,498,2 : Red W
91,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
92,35,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Red L
93,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
94,3,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,494,2 : Black L
95,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
96,13,Bet,2,4,-2,2,496,2 : Black W
97,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
98,16,Bet,2,4,-2,2,498,2 : Red W
99,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
100,15,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Red L ;B=496; Incr to 3u
101,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
102,1,Bet,3,6,-3,3,499,3 : Red W
103,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
104,28,Bet,3,6,-3,3,502,3 : Black W
105,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
106,1,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,499,3 : Black L
107,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
108,22,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,496,3 : Red L
109,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
110,20,Bet,3,6,-3,3,499,3 : Black W
111,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
112,29,Bet,3,6,-3,3,502,3 : Black W
113,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
114,31,Bet,3,6,-3,3,505,3 : Black W
115,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505, : ZERO
116,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
117,23,Bet,3,6,-3,3,508,3 : Red W
118,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
119,6,Bet,3,6,-3,3,511,3 : Black W
120,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,511,
121,0,Bet,3,0,-1.5,-1.5,509.5,3 : Black ;ZERO; repeat
122,22,Bet,3,6,-3,3,512.5,3 : Black W ;B=512.5; dec to 1u
[/table]
Opportunities to quit occur here:
@Spin35 +3
@Spin37 +4
@Spin39 +3
@Spin68 +4
@Spin114 +5
@Spin117 +8
@Spin119 +11
@Spin121 +9.5
@Spin122 +12.5
Highest Bet=3
Lowest Bankroll 494/500
A.
I have been testing this method. And it does VERY WELL. I dont think the maxsim progression is a good idea for this though. Remember, slow and steady wins the race. Through all the sessions I have tested every one of them has hit +5 somewhere within 100 spins
Quote from: Big EZ on Dec 24, 11:14 AM 2010
I have been testing this method. And it does VERY WELL. I don't think the maxsim progression is a good idea for this though. Remember, slow and steady wins the race. Through all the sessions I have tested every one of them has hit +5 somewhere within 100 spins
Hi Big EZ,
Yes. Slow and Steady to build profits using safer way than Maxsim is prolly way to go on reflection. Agreed. I think Carsch posted a nice progression somewhere that might be better (although think it involved parlay..)
Anyhow, the way I showed above is quite definately SLOW at times as you can see - but who cares as long as it can be STEADY profit winner. Thanks.
Big EZ, did you play original Compa prog suggestion or develop your own?
A.
I use another progression. As long as you can hit around 50% of your bets it allows you to stay in the game and turn a little bit bigger profit then the 1-1-2-4 suggested by Compa. And as you can see (if you tested) that this selection hits very often. I still am not sure why it works, but it does.
I have been using this method in the casino recently and have been very pleased even though all I have to play on is the American wheel 0/00. Compa said not to use the 0/00 wheel but as far as I can tell with my testing and live play that it still works.
Please Big EZ tell us your progression you use?
Regarding the 10-bet cyclic prog - I just tried it with continuous betting for real money and reached my goal of +3 in 9 spins. In other words, after each bet, I did not wait for a fresh number to spin before playing the appropriate color referenced in Compa's table. Just used the color indicated by the LAST spun number. In this particular session I won inside the first cycle so never needed to flat bet more than 1 unit. :)
1st Cycle @ 1u
===========
1. W +1
2. L +0
3. L -1
4. W +0
5. L -1
6. W +0
7. W +1
8. W +2
9. W +3 *STOP
Cheers,
A.
I would suggest a new bet selection here,instead of 1,1,2,4=8 units,but
1,1,1,3 on parlay basis;=6un.
1 W=2un.next bet----L=
1 W=2un.next bet----L=
1 W=2un.next bet----L=
3 un. to return the 3 un. back......can even skip this last bet.
Since have noticed lot of hits on 3 first spins I think this could be more
effective with less investements.
Just a Christhmas thought.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 02:23 AM 2010
I would suggest a new bet selection here,instead of 1,1,2,4=8 units,but
1,1,1,3 on parlay basis;=6un.
1 W=2un.next bet----L=
1 W=2un.next bet----L=
1 W=2un.next bet----L=
3 un. to return the 3 un. back......can even skip this last bet and play once more
1 un.on parlay W=return 3 un.back,L=4 un.in cycle instead of 8 units.
Since have noticed lot of hits on 3 first spins I think this could be more
effective with less investements.
Just a Christhmas thought.
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 24, 02:54 PM 2010
I just tried it with continuous betting for real money and reached my goal of +3 in 9 spins. In other words, after each bet, I did not wait for a fresh number to spin before playing the appropriate color referenced in Compa's table. Just used the color indicated by the LAST spun number. In this particular session I won inside the first cycle so never needed to flat bet more than 1 unit. :)
Instead of flatbetting in cycles of 10, I like George's idea for EC betting posted in a different thread...
GLC wrote:
Quote
I have playing around with another bet sequence that has showing good results.
Not a lot different from some others, but maybe a little safer.
It's lose 3 up 1 for EC's.
In other words, when you lose 3 times, you go up 1 more unit.
It doesn't matter how many times you win at that level.
The only time you change the bet size after a win is if you are at a new high, then reset.
Only when you lose 3 times (remember, it doesn't have to be in a row and usually isn't) do you increase by 1 unit.
This works with single line systems or multi-line systems.
If you want it to be even safer, you could wait for 4 or 5 losses before you increase.
Of course, the larger the number before increasing, the closer you get to a flat bet.
Run it through some of your previous sessions and see how it looks compared to other progressions.
I know it's not much new, but you just never know when the big light will come on.
I will post a real session result later. :)
The only mod I will make to George's suggestion is to reset when LEVEL OR AHEAD.
A.
Here is first session with George's EC suggestion and using Compa's street color table for the selections (continuous betting)
Compa's Table
===========
street sum play
---------------------------
1.2.3 = 1+3 = 4 BLACK
4.5.6 = 4+6 = 10 BLACK
7.8.9 = 7+9 = 16 RED
10.11.12 = 10+11= 21 RED
13.14.15 = 13+15= 28 BLACK
16.17.18 = 16+18= 34 RED
19.20.21 = 19+21= 40 BLACK
22.23.24 = 22+24= 46 BLACK
25.26.27 = 25+27= 52 RED
28.29.30 = 28+29= 57 RED
31.32.33 = 31+33= 64 BLACK
34.35.36 = 34+36= 70 RED
German Casino Duisburg 21 Dec 2010: Table 0211
======================================
[table=,]
Spin,Number,=Type==,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Red L
3,21,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Black L
4,26,Bet,1,2,-1,1,499,1 : Black W
5,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Red L Incr@2
6,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Black L
7,21,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,494,2 : Black L
8,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,492,2 : Black L Incr@3
9,20,Bet,3,6,-3,3,495,3 : Black W
10,8,Bet,3,6,-3,3,498,3 : Black W
11,15,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,495,3 : Red L
12,26,Bet,3,6,-3,3,498,3 : Black W
13,9,Bet,3,6,-3,3,501,3 : Red W Reset
14,32,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red W Reset
15,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Black W Reset
16,0,Bet,1,0,-0.5,-0.5,502.5,1 : Black 0
17,29,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503.5,1 : Black W Reset
18,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502.5,1 : Red L
19,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503.5,1 : Black W Reset
20,2,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504.5,1 : Black W Reset
21,28,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505.5,1 : Black W Reset
22,31,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,504.5,1 : Red L
23,35,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505.5,1 : Black W Reset
24,6,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,504.5,1 : Red L
25,25,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503.5,1 : Black L
26,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502.5,1 : Red L Incr@2
27,31,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500.5,2 : Red L
28,16,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498.5,2 : Black L
29,0,Bet,2,0,-1,-1,497.5,2 : Red 0
30,22,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,495.5,2 : Red L Incr@3
31,9,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,492.5,3 : Black L
32,22,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,489.5,3 : Red L
33,7,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,486.5,3 : Black L Incr@4
34,21,Bet,4,8,-4,4,490.5,4 : Red W
35,1,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,486.5,4 : Black L
36,15,Bet,4,8,-4,4,490.5,4 : Black W
37,19,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,486.5,4 : Black L
38,1,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,482.5,4 : Black L Incr@5
39,24,Bet,5,10,-5,5,487.5,5 : Black W
40,20,Bet,5,10,-5,5,492.5,5 : Black W
41,4,Bet,5,10,-5,5,497.5,5 : Black W
42,14,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,492.5,5 : Black L
43,24,Bet,5,10,-5,5,497.5,5 : Black W
44,31,Bet,5,10,-5,5,502.5,5 : Black W
45,2,Bet,5,10,-5,5,507.5,5 : Black W Reset
46,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,508.5,1 : Black W Reset
47,28,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509.5,1 : Black W Reset
48,26,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508.5,1 : Red L
49,13,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,507.5,1 : Red L
50,31,Bet,1,2,-1,1,508.5,1 : Black W
51,20,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509.5,1 : Black W Reset
52,27,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508.5,1 : Black L
53,16,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509.5,1 : Red W Reset
54,14,Bet,1,2,-1,1,510.5,1 : Red W STOP
[/table]
+10.5 in 54 spins
Highest Bet=5
Max Drawdown=23
There were several opportunities to exit with at least the required +3 profit.
Cheers,
A.
I vowed I would not gamble on Xmas day - but just could not wait to try... Completed 3 separate "real money" sessions today with Ã,£1 units on live online low limit auto roulette using principles above:
+3 in 3 spins
+3 in 7 spins
+3 in 3 spins
Lucky - no doubt! Nevertheless, a welcome and speedy result for the start of REAL trials :)
Now back to the mince pies.
A.
I'm for the first time looking at this thread.
I was trying to understand it, and I think I got it, but I don't get some Atlantis bets :s
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 25, 06:42 AM 2010
German Casino Duisburg 21 Dec 2010: Table 0211
======================================
[table=,]
Spin,Number,=Type==,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Red L
3,21,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Black L (shouldn't it be red here?) (20+21=41 --> corresponding number is 5 )
[/table]
Quote from: A3on on Dec 25, 09:35 AM 2010
I'm for the first time looking at this thread.
I was trying to understand it, and I think I got it, but I don't get some Atlantis bets :s
Hi A3on,
Compa derives the color by adding the DOMINANT color on the street of the number.
So in your example above for 20B you therefore add 19+21=40 (4+0=4) = BLACK.
Black is the color to bet.
Hope you got it ;)
A.
I got it !
Thanks Atlantis :thumbsup:
What progression do you use?
1124 and if a progression is lost just start over?
Just made a quick test playing this but only Flat bet
Spins: 668
Bets made: 652
Bets Lost: 341
Bets won: 311
Profit: -30 units
hello alfonso, do you have the numbers used?
do they show a profit if a progression is applied to the same numbers?
cheers.
This progression that I use is something that I found on a forum from years ago. Not sure if you guys are familiar with it, but I am going to share it and everyone can tell me what they think. I have tested this method with this progression and the results are good. And this is how I currently play.
Progression....
You always start with a 1 unit bet. You dont go to the next step in the progression (backwards or forwards) until you win a bet. And no bet is ever over 4 units.
Down 2 units then bet 2 units
Down 3 units then bet 2 units, if win bet 1
Down 4 units then bet 2 units, if win bet 2
Down 5 units then bet 3 units, if win bet 2
Down 6 units then bet 3 units, if win bet 2, if win bet 1
Down 7 units then bet 4 units, if win bet 2, if win bet 1
Down 8 units then bet 4 units, if win bet 2, if win bet 2 again
Let me know what you guys think.....
Here is a short example for clarification. I play it EXACTLY as the rules originally layed out by Compa.
15
32
19
16
10 -2
8
25 0
33
1
20 0
9
11
7 0
13
6 1
9
9 2
13
18
22 2
21
25
26 2
14
30
2 2
34
26
11
22
11
20
13 -1
23
22 1
26
23 2
Please let me know what you think. Compa I would like your input on this as well
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 25, 06:42 AM 2010
German Casino Duisburg 21 Dec 2010: Table 0211
======================================
[table=,]
Spin,Number,=Type==,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Red L
3,21,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Black L
4,26,Bet,1,2,-1,1,499,1 : Black W
5,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Red L Incr@2
6,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Black L
7,21,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,494,2 : Black L
8,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,492,2 : Black L Incr@3
9,20,Bet,3,6,-3,3,495,3 : Black W
10,8,Bet,3,6,-3,3,498,3 : Black W
11,15,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,495,3 : Red L
12,26,Bet,3,6,-3,3,498,3 : Black W
13,9,Bet,3,6,-3,3,501,3 : Red W Reset
14,32,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red W Reset
15,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Black W Reset
16,0,Bet,1,0,-0.5,-0.5,502.5,1 : Black 0
17,29,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503.5,1 : Black W Reset
18,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502.5,1 : Red L
19,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503.5,1 : Black W Reset
20,2,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504.5,1 : Black W Reset
21,28,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505.5,1 : Black W Reset
22,31,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,504.5,1 : Red L
23,35,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505.5,1 : Black W Reset
24,6,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,504.5,1 : Red L
25,25,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503.5,1 : Black L
26,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502.5,1 : Red L Incr@2
27,31,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500.5,2 : Red L
28,16,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498.5,2 : Black L
29,0,Bet,2,0,-1,-1,497.5,2 : Red 0
30,22,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,495.5,2 : Red L Incr@3
31,9,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,492.5,3 : Black L
32,22,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,489.5,3 : Red L
33,7,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,486.5,3 : Black L Incr@4
34,21,Bet,4,8,-4,4,490.5,4 : Red W
35,1,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,486.5,4 : Black L
36,15,Bet,4,8,-4,4,490.5,4 : Black W
37,19,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,486.5,4 : Black L
38,1,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,482.5,4 : Black L Incr@5
39,24,Bet,5,10,-5,5,487.5,5 : Black W
40,20,Bet,5,10,-5,5,492.5,5 : Black W
41,4,Bet,5,10,-5,5,497.5,5 : Black W
42,14,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,492.5,5 : Black L
43,24,Bet,5,10,-5,5,497.5,5 : Black W
44,31,Bet,5,10,-5,5,502.5,5 : Black W
45,2,Bet,5,10,-5,5,507.5,5 : Black W Reset
46,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,508.5,1 : Black W Reset
47,28,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509.5,1 : Black W Reset
48,26,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508.5,1 : Red L
49,13,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,507.5,1 : Red L
50,31,Bet,1,2,-1,1,508.5,1 : Black W
51,20,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509.5,1 : Black W Reset
52,27,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508.5,1 : Black L
53,16,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509.5,1 : Red W Reset
54,14,Bet,1,2,-1,1,510.5,1 : Red W STOP
[/table]
+10.5 in 54 spins
Highest Bet=5
Max Drawdown=23
I ran through these spins and ended up with a +7 at the end.
+7 in 54 spins
Highest bet = 2
Max Drawdown = 2
10
20
21 0
26
20
14 0
21
14
20 0
8
15
26
9 -1
32
6 0
0 ......here i use the spin before for bet selection
29 1
20
6 2
2
28 3
31
35 4
6
25
10 4
31
16
0
22 3
9
22
7 3
21
1
15 3
19
1
24 3
20
4 4
14
24 5
31
2 6
6
28 7
26
13
31
20
27 5
16
14 7
Atlantis......what program do you use to get the charts like that. It looks like something I would be interested in
Quote from: Big EZ on Dec 26, 02:40 AM 2010
Atlantis......what program do you use to get the charts like that. It looks like something I would be interested in
Hi BigEZ,
I used the export betting history option in roulette Xtreme (uxsoftware) program and saved as a text file. Then I added the RouletteForum.cc "table" tags at the head and foot of the text file and copied and pasted into the forum as a normal REPLY.
But you don't absolutely need a program - you can make your OWN tables... Please read this from Victor:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/features'-reference/(table-)-tag-easy-comma-separated-tables!/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/features'-reference/(table-)-tag-easy-comma-separated-tables)
Your progression looks interesting especially since you bet no more than 2u.
When you tested with my numbers did you use Compa's original way (bet up to 4 times then wait for fresh number) or the continuous betting as I did??
Reason being I cannot seem to follow how you staked it on each spin and I would like to understand it - so maybe perhaps you could repost showing the amount placed per spin?
Thanks in advance.
A.
check out these numbers that just hit
came after 84 spins
28
29
13
1
36
26
28
22
32
5
Up to those hittin I was doing ok ???
Quote from: Big EZ on Dec 26, 02:13 AM 2010
This progression that I use is something that I found on a forum from years ago. Not sure if you guys are familiar with it, but I am going to share it and everyone can tell me what they think. I have tested this method with this progression and the results are good. And this is how I currently play.
Progression....
You always start with a 1 unit bet. You don't go to the next step in the progression (backwards or forwards) until you win a bet. And no bet is ever over 4 units.
Down 2 units then bet 2 units
Down 3 units then bet 2 units, if win bet 1
Down 4 units then bet 2 units, if win bet 2
Down 5 units then bet 3 units, if win bet 2
Down 6 units then bet 3 units, if win bet 2, if win bet 1
Down 7 units then bet 4 units, if win bet 2, if win bet 1
Down 8 units then bet 4 units, if win bet 2, if win bet 2 again
Let me know what you guys think.....
Here is a short example for clarification. I play it EXACTLY as the rules originally layed out by Compa.
Hi Big EZ,
Ok. I figured out how you do your progression. I followed it successfully through your 2 examples and arrived at exact same results. In both cases you are using the original Compa way (max of 4 bets per trigger color and waiting for fresh number to spin before playing again) - and I now think this best advised coupled with the progression/method you posted. So I think this way is better with original Compa rules rather than my suggested cycles or continuous betting...
Thanks for your great progression that seems like it might be a good companion to fit Compa's EC way :)
One question - what happens if you go down more than 8 units?
Thanks,
A.
Big EZ,
Here I try your progression on some real spins.
Can you let me know if it looks like I played it right?
*EDIT - Session will follow due to errors spotted...
BigEZ, Can you please clarify your progression more in depth so as to clear up any misunderstandings in operating it? A more explanatory or fuller detailed session should suffice.
Many thanks.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 26, 10:04 AM 2010
One question - what happens if you go down more than 8 units?
Atlantis,
If you go down more then 8 units you just keep betting 4 units, no bet is ever over 4 units. You could set a stop loss if you wish just incase the session from hell comes, but usually this bet selection coupled with the progression it normally recovers. But you can never be to safe. I use a stop loss of 40 units personally.
So you like the progression then eh? 8)
Hi BigEZ,
Am I right in thinking that if you do not get a win in the first 4 bets the progression would be:
1
1
1
1
wait for next trigger and continue with bet of 1u?
1
A.
Yes that is correct. I am using the EXACT rules that compa layed out except for the progression.
Hi BigEZ,
Thanks for confirmation. by the way, I suppose you already know, but your progression holds up extremely well if used with another EC system that bets up to 4 times on a trigger.
I have found it works v. good on Trigger: bet ONLY after RRR or BBB on the opposite color for max 4 bets (or stop at a winner) using your exact same progression.
+26.5 in 361 real spins
max drawdown=3
highest bet=2
It is DEFINATELY worth a look! :)
A.