Let me present to the forum my second to last offering. Now before I lay the guidelines (RULES) of a method I conceived and have used in my bag for the last two years. I want to make it clear, this is not a grail. But its a very solid method when played (you guessed it) HIT AND RUN. Also because you are playing for 3 units a game. You can play 3 games a day. That is what I do. Winning streaks over 100 are possible. And its a nice addition to have I think to the others already known to you on this forum. I think its possibly one of the best even chance methods. That doesn't actually bet on an EVEN CHANCE. Okay the rules...
(1) We record spins for the LINES (DOUBLE STREETS) until we have 3 unique LINES. Example,
(1-6)--(7-12)--(25-30) Here you have your 3 unique lines, this completes PHASE 1 of the method.
(2) We now continue to record spins until we either get three hits on one, two or ALL of those LINES. Or, we get three hits NOT on any of those lines. If we only get one hit then a hit on a different line, they become void. EXAMPLES,
(1-6)--(7-12)--(25-30)***(7-12)--(7-12)--(25-30)--This qualifies a GAME.
(1-6)--(7-12)--(25-30)***(13-16)--(31-36)--(31-36)--This qualifies a GAME.
(1-6)--(7-12)--(25-30)***(7-12)--(31-36)--This voids a potential GAME.
(3) When we have a qualifying game if PHASE2 gave us three matches to our 3 unique LINES we now bet using a 4 step progresion (45 units RISK) That one of the next 4 spins hits one of the remaining 3 LINES. If PHASE 2 gave us three NON-MATCHES to our 3 unique LINES. We now bet that one of the next 4 spins gives us a MATCH to one of our 3 unique LINES.
PROGRESSION 1-1-1---2-2-2---4-4-4---8-8-8
(4) You stop at a win, and I recommend playing 3 or so random games throughout the day. 15 wins matches a progression. But as I said before winning streaks over a 100 can and do happen. 40/1 being the average win to loss delivery.
So there you have it PHASE 3. If anyone is interested please ask any questions you like. I will wade through my records and give an up to date report on my results tomorrow. Thankyou...
The CRUCIAL STIPULATION is it MUST be three hits on them or three hits not on them. This completes PHASE 2 of the method.
Thank you!
Very nice John, I like the sound of this method a lot.
Low risk/High hit ratio = good combination
Good man Legend keep us winning..
Lets not get caught up in the negative net, those boys crashed out long ago, I dont get caught up in those post it get off track an ugly
I got the all the evidence i need
Quote from: strato1985 on Jul 04, 06:10 PM 2011
Good man Legend keep us winning..
Lets not get caught up in the negative net, those boys crashed out long ago, I don't get caught up in those post it get off track an ugly
I got the all the evidence i need
Thanks guys, yes I should know better anyhow. But I bounce back like a tennis ball. And lets get it back on track.. ;D ;D ;D
Thanks. Rules understood. Now some testing.
Regards
Drazen
Thank you JL, I for one am having good success using your advice and systems. I look forward to learning phase3 also. :thumbsup:
Hi JL,
Do you get many sessions where the game is choppy and keeps voiding the phase 2 stage?
From memory what would be the longest wait for a bet?
How long is the average wait for a bet?
Thanks.
Quote from: Skakus on Jul 04, 06:23 PM 2011
Hi JL,
Do you get many sessions where the game is choppy and keeps voiding the phase 2 stage?
From memory what would be the longest wait for a bet?
How long is the average wait for a bet?
Thanks.
Hi Skakus, yes you might wait up to 25--40 spins to get a game. BUT, do not be TEMPTED to go after say two matches or two non matches. Those three for or against respresent the POWERPOINT. Of the method. I was stung a few times in the early days because I went one spin too early. Keep to the plan. And you should reach a very healthy profit margin. Catch you all tomorrow...
I will help test
At the mo i earn pretty good money so its quicker for me to build a big bank roll from working hard playing roulette little unit size 3 pounds !!
I barley have time/ concentarte for two games after work (PB/P4)
Its also a good slow way to progress and build bankroll and confidence
hey john dont forget to warn clothdog about the 0/00 wheel !!!! jokes
Quote from: strato1985 on Jul 04, 06:42 PM 2011
I will help test
At the mo i earn pretty good money so its quicker for me to build a big bankroll from working hard playing roulette little unit size 3 pounds !!
I barley have time/ concentarte for two games after work (PB/P4)
Its also a good slow way to progress and build bankroll and confidence
hey john don't forget to warn clothdog about the 0/00 wheel !!!! jokes
Yeah Lol! He will be reporting three matching ZEROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Right I am outta here.
...oh so this is not this H/G....
are you still planning to release your continous play H/G?
Quote from: ophis on Jul 04, 08:48 PM 2011
...oh so this is not this H/G....
are you still planning to release your continous play H/G?
Hey OPHIS as far as i know JL said he would be releasing it tonight(well for me as its 7 am here where i live) or tomorrow night for the rest of you.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 04, 05:51 PM 2011
Let me present to the forum my second to last offering. Now before I lay the guidelines (RULES) of a method I conceived and have used in my bag for the last two years. I want to make it clear, this is not a grail. But its a very solid method when played (you guessed it) HIT AND RUN. Also because you are playing for 3 units a game. You can play 3 games a day. That is what I do. Winning streaks over 100 are possible. And its a nice addition to have I think to the others already known to you on this forum. I think its possibly one of the best even chance methods. That doesn't actually bet on an EVEN CHANCE. Okay the rules...
(1) We record spins for the LINES (DOUBLE STREETS) until we have 3 unique LINES. Example,
(1-6)--(7-12)--(25-30) Here you have your 3 unique lines, this completes PHASE 1 of the method.
(2) We now continue to record spins until we either get three hits on one, two or ALL of those LINES. Or, we get three hits NOT on any of those lines. If we only get one hit then a hit on a different line, they become void. EXAMPLES,
(1-6)--(7-12)--(25-30)***(7-12)--(7-12)--(25-30)--This qualifies a GAME.
(1-6)--(7-12)--(25-30)***(13-16)--(31-36)--(31-36)--This qualifies a GAME.
(1-6)--(7-12)--(25-30)***(7-12)--(31-36)--This voids a potential GAME.
(3) When we have a qualifying game if PHASE2 gave us three matches to our 3 unique LINES we now bet using a 4 step progresion (45 units RISK) That one of the next 4 spins hits one of the remaining 3 LINES. If PHASE 2 gave us three NON-MATCHES to our 3 unique LINES. We now bet that one of the next 4 spins gives us a MATCH to one of our 3 unique LINES.
PROGRESSION 1-1-1---2-2-2---4-4-4---8-8-8
(4) You stop at a win, and I recommend playing 3 or so random games throughout the day. 15 wins matches a progression. But as I said before winning streaks over a 100 can and do happen. 40/1 being the average win to loss delivery.
So there you have it PHASE 3. If anyone is interested please ask any questions you like. I will wade through my records and give an up to date report on my results tomorrow. Thankyou...
The CRUCIAL STIPULATION is it MUST be three hits on them or three hits not on them. This completes PHASE 2 of the method.
Very well explained JL !
10/10 :thumbsup:
I won't be able to test for a while as I'm not playing at the moment, but when I restart I will test this baby :xd: :twisted: :xd:
Thank you for sharing with us mate, your a very valued Member of our Community ;D
Quote from: Twisteruk on Jul 05, 02:53 AM 2011
Very well explained JL !
10/10 :thumbsup:
I won't be able to test for a while as I'm not playing at the moment, but when I restart I will test this baby :xd: :twisted: :xd:
Thank you for sharing with us mate, your a very valued Member of our Community ;D
Thanks Twister, hope you are doing okay.
Quote from: ophis on Jul 04, 08:48 PM 2011
...oh so this is not this H/G....
are you still planning to release your continous play H/G?
Yes people I will defo release it this Sunday, taking Twisters wise advice not to put too many systems in circulation at the same time, as they often get under appreciated in the process. After Sunday I am done. Its up to you guys from there. As XXVV wisely stated.
Your ATTITUDE may be the single most important factor, for your fate with this game. I totaly agree.
Hello JL
Quote
(1-6)--(7-12)--(25-30)***(7-12)--(31-36)--This voids a potential GAME.
In this case would you use the 2 last results (7-12) and (31-36) as qualifiers toward the next 3 unique lines (PHASE 1) - or would you simply now use (25-30), (7-12) and (31-36) being the 3 last results and go into PHASE 2?
Or is it just that after the void is apparent you then retrack from the very beginning?
Thank you for posting your latest method - and looking forward to Sunday again! ;)
A.
I did a nice test on a 3 x30 grid 253
211
114
561
222
524
121
614
251
166
541 see if you can find the triggers I won on 3 triggers in no time 2 went to the second progression. i forgot to mention when you get a trigger just bet dont wait bet under the line that was the trigger,and just keep recording
Quote from: atlantis on Jul 05, 06:42 AM 2011
Hello JLIn this case would you use the 2 last results (7-12) and (31-36) as qualifiers toward the next 3 unique lines (PHASE 1) - or would you simply now use (25-30), (7-12) and (31-36) being the 3 last results and go into PHASE 2?
Or is it just that after the void is apparent you then retrack from the very beginning?
Thank you for posting your latest method - and looking forward to Sunday again! ;)
A.
Hi Atlantis, no so long as you have three consecutive unique LINES they become your new PHASE 1. Example
7-12--31-36--19-24**1-6--7-12-this game is void as you can see. So we now take 19-24--1-6--7-12 as our new PHASE 1. And hope the next three spins are matches or non matches to qualify a game and PHASE 2. Hope that clears that queerie up.
Quote from: epitaph on Jul 04, 06:23 PM 2011
Thank you JL, I for one am having good success using your advice and systems. I look forward to learning phase3 also. :thumbsup:
Epitaph hi, I am glad to hear I have helped you with my methods. I realize they and the way I play aren't for everyone. But those that learn and use them close to how I do. Will surely benefit. PATTERN BREAKER and PHASE 3 have been making me steady profits for at least two years apiece.
They are endorsed 100% by me. PATTERN 4, DIVIDE AND CONQUER and CODE 4 Are more like the new kids on the block. But for strikerate and turnover they are tops. D&C is the best fast paced method I've yet seen with such a modest risk. Its Scoobies gem.
CODE 4 Is frightenning, I know 80 units is a big risk to a newbie. But I just can't see this thing losing too often played 2 by 2. I will update my results for CODE 4 later. And give you over two years worth of results for PHASE 3.
Quote from: warrior on Jul 05, 09:53 AM 2011
I did a nice test on a 3 x30 grid 253
211
114
561
222
524
121
614
251
166
541 see if you can find the triggers I won on 3 triggers in no time 2 went to the second progression. I forgot to mention when you get a trigger just bet don't wait bet under the line that was the trigger,and just keep recording
[/quote) Warrior, Katilla and Atlantis. The masters of experimentation. Morph it, evolve it, own it. Nice...
Hi John,
Thanks for your explanation and clear up.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jul 05, 11:15 AM 2011
Hi John,
Thanks for your explanation and clear up.
A.
You are welcome Atlantis, one thing I forgot to mention in the rules. If you ever get this 1-6--7-12--13-18 or this 19-24--25-30--31-36 while recording for PHASE 1 its a no play. As you will basically be playing HIGH AGAINST LOW. And vice versa. And as we know there can be 10 or more highs or lows at anytime.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 05, 12:03 PM 2011
You are welcome Atlantis, one thing I forgot to mention in the rules. If you ever get this 1-6--7-12--13-18 or this 19-24--25-30--31-36 while recording for PHASE 1 its a no play. As you will basically be playing HIGH AGAINST LOW. And vice versa. And as we know there can be 10 or more highs or lows at anytime.
Hi JL,
You just anticipated and answered what was going to be my next question! I was going to say in that instance would be easier to just bet on the OPPOSITE H/L even chance but I can see it should be as you said and treated as a No-qualifier at the PHASE ONE level.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jul 05, 12:08 PM 2011
Hi JL,
You just anticipated and answered what was going to be my next question! I was going to say in that instance would be easier to just bet on the OPPOSITE H/L even chance but I can see it should be as you said and treated as a No-qualifier at the PHASE ONE level.
A.
Most definately Atlantis, it was all trial and error with me in the beginning. I used to risk it, and YES, most of the time you will win anyway. But then youll be staring at 10 or more highs or lows one day too. I stopped playing it after that. It broke a winning streak of 57 games not good.
"...After Sunday I am done."--JohnLegend
I sincerely hope not. Artists Rafael, Michaelangelo and the like didn't stop making masterpieces, and neither should you JL. Moreover with the new energy that comes with a new system, you also provide step by step instructions and encouragement. (Roulette can be very intimidating, especially if you haven't been successful in the past.) And with Twister's advice in mind, you could release a new system once or twice a year or so, if nothing else to help keep others contributing to this community. Thank you for all you've done thus far.
:thumbsup:
So, in review, if U get this result(result= anything landing in these Double Streets/Lines) for PHASE 1:-
[felt]
1@DS1
1@DS2
1@DS3
[/felt]
Or, this result:-
[felt]
1@DS4
1@DS5
1@DS6
[/felt]
Then its a no bet, and re-track for different Lines/Double Streets.
Is this correct John/folks?
Quote from: chrisbis on Jul 05, 01:45 PM 2011
So, in review, if you get this result(result= anything landing in these Double Streets/Lines) for PHASE 1:-
[felt]
1@DS1
1@DS2
1@DS3
[/felt]
Or, this result:-
[felt]
1@DS4
1@DS5
1@DS6
[/felt]
Then its a no bet, and re-track for different Lines/Double Streets.
Is this correct John/folks?
Yes Chrisbis, I learnt through trial and error. You may get away with it many times. But you will eventually get caught.
So, in essence, we are looking for ONE result from one of the three, and TWO from the other?
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jul 05, 01:44 PM 2011
"...After Sunday I am done."--JohnLegend
I sincerely hope not. Artists Rafael, Michaelangelo and the like didn't stop making masterpieces, and neither should you JL. Moreover with the new energy that comes with a new system, you also provide step by step instructions and encouragement. (Roulette can be very intimidating, especially if you haven't been successful in the past.) And with Twister's advice in mind, you could release a new system once or twice a year or so, if nothing else to help keep others contributing to this community. Thank you for all you've done thus far.
:thumbsup:
Thanks Proof, I will still contribute to the forum and help those who ask for help. But I won't be pushing any new concepts for the foreseeable future. I have to start really building a serious financial fortress to rattle the cage in Europe next spring. Anytime you feel negative and down. Go and read what XXVV wrote on the PATTERN BREAKER thread. That man could write a presidents speech.
You talk of me being an inspiration. Well that post inspired me. And I want you all to start believing this game is for the taking, IF you apply a good method with the right attitude. You will reach a point where you can never be defeated. I never drift too far from the reality of things even with my enthusiasm and hunger for success. You will always suffer minor setbacks. UNLESS YOU HAVE THE PATIENCE TO PLAY THE HOLY ONE.
Did I not mention that a HOLY GRAIL HAS A PRICE? ??? I think you all know what that is by now. But that's the point. You get a method on Sunday that may not lose in your lifetime. But as XXVV beautifully conveyed. YOU STILL MUST WORK FOR THAT SUCCESS. There is no gold bar on a plate people. Sorry if you thought there was. Its there for you, if you have what it takes to get it.
Hi JL
Great post my friend and I can only echo what you said about XXVV,
yes he could write a presidents speach.
And yes YOU STILL MUST WORK FOR THAT SUCCESS,
Thanks JL,
D1.
Quote from: D1 on Jul 05, 02:50 PM 2011
Hi JL
Great post my friend and I can only echo what you said about XXVV,
yes he could write a presidents speach.
And yes YOU STILL MUST WORK FOR THAT SUCCESS,
Thanks JL,
D1.
Well dear professor Richard is high educated person. Writter and lecturer after all also. Very wise good man.
Regards
Drazen
JL have you tested this method with consecutive play?
If it takes 20-60 spins to get a result, isnt that enough "time" between games to basically consider it a 'hit and run' but you dont run you just wait for the next oppurtuinty which might come within the 60 spins?
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 05, 02:41 PM 2011
Thanks Proof, I will still contribute to the forum and help those who ask for help. But I won't be pushing any new concepts for the foreseeable future. I have to start really building a serious financial fortress to rattle the cage in Europe next spring. Anytime you feel negative and down. Go and read what XXVV wrote on the PATTERN BREAKER thread. That man could write a presidents speech.
You talk of me being an inspiration. Well that post inspired me. And I want you all to start believing this game is for the taking, IF you apply a good method with the right attitude. You will reach a point where you can never be defeated. I never drift too far from the reality of things even with my enthusiasm and hunger for success. You will always suffer minor setbacks. UNLESS YOU HAVE THE PATIENCE TO PLAY THE HOLY ONE.
Did I not mention that a HOLY GRAIL HAS A PRICE? ??? I think you all know what that is by now. But that's the point. You get a method on Sunday that may not lose in your lifetime. But as XXVV beautifully conveyed. YOU STILL MUST WORK FOR THAT SUCCESS. There is no gold bar on a plate people. Sorry if you thought there was. Its there for you, if you have what it takes to get it.
JL are you currently playing the holy one or are you playing other methods?
Juiced
Quote from: Juiced91 on Jul 05, 03:13 PM 2011
JL are you currently playing the holy one or are you playing other methods?
Juiced
Hi Juiced I am playing it yes. I am not even being tested at present. The progression is 6 steps. I rarely go beyond 3. Its nothing groundbreaking in terms of concept. It was always there in my results Juiced I just couldnt see it till now.
Regarding PHASE 3. I suppose it is long enough to consider it Hit and Run. Here is why I play broken SINGULAR GAMES. PHASE 3 has two enemies. A multi repeater on a single number. And of course ZERO.
Let me give you a real example of a game I played last week for PHASE 3. To illustrate this..
(1-6) (25-30) (7-12)**PHASE 1 COMPLETE
21---36---14---**PHASE 2 COMPLETE, BET FOR A MATCH TO PHASE 1
14---14---14---8---WIN STEP 4 of the progression. A real testy game look at number 14, this is why I don't play CONSECUTIVELY. I rarely get caught with MULTI REPEATERS and ZEROS.
There is a reason for why I play the way I do....
If played live it must take you a while to get your results?
But then again as you always say patience will lead you to victory (in this game anyway)
Thanks for the reply.
Quote from: Juiced91 on Jul 05, 04:01 PM 2011
If played live it must take you a while to get your results?
But then again as you always say patience will lead you to victory (in this game anyway)
Thanks for the reply.
Heres the thing Juiced you can get a game in 6 spins or 60. That is random at work again like THE PATTERN BREAKER. Random selects our bet. One of the reasons I believe both methods work.
PHASE 3 RESULTS UPDATE FOR JUST OVER 2 YEARS PLAY 05/07/2011
TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 2,244
TOTAL GAMES WON 2,195
TOTAL GAMES LOST 49
STRIKERATE APPROX 44/1
BALANCE 3,927 UNITS PLUS
LONGEST WINNING STREAK 151
SHORTEST WINNING STREAK 9
After a losing game I will double stakes for 1 game. The strikerate is good enough to never go above 45 units if you so choose. But contrary to some who say my Hit and Run play only yields results because I use heavy progressions. This is simply not true of methods like CODE 4 and PHASE 3. They are strong enough to profit on a single level 1 progression. Raising to a higher level simply pushes your profit margin higher faster.
this is not a good system with high progression required on streets....sure you may make winning sessions, but 1 losing session will end this system like all the pattern 4
Quote from: Halba1 on Jul 05, 06:43 PM 2011
this is not a good system with high progression required on streets....sure you may make winning sessions, but 1 losing session will end this system like all the pattern 4
So what is exactly the objective of this post and the reasons for what you predict will happen? >:(
This is an EC bet and its very F****n' hard to lose in the long run with an EC.
And for all it's worth it is LINES or DOUBLESTREETS not streets system. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Halba1 on Jul 05, 06:43 PM 2011
this is not a good system with high progression required on streets....sure you may make winning sessions, but 1 losing session will end this system like all the pattern 4
Well you could try flat betting and gives a call when you grow a long beard.
Quote from: Halba1 on Jul 05, 06:43 PM 2011
this is not a good system with high progression required on streets....sure you may make winning sessions, but 1 losing session will end this system like all the pattern 4
Halba, the trade is 15 winning games to match a lost progression. Thats not bad. With CODE 4 its 80 winning games to match a lost progression. But its all relative. To the potential return.
Its not quite the same as putting 45 units on red or black and hoping for the best. If you arent prepared to take a risk, you cant enjoy the reward.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 05, 05:24 PM 2011
PHASE 3 RESULTS UPDATE FOR JUST OVER 2 YEARS PLAY 05/07/2011
TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 2,244
TOTAL GAMES WON 2,195
TOTAL GAMES LOST 49
STRIKERATE APPROX 44/1
BALANCE 3,927 UNITS PLUS
LONGEST WINNING STREAK 151
SHORTEST WINNING STREAK 9
After a losing game I will double stakes for 1 game. The strikerate is good enough to never go above 45 units if you so choose. But contrary to some who say my Hit and Run play only yields results because I use heavy progressions. This is simply not true of methods like CODE 4 and PHASE 3. They are strong enough to profit on a single level 1 progression. Raising to a higher level simply pushes your profit margin higher faster.
Hello JL
What about going 5 step progression? 1,2,4,8,16 In your losses did u record the next spin 2 find out f going extra step would make a difference? Total risk is still relatively modest 93 units.
So far works like a charm :) i played 2 5 games sessions @ PP Slingshot. Never went beyond 2 step.
Also tested against around 2000 recorded live spins @ Smartlive. Roughly 60 winning sessions.
Thx 4 posting John ;D
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jul 06, 06:42 AM 2011
Hello JL
What about going 5 step progression? 1,2,4,8,16 In your losses did you record the next spin 2 find out f going extra step would make a difference? Total risk is still relatively Omodest 93 units.
So far works like a charm :) I played 2 5 games sessions @ PP Slingshot. Never went beyond 2 step.
Also tested against around 2000 recorded live spins @ Smartlive. Roughly 60 winning sessions.
thanks 4 posting John ;D
Glad you like it Robeenhuut its a solid method. That's a very good point. Give me a day or two to check my records. And I will come back with the stats. I always record a game to conclusion. To my immediate memory few losing games go beyond the fourth step of the progression.
I'm not sure of the number, but its less than 12 I do know that. I'm currently on a winning streak of 48 games myself....
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 06, 08:52 AM 2011
Glad you like it Robeenhuut its a solid method. That's a very good point. Give me a day or two to check my records. And I will come back with the stats. I always record a game to conclusion. To my immediate memory few losing games go beyond the fourth step of the progression.
I'm not sure of the number, but its less than 12 I do know that. I'm currently on a winning streak of 48 games myself....
I like streets and lines systems so i might be biased. 4 me adding 1 extra step 4 1,2,4,8,16 prog would make sense. U risk additional 48 units 2 gain 3. Still makes sense 4 me because u can get it bk relatively quickly and increase strike rate. Of course not 4 everybody.
I play other streets system and adding extra step paid off.
U just have 2 estimate yr strike rate and design yr prog accordingly ;D
Roulette 101 ;)
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 06, 08:52 AM 2011
Glad you like it Robeenhuut its a solid method. That's a very good point. Give me a day or two to check my records. And I will come back with the stats. I always record a game to conclusion. To my immediate memory few losing games go beyond the fourth step of the progression.
I'm not sure of the number, but its less than 12 I do know that. I'm currently on a winning streak of 48 games myself....
JL,
What happend to the Holy Grail method you were talking about posting on Sunday? Did you decide you are not posting it? I was looking forward to testing it to exhaustion...
Quote from: ll l ll l lll ll on Jul 06, 10:32 AM 2011
JL,
What happend to the Holy Grail method you were talking about posting on Sunday? Did you decide you are not posting it? I was looking forward to testing it to exhaustion...
Yeah, thinking on the advice of Twister, I decided to hold it until this Sunday. Besides, HOLY GRAIL or not. I already know most of you won't have the patience to test/use it anyway. A HOLY GRAIL comes at a price. that's why no-one really believes it exists.
I can't honestly say it will never lose either. What I can say is 31 units wiill never work harder for you. If it loses it will be so rare, it will have very little impact on your BR. I have around 26,000 spins where the progression isnt even being challenged. that's where I draw this outrageous boast from.
To me that's a HOLY GRAIL. Any method that wins 1000/1 or better is a grail plain and simple. It means basically you can never show negative figures. You own the game of roulette. The physics of the roulette wheel allow freak patterns to form once in a blue moon. But if its so rare it has no impact of any significance, then a functional method that is designed to exploit this is a grail as far as I'm concerned. And that's what I have here.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 06, 12:50 PM 2011
Yeah, thinking on the advice of Twister, I decided to hold it until this Sunday. Besides, HOLY GRAIL or not. I already know most of you won't have the patience to test/use it anyway. A HOLY GRAIL comes at a price. that's why no-one really believes it exists.
I can't honestly say it will never lose either. What I can say is 31 units wiill never work harder for you. If it loses it will be so rare, it will have very little impact on your BR. I have around 26,000 spins where the progression isnt even being challenged. that's where I draw this outrageous boast from.
To me that's a HOLY GRAIL. Any method that wins 1000/1 or better is a grail plain and simple. It means basically you can never show negative figures. You own the game of roulette. The physics of the roulette wheel allow freak patterns to form once in a blue moon. But if its so rare it has no impact of any significance, then a functional method that is designed to exploit this is a grail as far as I'm concerned. And that's what I have here.
Sounds good. Looking forward to it. I'll test it.
Hi JL
Played 200 live spins
9 bets
won 9 out of 9
one bet won at step 4
the other 8 all won in the first 2 steps
will continue testing
D1.
Quote from: D1 on Jul 06, 02:04 PM 2011
Hi JL
Played 200 live spins
9 bets
won 9 out of 9
one bet won at step 4
the other 8 all won in the first 2 steps
will continue testing
D1.
Hi D1, yes you can win 20 in the first two steps then 4 in 4 steps. Out of interest the game that went to STEP 4. Were you betting FOR OR AGAINST PHASE 1? The reason I ask is of the 49 losses I have had. 34 of them came when betting against PHASE 1.
Hi JL
yes It went to the fourth step while betting against phase 1
D1.
Quote from: D1 on Jul 06, 04:37 PM 2011
Hi JL
yes It went to the fourth step while betting against phase 1
D1.
Yes D1 it is the weaker of the two selections. And I have considered waiting an extra spin when that one qualifies. If I had done my losses would be less.
For ROBEENHUUT, here is the breakdown of my 49 losing games
LOSSES FOR PHASE 1 (15)
LOSSES AGAINST PHASE 1 (34)
LOSSES STEP 4 of the progression 41
LOSSES STEP 5 of a virtual progression 6
LOSSES STEP 6 of a virtual progression 2
There you go Robeenhuut. If the PROGRESSION was 5 steps. I would only have lost 93 units 8 times in two years and over 2,000 games. Pretty good I think.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 06, 05:38 PM 2011
Yes D1 it is the weaker of the two selections. And I have considered waiting an extra spin when that one qualifies. If I had done my losses would be less.
For ROBEENHUUT, here is the breakdown of my 49 losing games
LOSSES FOR PHASE 1 (15)
LOSSES AGAINST PHASE 1 (34)
LOSSES STEP 4 of the progression 41
LOSSES STEP 5 of a virtual progression 6
LOSSES STEP 6 of a virtual progression 2
There you go Robeenhuut. If the PROGRESSION was 5 steps. I would only have lost 93 units 8 times in two years and over 2,000 games. Pretty good I think.
Hi JL
Thx 4 stats. So u would be appr. 1200 units more ahead. In the long run it makes sense f u r willing 2 risk extra 48 units :)
4 me looking at these numbers its no brainer :-[
Hi JL,
Thank u for sharing, going to have a Ho on this later today. It looks a very interesting and clever system! Hope everyone is having success with it so far.
Lucy
Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jul 07, 02:19 AM 2011
Hi JL,
Thank you for sharing, going to have a Ho on this later today. It looks a very interesting and clever system! Hope everyone is having success with it so far.
Lucy
You are welcome Lucy, the main thing is to stay with a method long enough to learn its strengths and common behaviour. Paper test it until you are confident. And over time you know it so well your reactions to a loss or extraordinary winning streak are instinctive.
PHASE 3 is capable of impressive results. Anyone who thinks 45 units is too much to risk on a game. Has to keep in mind you win 3 units per game. And at anytime you can be locked into a 50 plus winning streak. I'm currently 51/0 . And with this method and the way I play it that's no special event. Over the last two years I've broken the 100 barrier 7 times.
And when you consider it takes 15 wins to match a loss, you start to see the potential.
Line
1
5
2
1---->trigger1
6---->trigger2
4
3
3---->1st level bet trigger1 5-2-1 lines Lost
1---->1st level bet trigger2 2-1-6 and 2nd level bet trigger1 5-2-1
4 ----> won for both triggers
I love when this happens.
I triple my bet in this case. ;)
John, nice method.
Zer0Blue
GREAT METHOD ! looking forward to sundays
gift thanks John . :thumbsup:
Quote from: warrior on Jul 07, 09:07 PM 2011
GREAT METHOD ! looking forward to sundays
gift thanks John . :thumbsup:
Thanks Warrior,
Sundays method is the finale for me, and to use a quote from master Bruce. "It is like a finger pointing to the moon, CONCENTRATE ON THE FINGER, and you will miss ALL THAT HEAVENLY GLORY". The finger in this case is time. The heavenly glory is the unrealized potential by those who are too hung up on time...
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 08, 06:23 AM 2011
Thanks Warrior,
Sundays method is the finale for me, and to use a quote from master Bruce. "It is like a finger pointing to the moon, CONCENTRATE ON THE FINGER, and you will miss ALL THAT HEAVENLY GLORY". The finger in this case is time. The heavenly glory is the unrealized potential by those who are too hung up on time...
yes my friend :thumbsup:
And I will tweak the Holy Schmoly as usual. Holy Schmoly is each system or strategy which makes more than lose in long run. Advice to perfectionists: don't look the whole life for never losing system! Life is too precious.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Jul 08, 10:21 AM 2011
And I will tweak the Holy Schmoly as usual. Holy Schmoly is each system or strategy which makes more than lose in long run. Advice to perfectionists: don't look the whole life for never losing system! Life is too precious.
Hermes
Good advice Hermes, although I think this one comes as close to a perfect strikerate as you can get with not even 50 units on the line.
OTHER systems that boast grail like invincibility usually need three figured progressions to achieve this. That is what I have strived for. something that looks to have at worst a four figured strikerate. Yet can be played by even a newbie. The only requirement is....WELL you know...
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 08, 10:38 AM 2011
Good advice Hermes, although I think this one comes as close to a perfect strikerate as you can get with not even 50 units on the line.
OTHER systems that boast grail like invincibility usually need three figured progressions to achieve this. That is what I have strived for. something that looks to have at worst a four figured strikerate. Yet can be played by even a newbie. The only requirement is....WELL you know...
THE ONLY REQUIREMENT, PATIENCE AND ONE MORE THING MORE PATIENCE.
Quote from: warrior on Jul 08, 11:10 AM 2011
THE ONLY REQUIREMENT, PATIENCE AND ONE MORE THING MORE PATIENCE.
Yes Warrior, old Chinese proverb say better to wait for success than rush to failure.
And I know the only thing that keeps this game safe, is human beings inherent lack of the big P. I have witnessed the collapse of the human mind so many times playing this game.
You cant believe how someone could win over10,000 units and still leave with nothing some hours later. Their greed and ego got the better of them. No method means anything without self discipline.
"You can't believe how someone could win over10,000 units and still leave with nothing some hours later. Their greed and ego got the better of them. No method means anything without self discipline"
Very very true JL.
That is the most important rule to learn.
D1.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 08, 01:08 PM 2011
Yes Warrior, old Chinese proverb say better to wait for success than rush to failure.
And I know the only thing that keeps this game safe, is human beings inherent lack of the big P. I have witnessed the collapse of the human mind so many times playing this game.
You can't believe how someone could win over10,000 units and still leave with nothing some hours later. Their greed and ego got the better of them. No method means anything without self discipline.
Very wise words JohnL!
Yes, but another chinese proverb says "man who keeps hands in pockets feel c***y all day" :twisted:
Hello Dr Clothdog, I once made a Chinese proverb:
Tweet tweet says the parakeet :)
Johny where is the new Sunday bet method hanging? Not ready yet?
I am curious like old wibe.
Thanks Hermes
Same for me Hermes : i am eating my nails waiting for this method. My casino in France opens in 6 hours. I hope i will have time to understand. If not i will play code 4 which works perfectly on real tables.
Im thinking it will be on the line like all the Patterns one..see if my guess will be right.
Quote from: thepilot on Jul 10, 04:14 AM 2011
Same for me Hermes : I am eating my nails waiting for this method. My casino in France opens in 6 hours.
JOhn had promised it a few Sundays ago. Then it became the next sunday, now this sunday. Who knows. The guy has posted a lot of stuff. Do I care if he posts? Of course not. My world does not revolve around roulette or holy grail methods. I'm not holding my breath for him to post and waiting to run to the casino. My profession is taking care of sick people. I've posted all that I need to post for awhile. See you mates later.There are more important things in life than gambling. :(
CD
Let us have our pleasure Clothdog, it's not our fault if you have lost a lot of money yesterday. Sorry but you have the speech of a guy who just had a very bad session.....
Us, we enjoy roulette and specially John for all his good ideas.
Have a nice day
Don't be negative guys, if John promises he will deliver. St. John Babtist.
Hermes
Quote from: thepilot on Jul 10, 10:24 AM 2011
Let us have our pleasure Clothdog, it's not our fault if you have lost a lot of money yesterday. Sorry but you have the speech of a guy who just had a very bad session.....
Us, we enjoy roulette and specially John for all his good ideas.
Have a nice day
Hi Pilot, I will blame you for me not getting my last method on here in a hurry. Your man running round that square is the coolest icon I have ever seen its got me hypnotized LoL!!
Hey JohnLegend,
I feel sorry for Clothdog...... Think he's going through a dip..........
Will stay tuned as always......
Quote from: amk on Jul 10, 01:51 PM 2011
Hey JohnLegend,
I feel sorry for Clothdog...... Think he's going through a dip..........
Will stay tuned as always......
AMK fill me in please what happened? I am summarizing the method for posting about 8pm tonight...
This sleeping giant will be awoken as part of my assault on Bayes RNG,
I think that is one of the coolest post I have seen JohnLegend :)
One thing is for certain....
It is a sleeping giant
Quote from: amk on Jun 18, 04:52 PM 2012
I think that is one of the coolest post I have seen JohnLegend :)
One thing is for certain....
It is a sleeping giant
Oh yes AMK when the time is right PHASE 3 will be brought in to slay the RNG.
One more soldier reporting for duty sir! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Maui13 on Jun 19, 03:19 PM 2012
One more soldier reporting for duty sir! :thumbsup:
Yes attention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its virtually invincible played Hit and Run, when betting against the ball hitting the first 3 unique lines a total of ten times in a row. Which would be your PHASE 1* I.E
3,5,6-------PHASE 2* 3,3,6--------PHASE 3*3,4-----A win with Line 4. Added together. The other Trigger for betting isnt as strong. And I don't use it these days. This is an oppurtunist bet for me. If I am at a casino or online and see it staring me in the face. I go for it. I don't sit there waiting for 6 hits on the same 3 unique lines. But played this way its POWERFUL. Especially for one or two games then shut it down.
John....Ive read this over a few times and cant see a mention of what to do whan the little Green Bast*rd appears. Firstly in the first phase and then as you play on to see Phase 2 and 3
Sorry if you did mention but I cant see it.
Turner.
By the way....I find this method very interesting. I dont play the fat relative of the street usually but this one has my attention!
Also, clarity in explaining methods is important, and this explains well.
My appologies Turner if the goblin interrupts the first two phases you ignore it, As long as you have SIX HITS on the same 3 unipue lines its a go, 3 2 5__2 5 0 2 That is an example of a trigger including if zero interrupts it, We now bet on lines 1 4 6 for a max of four attempts stopping at a win, One other thing I need to make clear we never bet against 1 2 3 or 4 5 6 as we would basically be betting against high or low, And rand can often produce streaks of 11 or more on one or the other,
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 20, 01:40 AM 2012
My appologies Turner if the goblin interrupts the first two phases you ignore it, As long as you have SIX HITS on the same 3 unipue lines its a go, 3 2 5__2 5 0 2 That is an example of a trigger including if zero interrupts it, We now bet on lines 1 4 6 for a max of four attempts stopping at a win, One other thing I need to make clear we never bet against 1 2 3 or 4 5 6 as we would basically be betting against high or low, And rand can often produce streaks of 11 or more on one or the other,
In my opinion 1,2,4,8 progression here is not effective because often enough it goes 11+. And u suggested b4 as well 2 add an extra step n wait 4 7 hits instead of 6. I would call it dangerous opportunity bet.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 20, 01:40 AM 2012
I need to make clear we never bet against 1 2 3 or 4 5 6 as we would basically be betting against high or low, And rand can often produce streaks of 11 or more on one or the other,
Thanks John for the explanation.
As for the above quote, surely any group of 18 will sleep just like the man made groups of 18 on the betting layout. i.e odd/even, high/low, red/black.
Example.... lines 1, 4, 6 i.e 1,2,3,4,5,6,19,20,21,22,23,24,31,32,33,34,35,36 will sleep for 12 or more same as Odd, or Black or Low
In a test of 10k spins, Even slept for 19 spins on 1 occasion, and 12,13 was common.
When the same test indicates that streets can sleep for 122 spins, that is also 1,22,and 32 as a 3 number group. Streets are just groups of 3 looking all pretty.
So there is no reason to get sentimental about the fact that Phase 1 gave us LOW or HIGH, I think
Trust me played hit and run as I have outline losses will be rare, most wins come on the first bet, If you bet continuosly you are more prone to meet and 11 plus streak,
Quote from: turnerfeck on Jun 20, 06:15 AM 2012
As for the above quote, surely any group of 18 will sleep just like the man made groups of 18 on the betting layout. i.e odd/even, high/low, red/black.
In a test of 10k spins, Even slept for 19 spins on 1 occasion, and 12,13 was common.
So there is no reason to get sentimental about the fact that Phase 1 gave us LOW or HIGH, I think
Hi Turnerfeck,
Had this happen to me once in real casino some years ago. Was betting 3 lines and they did not hit for 20 spins. Busted my progression. Learnt a lot that night. :)
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 20, 06:32 AM 2012
Hi Turnerfeck,
Had this happen to me once in real casino some years ago. Was betting 3 lines and they did not hit for 20 spins. Busted my progression. Learnt a lot that night. :)
A.
jeeesurzzz!!! 20 is horrid!
So John.....do you agree with me that line 123 or 456 have no more chance of sleeping than 126 or 345. if we drop 123 in phz one, we have to drop any 3 unique lines.?
Quote from: turnerfeck on Jun 20, 07:00 AM 2012
jeeesurzzz!!! 20 is horrid!
So John.....do you agree with me that line 123 or 456 have no more chance of sleeping than 126 or 345. if we drop 123 in phz one, we have to drop any 3 unique lines.?
I had 16 but its not d point. This method was dead 4 almost one year until Vile posted something similar but it was based on flat betting or not stiff progression. Its already sort of hit n run due 2 waiting 4 trigger. N only difference between hit n run n continuous play is that in hit n run u will lose later because u play less games. It is that simple. You can play any pattern or matrix. If u play d same pattern it will happen after 100 or 1000 spins guaranteed. People that think otherwise live in a dream world. You can not win in d long run with method like Phase 3. Everybody who spends enough time watching d board will tell u that.
No math skills r needed. ;D Mr Vile method might work just because Phase 3 is not workable method. Repeats of 10+ within 3 lines just happen 2 often. Just 2 much quantity n not enough quality. But 4 somebody that's so busy with many methods n PR its quite understandable.
episode 3 of the m,aster JL :) seems it gonna be a long series with m,any seasons! keep on Jhon
Just let bayes get that RNG going and il show rather than talk about Hit and Runs value, Show the human factor at work, The discipline of settling for 5~10% profit max per session, Even when you know you could win more, The human mind is the weak link, Of the people playing for real, Few are mentally in the right place, For 8 year I wasnt, Penple like Chauncy47 and Warrior are the minority,
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 20, 08:51 AM 2012
Just let bayes get that RNG going and il show rather than talk about Hit and Runs value, Show the human factor at work, The discipline of settling for 5~10% profit max per session, Even when you know you could win more, The human mind is the weak link, Of the people playing for real, Few are mentally in the right place, For 8 year I wasn't, Penple like Chauncy47 and Warrior are the minority,
JL I like your enthusiasm ! good luck mate :) anything that makes profit stick with it.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 20, 08:51 AM 2012
Just let bayes get that RNG going and il show rather than talk about Hit and Runs value, Show the human factor at work, The discipline of settling for 5~10% profit max per session, Even when you know you could win more, The human mind is the weak link, Of the people playing for real, Few are mentally in the right place, For 8 year I wasn't, Penple like Chauncy47 and Warrior are the minority,
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
I guess i like 2 be in d majority. Its common sense. Majority is usually right but minority tries harder. ;D
Show us $$$$$. Coz we have not seen anything yet.....
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 20, 11:10 AM 2012
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
I guess i like 2 be in d majority. Its common sense. Majority is usually right but minority tries harder. ;D
Show us $$$$$. because we have not seen anything yet.....
Not in roulette the majority are always wrong. But we need them lets never forget that. I wont be showing you big money Robeenhuut. I will be showing all this long drawdown nonsense. And corection theory. Apply only to the fools who play long drawn out sessions.
When you play as I do yes you will lose. But you will always recover and move up to a new plateau again. None of this my method won for 5 years then on one cold dark weekend I gave it all back. Every method I play has one thing in common. CONSISTENCY. Its the make or break of all methods. If they do hit a rough patch as CODE 4 did recently. It should not destroy your total Bankroll. Setbacks in this game are to be expected.
Total wipeout. And you never had anything of worth to start with...