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Title: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: warrior on Oct 05, 06:49 PM 2011
An idea i had ,and testing have not seen this yet, but it could be tested on rx if someone has it.
Track 19 spins the dozen that has the most sleepers qualify meaning 6 and up if a tie just wait for a qualifyer, then bet that dozen for 19 spins ,tested 2000 live spins ,have not seen 10 losses in a row yet , there  you have something new . ;D
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: warrior on Oct 05, 09:53 PM 2011
When playing on your dozen once its qualified i keep tracking for the next cycle so i will have my next qualifier for my next game ,I'm averaging around 5 to 7 hits  within 19 spins i have a prog. that i use starting from the min. to the max ,starting from betting 2 lines to make up the dozen all the way to the inside numbers until i reach the max progression lets not forget that once the outside progression reaches the max you still have streets lines corners splits and straight # the  progression can go hi ,hopefully we never reach the point may luck be with us.
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: Jeromin on Oct 12, 12:54 PM 2011
How about waiting for a LL at the start of the sequence, then do a

1 1 2 3 4 6 9 13
losing 39 on a 10 L.

Looks interesting, there's definitely a balancing effect going on, and not very long term at that. A bit like the reds and blacks; since numbers are divided into columns on Wiesbaden, roughly 20 spins long, it's easy to see: two consecutive columns with a dominant colour,  (5/4 number difference ), nearly every time it switches to the other colour, and if they're level, it switches the following column.

Jeromin
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: Jeromin on Oct 12, 03:43 PM 2011
So I start testing from first of this month on Wiesbaden, and on day 2, table 2, fifth column starting with "26, 33..",  four first dozen numbers in 19, takes 13 steps from "20" to get a first dozen again. That said, most times the wins come quite quickly. Anyway, small sample testing by hand is probably pointless.

Jeromin
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: Optimist on Oct 12, 06:12 PM 2011
Quote from: birdhands on Oct 12, 04:50 PM 2011
In a sample of 30 million spins the longest a single dozen sleeps for is 15.  However if you take any 12 unique numbers to be a dozen you will see them sleep for 20 or more spins.

Hi Birdhands,

I think u made a mistake. Maybe you mean dozen repeat ?

DL
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: birdhands on Oct 12, 06:19 PM 2011
Oh yes. Oops.  My mistake; Warrior, please feel free to remove that post.  Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: warrior on Oct 12, 09:40 PM 2011
I think if this was tested on a big scale would be the only way to really know, takes a while with paper and pen.
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: Jeromin on Oct 13, 06:39 AM 2011
Quote from: warrior on Oct 12, 09:40 PM 2011
I think if this was tested on a big scale would be the only way to really know, takes a while with paper and pen.

I think the only type of productive roulette forum would be one where an in house tester tests every system, publishes the results and settles debates ( with a proviso for exception of Hit and Run systems, of course   ;) ) Either that or start learning Visual Basic myself.

Jeromin

Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: superman on Oct 13, 07:40 AM 2011
Quotewhere an in house tester tests every system, publishes the results

I used to do that, but as many of the tests failed I got branded negative or a maths head just trying to find fault, trust me, if I thought a system had any merit on paper I would go away and code it then test it against 3 different forms of random, my softwares inbuilt random function, playtech for speed and lastly either betvoyager OR dublinbet live wheel.

Some people don't want the truth as its usually dissapointing and they take it personally!!

Now, I just plug away on my own, still searching.
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: Jeromin on Oct 13, 08:33 AM 2011
Quote from: superman on Oct 13, 07:40 AM 2011

I used to do that, but as many of the tests failed I got branded negative or a maths head just trying to find fault, trust me, if I thought a system had any merit on paper I would go away and code it then test it against 3 different forms of random, my softwares inbuilt random function, playtech for speed and lastly either betvoyager OR dublinbet live wheel.

Some people don't want the truth as its usually dissapointing and they take it personally!!

Now, I just plug away on my own, still searching.

I'll make sure to let you know If I have something with potential. What kind of fool gives out to a tester when they're so few and necessary? Testers are like chefs: always flatter them if they cook for you for free, even if they have a bad day.
But then again, would I want to share a Holy Grail?  ;D

Jeromin
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: superman on Oct 13, 08:43 AM 2011
QuoteBut then again, would I want to share a Holy Grail?

Probably not, but you wouldn't know you had one until it was thoroughly tested, I have coded privately for many on this and other forums, confidentiality is always guaranteed.
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: warrior on Nov 15, 08:57 AM 2011
30000 went to 8 6 times, another 70000 anyone on want to code this please, paper and pen WARRIOR very tired
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: Tomla021 on Nov 15, 10:08 AM 2011

so track 19 spins, start betting for the least hit one 19 times? am I following?
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: warrior on Nov 15, 10:30 AM 2011
Quote from: Tomla021 on Nov 15, 10:08 AM 2011
so track 19 spins, start betting for the least hit one 19 times? am I following?
Yes thats correct.
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 10:36 AM 2011
Did 2 quick test as i am tired to aint been bed since the other night!

i got

WWLLLLLLWLWLLLLLLWLW
LLLLWLWWLLWLLWLLWWW
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 10:59 AM 2011
Heres another one

LLLLLLLLLLWLLWLWLL

is it really worth the bet with gettin little profit from it?
wudnt it be better to bet against it?

have you looked at what the cols act like?
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: warrior on Nov 15, 11:05 AM 2011
Quote from: StackBundles on Nov 15, 10:59 AM 2011
Heres another one

LLLLLLLLLLWLLWLWLL

is it really worth the bet with gettin little profit from it?
wouldn't it be better to bet against it?

have you looked at what the cols act like?
Betting  against is little profit as well ,sacrafise 2 units to make one, this is roulette there is no where you will make big profits playing this game,2 to 1 is a better return .
LWWWLLLLWWWLLLLLLLW
LLLWLWLLLWWLLWLLWLW WITH  A FIBO.
STACKS THE BET IS FOR 19 SPINS NOT 18.
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 11:40 AM 2011
Yeh i kno but im tired so it was rushed but say u get this LLLLLLLWLWLWLLLLLLL what happens now thats 19 but you havent finished on a win

do u keep betting till u hit?
Title: Re: THE SLEEPING TWELVES
Post by: warrior on Nov 15, 03:02 PM 2011
Quote from: StackBundles on Nov 15, 11:40 AM 2011
Yeh i kno but I'm tired so it was rushed but say u get this LLLLLLLWLWLWLLLLLLL what happens now that's 19 but you haven't finished on a win

do u keep betting till u hit?
STACK lets say you start your 19 spins correct,at the same time im tracking for the next 19 spins as they come in ,i have a 36 number tablet and i just color them in, if the number repeats i make a side note of it and its still counted as a spin, now because were betting every spin  thats up to the player to set his target,as far as reversing the bet you would have to creat triggers, i like this cause there is no waitng.