Hello
Somebody knows the system described here:
link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=6273.0 (link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=6273.0) ?
It really works?
Thank you to all. :smile:
:ooh:
I have to say I'm bit surprised to see this on here, is this my first post? anyways, checkout my reply on that thread. I think I got it now but still haven't played with real money yet. what is the progression again? 111223?
I think he mentioned that we should stop after 5 misses but I think we should stop after three.
You been playing with that system for long?
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jan 28, 05:26 PM 2012
Hello
Somebody knows the system described here:
link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=6273.0 (link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=6273.0) ?
It really works?
Thank you to all. :smile:
Quote from: Rquest09 on February 15, 2009, 02:04:58 AM
Ok Waaahome here is 114 live spins what would you have done here?
4
D8
D8
D2
/23 /17
D18
D21
/9 /17 /4 /36 /13
D13
/36 /17 /9
D4
/0 /34 /15 /31
D29
/13 /9
D7
/29 /0 /36 /10
D14
/29 /13 /20 /35 /24 /5 /35 /22
D24
/0 /17
D21
D17
/34 /21
D19
/14 /35 /3 /30 /5 /33 /18
D17
/1 /22 /30
D25
D26
/13 /23 /28 /14 /6
D5
/10 /0 /20 /8 /20 /8 /29 /2 /16 /10 /2 /0 /1 /30 /8
D10
/27
D29
/9 /14
D13
/1 /16
D13
/34 /2 /29
D25
/31
D36
/6 /15 /23
D24
/4 /18 /9
D3
D8
D6
/36
D36
/1 /26 /31 /4 /32
D34
Also try this:
No progression. After every D make a bet. So follow where ever the ball lands just follow it. but ONLY i repeat ONLY up to 5 times.
Jara did you ever follow for just 5Get it?
Try that and see how it recovers.
So see all your "reds" you would of got all the jumps the // the /// and the ////..... you win more even though you loose becouse u are betting 11 numbers.
Do the math and it makes sense, it will to your pocket.
try it with $5 chips.
Your every bet should be around 120 units with an extra on the repeat.
O yea, this is the only system that will catch all the repeats........ Get it? ;)
HERE ARE 1ST 20 spins from MPR game
6
23
9
3
33
15
4
33
14
10
28
15
23
6
27
22
16
29
36
24
On the FOBT this was great, but after winning for months, the FOBT just seemed to beat it, did the algo get changed ?
#3, the 9#'s of #3 collect #9 so bet 1-9, 3 spins later you'd win
#14 next #10 they connect so bet 7-15 win on #15
So you see its not bad idea, but FOBT seems to beat it, as it does double dozens, so the FOBT is all about the starting 37#'s, like on steves MPR at 9:30, that started 9/10 and at spin 40 had 25 of the starting 37#'s hit, 9+15=24 so 25,+1 on the 15 that on avg come.
not certain but was this a priyank method
Big Ben
You could look this over when you're fed up with Vaddi.
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jan 28, 05:26 PM 2012
Hello
Somebody knows the system described here:
link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=6273.0 (link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=6273.0) ?
It really works?
Thank you to all. :smile:
good thread at beginning but he got bashed a bit
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Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 22, 02:17 PM 2019
Big Ben
You could look this over when you're fed up with Vaddi.
Can you just simplify the explanations please?
I don't get it with tons of things to think of on top of this...
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Thats it for now; got to get set up for the world superbikes; from saint Steve country, G'day
Nice notto, I experimented with this last year after seeing it on VLS but I never felt confident that the full way he played was revealed, so I put it on pause and never went back to it.
Someone tell Pagan01 to join this thread. :thumbsup:
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Mako i'd rather play this way than try Vaddi.
Now i got fingers burnt on this because i used a 14 step prog on the 9 numbers.
Think about dozens; how many can a single dozen miss for? i've seen 34 spins. But i was covering streets 3-4-5; 1st doz asleep, 2nd/3rd going crazy, but not street 5
Don't Waaa say bet only 5 times.
Now the only number if you choose to play is spin35, #6 its not a trigger, but you might fancy betting it to hit again within 14 spins; so #'s 1 to 9, takes 12 spins
Take the #26 cover #'s 22 to 30 takes 2 spins
But better to wait for the trigger
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There's more if you can look
But General these numbers played perfect to win a bucket of KTF. Up to the 19th non-hit the average is 2 spins
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Now i lost on this once but should have listen to Waaa and only bet 5 times
Tracked Waaahome way; but a help was marking the actual spins on the mat.
You know 30 should come in 60 spins.
People say gut feeling; well seeing the non-hit that have hit and where non-hit have not hit helps to start a bet.
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Hey lads i have playing it my own way with pretty nice results so far. Prog 1 1 1 2 4 8 16...table broken into 4 sect plus 0 ex: 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36, +0.
wait for 3 sect to hit then bet the sect that is missing +0. Use prog n reset and re track on any hit or loss on 7th step. If 0 is hit reset but stay on that sect not hit. 1 session is 111 spins, so far 12 sessions.
1. +561
2. +1332
3. +378
4. +328
5. -134
6. +376
7. +472
8. +378
9. +164
10. -50
11. +526
12. +1038
bbb
1st it seems better to write horizontal; so you see letter D and /
The D is just waa's way of showing trigger to bet. / is if lose start a new line.
So 8-18-26-8-35-23-25; the 25 goes under D as its a trigger; why trigger.
If #1 hits and next #6 hits; the #6 is part of the 9#'s of the group for #1. Use streets to see the the connections. So #1 has streets 1-2-3 and #6 is a connection; so bet the 9#'s.
Some have confusion with this group, same for 28 to 36;streets 10-11-12.
If #4 hits and then #9; some think its trigger to bet #'s 1-9; but the connection is to bet #'s 4-12; streets 2-3-4; same as if #7 hit and then #9; #9 has no connection to street 1, its connection is 2-3-4
So #23 hit and then #25; #23 is streets 7-8-9; #25 is streets 8-9-10 the #23 is connected by #25's 3 streets, so #25 goes under D,indicating a trigger and bet the #'s in the 3 streets 22-30; so you can bet once or up to 5 times.
Now the next number is #31 miss, now decision do you bet up to 5 times or wait for another trigger. If bet 5 times, win on 5th attempt.
But the 1st attempt for a win is miss; so start a new line
The orange 27 is a win for #24 if you choose to bet up to 5 times
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So you basically wait for 2 consecutive spins to hit within a 3 street range (or 9 nrs range?) and play those 3 for up to 5 spins?
Yes, but the 9 nrs to the last spin and bet once or up to 5 times.
Now there are other options.
To choose between 1 spin or 5 spins: guts feeling or another trigger?
1 spin can miss but is it more often to hit in 5 is the question, i believe Waahome spins a few spins to see whats going on.
Bro won units on these
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Off out go over these later
Now look at the Generals unbeatable MPR (link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/02/25/sourcede3c5.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Ovfbx)(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/02/25/sourced0245.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/OvhPK)
1st trigger is #26; remember the trigger goes under the D, win #24, trigger didn’t take long, next trigger; No trigger; but there are options.
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Like all repeats there are gaps. Now we spin after the win; #35 is not a trigger, but if you look back #32 is connected to #35, so you could bet 28 to 36.
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Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 25, 12:19 PM 2019
Now look at the Generals unbeatable MPR (link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/02/25/sourcede3c5.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Ovfbx)(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/02/25/sourced0245.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/OvhPK)
1st trigger is #26; remember the trigger goes under the D, win #24, trigger didn’t take long, next trigger; No trigger; but there are options.
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Are you the top winner now? ::)
If you just want to work with going forward, the gap is opening, #34 has a connection with the #35, but that would be a loss.
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Are you General? :yawn:
But the #21 is connected to #18, you’d win on #17.
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The #1 is connected to #3, so you would win with #4.
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Again #17 has the connection to #21; you could win with #18.
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The decision is yours; you make the decision on how big the gap should be.
Or do like the General look for wobbly wheels; good luck with that :lol:
General 2Bobbet was on just now. Not hard; found that wheel yet :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Quote from: Roulettist on Feb 25, 12:45 AM 2019
Hey lads i have playing it my own way with pretty nice results so far. Prog 1 1 1 2 4 8 16...table broken into 4 sect plus 0 ex: 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36, +0.
wait for 3 sect to hit then bet the sect that is missing +0. Use prog n reset and re track on any hit or loss on 7th step. If 0 is hit reset but stay on that sect not hit. 1 session is 111 spins, so far 12 sessions.
1. +561
2. +1332
3. +378
4. +328
5. -134
6. +376
7. +472
8. +378
9. +164
10. -50
11. +526
12. +1038
Nice, good run, leep testing. Are you using RNG for the spins? I would flip it from table sectors to wheel sectors if I was going to test using downloaded spins....will give it a go when I get time. :thumbsup:
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 25, 07:40 AM 2019
bbb
1st it seems better to write horizontal; so you see letter D and /
The D is just waa's way of showing trigger to bet. / is if lose start a new line.
So 8-18-26-8-35-23-25; the 25 goes under D as its a trigger; why trigger.
If #1 hits and next #6 hits; the #6 is part of the 9#'s of the group for #1. Use streets to see the the connections. So #1 has streets 1-2-3 and #6 is a connection; so bet the 9#'s.
Some have confusion with this group, same for 28 to 36;streets 10-11-12.
If #4 hits and then #9; some think its trigger to bet #'s 1-9; but the connection is to bet #'s 4-12; streets 2-3-4; same as if #7 hit and then #9; #9 has no connection to street 1, its connection is 2-3-4
So #23 hit and then #25; #23 is streets 7-8-9; #25 is streets 8-9-10 the #23 is connected by #25's 3 streets, so #25 goes under D,indicating a trigger and bet the #'s in the 3 streets 22-30; so you can bet once or up to 5 times.
Now the next number is #31 miss, now decision do you bet up to 5 times or wait for another trigger. If bet 5 times, win on 5th attempt.
But the 1st attempt for a win is miss; so start a new line
The orange 27 is a win for #24 if you choose to bet up to 5 times
This is a good explanation, easy to understand thanks to the visual reference. Good job notto.
Quote from: Mako on Feb 25, 01:05 PM 2019
This is a good explanation, easy to understand thanks to the visual reference. Good job notto.
Made Waahome a millionaire it did! Supposedly
General found any wheels yet.
Just used trigger and gap going forward
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As you see streets 10-11-12 are sleep look at #30; 15 spins and no hit to these streets. So better to leave alone as 3rd dozen is quiet; only street 9 hitting. The connections of 8-9 and 25-24 have hit; so connection 16-17, will that be good choice.
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General plucked from the clouds ^-^
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I missed the 2nd 31 but there was a connection same as 6-3 but the #25 back to #23 is a connection
You make the decisions; use the trigger once or 5 times, triggers not coming look at the column can you make a connection? The General probably beyond his skill level
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Was triggers coming? look at #11 #13 gives trigger #18 so that gets a D now bet round #18; #20 gets D; bet round #20 and another win #21 so DDDD
Notto you jumped all over this today, excellent work. Very interesting seeing the results come in.
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That win is from the #'s2-4 connection, i said earlier i can bet for 14 spins; the win came. There were other triggers being bet.
Doubled the bank.
Again you decide gaps if triggers aren't coming. If you stick to the quoted 5 by Waaahome, you should be okay
Quote from: Mako on Feb 25, 01:04 PM 2019
Nice, good run, leep testing. Are you using RNG for the spins? I would flip it from table sectors to wheel sectors if I was going to test using downloaded spins....will give it a go when I get time. :thumbsup:
Yeah mate, im using RS for spins. Im gonna try on BV 1cent if i make it past 30 sessions with out going bust (bust is 1000 units for me). And i agree for live wheel id like to test wheel sectors. But so far so good...time will tell :wink:
Quote from: Mako on Feb 25, 01:04 PM 2019
Nice, good run, leep testing. Are you using RNG for the spins? I would flip it from table sectors to wheel sectors if I was going to test using downloaded spins....will give it a go when I get time. :thumbsup:
Mako, can I ask what the trigger would be and how you would incorporate wheel sectors? If you get two hits in a nine number section?
Thank you Mako
And thank you Notto for your valuable info.
These #'s are in the vaddi topic.
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#14 trigger win#16
#26 win #22
#4 win #2
#2 win #8 Waahome would say job done
Quote from: Irish88 on Feb 25, 06:38 PM 2019
Mako, can I ask what the trigger would be and how you would incorporate wheel sectors? If you get two hits in a nine number section?
Thank you Mako
And thank you Notto for your valuable info.
I haven't pulled out my previous data for this one and re-examined it yet, trying to finish up some testing on a few methods that are doing well currently.
It's easier when methods shit the bed early, I can close the book and move on, but when a couple win and win, and require manual testing which takes time, it eats into my schedule. Hopefully what I'm working on fails soon... :twisted: :twisted:
Looking forward to diving back into this though as Notto is providing excellent details, makes it easier to experiment with different versions.
Granps on the wheel
The only part is you will have to place the numbers on their true position on the mat.
Last post shows 7:01 its 12:01 here. Has clock gone wrong and all posts disppear?
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So 38 spins and only 10 of the starting 37 left. At 60 spins there should really be only 7 of the starting 37 left.
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Now #34 is a connection. You can see there's been just 2 triggers using the wheel. With non-hit hitting quick more repeats too come so will connections happen
58 spins
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Now connections are not happening like on the true mat.
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Last connection has won, but 2 spins left and will we end with 7 of the remaining, repeats must be happening as at spin 38 there was 10 remaining
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So 29 of the starting 37 have hit. Game is playing perfect to known averages.
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So we got a connection and back in profit.
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The remaining non-hit; still not hit, so how many repeats since last non-hit landed?
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Connection is 21-15; of the remaining non-hit 5-7-13-16-17-18-23-24; only #17 is being covered, how many repeats of the hit numbers has there been, so we must be near to a non-hit landing
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connection missed but one of the remaining hit.#13
GENERAL i used the time machine, what an idiot he is
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General it's magic, job done
Notto have you tried applying this en masse to your archive of spins from the daily TV show yet?
Curious to see if the hitrate changes from the RNG testing you've done this week. :thumbsup:
Mako
On VLS, page 6; rquest gives a set of spins Waa says something there that made this.
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He gave this warning, I bracket it for you
(but ONLY i repeat ONLY up to 5 times.)
The unit win did make me laugh, Turbos take 3000 to win 3000
Come on General shithead let's hear it; will it be you can't trust R-sim ( cough) thats the other tossers MO
As BigBroBen would say job done.
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Don't give that old chesnut not enough spins
Doesn’t work on long distance.
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Mar 02, 03:40 PM 2019
Doesn’t work on long distance.
Okay how many spins before heads south