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Title: If you have a holy grail
Post by: GoranNF on Feb 13, 05:09 PM 2012
Hi all,


Imagine this situation. Say you have a holy grail and you have shared it with respectable persons who you got to know over the internet. You have a good bond. What happens if some of them shares the Holy Grail?


How long will you be able to use this system? I mean, if it comes public, it might be banned or the game of roulette will be changed right? Whats your take on this?


And how much does a casino allow you to win constantly? Say you want to earn 1000 dollar a day, will the online casino ban you?


looking forward to some opinions.
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: Gizmotron on Feb 13, 05:37 PM 2012
If there is a grail it would kill Blackjack, Baccarat, Roulette, and Craps all in one blow.

There is no mathimatical way to beat Roulette. You must beat the randomness. If that way gets out then that would wreck everything.
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: GoranNF on Feb 13, 05:45 PM 2012

I am not here to discuss if such thing exists, I want to talk about what the consequences would be!
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: Tomla021 on Feb 13, 05:53 PM 2012
My guess is stuff like this: link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9097.0 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9097.0)

just dont hit one place too hard? hard to guess what would happen?
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: Gizmotron on Feb 13, 05:55 PM 2012
It's already happened once before. Card counting sent the casinos in a whirlwind. Now that they know that most people can't do it they let them try. If they do good it is then that they kick them out.

If that grail is easy to learn then the casinos will find new rules to stop it if they can.
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: GARNabby on Feb 13, 06:18 PM 2012
Quote from: Gizmotron on Feb 13, 05:55 PM 2012
Now that they know that most people can't do it they let them try. If they do good it is then that they kick them out.
These days, they "cheat you back" and throw you out the front door... even they who merely seem to win over the long-run.

The best strategy is to not play their games, unless that means to "play" those... to the point that the greater government and its cronies can't practise also the above lies.
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: Maan on Feb 14, 09:01 AM 2012
Quote from: Gizmotron on Feb 13, 05:37 PM 2012

There is no mathimatical way to beat Roulette. You must beat the randomness. If that way gets out then that would wreck everything.

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Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: vile on Feb 14, 05:01 PM 2012
Yes beating randomness is the only way to beat roulette.
I DO IT EVERY AND EACH SESSION.....not actually me but
the wheel does it for me....you reckon am joking?????
Care to put some money on it......will take anybody here
with 30 wiesbaden sessions,of your choice,that will win
each session.
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: iggiv on Feb 14, 05:16 PM 2012
that would be fun. let's get a few people together and set up a meeting in some chat or skype.

what would be your bankroll and win goal?
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: vile on Feb 14, 05:38 PM 2012
Quote from: iggiv on Feb 14, 05:16 PM 2012
that would be fun. let's get a few people together and set up a meeting in some chat or Skype.

what would be your bankroll and win goal?

no win goal...just win....BR as many spins in any session.
But there wouldn't be any takers am afraid.
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: iggiv on Feb 14, 06:24 PM 2012
what do u mean any takers?

we gather a few people in some chat or skype or whatever, one brings spins from some german casino for example,  gives u spin by spin, u give your bets, we calculate. we will do it a few times.

but nobody will pay you for your demonstrations

Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: Sakura616 on Feb 14, 08:13 PM 2012
I have skype and I'm interested in a session or some more.

Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 17, 09:27 AM 2012
"How long will you be able to use this system? I mean, if it comes public, it might be banned or the game of roulette will be changed right? what's your take on this?"--GoranNF

To the contrary, I think the Grail would be quite easy to use and very hard to duplicate, you could share it with friends without worry-(based on the premise randomess will always give different results)  The Grail wouldn't be banned because for every big winner, you will have 150-200 losers, so the casino is "safe."

And how much does a casino allow you to win constantly? Say you want to earn 1000 dollar a day, will the online casino ban you?

At brick and mortar, $500/day is a safe amount in my opinion.  Online casinos, $50/day.  The online casinos will ban you at $100/day.
(I was banned at a place last year for having a big slots win.)
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: ADulay on Feb 17, 09:49 AM 2012
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 17, 09:27 AM 2012
The online casinos will ban you at $100/day.
Uh, you've really got to come up with some valid data for that one.

$100 a day was not a problem when I was playing 7 days a week and I never heard a thing about it.

Perhaps it's the game being played?  (Baccarat vs Roulette)

AD
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: GARNabby on Feb 17, 11:22 AM 2012
Quote from: ADulay on Feb 17, 09:49 AM 2012
$100 a day was not a problem when I was playing 7 days a week.
"Uh, you've really got to come up with some valid data for that one."
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: iggiv on Feb 17, 12:03 PM 2012
there are no holy grails, but there are some smart players, and Adulay is one of them. I know he is not  a B/S
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 17, 07:14 PM 2012
"Uh, you've really got to come up with some valid data for that one.

$100 a day was not a problem when I was playing 7 days a week and I never heard a thing about it.

Perhaps it's the game being played?  (Baccarat vs Roulette)"--ADulay

Let me clarify, not all online casinos are the same.  Casinos like Dublinbet, Bodog/Bovada, BetPhoenix perhaps have a higher threshold for consistent winners. 
I was speaking from an experience with a casino named Pamper in which I had a streak of good luck for several sessions (roughly $100 per day winning slots) and was banned--the last time, my winnings were removed and the deposit returned to my credit card.
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: GoranNF on Feb 18, 08:13 AM 2012
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 17, 09:27 AM 2012
"How long will you be able to use this system? I mean, if it comes public, it might be banned or the game of roulette will be changed right? what's your take on this?"--GoranNF

To the contrary, I think the Grail would be quite easy to use and very hard to duplicate, you could share it with friends without worry-(based on the premise randomess will always give different results)  The Grail wouldn't be banned because for every big winner, you will have 150-200 losers, so the casino is "safe."

And how much does a casino allow you to win constantly? Say you want to earn 1000 dollar a day, will the online casino ban you?

At brick and mortar, $500/day is a safe amount in my opinion.  Online casinos, $50/day.  The online casinos will ban you at $100/day.
(I was banned at a place last year for having a big slots win.)






What do you mean with hard to duplicate?


thanks for the input guys.
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: zero double zero on Mar 03, 06:11 AM 2012
Quote from: Gizmotron on Feb 13, 05:37 PM 2012
If there is a grail it would kill Blackjack, Baccarat, Roulette, and Craps all in one blow.

There is no mathimatical way to beat Roulette. You must beat the randomness. If that way gets out then that would wreck everything.


It's  not the mathemathics will beat roulette.
Randomness is wonderful
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: zero double zero on Mar 03, 06:58 AM 2012
Quote from: GoranNF on Feb 13, 05:09 PM 2012
Hi all,


Imagine this situation. Say you have a holy grail and you have shared it with respectable persons who you got to know over the internet. You have a good bond. What happens if some of them shares the Holy Grail?


How long will you be able to use this system? I mean, if it comes public, it might be banned or the game of roulette will be changed right? what's your take on this?


And how much does a casino allow you to win constantly? Say you want to earn 1000 dollar a day, will the online casino ban you?


looking forward to some opinions.


Exactly, you have answer the questions. A person with a holy grail plays in low profile. He does n't want to be ban, he doesn't want casino to change roulette game/rule (RNG or Live)  that might affect his system. He will never share his system. Is he going to sell the system?? $10,000? $50,000? or a million? I don't think so.... because he can make millions.

Randomness is beautiful. American Roulette is great. Keep on searching.. the holy grail or perfect system is just right clearly infront of everyone.

Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: downthehatch on Mar 04, 08:41 AM 2012
wouldn't it be very easy for the online casinos or wherever simply to limit the max bet differently,
particularly on outside bets, which would i presume prove a big obstacle to  EC, dozens, columns systems using progressions?
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: zero double zero on Mar 04, 09:48 AM 2012
Quote from: downthehatch on Mar 04, 08:41 AM 2012
wouldn't it be very easy for the online casinos or wherever simply to limit the max bet differently,
particularly on outside bets, which would i presume prove a big obstacle to  EC, dozens, columns systems using progressions?

Online casino trying to avoid bet progressions. They did their assignments. Why not taking advantage of betting inside? (collums or dozens + outside bets)
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: iggiv on Mar 04, 11:16 AM 2012
they have limits they consider optimal for them. They know it's not good to make strict limits cause
in that case they will lose progression players which give them lots of $
Title: Re: If you have a holy grail
Post by: MauiSunset on Mar 06, 12:46 PM 2012
I have a REAL Holy Grail -  Roulette Truth - #5 Roulette Holy Grail (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=ACeN5EFQdxc#ws)


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