The simple idea for Dummies is this:
"If a number has hit, it is a candidate to repeat"
I had an idea to bet on unique numbers in the first X hits.
The "millions in may" approach or "2good2be true" off VLS can soon get massive if you unfortunatly picked the rare occurance that the first 16 or 17 are unique.
I then realised that I could modify Ball24 system to do just this. This usually tracks repeats but i modified it to track single hits.
After a long mess about with the modified file for 2 weeks, I found tracking the last 12 numbers set to rolling (not static) best, so its like I am allways betting on the first 12 of a continuously new 37.
so if the first 12 are 22,33,34,5,1,28,13,22,7,36,0,11, then I would be betting on 10 numbers (22 is repeated)
This is changing every spin as one adds, and another drops off or repeats.
So, I am betting on unique numbers in the last 12.
I've had excellent test results using casino spins and excellent results live on William hill live casino.
I have attached the modified RX file
Its worth a look i think!
Hi Turnerfeck
I would be interested to run the RX file but the link is to a rar file not a rx file or is it me lol ?
D1.
Hi D1,
Download the rar. file,extract it and within is the dgt file. :)
Cheers Blood Angel
Quote from: turnerfeck on Apr 18, 06:27 PM 2012
The simple idea for Dummies is this:
"If a number has hit, it is a candidate to repeat"
I had an idea to bet on unique numbers in the first X hits.
The "millions in may" approach or "2good2be true" off VLS can soon get massive if you unfortunatly picked the rare occurance that the first 16 or 17 are unique.
I then realised that I could modify Ball24 system to do just this. This usually tracks repeats but i modified it to track single hits.
After a long mess about with the modified file for 2 weeks, I found tracking the last 12 numbers set to rolling (not static) best, so its like I am allways betting on the first 12 of a continuously new 37.
so if the first 12 are 22,33,34,5,1,28,13,22,7,36,0,11, then I would be betting on 10 numbers (22 is repeated)
This is changing every spin as one adds, and another drops off or repeats.
So, I am betting on unique numbers in the last 12.
I've had excellent test results using casino spins and excellent results live on William hill live casino.
I have attached the modified RX file
Its worth a look i think!
Sound risky ...
Quote from: turnerfeck on Apr 18, 06:27 PM 2012
The simple idea for Dummies is this:
"If a number has hit, it is a candidate to repeat"
I had an idea to bet on unique numbers in the first X hits.
The "millions in may" approach or "2good2be true" off VLS can soon get massive if you unfortunatly picked the rare occurance that the first 16 or 17 are unique.
I then realised that I could modify Ball24 system to do just this. This usually tracks repeats but i modified it to track single hits.
After a long mess about with the modified file for 2 weeks, I found tracking the last 12 numbers set to rolling (not static) best, so its like I am allways betting on the first 12 of a continuously new 37.
so if the first 12 are 22,33,34,5,1,28,13,22,7,36,0,11, then I would be betting on 10 numbers (22 is repeated)
This is changing every spin as one adds, and another drops off or repeats.
So, I am betting on unique numbers in the last 12.
I've had excellent test results using casino spins and excellent results live on William hill live casino.
I have attached the modified RX file
Its worth a look i think!
You have 80% chance of hitting repeat within 12 spins. You can go hitless for more than 20. Its not possible to win this way. Its too much to handle for your BR.
Regards
QuoteYou have 80% chance of hitting repeat within 12 spins. You can go hitless for more than 20. Its not possible to win this way. Its too much to handle for your BR.
Agreed, you should eventually see over 24/26 uniques in a row, the most I have seen on an rng is 29 in a row, I heard somewhere else somone saw 24 or 26 on a live wheel.
Thanks Robin, It wasnt a Eurika moment, I do know that its risky
Every system has a trapdoor. All systems do ok for a while then the Black Dog takes over from the Dealer.
I just appreciate the comments from here. It works better than 2good2betrue, which is similar.
I like the idea that its a fresh 12 everytime or am I delusioned?
Turner
Quote from: turnerfeck on Apr 19, 04:56 AM 2012
Thanks Robin, It wasn't a Eurika moment, I do know that its risky
Every system has a trapdoor. All systems do ok for a while then the Black Dog takes over from the Dealer.
I just appreciate the comments from here. It works better than 2good2betrue, which is similar.
I like the idea that its a fresh 12 everytime or am I delusioned?
Turner
Hello Turner
There is not much you can do here. Putting stop - loss here won't work due to strike rate. You can get sometimes 20 times in the row a hit within 12 spins but a progression would be too heavy so 1 loss would wipe you out.
Regards
Superman,
The system is one thing, I guess, and self control another. So I dont mind a risky idea.
I like this Maxim from"taking chances" by John Hague
"in unfavourable games, bold play is best, timid play is worse"
These type of flat betting systems are like looking for meteors on a famous meteor shower evening. You WILL see Meteors, but if you dont, or its cloudy, dont stand there all night freezing your nads off. Give up quick when its obviously not going to happen. Try again next time.
Quote from: turnerfeck on Apr 19, 05:35 AM 2012
Superman,
The system is one thing, I guess, and self control another. So I don't mind a risky idea.
I like this Maxim from"taking chances" by John Hague
"in unfavourable games, bold play is best, timid play is worse"
These type of flat betting systems are like looking for meteors on a famous meteor shower evening. You WILL see Meteors, but if you don't, or its cloudy, don't stand there all night freezing your nads off. Give up quick when its obviously not going to happen. Try again next time.
Hello Turner
I like your approach. i will give you an idea....Track 50k spins. Its really fast. Get all numbers that hit at least 2 times n last 36 spins. Usually between 7 and 12. Just find out the strike ratio if you bet on all repeaters but you have to add all the qualifiers as they appear. I guarantee you that if you bet on at least 9 numbers that going over 10 spins will be very rare before you get a hit. There is something that you could explore here like waiting few virtual loses and adjusting your prog and stop loss. I had nothing but success but playing this way but dont want to push my results.
But its the best if you will find it by yourself.
Hint: wait 5 spins and go 5 spins for a win and 4 more spins to max stop loss of 200u.
Your strike ratio should make you profit in a long run
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Apr 19, 08:03 AM 2012
...i will give you an idea....Get all numbers that hit at least 2 times n last 36 spins. Usually between 7 and 12. I guarantee you that if you bet on at least 9 numbers that going over 10 spins will be very rare before you get a hit. There is something that you could explore here like waiting few virtual loses and adjusting your prog and stop-loss. I had nothing but success but playing this way but don't want to push my results.
But its the best if you will find it by yourself.
Hint: wait 5 spins and go 5 spins for a win and 4 more spins to max stop-loss of 200u.
Your strike ratio should make you profit in a long run
Hi Robeenhuut,
Just to clarify, you suggest:
(1) identify all numbers that hit at least 2 times in last 36 outcomes
(2) select 9 of these numbers identified in (1)
(3) wait for 5 virtual losses
(4) Play numbers chosen in (2) for 9 spins
(5) set maximum stop-loss at 200 units
Can you confirm above and also what profit target you recommend?
Regards
B27
Quote from: Bettor 27 on Apr 22, 03:24 AM 2012
Hi Robeenhuut,
Just to clarify, you suggest:
(1) identify all numbers that hit at least 2 times in last 36 outcomes
(2) select 9 of these numbers identified in (1)
(3) wait for 5 virtual losses
(4) Play numbers chosen in (2) for 9 spins
(5) set maximum stop-loss at 200 units
Can you confirm above and also what profit target you recommend?
Regards
B27
Hello B27
Yeah its what i meant. I have never seen no repeats in 400 games going more 13 spins if you have at least 9 in last 36 spins. Anyway if you track 36 spins average result is at least 1 number that hit at least 3 times and that you get at least 70% of 9 or more repeats. Do some testing on RX and live spins and you will find out. I have never seen no 3peats in 48 spins in like 15k spins now. This tells you something. Profit target is up to you. Stop loss 100 u or 5 spins after 5 virtual losses.
Regards
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Apr 22, 06:42 AM 2012
...I have never seen no repeats in 400 games going more 13 spins if you have at least 9 in last 36 spins. Anyway if you track 36 spins average result is at least 1 number that hit at least 3 times and that you get at least 70% of 9 or more repeats. Do some testing on RX and live spins and you will find out. I have never seen no 3peats in 48 spins in like 15k spins now. This tells you something. Profit target is up to you. stop-loss 100 u or 5 spins after 5 virtual losses.
Thanks Robeenhuut,
What would you do in the scenario where you are waiting for 5 virtual misses and a repeater hits?
For example, here is a sample 36 numbers:
15
13
21
29
31
21
36
30
09
14
09
0
17
35
14
26
24
28
21
12
23
28
23
16
24
32
01
18
04
28
04
12
12
09
16
20
At this point we identify the 9 repeaters, which are
(01) 04 repeated 2 times
(02) 09 repeated 3 times
(03) 12 repeated 3 times
(04) 14 repeated 2 times
(05) 16 repeated 2 times
(06) 21 repeated 3 times
(07) 23 repeated 2 times
(08) 24 repeated 2 times
(09) 28 repeated 3 times
Now we continue recording the outcomes waiting for 5 virtual misses (losses)
33 <-- Virtual outcome 1
01 <-- Virtual outcome 2
11 <-- Virtual ourcome 3
33 <-- Virtual outcome 4
14 <-- Virtual outcome 5 which is a HIT!!
09
21
15
08
27
30
23
34
13
13
28
22
35
15
07
Also what progression do you use for the 9 repeaters?
Regards
B27
Quote from: Bettor 27 on Apr 22, 12:36 PM 2012
Thanks Robeenhuut,
What would you do in the scenario where you are waiting for 5 virtual misses and a repeater hits?
For example, here is a sample 36 numbers:
15
13
21
29
31
21
36
30
09
14
09
0
17
35
14
26
24
28
21
12
23
28
23
16
24
32
01
18
04
28
04
12
12
09
16
20
At this point we identify the 9 repeaters, which are
(01) 04 repeated 2 times
(02) 09 repeated 3 times
(03) 12 repeated 3 times
(04) 14 repeated 2 times
(05) 16 repeated 2 times
(06) 21 repeated 3 times
(07) 23 repeated 2 times
(08) 24 repeated 2 times
(09) 28 repeated 3 times
Now we continue recording the outcomes waiting for 5 virtual misses (losses)
33 <-- Virtual outcome 1
01 <-- Virtual outcome 2
11 <-- Virtual ourcome 3
33 <-- Virtual outcome 4
14 <-- Virtual outcome 5 which is a HIT!!
09
21
15
08
27
30
23
34
13
13
28
22
35
15
07
Also what progression do you use for the 9 repeaters?
Regards
B27
You start again with 5 virtual loses and prog to stay in profit after next potential hit.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Apr 27, 09:26 AM 2012
You start again with 5 virtual loses and prog to stay in profit after next potential hit.
By "start again" you mean a new set of 36 numbers or can the last 36 numbers be used (meaning add most recent 5 losses to previous 31 numbers)?
Quote from: Bettor 27 on Apr 28, 10:52 AM 2012
By "start again" you mean a new set of 36 numbers or can the last 36 numbers be used (meaning add most recent 5 losses to previous 31 numbers)?
You restart again especially after an early hit. For repeats i only play for a first hit. You can play for extra hits but its up 2 you. You always start with last 36 spins.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Apr 28, 11:29 AM 2012
You restart again especially after an early hit. For repeats i only play for a first hit. You can play for extra hits but its up 2 you. You always start with last 36 spins.
Hi Robeenhuut
Understood that its safer to go for only the first repeater, but can you clarify how you would play in the following situation where a bet was
NOT placed, namely:
(1) Collected 36 outcomes
(2) identified repeaters
(3) Waited for 5 virtual losses (so now have 41 outcomes recorded)
(4) the 5th virtual loss is a hit on a repeat number identified in (2)
Do you:
(a) Discard the 41 outcomes already collected and collect new 36 outcomes? OR
(b) From the 41 outcomes collected, use the last 36 and repeat step 2 & 3 above?
Regards
B27
I would wait number of spins to get a new set of numbers to bet on. You just recorded a hit and its better to wait than immediately start betting. You dont have to track next 36 spins. Just keep tracking and if you see long period without a hit you can start betting. If i have 10 qualifiers and no hit in last 8 spins i would start betting immediately for 5 steps and so on. If you observe a board you will see some patterns. Its extremely rare that you dont get hit in 12 spins if you have at least 9 qualifiers but it can happen of course. For example in my sample of 50k spins the longest period without any number hit 3 times was 48. Its already very rare for it not to happen in 36 spins. We have to exploit these patterns somehow. But it requires patience.
Regards