Blimey it's been a while and I'm stunned by so many haters here all of sudden so a message to all you negative posters who are so vocal:
No1. What is this?
You may have noticed that this is primarily a system based forum. Most posts are system related. Sure there are VB sections etc and other forums out there for this but this is primarily a system based forum. If you're not interested in systems then go else where and stop hating. I like reading about systems. Just because 'all systems fail in the end' doesn't diminish my enjoyment of reading about them and how people apply them. This also does not make me unintelligent or into 'voodoo'. Jeez. who came up with this? Lol.
No2. Maths.
Shut up about the f@&king Maths!!!
You're not unintelligent either!!! If you've got this far to get to this forum then you already know tha the Maths is blatantly against you to start with. Roulette is a negative expectation game. To start quoting Maths as a reason why a system doesn't work means you didn't read the massive sign on the door on the way in. Count the numbers. Now count the amount you win when the little ball lands on one of those numbers. Errr you reckon the Maths is looking good? No you don't do you. So do us all a favour and write a stiff letter of complaint to each and every casino in the land. don't post here. Why? Well we already know the Maths thanks, we just enjoy reading other people's systems. By the way this doesn't make us unintelligent etc etc.
No3. There is a founding statement regarding this forum that placed an emphasis on open-mindedness and respect in relation to how we deal with each other. Probability is a two sided coin with each side willing to fight against the other. This won't change. Whatever your view point on chance there are other people here who believe the opposite. Get over it. If you wanna row with someone then start a new post, don't trash someone else's. By the way there is always no winners so maybe don't waste your time anyhow.
No4. If you don't like it - ignore it.
If someone post a method you think is wrong or doesn't work, then let them work it out. If you can help them gently with constructive critique then great but if you just wanna shout ' what a load of BS' then don't bother it's tiresome. Some of us just enjoy reading other people's methods. This doesnt make us unintelligent etc etc etc etc zzzz. Or in the words of st least two great members, one from the USA and one from eastern Europe who both played b&m most days, who have both left this forum due to the monotonous drone of only a handful of other members:
If you don't agree read something else and don't comment. Sure you've got a right but the tune is so so so tired. And the reason for why you should do this? You see we're not unintelligent, It's just we enjoy reading about other peoples systems etc etc etc etc etc ad infinitum.
Thanks
Woods
"'voodoo'. Jeez. who came up with this? LoL."
I did!
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 08, 09:15 PM 2012
"'voodoo'. Jeez. who came up with this? LoL."
I did!
Sam
Hola
Apparently all haters will be here because Code 20 thread was locked and you can not comment on it... ;D And JL just proved that all haters r fools by posting his fake Code 20 n letting them comment on it. I guess now that he will just pm his original Code 20 2 people worthy of it.
2 all interested anyway - just play it in opposite way 2 rules posted with as many triggers as possible ;D
I think 5 triggers (non matches) will make it sure winner.
Regards
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 09, 01:47 AM 2012
Hola
Apparently all haters will be here because Code 20 thread was locked and you can not comment on it... ;D And JL just proved that all haters r fools by posting his fake Code 20 n letting them comment on it. I guess now that he will just pm his original Code 20 2 people worthy of it.
2 all interested anyway - just play it in opposite way 2 rules posted with as many triggers as possible ;D
I think 5 triggers (non matches) will make it sure winner.
Regards
Very good Robeenhuut, VERY GOOD...The thing is this. I could profit from CODE 20 EITHER WAY for the rest of my days. And it never ceases to amaze me that others don't see the things I do. I've played/tested CODE 20 for over 300 games now. I've never seen a worst split than 10/10 Cofi reported a few 8/12s but so what. Random is telling us something. But we aren't listening.
FRAME BETTING. what's it WORTH? ??? Its priceless I will tell you now. It allows you to scrutinize random frame after frame until you OUGHT to see something that can be exploited. Now I pushed CODE 20 as a level bets method. So everyone thinks level bets. But I don't really care about level bets. I care about WINNING. Random has clearly shown me its virtual limit.
VIRTUAL SATURATION POINT. For losing. I now know I could profit by simply raising stakes inside that frame.
This is why I have no time or respect for maths based thinkers. They fail to realize even a game of negative expectancy can be conquered. You simply approach it from a different angle. When we are all supposed to bow I stand up and say they didn't cover all the bases. All the possibilities with this game. FRAME BETTING is one of them.
Hi John,
I also noticed you locked the CODE20 thread. Does this mean you will be posting a new one with the genuine rules?
Thanks, A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 09, 03:38 AM 2012
Hi John,
I also noticed you locked the CODE20 thread. Does this mean you will be posting a new one with the genuine rules?
Thanks, A.
Soon my friend although Robeenhuut seems to have a pretty good idea of how it will be.
Hi John,
Good - and I agree it seems to be the way to go :)
A.
Quote from: woods101 on Jun 08, 08:59 PM 2012
Blimey it's been a while and I'm stunned by so many haters here all of sudden so a message to all you negative posters who are so vocal:
No1. What is this?
You may have noticed that this is primarily a system based forum. Most posts are system related. Sure there are VB sections etc and other forums out there for this but this is primarily a system based forum. If you're not interested in systems then go else where and stop hating. I like reading about systems. Just because 'all systems fail in the end' doesn't diminish my enjoyment of reading about them and how people apply them. This also does not make me unintelligent or into 'voodoo'. Jeez. who came up with this? LoL.
No2. Maths.
Shut up about the f@&king Maths!!!
You're not unintelligent either!!! If you've got this far to get to this forum then you already know tha the Maths is blatantly against you to start with. Roulette is a negative expectation game. To start quoting Maths as a reason why a system doesn't work means you didn't read the massive sign on the door on the way in. Count the numbers. Now count the amount you win when the little ball lands on one of those numbers. Errr you reckon the Maths is looking good? No you don't do you. So do us all a favour and write a stiff letter of complaint to each and every casino in the land. don't post here. Why? Well we already know the Maths thanks, we just enjoy reading other people's systems. By the way this doesn't make us unintelligent etc etc.
No3. There is a founding statement regarding this forum that placed an emphasis on open-mindedness and respect in relation to how we deal with each other. Probability is a two sided coin with each side willing to fight against the other. This won't change. Whatever your view point on chance there are other people here who believe the opposite. Get over it. If you wanna row with someone then start a new post, don't trash someone else's. By the way there is always no winners so maybe don't waste your time anyhow.
No4. If you don't like it - ignore it.
If someone post a method you think is wrong or doesn't work, then let them work it out. If you can help them gently with constructive critique then great but if you just wanna shout ' what a load of BS' then don't bother it's tiresome. Some of us just enjoy reading other people's methods. This doesn't make us unintelligent etc etc etc etc zzzz. Or in the words of st least two great members, one from the USA and one from eastern Europe who both played b&m most days, who have both left this forum due to the monotonous drone of only a handful of other members:
If you don't agree read something else and don't comment. Sure you've got a right but the tune is so so so tired. And the reason for why you should do this? You see we're not unintelligent, It's just we enjoy reading about other peoples systems etc etc etc etc etc ad infinitum.
Thanks
Woods
Yes Woods this forum is starting to look like one of those awful pointless forums like VLS or even worse Punters Lounge. Where losers congragate, waiting for anyone who doesnt agree with their pessimistic outlook on roulette. Then they gang up on them to see them off. So they can carry on promoting. worthless theory. Endless debating. But no actual progress.
But we have a few open minds here. And thats the reason I continue to try. Otherwise id be long gone.
Lol....woods takes, what appears to be, a lot of his time and effort trying to get the forum back in line with its real agender and the following posts are the same people arguing. Reminds me of when my kids were 9 & 5. Having said that woods, go look up one of my first posts in here called forums are forums are forums.
Quote from: turnerfeck on Jun 09, 05:37 AM 2012
LoL....woods takes, what appears to be, a lot of his time and effort trying to get the forum back in line with its real agender and the following posts are the same people arguing. Reminds me of when my kids were 9 & 5. Having said that woods, go look up one of my first posts in here called forums are forums are forums.
Arguing is not the point. The pessimists will always be. Those who can't make a decision unless the maths book says its okay. Essentially a loser. And those who enter the frame with a fresh perception. Willing to try something different. And see for themselves. That math based thinking doesn't own your potential success with this game. The tiny minority my kind of thinking will always be. But that's fine with me. We need the other 99.9 to prospur.
Johnlegend
I like reading your posts. I find them too complecated for me. Maybe I'm lazy and cant be bothered to put in the effort: looking for a quick fix.
I am sure you are familiar with the word dualism. If you call you a fat lazy so and so and I come back with a retort, some observers baying for a fight will say....good on you Turner...give it him back. Actually, I am creating the same bad karma as the original insult. There is no difference.
Silence is golden. If you dont like the criticism...ignore it. Treat it as background noise. Dont delete them, let them stand. Just reply to the posts that interest you, like an idea to improve your progression or something.
Alternativly, you can completly ignore what I just said if you wish :thumbsup:
Turner
Hello JL,
I have some new testing figures to present (regarding splits) but since the original thread is locked I don't know if is it ok to post them here?
Quote from: turnerfeck on Jun 09, 06:15 AM 2012
Johnlegend
I like reading your posts. I find them too complecated for me. Maybe I'm lazy and can't be bothered to put in the effort: looking for a quick fix.
I am sure you are familiar with the word dualism. If you call you a fat lazy so and so and I come back with a retort, some observers baying for a fight will say....good on you Turner...give it him back. Actually, I am creating the same bad karma as the original insult. There is no difference.
Silence is golden. If you don't like the criticism...ignore it. Treat it as background noise. don't delete them, let them stand. Just reply to the posts that interest you, like an idea to improve your progression or something.
Alternativly, you can completly ignore what I just said if you wish :thumbsup:
Turner
Turner what will be will be. I cant change you. I can show you a way. Only you can decide whether you want to succeed. That said no lazy indifferent person will ever get anywhere with this game.
Quote from: cofi on Jun 09, 06:24 AM 2012
Hello JL,
I have some new testing figures to present (regarding splits) but since the original thread is locked I don't know if is it ok to post them here?
Hi cofi,
I am interested in the split figures - you can Pm if u like.
Hope JL starts another code20 thread soon :)
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 09, 06:27 AM 2012
Hi cofi,
I am interested in the split figures - you can Pm if u like.
Hope JL starts another code20 thread soon :)
A.
Lol I get the hint Atlantis. It will be on today promise. Im in philosophical mood as you may have noticed. Not really even playing today. Im having a day off. And revisiting my last 18 months on this forum. From the time you Twister and me forged MATRIX VERTICAL 5. Remember that? What became of Twister? I hope he is okay
FRAME BETTING:Johnlegend stressed this point.
He is perfectly right.
Frame Betting is one of the basic rule for fighting against roulette.
The other ones IMHO:
-play only a few spins per session(less than 40)
-an unit must not be lower than 1/20 of session BKR
-In Europe, play only even chances(it's safer to play against 1,35% VIG , than against 2,70% or more)
-NO negative progressions(better positive progressions or flat bet)
-Bet selection(I'm neutral!) does it exist)Not sure
Hi Atlantis and JL,
I'd prefer to post them here, if some1 else might be interested. :)
Quick test, 28 sets of 20 spins (total 560 spins), results are as follows:
18/2: 1
17/3: /
16/4: 9
15/5: 6
14/6: 5
13/7: 5
12/8: 1
11/9: /
10/10 /
9/11: 1
Quote from: cofi on Jun 09, 06:24 AM 2012
Hello JL,
I have some new testing figures to present (regarding splits) but since the original thread is locked I don't know if is it ok to post them here?
I would appreciate you PMing them to me Atlantis or anyone else interested. And dropping them here to if Woods101 doesnt mind. Well done...
JL,
already done the post before. :D
Quote from: cofi on Jun 09, 06:44 AM 2012
Hi Atlantis,
I'd prefer to post them here, if some1 else might be interested. :)
Quick test, 28 sets of 20 spins (total 560 spins), results are as follows:
18/2: 1
17/3: /
16/4: 9
15/5: 6
14/6: 5
13/7: 5
12/8: 1
11/9: /
10/10 /
9/11: 1
Yup those are similar breakdowns to what I've found in testing. What does it say to you Cofi ? Its says to me that the middle ground 13/7---14/6 is both potentially profittable for either direction of play. For or against the match. A chain of thought that has NEVER left me since our friend Atlantis first coined the term some 18 months ago during testing for MATRIX VERTICAL 5. Is AC/DC PLAY. I believe CODE 20 offers the ultimate oppurtunity to put this into practice. Remember I started testing this as CODE 4O.
I spilt it in half. But what often happens during those 40 spins is the first 20 favour FOR THE MATCH. And the second 20 AGAINST THE MATCH. Or vice versa. Again Mr percentage is doing his best to haul Random in for questioning. Now I am thinking its time to respond to this.
JL,
this tells me that we can play either way. :D
Or, first 4 spins can be virtual, and depenting on them we decide to play remaining 16 for a mach, or for a non-mach.
Or, wait for 3 or 4 non-maches, then play the rest of session for a mach until have +3 or have 4 hits.
Or wait for Your idea of CODE 20 Reverse Attack. :D
Some suggests, JL?
It looks to me that this is long-time winner. 8)
Quote from: cofi on Jun 09, 07:02 AM 2012
JL,
this tells me that we can play either way. :D
Or, first 4 spins can be virtual, and depenting on them we decide to play remaining 16 for a mach, or for a non-mach.
Or, wait for 3 or 4 non-maches, then play the rest of session for a mach until have +3 or have 4 hits.
Or wait for Your idea of CODE 20 Reverse Attack. :D
Some suggests, JL?
It looks to me that this is long-time winner. 8)
I like what you are saying very much. And its been in my mind for the last 24 hours. Thats why I have hesitated to drop CODE 20 the new one. Because what this is all saying to me. Is AC/DC Play is the ultimate way to go. I like the TRIGGER IDEA to suggest which way we go Cofi. Personally though I was thinking of 5 for a non match. And the regular 2 for a match. he reason being. The longest matching streak ive ever recorded is 6 in a row. The longest non matching streak 15. Although I know it could go beyond either once in a while. I think those are good average trigger points.
Hi John,
I am only interested in playing CODE20 for MATCH. Flatbetting after 4 or 5 non-match triggers. A one dozen bet. We know original code20 doesn't work. (the fake one) Suppose you get a couple or three zeroes showing up in a frame when you're double dozen betting - can be costly. I'm happy to just collect on the matches and stop at the LOCK and aim for 3 point game wins. If this works we won't need to change anything or switch to 2 dozen betting... If you want to expand on that to get more bets then I suggest recording 2 grids:
doz col doz col --- col doz col doz
and just play for match after the triggers occur (with separate banks?)
A.
I would like to congratulate woods101 for this topic and his post.
Indeed this is a roulette forum and there is no needs for haters to be here.
Most of us know the negative expectation of this game but we still try ... say its a hobby or a dream or call it whatever you like.
So all the haters can join an other forum or something...but no they are still here. This proves that they also have the same hobby-dream.
So let us do our thing without any distractions
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jun 09, 08:35 AM 2012
I would like to congratulate woods101 for this topic and his post.
Indeed this is a roulette forum and there is no needs for haters to be here.
Most of us know the negative expectation of this game but we still try ... say its a hobby or a dream or call it whatever you like.
So all the haters can join an other forum or something...but no they are still here. This proves that they also have the same hobby-dream.
So let us do our thing without any distractions
Yeah
Lets just congratulate each other on posting anything and dont criticize. Then everybody will be happy. Lets make it kiss everybody a.s.s forum. Very user friendly. :D Hope that your pockets r very deep ;D
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 09, 08:56 AM 2012
Yeah
Lets just congratulate each other on posting anything and don't criticize. Then everybody will be happy. Lets make it kiss everybody a.s.s forum. Very user friendly. :D Hope that your pockets r very deep ;D
we just posted same idea at the same time! I hope they would understand and leave their emotions far from this.
Just like to say you need a match for code 20 before going for another match.... I have gone over 20 spins without a match yesterday...hybrid dc4 lost for the first time for me ... Not 2 matching lines but 3....am i going to give up nope...
Hi 6th-sense,
Are you saying you had something like this:
3a1a - lead off line
2b3c
1a1b
3c2a
1b1c
2a3a
No vertical matches in 20 consecutive spins.
A.
Quote from: justanothergambler on Jun 09, 08:59 AM 2012
we just posted same idea at the same time! I hope they would understand and leave their emotions far from this.
They wont JNG
What keeps them in d game? Emotions... When asked about real numbers there is a silence.
We get some numbers occasionally that dont tell u anything. Like i won 10 games last nite in fun mode... Sorry guys but unless u produce some real testing from larger sample of spins u wont make us believers. Especially when these systems like JL repeatedly stated r supposed 2 work in spite of contradicting basic mathematical/statistical rules applied 2 any games including roulette.
Haters ???????
You must be kidding or either you haven't clue
what's going on in here.
The man,self called JOHNLEGEND/
aka Charles Scammer Hampshire, scammer/after scamming hundreds
of people.on these forums/arrived again,and you people.
can't see further of you nose.He is teasing with
you for about a year now with these useless matrix
things,which every one proved negative,always promesing
a new woodoo happening that will conquer world-
Keeping you guys always in expectation,he is only throwing
you new baits,before he strikes again with his devil plot.
And you call me and few other guys haters couse we warn you
what's going to happen.Well if you are so naive and system hungry
let it be so.Just a friendly warning,that's all.
"""""""""Lets just congratulate each other on posting anything and don't criticize. Then everybody will be happy. Lets make it kiss everybody a.s.s forum. Very user friendly. :D Hope that your pockets r very deep ;D""""""""""
No one said not to criticize. But in a negative expectation game the only criticism willl be negative...So what do you want? to have a forum full of negativity? Well there you go...you have it ! Are you happy with this?
And my pockets don't need to be deep because playing roulette and exploring it are 2 completely different things.
And yes JL reminds me a lot of charles
Yes atlantis 23 misses to be excact...that was without a double match 1st...which is funny becouse it always gets a repeat somewhere along the line after a match....and huut i played with real money and lost quite a lot becouse both systems lost virtually within the hour of each other..this and hybrid dc4...lucky it was money i won so back at starting bankroll really...frustrated yep..a sheep following Blindly nope....lesson learnt yep... Answer yep..method for dc4 needs a certain mm tweak.. That is all,system is great even with the loss..code 20 is stick to the double match rules..plus maybe keep a unit on the double streets that have appeared in the last 2 dozens on a rolling basis with mm management to suit..
Quote from: vile on Jun 09, 09:45 AM 2012
Haters ??? ??? ?
You must be kidding or either you haven't clue
what's going on in here.
The man,self called JOHNLEGEND/
aka Charles scammer hampshire scammer, scammer/after scamming hundreds
of people.on these forums/arrived again,and you people.
can't see further of you nose.He is teasing with
you for about a year now with these useless matrix
things,which every one proved negative,always promesing
a new woodoo happening that will conquer world-
Keeping you guys always in expectation,he is only throwing
you new baits,before he strikes again with his devil plot.
And you call me and few other guys haters couse we warn you
what's going to happen.Well if you are so naive and system hungry
let it be so.Just a friendly warning,that's all.
Vile you are a very sad bitter individual. You have no idea what a scammer is. If you accuse me of being one.Am I selling anything on this forum? Have I asked anyone for money? No nice try but you are not getting rid of me with your desperate accusations. Spend as much time and effort playing the methods and you might get somewhere in life.
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jun 09, 10:44 AM 2012
"""""""""Lets just congratulate each other on posting anything and don't criticize. Then everybody will be happy. Lets make it kiss everybody a.s.s forum. Very user friendly. :D Hope that your pockets r very deep ;D """"""""""
No one said not to criticize. But in a negative expectation game the only criticism willl be negative...So what do you want? to have a forum full of negativity? Well there you go...you have it ! Are you happy with this?
And my pockets don't need to be deep because playing roulette and exploring it are 2 completely different things.
And yes JL reminds me a lot of Charles Scammer
Dont go overboard with this plz. I have no clue who Charles Scammer really is n i dont really care. Nobody tries 2 sell anything here n JL posts here 4 free. Its just that in my opinion he did not provide any evidence here that his systems work. I just think that he is not willing 4 some reason 2 engage in any constructive debate about his systems.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 09, 10:59 AM 2012
don't go overboard with this plz. I have no clue who Charles scammer really is n i don't really care. Nobody tries 2 sell anything here n JL posts here 4 free. Its just that in my opinion he did not provide any evidence here that his systems work. I just think that he is not willing 4 some reason 2 engage in any constructive debate about his systems.
Robeenhuut. that's is for you to test. Have I got to do everything for you? You come across as can't be bothered about anything. You are jaded already done with the game. Those who attack me are all the same. Done with the game. So all you have left is bitterness and negativity. Thats your problem I am not here for your kind.
Some more testing, 32 sets of 20 spins, total 640 spins.
19/1 -
18/2 1
17/3 3
16/4 4
15/5 7
14/6 4
13/7 6
12/8 4
11/9 2
10/10 1
9/11 -
OK, gentlemen..........
I'ts OK to use woodoo Just don't make fun of the word VOODOO.
That's my puppy and I might just copyright it!! I could sue, you know.
TwoCatSam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 09, 11:44 AM 2012
OK, gentlemen..........
I'ts OK to use woodoo Just don't make fun of the word VOODOO.
That's my puppy and I might just copyright it!! I could sue, you know.
TwoCatSam
U did not copy right it Sam. ;D yet.
I really should post a "Voodoo" system that really works, but it has no matrix and would get no interest.
TwoCatSam
(The Voodoo Man)
60 sets, 1200 spins
18/2 2
17/3 3
16/4 13
15/5 13
14/6 9
13/7 11
12/8 5
11/9 2
10/10 1
9/11 1
the longest non-mach number of spins: 17
mach 6
Quote from: cofi on Jun 09, 12:04 PM 2012
60 sets, 1200 spins
18/2 2
17/3 3
16/4 13
15/5 13
14/6 9
13/7 11
12/8 5
11/9 2
10/10 1
9/11 1
the longest non-mach number of spins: 17
mach 6
So how can we use these results? Any idea?
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 09, 03:29 AM 2012
The thing is this. I could profit from CODE 20 EITHER WAY for the rest of my days.
hahahahahaha good joke... :thumbsup:
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 09, 12:09 PM 2012
So how can we use these results? Any idea?
Robeen, just by playing flat we would be 160 units + after these 1200 spins, do we need more? :D
We can add a trigger if we aim for more: start of 20 spins cycle by waiting for 3 or 4 straight non-maches, then playing 17 or 16 times for a mach, to try to lower loses, or stop bet at +3 or +4 inside a cycle, or combine. But we will pass some winnigs here too, so I don't know if triggers are needed.
Test, test, and more test this, I will continue certainly!
Quote from: cofi on Jun 09, 12:59 PM 2012
Robeen, just by playing flat we would be 160 units + after these 1200 spins, do we need more? :D
We can add a trigger if we aim for more: start of 20 spins cycle by waiting for 3 or 4 straight non-maches, then playing 17 or 16 times for a mach, to try to lower loses, or stop bet at +3 or +4 inside a cycle, or combine. But we will pass some winnigs here too, so I don't know if triggers are needed.
Test, test, and more test this, I will continue certainly!
Triggers dont work in this type of betting in my opinion. You just play less games by waiting 4 trigger. Hope that u continue your hot streak but keep in mind that 1k spins r just early indicator how a system behaves. Lots of systems tank after 5k or more spins.
Regards
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 09, 01:07 PM 2012
Triggers don't work in this type of betting in my opinion. You just play less games by waiting 4 trigger. Hope that u continue your hot streak but keep in mind that 1k spins r just early indicator how a system behaves. Lots of systems tank after 5k or more spins.
Regards
Robeenhuut will never be impressed with anything. He isnt here to win. Just to attack and spread negative vibes. And defeatest attitudes. No system tanks if its any good. The matrix vertical concept played at a less aggressive staking plan. Will never tank. Amks alternating Dozens and Columns. Give it. Its best overall performance yet.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 09, 12:09 PM 2012
So how can we use these results? Any idea?
Cofi I want you to test something for me against those results. To see if they mirror mine. Can you PM me??
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 09, 01:07 PM 2012
Triggers don't work in this type of betting in my opinion. You just play less games by waiting 4 trigger. Hope that u continue your hot streak but keep in mind that 1k spins r just early indicator how a system behaves. Lots of systems tank after 5k or more spins.
Regards
If I play right now, I'd play without triggers, just bet flat. Just thinking, but at first I aim for 10k spins test.
We lose @ 20/0 (-20), 19/1 (-16), 18/2 (-12), 17/3 (-8), 16/4 (-4)
We brake even @ 15/5 (0)
We win @ 14/6 (+4), 13/7 (+8), 12/8 (+12), 11/9 (+16), 10/10 (+20), 9/11 (+24), 8/12 (+28)
Quote
We lose @ 20/0 (-20), 19/1 (-16), 18/2 (-12), 17/3 (-8), 16/4 (-4)
We brake even @ 15/5 (0)
We win @ 14/6 (+4), 13/7 (+8), 12/8 (+12), 11/9 (+16), 10/10 (+20), 9/11 (+24), 8/12 (+28)
Hi cofi,
Shouldn't that be:
We lose @ 20/0 (-20), 19/1 (-17), 18/2 (-14), 17/3 (-11), 16/4 (-8)
We brake even @ 15/5 (-5)
We win @ 14/6 (-2), 13/7 (+1), 12/8 (+4), 11/9 (+7), 10/10 (+10), 9/11 (+13), 8/12 (+16)
Just wondering??
A.
Hi A,
yes that's correct, my aim were splits, these calculations were made in the pause between 2 football games, in a rush, sorry. :)
I'll do that calculations tomorrow again, now I'm focused on the splits.
Quote from: woods101 on Jun 08, 08:59 PM 2012
You may have noticed that this is primarily a system based forum. Just because 'all systems fail in the end' doesn't diminish my enjoyment of reading about them and how people apply them.
I came on board at VLS shortly before it was sold to Steve. Soon after, Lanky, (and myself,) bailed out over some "hard feelings" with Victor (/Steve) about it. But just before that, Lanky and i came to the realization that the above sort of message ought to be in bold print in a sticky thread. Never happened.
It reflects badly on a board which condones, nay, encourages, posters who always do more than just proceed to post just a method. When Mr. J posts a method, that's what we get; but not with just about every one else.
A pit-boss once said, "It goes one way for a while, then the other." That's about the best starting-pt there is to casino-gambling. It's not quantum science, hardly so-tricky. One thing must get out of the way for another to move. A fact which is clearly demonstrated by card-counting. Does it matter that you (think that you) can't see the "deck" at the roulette-table? No, there's always a deck. If you want to go the system-route for real, then go find that "deck", or a way to improvise it. Plus whatever odds-and-ends you may find, here, or elsewhere. Try to climb ahead a few units each session, avoid the occasional few extreme ones which go nowhere but down. Work one extreme against the other, to all degrees, and types.
The pitfall with a systems-only board is no real casino-experience exposure. (Even those alone have to become extremely-boring at some point.)
Quote from: woods101 on Jun 08, 08:59 PM 2012... 'voodoo'. Jeez. who came up with this?
Sonny, over at blackjackinfo.com, has a Voodoo section, all you have to do is "look at him crossways". Even the Wiz is in it, didn't even try to defend himself.
Quote from: woods101 on Jun 08, 08:59 PM 2012Well we already know the Maths thanks, we just enjoy reading other people's systems. By the way this doesn't make us unintelligent etc etc.
(Faulty) math belies all of the (faulty) systems. Systems aren't necessarily a bad thing; any more than one can't have some good "issues".
Quote from: woods101 on Jun 08, 08:59 PM 2012There is a founding statement regarding this forum that placed an emphasis on open-mindedness and respect in relation to how we deal with each other.
The basic problem with all of the "politics" in such a policy is that there ought to not be any "dealing with each other".
Open-mindedness is a mental thing, as is tolerance of others, speculation, etc. It's nothing personal. Focus on the "written word".
Quote from: woods101 on Jun 08, 08:59 PM 2012If you don't like it - ignore it.
"Worked" for the (extinct) dodo.
Hey, the sun's up here in Canada, and i'm going for a 3 hour hike, to work on my own system, and rest my mind from other stuff. And some family get-togethers throughout next week.
Easy, well finish what you start, then it's not a matter of having to ignore anything. Do your best, let it go, really.