You can be sure of winning aimed 10 un.thisway.
Sceptic?????
Test all Wiesbaden sessions/about 37/from 5th.of june
onwards and find out how each one won aimed 10 un.
Cheers vile!
But for how many spins are you betting on each set of lines?
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 18, 03:56 AM 2012
Cheers vile!
But for how many spins are you betting on each set of lines?
Attacking in cycles untill it ends;
4
6
2..trigg betting last 3 lines
6-w-continue betting same
3-l-switch on furthest 3 lines...3,1,5
3-w-continue same
5-w
4-l-attack ends...restart on last 3 lines...3,4,5 with same procedure
Quote from: vile on Jun 18, 04:10 AM 2012
Attacking in cycles until it ends;
4
6
2..trigg betting last 3 lines
6-w-continue betting same
3-l-switch on furthest 3 lines...3,1,5
3-w-continue same
5-w
4-l-attack ends...restart on last 3 lines...3,4,5 with same procedure
What is your stop loss?
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 18, 04:56 AM 2012
What is your stop-loss?
Untill I get aimed 10 units.
Here there are not large drawdowns......just wait for either last/furthest
clasters and you are there,while chops mostly takes you 1 un.on each
cycle attack......clasters are inevitable and it happened in each of 40/now/
Wiesbaden past sessions.Am not so sure/would have to look/but largest
drawndown was 49 un.
dear mr. vile or anybody who wants to try
Belive it or not, this is first session i decided to test with this bet.
Rules should be this: last 3 lines going on win unitl lose, then switch to futhest bet until lose, then last 3 again and so on
So am i doing something wrong or with this numbers this loses heavily?
Maybe you should consider stop loss?
Cheers
Drazen
You see my dear Drazen......YOU ARE WRONG.
Quote from: vile on Jun 18, 06:49 AM 2012
You see my dear Drazen......YOU ARE WRONG.
Thanks a lot mr. vile for your time and for correction. I see now.
Cheers
Drazen
Thanks Vile for your system.
What is MSIP ? Can you more specific in your explanations, are you refering to another system in the forum ?
Anyway, the +1/-1 progression you are using is, i am sure you know, D'Alembert, and as a very famous italian author said about it 30 years ago " the d'Alembert has made more victims that the 14-18 war !" Personnaly i can testify it's true....
That's why, if you don't mind, i would like some more précision on your bet selection.
Take care
Quote from: thepilot on Jun 18, 07:34 AM 2012
Thanks Vile for your system.
What is MSIP ? Can you more specific in your explanations, are you refering to another system in the forum ?
Anyway, the +1/-1 progression you are using is, i am sure you know, D'Alembert, and as a very famous italian author said about it 30 years ago " the d'Alembert has made more victims that the 14-18 war !" Personnaly i can testify it's true....
That's why, if you don't mind, i would like some more précision on your bet selection.
Take care
t es français ?
sometimes its dangerous, but if a system doesnt go for a lengthy loss I think it would recover. GUT progression might be suitable also.
Quote from: thepilot on Jun 18, 07:34 AM 2012
Thanks Vile for your system.
What is MSIP ? Can you more specific in your explanations, are you refering to another system in the forum ?
Anyway, the +1/-1 progression you are using is, i am sure you know, D'Alembert, and as a very famous italian author said about it 30 years ago " the d'Alembert has made more victims that the 14-18 war !" Personnaly i can testify it's true....
That's why, if you don't mind, i would like some more précision on your bet selection.
Take care
-MSIP-method study it properly/another thread that our member MOP busted/
therefore it's only continuation of same bet with a tweak here.
BTW-yes 1+ 1-,....but whenever you in new plus comeback to 1 un.
It wins couse you just wait for streaks of last/furthest 3 lines.
That's why it's call study and FIND OUT HOW LINES ARE BEHAVING IN STREAKS.
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jun 18, 08:06 AM 2012
And what is happening when we have last/furthest ,last/furthest,last/furthest etc?
Betting 3 lines = 18 numbers.
ECs = 18 numbers.
There is no deference cause Lines or ECS or any other bet doesn't have any particular behaviour.
If you STUDY it,as suggested,then you may find that lines behaviour in attack in cycles
might make you rich finally.As suggested walk/test last 40 Wiesbaden sessions/and don't talk empty
talk.Work.
To Justanother gambler : yes i am french, and playing roulette everyday since 25 years at Enghien, near Paris
TO Vile : thanks, i understand now. I am going to be in front of the tables in one hour and study it for real...
Quote from: thepilot on Jun 18, 08:31 AM 2012
To Justanother gambler : yes i am french, and playing roulette everyday since 25 years at Enghien, near Paris
TO Vile : thanks, i understand now. I am going to be in front of the tables in one hour and study it for real...
--Good luck....and DON'T forget if you have several chops in the row,than one good strike of wins,
then don't reduce your next bet say to 5 un./if you where priorly on 6 un./but to 1 eventually 2 un...if you are in any plus with strike win.Start with 1 eurox3=3 euros and you will get your 10 un.or 30 euros,
but again you maybe play larger bets.
MOP have deleted all your posts and be nice and don't disturb traying to bust my thread again.
Suggestion to you;Open a thread how roulette can't work and preach it in your own house.
Verry interesting, Ville
Thank you for your contribution. I could not find the matrix!! :'(
I will give this a shot very soon.
Sam
I have plenty free time,pensioner.So am going to
attach every day 6 Wiesbaden sessions with some
further explanation of the bet if need.
Why?????
To show you behaviour of the lines and that each session won.
Will do that untill I lose first session...lol...that might last long.
Helo Vile!
Interesting post.
How do you recover when you 49 down?
Thanks.
Quote from: donik7777 on Jun 18, 12:32 PM 2012
Helo Vile!
Interesting post.
How do you recover when you 49 down?
Thanks.
You can see from att.18...29- and after second cycle attack 17+session ends
vile can you verify what I'm playing it right? Progression +1 on L -1 on W
5
4
6
4+3 bet 456
4+6 bet 456
2+3 bet 123
6+0 bet 624
2+3 bet 624
5+0 bet 135
1+3 bet 135
4+0 bet 145
6-3 bet 236
1-9 bet 164
5-18 bet 156
6-6 bet 156
3-15 bet 356
3-3 bet 356
1-12 bet 124
1+0 bet 124
4+3 bet 124
6+0 bet 641
4+3 bet 641
2+0 bet 235
2+3 bet 235
1+0 bet 124
6-3 bet 356
6+3 bet 356
5+6 bet 356
5+9 bet 356
1+6 bet 156
4+3 bet 234
6+0 bet 146
0-3 bet 146
4+3 bet 146
3+0 bet 235
5+3 bet 235
2+6 bet 235
3+9 bet 235
2+12 bet 235
2+15
Quote from: biagle on Jun 18, 02:07 PM 2012
vile can you verify what I'm playing it right? Progression +1 on L -1 on W
5
4
6
4+3 bet 456
4+6 bet 456
2+3 bet 123
6+0 bet 624
2+3 bet 624
5+0 bet 135
1+3 bet 135
4+0 bet 145
6-3 bet 236
1-9 bet 164
5-18 bet 156
6-6 bet 156
3-15 bet 356
3-3 bet 356
1-12 bet 124
1+0 bet 124
4+3 bet 124
6+0 bet 641
4+3 bet 641
2+0 bet 235
2+3 bet 235
1+0 bet 124
6-3 bet 356
6+3 bet 356
5+6 bet 356
5+9 bet 356
1+6 bet 156
4+3 bet 234
6+0 bet 146
0-3 bet 146
4+3 bet 146
3+0 bet 235
5+3 bet 235
2+6 bet 235
3+9 bet 235
2+12 bet 235
2+15
Had a quick look it seems ok..it would be much easier to chack on excel.
Now football.
As promised 3 more wiesbaden winning sessions.
And now to casino getting my 10 un.
In the meanwhile STUDY why this is winning.
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jun 18, 05:22 PM 2012
vile you have posted that when the 3def line bet is losing the we are switching to the 3 furtherest back lines....yet in your example You are including the last line that appeared....
so how can you say that we must bet the furtherest back lines?
I tested with your way and with the other way that it genuinely includes the furtherest 3 lines and the win streaks that u said aren t happening...they are behaving exactly as the Ecs bets...randomly.
This is not a post to offend the method...it s a post that I am telling the results of the method after testing.
Must go.....read firast post propely and you will get .Or maybe you will never get it.
You are testing nothing only talking empty talk....go and play wit your toys kid,and
will you be so kind to take a walk.
Hello MOP,
I would be willing to transfer $50 to you for playing this method as long as I get 25% of your winnings :)
Perhaps a method of your choice MOP
As a friendly wager?
In that case make it $100 MOP
Alright, how about Pattern Breaker played after a virtual loss?
BR $70, Units won per game $10
I estimate that you will go at least 50 games before a loss.
Quote from: amk on Jun 18, 06:13 PM 2012
Alright, how about Pattern Breaker played after a virtual loss?
BR $70, Units won per game $10
I estimate that you will go at least 50 games before a loss.
Hello Amk
can you post yr stats please? I guess there is no need 2 wait 4 a virtual loss. According 2 JL in almost 4000 games he played he had only 2 or 3 double losses. ;D So MOP all You have 2 do is 2 increase yr bet size after a loss n u make constant profit. Its that simple. O0
Regards
There are many ways to play PB, i am a abit confused. :question:
Amk, what is the recommended progression?
Hello Vile,
Is it possible that there are some mistakes in the excel TIC-TAC 16.
when i look at the first lost you are writing -1, but there are 2 losses so this would be -2, right.
and why aren't you writing a lose when zero comes.
maybe i am reading it wrong, could clarify it please.
I think Tic-Tac 18 has a mistake too, i get -2 at the end where you get +17
you counted 2 lossses of -5 as one so you had -5 instead of -10
also with the 6 and 8 later
Correct me if I am wrong
Quote from: soggett on Jun 19, 05:45 AM 2012
I think Tic-Tac 18 has a mistake too, i get -2 at the end where you get +17
you counted 2 lossses of -5 as one so you had -5 instead of -10
also with the 6 and 8 later
Correct me if I am wrong
-Could be typo but remind me exactly on which spin,sir.
Quote from: peauke on Jun 19, 04:18 AM 2012
Hello Vile,
Is it possible that there are some mistakes in the excel TIC-TAC 16.
when i look at the first lost you are writing -1, but there are 2 losses so this would be -2, right.
and why aren't you writing a lose when zero comes.
maybe i am reading it wrong, could clarify it please.
-2 loses and 1 win which is 1------every cycle attack from the yellow signed.
Quote from: vile on Jun 19, 06:25 AM 2012
-Could be typo but remind me exactly on which spin,sir.
spin 18 (number 13) you have -5 - shouldn't it be -10
spin 29 (number 36) you have -6 - shouldn't it be -12
spin 34 (number 33) you have -8 - shouldnt it be -16
If I am not mistaken
Quote from: vile on Jun 19, 06:27 AM 2012
-2 loses and 1 win which is 1------every cycle attack from the yellow signed.
When i look at the 3th cycle attack you lose twice so -2 and the next cycle you lose 3 times and win once with 2 units on each line so -4.
please look at the excel sheet.
Quote from: soggett on Jun 19, 07:04 AM 2012
spin 18 (number 13) you have -5 - shouldn't it be -10
spin 29 (number 36) you have -6 - shouldn't it be -12
spin 34 (number 33) you have -8 - shouldnt it be -16
If I am not mistaken
--No You aren't mistaken...it happens,typo.....sea,sunshine,swimming...the brain colapses sometimes
on this hot weather......will correct when get time.
Quote from: peauke on Jun 19, 07:20 AM 2012
When i look at the 3th cycle attack you lose twice so -2 and the next cycle you lose 3 times and win once with 2 units on each line so -4.
please look at the excel sheet.
Same unswer as previous......will look after afternoon swim.
Quote from: vile on Jun 19, 07:31 AM 2012
Same answer as previous......will look after afternoon swim.
Sounds great to take a swim :twisted: , but i have to work :-\
thanks for looking
Quote from: vile on Jun 19, 07:30 AM 2012
--No You aren't mistaken...it happens,typo.....sea,sunshine,swimming...the brain colapses sometimes
on this hot weather......will correct when get time.
No problem, just want to make sure I got it right ;)
Excel file posted has many mistakes but its not a real issue here. D real issue is d playability.
Wally Gator expressed some doubts n so did i but it was all ignored. Flat betting version of lines betting like in original post is just hit n miss in my opinion. WG reported that it tanked n i was never able 2 get any positive results as well.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 19, 09:14 AM 2012
Excel file posted has many mistakes but its not a real issue here. D real issue is d playability.
Wally Gator expressed some doubts n so did i but it was all ignored. Flat betting version of lines betting like in original post is just hit n miss in my opinion. WG reported that it tanked n i was never able 2 get any positive results as well.
It wasn't ignoring,I have unswered WG that I can't see his numbers while uploading/try and you will see/---second I never ever recheck somebodys numbers unless it is ex permanenzens from some casino.Original post with lines from each dozen,playing it on several tables,flat bet,like I do live
every night for 7 months,aiming 5 un.--And now if I would produce to you 40 Wiesbaden sessions,one after other,aim 5 un.all winning but I will not waste my time with anybody here any longer as have better things to do right now,swimming,sunburning,yachting,instead of deleting posts of MOP and proving to any of you wether it works or no.
vile thank you for your system and your time and effort.
I will try it the weekend.
Cheers.
Quote from: amk on Jun 18, 06:13 PM 2012
Alright, how about Pattern Breaker played after a virtual loss?
BR $70, Units won per game $10
I estimate that you will go at least 50 games before a loss.
amk
I will faithfully test this and truthfully report if you will give me the exact rules. I mean the final rules. No "tweaks" after you give them to me.
I will allow 70 Euro of my 200 Euro bankroll at Dublin. First I must win 70 Euro on another game, then I'll risk it.
Let me recap: You are saying that on a 70Euro bankroll I should be able to win fifty games without a loss and profit 10Euro per game.
Now is the red correct?
TwoCat
Videos or no videos?
EDIT: Would Bet Voyager be better? Would my RNG at Riverwind do? Oops! No proof there.
I will send you the 70 euro TwoCat for 20% of your winnings.
No tweaks, just play PB after one virtual loss. Only thing is that this will take a longtime but you are tracking H/L O/E at the sametime. Once there is a loss in either the H/L or O/E then you start playing and finish that game.
For example:
You keep track of H/L O/E at the sametime
H/L O/E
HHH OOE
LLL EOE
LLL EOE
HLH EEE
HHH EEE
LHL OOO
HHL EOE
HHL EEO
LLH
HLL
...... missing pattern is LHH and hits directly = one virtual loss.
At the same time your are tracking O/E which is at a different sequence length. Once you see the lose now you will play your real game on O/E and bet that the missing pattern will not appear when it is time to bet.
Now, is it possible to lose on your first game, yes, can the zero be trouble, yes. You will have to very unlucky to lose before reaching 50 games. After which a streak of 50 or more is possible again.
p.s.
Sorry to go off topic on this thread
Quote from: amk on Jun 19, 01:33 PM 2012
I will send you the 70 euro TwoCat for 20% of your winnings.
No tweaks, just play PB after one virtual loss. Only thing is that this will take a longtime but you are tracking H/L O/E at the sametime. Once there is a loss in either the H/L or O/E then you start playing and finish that game.
For example:
You keep track of H/L O/E at the sametime
H/L O/E
HHH OOE
LLL EOE
LLL EOE
HLH EEE
HHH EEE
LHL OOO
HHL EOE
HHL EEO
LLH
HLL
...... missing pattern is LHH and hits directly = one virtual loss.
At the same time your are tracking O/E which is at a different sequence length. Once you see the lose now you will play your real game on O/E and bet that the missing pattern will not appear when it is time to bet.
Now, is it possible to lose on your first game, yes, can the zero be trouble, yes. You will have to very unlucky to lose before reaching 50 games. After which a streak of 50 or more is possible again.
Hi AMK. I've been scrutinizing the flow of wins and losses for Pattern Breaker over my nearly 4000 game sample. Most losses occur when you are betting against three of the same I.E EEE or HHH. I have been switiching between betting against the 8th pattern and betting for it. Betting for the pattern As the knowledgeable XXVV told me a while back. Is a lucrative move as the forces of random are trying to close that 8th pattern. You usually get one match even if you don't get a total match.
I have also been looking at the value of the 7th pattern. And I am considering starting a new method dedicated to it alone. As its given me a lot of success as a sub/bonus bet over the last 3 or so months. When playing both High and Low and Odd and Even as I do simultaneously. At least one of those even chances closes that 7th pattern in two or less attempts ALWAYS. And the longest I have on record for it EVER taking to close that seventh pattern is SIX ATTEMPTS.
That means over 3910 now played games. a 63 unit progression would have survived and made 3910 UNITS PROFIT. I like those numbers very much.
Quote from: amk on Jun 18, 06:13 PM 2012
Alright, how about Pattern Breaker played after a virtual loss?
BR $70, Units won per game $10
I estimate that you will go at least 50 games before a loss.
Playing High and Low and Odd and Even simultaneously AMK. I have a record of 3910/3 for wins and losses. Its the reason that waiting is worth it. The reason this is overall still one of the greatest methods ever. Not just because its mine but because it works. And recently I have been scrutinizing the breakdown of the 7TH pattern. And its beautiful. You allow random to work for you by forming two thirds of that 7th pattern. You then attempt to finish the job. In 3910 played games a 63 unit progression would still be standing. With the average number of attempts to close PATTERN 7 being **TWO**. Again it makes the waiting that much sweeter.
wow, great developments JohnLegend. Looking forward to the thread/threads :)
I think we are at a new height on this forum at the moment which will only go up. Just goes to show that only through sharing can we advance.
amk
I'm going to start a new thread for this. "The PB Challenge".
Sam
Quote from: amk on Jun 19, 01:58 PM 2012
wow, great developments JohnLegend. Looking forward to the thread/threads :)
I think we are at a new height on this forum at the moment which will only go up. Just goes to show that only through sharing can we advance.
Exactly. Warrior has taken CODE 4 and DIVIDE & CONQUER to a great place. Atlantis and Cofi have inspired me to come up with something that will be shown in all its glory once Bayes is ready. And the Vile one has pushed an excellent Line method to the top of the forum where it ought to stay for years. If people knew a roulette killer when they saw one.
And PATTERN BREAKER continues to astound me with its granite tough double loss record. And now The 7TH PATTERN is looking like another gift to profit from along the road. Observe its breakdown too AMK you will like it.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 19, 02:02 PM 2012
amk
I'm going to start a new thread for this. "The PB Challenge".
Sam
You just follow what I tell you when you start playing it on BV Sam. And you will have no problem financing your grand kids through college. If American Colleges are anything like those American Pie movies theyll have some fun LoL.
John
You have insulted me enough. amk is not an insulting person. I can work with him.
You said I offered you a PayPal bribe. Brother, you should be ashamed. I no more offered you a bribe than amk just offered me one. It's a business proposition.
I have left you alone and intend to keep doing so. I would expect the same courtesy unless you can be helpful. I welcome all help.
TwoCatSam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 19, 02:15 PM 2012
John
You have insulted me enough. amk is not an insulting person. I can work with him.
You said I offered you a PayPal bribe. Brother, you should be ashamed. I no more offered you a bribe than amk just offered me one. It's a business proposition.
I have left you alone and intend to keep doing so. I would expect the same courtesy unless you can be helpful. I welcome all help.
TwoCatSam
Sam thats your perrogative. I dont recall you being all sun and roses with me either. But I am big enough to forgive and forget and move on. I want you to succeed on BV. An I know you will if you are doing it as I would. AMK is a great guy so you are in great hands. So I will leave it with him. If you harbour hard feelings.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 19, 02:09 PM 2012
You just follow what I tell you when you start playing it on BV Sam. And you will have no problem financing your grand kids through college. If American Colleges are anything like those American Pie movies theyll have some fun LoL.
I haven't had much time to participate in the forum lately but just wanted to quickly add to your comment. If you stick to the rules for each method or even for your own personal methods, you will win~win~win. Maybe it's not so much the method thats the actual "grail" itself, but rather the discipline and a better understanding of randomness combined with the methods that makes it the "grail"...just a thought. And I agree that you will have no problem financing your kids college education. I am simply playing CODE 4, D&C, Hybrid D&C, P4, PB and now Trilogy and the results remain solid and my BR continues to grow.
Quote from: Chauncy47 on Jun 19, 02:46 PM 2012
I haven't had much time to participate in the forum lately but just wanted to quickly add to your comment. If you stick to the rules for each method or even for your own personal methods, you will win~win~win. Maybe it's not so much the method that's the actual "grail" itself, but rather the discipline and a better understanding of randomness combined with the methods that makes it the "grail"...just a thought. And I agree that you will have no problem financing your kids college education. I am simply playing CODE 4, D&C, Hybrid D&C, P4, PB and now Trilogy and the results remain solid and my BR continues to grow.
Hi Chauncy. One day who knows this could be your job if you want it. TIME/MONEY the two things most of us don't have enough of. You should when you have time Chauncy show them what just a 200 unit start has achieved. Through your solid adherance to Hit and Run. And acute observations of your surroundings and feeling of when its time to close it down. The human factor. That should inspire a few more with the right stuff.
Vile,
I've been thinking about this system and how you play it. It seems to me that the principles that are used to make this system work if valid should be even more valid if we used them on streets.
I've often said that if a system will work on any bet on the table, it should work on any other bet on the table. It just has to be adjusted for each payoff amount, but it should work in the long run.
Another way to look at this is if it won't work on one of the bet positions, ultimately it won't work on any of them.
If principles that make this work on double streets were applied to single streets they should be more effective. Granted we would have to bet 6 units each spin and thus need a larger bankroll, but we should have a little higher strike rate. And, of course, if we could play in by betting 18 single numbers, we should get the purest use of the winning principle. Playing 18 different numbers at different amounts each bet is probably too complicated to play, but it should work even better.
Any thoughts on this idea?
Did you look at the streets also?
George
I'm not sure if this is valid but it could be that this method works great on single numbers, pretty well on single streets, okay on double streets, not quite on dozens, and it would just be follow the last spin on even chances and we know in the long run that tanks.
I've always thought that if it worked on double streets it should work on single numbers, streets, dozens and even chances.
My old brain is in quicksand. Help me get out.
George
Streets seem to be the most pliable solution when it comes to roulette in my opinion.
Splits is getting too greedy. Single numbers are a no-no unless you have the loan company on speed dial.
Dozens are fools gold and the even chances will grind you down. ;D
How's that for a summary.
Quote from: flukey luke on Jun 19, 07:22 PM 2012
Streets seem to be the most pliable solution when it comes to roulette in my opinion.
Splits is getting too greedy. Single numbers are a no-no unless you have the loan company on speed dial.
Dozens are fools gold and the even chances will grind you down. ;D
How's that for a summary.
Does that mean that you think a street system will work just fine on a Line bet or vice versa?
I should have added line bets are like wearing a straightjacket!
I would be pretty confident in saying that most systems would perform better as far as risk vs reward goes if you can somehow manage to incorporate the bet into streets.
Quote from: GLC on Jun 19, 07:10 PM 2012
Vile,
I've been thinking about this system and how you play it. It seems to me that the principles that are used to make this system work if valid should be even more valid if we used them on streets.
I've often said that if a system will work on any bet on the table, it should work on any other bet on the table. It just has to be adjusted for each payoff amount, but it should work in the long run.
Another way to look at this is if it won't work on one of the bet positions, ultimately it won't work on any of them.
If principles that make this work on double streets were applied to single streets they should be more effective. Granted we would have to bet 6 units each spin and thus need a larger bankroll, but we should have a little higher strike rate. And, of course, if we could play in by betting 18 single numbers, we should get the purest use of the winning principle. Playing 18 different numbers at different amounts each bet is probably too complicated to play, but it should work even better.
Any thoughts on this idea?
Did you look at the streets also?
George
George mate,
Did have look at the streets,it's almost same,but much harder to play and track visually as I do
on two tables every night on lines.it's fact it could go sometimes into deep downs but believe
me it always gets few large strikes when you reach your goal.Mainly I play this with lot of money in my pockets,and being few hundreds down means nothing when you aware that night session in
casino just can not go without these strikes.As said at begining of the thread this method
relays on last/further 3 line strikes.Will keep it playing as long as it wins me 10-20 units every night.
Am also aware that it probably will come bad run one night........BUT WHEN.....And will I live that long.
Hi vile,
Now I've returned to the thread after some real-life stuff, I'm not so sure I totally understand it after the tweak you made.
I *think* you are now waiting for 3 different lines to appear consecutively (don't have to be in different dozens) then bet those 3. If win continue betting them until a loss (which could be on first spin) then SWITCH to the other 3 lines until the first loss - then it's wait for 3 unique lines to appear again before re-commence betting (which could happen straight away sometimes)
At least I think that's it, vile. Am I right? Thanks.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 20, 06:28 AM 2012
Hi vile,
Now I've returned to the thread after some real-life stuff, I'm not so sure I totally understand it after the tweak you made.
I *think* you are now waiting for 3 different lines to appear consecutively (don't have to be in different dozens) then bet those 3. If win continue betting them until a loss (which could be on first spin) then SWITCH to the other 3 lines until the first loss - then it's wait for 3 unique lines to appear again before re-commence betting (which could happen straight away sometimes)
At least I think that's it, vile. Am I right? Thanks.
A.
Hi Atlantis,
No you are not right...this bet goes in continuation,onc you start;
3
6
2....tr.3,6,2
4-l...now switch on 3 furthest/priorly 3,6,2/which is 4,1,5
1-w
6-l.......end of first attack......1-.....rise next cycle to 2 un........betting 4,1,6
6-w...continue same
4-w..same
2-lose......switch to opposite 4,1,6....which is 2,3,5
5-w
1-l...end of second attack...won 2 units.......2,5,1 next bet
Hopping its clear.This bet is must in live casino preferably 2 tables,visual tracking.
Its winning for me long now,why wouldn't for you.Don't worry sometimes of some drawndowns,
as it always comes back.Aim 10 to 15-un. with 500 un.x3
Yes - all clear now.
So one attack consists of betting the qualifying lines until loss THEN the opposite lines of the qualifiers until a loss.
After an attack is complete you increase or reduce unit progression as required and continue on immediately with the next attack on the latest 3 different lines.
etc.. etc..
Thank you. A.
Quote from: vile on Jun 20, 07:03 AM 2012
Hi Atlantis,
No you are not right...this bet goes in continuation,onc you start;
3
6
2....tr.3,6,2
4-l...now switch on 3 furthest/priorly 3,6,2/which is 4,1,5
1-w
6-l.......end of first attack......1-.....rise next cycle to 2 un........betting 4,1,6
6-w...continue same
4-w..same
2-lose......switch to opposite 4,1,6....which is 2,3,5
5-w
1-l...end of second attack...won 2 units.......2,5,1 next bet
Hopping its clear.This bet is must in live casino preferably 2 tables,visual tracking.
Its winning for me long now,why wouldn't for you.Don't worry sometimes of some drawndowns,
as it always comes back.Aim 10 to 15-un. with 500 un.x3
Hi Mr. Vile,
Following your example above, what should we do if we lose after two same lines:
3
6
2....tr.3,6,2
4-l...now switch on 3 furthest/priorly 3,6,2/which is 4,1,5
1-w
6-l.......end of first attack......1-.....rise next cycle to 2 un........betting 4,1,6
6-w...continue same
2-lose...... DO WE PLACE VIRTUAL BETS (until 3 different lines in a row) OR BET OPPOSITE TO LAST 3 UNIQE LINES?
Thanks
Hi Vile,
This really is good and is one of my favourites right now. I am definately going to play for real. So thanks again for your great work. The below session was my latest from SLC Live Auto-Wheel.
I reached my target on spin 6 - but played on anyway to see...
# Next Bet Curr +/-
=======================
1
6
4 A)1-6-4 @ 1 +0
5 L B)2-5-3 @ 2 -3
3 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +3
2 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +6 **MY TARGET REACHED
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 2 +3
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 2 +9
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 1 +12
1 L B)1-5-6 @ 2 +9
2 L A)3-1-2 @ 3 +3
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +12
1 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +15
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +18
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +21
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +24
6 L B)4-5-6 @ 2 +21
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +27
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +30
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +33
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +36
4 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +39
3 L A)5-4-3 @ 2 +36
2 L B)6-1-2 @ 3 +30
2 W B)6-1-2 @ 1 +39
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 2 +36
1 L B)5-1-6 @ 3 +30
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +39
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +42 **Stopped Test Here.
29 spins +42
Highest Bet=3
:)
A.
Glad to hear that Atlantis.
Sometimes you might not have such
a good start,but don't panic/if your pockets
are full/it inevitably comes back in strikes,
either way.
Good work, A.
played this for a 100 spins today got my 10u 3x ..... will test it more --thanks
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 20, 02:45 PM 2012
Hi Vile,
This really is good and is one of my favourites right now. I am definately going to play for real. So thanks again for your great work. The below session was my latest from SLC Live Auto-Wheel.
I reached my target on spin 6 - but played on anyway to see...
# Next Bet Curr +/-
=======================
1
6
4 A)1-6-4 @ 1 +0
5 L B)2-5-3 @ 2 -3
3 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +3
2 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +6 **MY TARGET REACHED
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 2 +3
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 2 +9
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 1 +12
1 L B)1-5-6 @ 2 +9
2 L A)3-1-2 @ 3 +3
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +12
1 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +15
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +18
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +21
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +24
6 L B)4-5-6 @ 2 +21
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +27
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +30
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +33
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +36
4 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +39
3 L A)5-4-3 @ 2 +36
2 L B)6-1-2 @ 3 +30
2 W B)6-1-2 @ 1 +39
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 2 +36
1 L B)5-1-6 @ 3 +30
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +39
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +42 **Stopped Test Here.
29 spins +42
Highest Bet=3
:)
A.
R we not supposed 2 increase or decrease bet size after each cycle of bets.? So :
1
6
4
5 L 1u u always bet 1u here
3 W 1u
2 W 1u
4 L 1u end of series Yr balance is 0 n u continue at 1u
F u r down in a cycle u go 1u up, f u up 1u down, even stay d same. :D
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 20, 02:45 PM 2012
Hi Vile,
This really is good and is one of my favourites right now. I am definately going to play for real. So thanks again for your great work. The below session was my latest from SLC Live Auto-Wheel.
I reached my target on spin 6 - but played on anyway to see...
# Next Bet Curr +/-
=======================
1
6
4 A)1-6-4 @ 1 +0
5 L B)2-5-3 @ 2 -3
3 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +3
2 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +6 **MY TARGET REACHED
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 2 +3-------------------------------------0-------new cycle
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 2 +9
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 1 +12
1 L B)1-5-6 @ 2 +9
2 L A)3-1-2 @ 3 +3------------------------------------0-------new cycle
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +12 w
1 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +15 w
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +18 w
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +21 w
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +24 w
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +27 l
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +30 w
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +33 w
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +36 w
4 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +39 w
3 L A)5-4-3 @ 2 +36 l..............end of cycle.........7+
2 L B)6-1-2 @ 3 +30 l
2 W B)6-1-2 @ 1 +39 w
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 2 +36 l...end cycle 1- next bet 2....6+
1 L B)5-1-6 @ 3 +30 l
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +39 w
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +42 w..........................................7+
29 spins +42
Highest Bet=3
:)
A.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 21, 12:01 AM 2012
R we not supposed 2 increase or decrease bet size after each cycle of bets.? So :
1
6
4
5 L 1u u always bet 1u here
3 W 1u
2 W 1u
4 L 1u end of series Yr balance is 0 n u continue at 1u
F u r down in a cycle u go 1u up, f u up 1u down, even stay d same. :D
That's exactly what I did, Robeenhuut. ?!
The only thing different possibly is that I reset to 1u base bet on a new high or if level happened within a cycle of A/B attacks.
A.
That's how it should be done Atl.
If you for example lose 4 cycles say 1 un each cycle
1- 2
2- 3- 3
3- 6- 4
4- 10- 5
10+..2 w 2......now back to 2,if it was + back to 1
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 20, 02:45 PM 2012
Hi Vile,
This really is good and is one of my favourites right now. I am definately going to play for real. So thanks again for your great work. The below session was my latest from SLC Live Auto-Wheel.
I reached my target on spin 6 - but played on anyway to see...
# Next Bet Curr +/-
=======================
1
6
4 A)1-6-4 @ 1 +0
5 L B)2-5-3 @ 2 -3 here u bet 2u within 1st circle
3 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +3
2 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +6 **MY TARGET REACHED
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 2 +3 u start 2nd cycle at 2u but u r still up after 1st circle ;D
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 2 +9
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 1 +12
1 L B)1-5-6 @ 2 +9
2 L A)3-1-2 @ 3 +3
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +12
1 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +15
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +18
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +21
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +24
6 L B)4-5-6 @ 2 +21
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +27
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +30
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +33
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +36
4 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +39
3 L A)5-4-3 @ 2 +36
2 L B)6-1-2 @ 3 +30
2 W B)6-1-2 @ 1 +39
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 2 +36
1 L B)5-1-6 @ 3 +30
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +39
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +42 **Stopped Test Here.
29 spins +42
Highest Bet=3
:)
A.
Hi vile, RobeenHuut.
Ok. I realise I had a favourable session playing +1/-1 on W/L only. I agree it is probably much safer playing +1/-1 after the results of a cycle.
# Next Bet Curr +/-
=======================
1
6
4 A)1-6-4 @ 1 +0
5 L B)2-5-3 @ 1 -3
3 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +0
2 W B)2-5-3 @ 1 +3
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 1 +0 ==new cycle. Stay @ 1u
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 1 +3
3 W A)3-2-4 @ 1 +6
1 L B)1-5-6 @ 1 +3
2 L A)3-1-2 @ 1 +0 ==new cycle. Stay @ 1u
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +3
1 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +6
3 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +9
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +12
2 W A)3-1-2 @ 1 +15
6 L B)4-5-6 @ 1 +12
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +15
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +18
6 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +21
5 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +24
4 W B)4-5-6 @ 1 +27
3 L A)5-4-3 @ 1 +24 ==new cycle. Stay @ 1u
2 L B)6-1-2 @ 1 +21
2 W B)6-1-2 @ 1 +24
4 L A)3-2-4 @ 1 +21 ==new cycle. Up to 2u
1 L B)5-1-6 @ 2 +15
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +21
5 W B)5-1-6 @ 1 +24
Can you confirm I played it correctly.
Thanks,
A.
Correct mate.
This is a very good way of play ,,,,,thanks a lot
Well this morning i finished the bot and tonight i'll let it ride all night long.If i'll see the same results as my hand tests i'll play it real money.I'll keep you posted guys.
I'm so confused.
Must take a break from this idea for a day or so..........
TCS
Quote from: xxlakis on Jun 21, 09:33 AM 2012
Well this morning i finished the bot and tonight i'll let it ride all night long.If i'll see the same results as my hand tests i'll play it real money.I'll keep you posted guys.
hi, and what is your results?