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Title: A new idea
Post by: flukey luke on Jun 20, 05:27 PM 2012
I had this idea today. It is a little bit different from the usual.

1
1
5
4
6 (2,3) = 1.
3 (1,2) = 1.
4 (1,2) = 2.
6 (1,2) = 3.
3 (1,2) = 4.
2 (1,5) = 1.
3 (1,5) = 2.
5 (1,4) = 1.
5 (1,4) = 2.
2 (1,4) = 3.
6 (1,4) = 4.
5 (1,4) = 5.
2 (1,4) = 6.
3 (1,4) = 7.
1 (4,6) = 1.
6 (4,5) = 1.
2 (4,5) = 2.
4 (3,5) = 1.

I will explain it in parts and then it should all come together in the end.

Let's start with lines.

1-6 = 1.
7-12 = 2.
13-18 = 3.
19-24 = 4.
25-30 = 5.
31-36 = 6.

What I am doing in the example above is looking for the 2 furthest back lines and then recording them. So the first 4 original lines are 1, 5, 4 and 6 leaving 2 and 3 as the furthest back. The 3 appears on the very next result and this then leaves the 1 and 2 as the furthest back. I also keep a running count of how many spins the 2 furthest back have went missing.
The example above shows that the 1 and 4 lines went missing for 7 spins.

So that part is pretty straightforward. It starts to get a little more complicated now.
Title: Re: A new idea
Post by: flukey luke on Jun 20, 05:48 PM 2012
1-1 = 1,6.
1-2 = 1,2.
1-3 = 2,3,4.
1-4 = 3,4,5.
1-5 = 3,4,5.
1-6 = 1,5,6.

2-1 = 1,4,5.
2-2 = 2,6.
2-3 = 1,2,3.
2-4 = 2,3,4.
2-5 = 1,3,5.
2-6 = 4,5,6.

3-1 = 1,2,4.
3-2 = 2,4,5.
3-3 = 3,6.
3-4 = 1,4.
3-5 = 2,5.
3-6 = 3,6.

4-1 = 1,3.
4-2 = 2,3,4.
4-3 = 3,5.
4-4 = 4,6.
4-5 = 1,4,5.
4-6 = 2,6.

5-1 = 1,2,3.
5-2 = 2,3,5.
5-3 = 1,3,4.
5-4 = 2,4,5.
5-5 = 5,6.
5-6 = 1,4,6.

6-1 = 1,5.
6-2 = 1,2.
6-3 = 3.
6-4 = 4.
6-5 = 2,5.
6-6 = 6.

The above is CHART 1 which you need to use to add extra data.

1
1
5
4
6 (2,3) = 1.

So the bit above is going back to the first example. 1, 5, 4 and 6 are the first four original lines. The two furthest back are the 2 and 3.

I need to start from where the 4 line appeared and then went to the 6 line. I use the CHART and locate the 4-6. That should read 2,6. I then mark the example as follows....

1
1
5
4
6 (2,3) = 1. (2,6)

Here is the example complete....

1
1
5
4
6 (2,3) = 1. (2,6)
3 (1,2) = 1. (3)
4 (1,2) = 2. (1,4)
6 (1,2) = 3. (2,6)
3 (1,2) = 4. (3)
2 (1,5) = 1. (2,4,5)
3 (1,5) = 2. (1,2,3)
5 (1,4) = 1. (2,5)
5 (1,4) = 2. (5,6)
2 (1,4) = 3. (2,3,5)
6 (1,4) = 4. (4,5,6)
5 (1,4) = 5. (2,5)
2 (1,4) = 6. (2,3,5)
3 (1,4) = 7. (1,2,3)
1 (4,6) = 1. (1,2,4)
6 (4,5) = 1. (1,5,6)
2 (4,5) = 2. (1,2)
4 (3,5) = 1. (2,3,4)

Next I will explain how to use this information.




Title: Re: A new idea
Post by: flukey luke on Jun 20, 06:02 PM 2012
CHART 2 is the betting chart.

No 1 on a 1. bet 3,4,5.
No 1 on a 2. bet 2,4,6.
No 1 on a 3. bet 2,3,5,6.
No 1 on a 4. bet 2,3,4,6.
No 1 on a 5. bet 2,4,5.
No 1 on a 6. bet 3,4,5,6.

No 2 on a 1. bet 1,4,5,6.
No 2 on a 2. bet 1,5,6.
No 2 on a 3. bet 3,4,6.
No 2 on a 4. bet 1,3,4,5.
No 2 on a 5. bet 3,5,6.
No 2 on a 6. bet 1,3,4,6.

No 3 on a 1. bet 1,2,6.
No 3 on a 2. bet 1,2,6.
No 3 on a 3. bet 1,2,4,5.
No 3 on a 4. bet 4,5,6.
No 3 on a 5. bet 4,5,6.
No 3 on a 6. bet 1,2,4,5,6.

No 4 on a 1. bet 1,2,6.
No 4 on a 2. bet 2,3,5.
No 4 on a 3. bet 3,5,6.
No 4 on a 4. bet 1,3,6.
No 4 on a 5. bet 1,2,5.
No 4 on a 6. bet 1,2,3,5,6.

No 5 on a 1. bet 1,2,3.
No 5 on a 2. bet 2,3,4.
No 5 on a 3. bet 1,3,4,6.
No 5 on a 4. bet 1,2,4,6.
No 5 on a 5. bet 1,3,6.
No 5 on a 6. bet 2,3,4,6.

Title: Re: A new idea
Post by: flukey luke on Jun 20, 06:20 PM 2012
Now I can go back to the example and show you how it all ties in and how to work out what bets to place.

example.....

1
1
5
4
6 (2,3) = 1. (2,6)
3 (1,2) = 1. (3)
4 (1,2) = 2. (1,4)
6 (1,2) = 3. (2,6)
3 (1,2) = 4. (3)
2 (1,5) = 1. (2,4,5)
3 (1,5) = 2. (1,2,3)
5 (1,4) = 1. (2,5)
5 (1,4) = 2. (5,6)
2 (1,4) = 3. (2,3,5)
6 (1,4) = 4. (4,5,6)
5 (1,4) = 5. (2,5)
2 (1,4) = 6. (2,3,5)
3 (1,4) = 7. (1,2,3)
1 (4,6) = 1. (1,2,4)
6 (4,5) = 1. (1,5,6)
2 (4,5) = 2. (1,2)
4 (3,5) = 1. (2,3,4)

The furthest two lines back to start with are the 2 and 3. The 3 then appears and the new two furthest back lines are now the 1 and 2. So you can say that the 2 is the strongest of the two furthest back. So my bet will be for the 2 to still be in the two furthest back after the next spin.

So how do I work out the bet?

Well the actual line that has just appeared is the 3. So I go to the betting chart and look for 'no 2 on a 3'. This informs me that I need to bet on lines 3, 4 and 6.

The next line to come out is the 4. Here it is...

1
1
5
4
6 (2,3) = 1. (2,6)
3 (1,2) = 1. (3)
4 (1,2) = 2. (1,4) WIN.

It won because as you can see the 2 is still in the furthest two back.


I will continue with the rest of the example tomorrow.

Title: Re: A new idea
Post by: flukey luke on Jun 20, 07:14 PM 2012
I will also explain how you can use the information to decide when to bet and when not to bet.

Some people may wonder are all the marking + charts necessary? I look at it has having more information at my disposal. You need to get 'under the bonnet' of the game and try and see what's going on. Variance is probably the biggest killer to the bankroll. I find you can keep it at bay as long as you are able to make what I would call 'intelligent' decisions along the way.
Failure to do that means you might as well be pumping your money in the slots because you are then just out and out gambling.
Title: Re: A new idea
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Jun 20, 07:41 PM 2012
Interesting concept and new as u said...
I understood some things but i need to read again and also read the next posts.
thanks for the efforts in writing so many posts to explain.

""I find you can keep it at bay as long as you are able to make what I would call 'intelligent' decisions along the way.""

I agree and let s hope that ur idea can deal with the variance
Title: Re: A new idea
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Jun 21, 10:58 AM 2012
I can t understand what this CHART represents.
And how u chose the lines in the ()
Title: Re: A new idea
Post by: flukey luke on Jun 21, 11:50 AM 2012
Hello M_O_P.

I did some extensive testing on this earlier today and unfortunately it failed pretty rotten.  :(

The mistake I made was in thinking I could connect two seperate concepts and merge them together. They really have no relation to each other whatsoever.

Sometimes I think I should know better. My enthusiasm tends to get me carried away and prevents me looking at things in a more logical manner.

I will say sorry to anybody that spent some time looking into it. Better to abandon it now and not waste any more time on it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: A new idea
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Jun 21, 11:58 AM 2012
""""Sometimes I think I should know better. My enthusiasm tends to get me carried away and prevents me looking at things in a more logical manner."""

It s happening to most of us.