An idea came to me that is based on the streets with a positive progression.
In order to lose a realistic BR something really really rare must happen.
Even if this really really rare thing will happen , I think it will be able to come in a new overall profit with a second BR.
Its a very easy and playable system that can be played in a land-based Casino(I am intrested only for those systems)
No waiting ,no triggers no voodoo no nothing. Just maths-probability. It is played on every spin and a session ends when we are in a new profit.
In a very early test of 246 spins(betting on every spin) showed that with a BR of just 120 chips(max down) it won +503 chips. The longest spins for recovery was 18 spins!
I really know from the structure of the system that in order to lose a BR of lets say 300 chips something very odd must happen...in fact i don't know in this thing can happen at all if we are playing with a BR of 500 chips!
I will continue the testing and I will be posting the graphs here.
here is the graph
517 spins total.
Profit +860 chips
max down -320 chips
max spins for recovery 25 spins!
A Br can and will be lost in some phaze.
The point is to test this system and decide from the results , what the BR(stop loss) will be for the best.
And of cource the most importand thing is IF it can recover the lost Brs.
Its very profitable and I guess it can recover very fast when a BR will be lost in some visits.
By adding a trigger(certain event) in the system it will become a lot safer (in theory).
But this will require patience....
Anyway If it will lose I will add the trigger in the system play.
sounds to good to be true--good luck
thanks Tomla.
A good fluctuation can always trick us from an early testing.
its the stracture of the system that gives me hopes...
Time will tell.
I was thinking to post the system rules with the trigger.
But posting a system is for the members to help in testing and all to see if its a winner or a loser.
If winner go and make money , if loser abandon the system and go for a new one.
Here nobody tests...so what's the point in posting it?
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 02, 09:58 PM 2012
An idea came to me that is based on the streets with a positive progression.
In order to lose a realistic BR something really really rare must happen.
Even if this really really rare thing will happen , I think it will be able to come in a new overall profit with a second BR.
Its a very easy and playable system that can be played in a land-based Casino(I am intrested only for those systems)
No waiting ,no triggers no voodoo no nothing. Just maths-probability. It is played on every spin and a session ends when we are in a new profit.
In a very early test of 246 spins(betting on every spin) showed that with a BR of just 120 chips(max down) it won +503 chips. The longest spins for recovery was 18 spins!
I really know from the structure of the system that in order to lose a BR of lets say 300 chips something very odd must happen...in fact i don't know in this thing can happen at all if we are playing with a BR of 500 chips!
I will continue the testing and I will be posting the graphs here.
here is the graph
Hola MOP
A positive progression with streets huh? That can get u in a hole pretty quickly.
But i like yr bold approach. I'd rather try 2 win a lot with sufficient BR than grind my way
2 profit. U know what happens most time with grinding systems. U play 4 low daily win target but still u need relatively substantial stop loss 2 generate some profit especially with EC's,or 1/3 chances. Once in a while u hit it. Ok u did not lose much but yr wins r also small. Playing inside lets u make profit faster n spend less time playing which is always good.
Continue testing but i guess inevitable will happen sooner but i guess u know that. ;D
Regards
"""A positive progression with streets huh? That can get u in a hole pretty quickly. """
Sure and this is why the trigger and the stop loss must be added.
""I'd rather try 2 win a lot with sufficient BR than grind my way """
yes this applies to a lot of systems but not on this one.
"""U play 4 low daily win target but still u need relatively substantial stop-loss 2 generate some profit"""
No winning targets if a system is a winner it doesn t need targets....only stop loss in order for the progression NOT to reach a very high level.
"""Ok u did not lose much but yr wins r also small"""
the Profit of +860 in 517 spins is not consider as a small win. Its 1.66 chips per spin
"""Playing inside lets u make profit faster n spend less time playing which is always good. """
Playing inside needs a X3 Br .
Making faster profit and spending less time isn t sure .... its all about the flucuation we will face in every session.
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 02, 10:46 PM 2012
I was thinking to post the system rules with the trigger.
But posting a system is for the members to help in testing and all to see if its a winner or a loser.
If winner go and make money , if loser abandon the system and go for a new one.
Here nobody tests...so what's the point in posting it?
Hola MOP
F u have no intentions of posting d rules better not post at all. And we can not test if there r no rules. :D
I enjoy testing but its by hand---slow and I can be sidetracked.....:)
In baccarat the only guys I know that really win long term either use elaborate heavy unit neg progressions such as star etc.......but quietly I hear that some long term winners quietly use positive progressions
MOP,
I just don't understand this method of posting.
If you don't need, want or expect help testing from the forum, then don't start the topic until you've tested it thoroughly and have decided it's really the Holy Grail or not.
Then if you want to share it with us, share it.
If you're not going to share it with us, why even mention it?
Frustrated in Arizona,
GLC
Quote from: GLC on Jul 03, 12:36 AM 2012
MOP,
I just don't understand this method of posting.
If you don't need, want or expect help testing from the forum, then don't start the topic until you've tested it thoroughly and have decided it's really the Holy Grail or not.
Then if you want to share it with us, share it.
If you're not going to share it with us, why even mention it?
Frustrated in Arizona,
GLC
---George mate,You have said all...except Headline.
I'd like to quote a famous French scientist that studied a lot about roulette systems.
"" Tell me in detail your roulette system.When I've well understood it,I'm able to write down a list of numbers that correspond to the outcomes that make you lose.
Sooner or later these outcomes will be generated by the roulette itself and your system will fail"
The sole people, that I know for sure they win at roulette(not for making their living!),play with a small bkr(IN UNITS!),enter a land based Casino 200 times per year and play not more than 2000 spins per year(European roulette of course)
This is the only way for not to be killed by Zero Tax(VIG).
They have found also the solution for fighting against big negative deviations,solution based oon Marigny theories.
Often they must stay inside a Casino 4 hours or more!
Quote from: beretta28 on Jul 03, 04:03 AM 2012
I'd like to quote a famous French scientist that studied a lot about roulette systems.
"" Tell me in detail your roulette system.When I've well understood it,I'm able to write down a list of numbers that correspond to the outcomes that make you lose.
Sooner or later these outcomes will be generated by the roulette itself and your system will fail"
The sole people, that I know for sure they win at roulette(not for making their living!),play with a small bkr(IN UNITS!),enter a land-based Casino 200 times per year and play not more than 1500 spins per year(European roulette of course)
This is the only way for not to be killed by Zero Tax(VIG).
They have found also the solution for fighting against big negative deviations,solution based oon Marigny theories.
Often they must stay inside a Casino 4 hours or more!
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 02, 10:46 PM 2012
I was thinking to post the system rules with the trigger.
But posting a system is for the members to help in testing and all to see if its a winner or a loser.
If winner go and make money , if loser abandon the system and go :thumbsup: for a new one.
Here nobody tests...so what's the point in posting it?
MOP....what i read from your post is that you are looking for some kudos from certain people in here but because of you being critical of those said people, you are scared to post a system that may be criticised by them so you are playing some silly cloak and dagger malarky. Stop being so cagey and post the soddin system
Hello GLC
Did I mention that I am not going to share the system with you?
I just said that in this forum none has the mood of testing or posting their testing results as a contribution to the thread starter.
If You have noticed , when I see a new system posted I am taking the time and test a sample and post the results.
So there is no point to post the system right now that it s in the stage of testing....
Most of the guys in here want everything complete and ready. No mood for helping...this is happening in almost any thread with a system.
So this is what I m doing.... I am testing it and if its a winner I will post the rules...So there you go! A ready system will be in your hands for use.
Beretta my friend I know what u mean and You are right...but if we have the this mood , then we should all leave the forum and stop researching roulette.
You and me and everybody in here have a hope that a system will be found 1 day and all the lost years of research will not be wasted....
MOP ,I agree with you.
I think that we have to find out a system that lose only in case of a very rare or exceptional session
It's true that the pattern that make you lose exists,but you must see it with a probability of 0,001%.
In this case in you life of gambler it's possible that you'll never see it.
This is my experience.
That's why a system with % of success of 99,99% is not enough,,,,,,,
A Marty of twelwe terms(the max you can play in a land based casino,playing High/low with huge bkr) has 99,97% of winning at European roulette and it it lose in a NOT so long term!
GLC is correct... you are already assuming no one will test, and you don't even provide the system to test... That seems to me like a self-fulfilling prophecy...
Anyway, if a system is relativly simple, I'm usually able to test it using excel with some spins (I use at least 100.000 randomly picked from one of the files available here in the forum to download). I have no problem sharing the results, have done it in the past, will do it again if there is interest in that.
I think a lot of people here besides me, are more then willing to test your system... if you want to share it.
Can someone please wash out the Amateurs that does everything wrong from this Forum?
/M
And the Holy Grail is.....
. :wink:
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 02, 10:46 PM 2012
I was thinking to post the system rules with the trigger.
But posting a system is for the members to help in testing and all to see if its a winner or a loser.
If winner go and make money , if loser abandon the system and go for a new one.
Here nobody tests...so what's the point in posting it?
I would be glad to help and make a serious test.
:thumbsup: