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Title: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: ego on Jul 25, 03:05 PM 2012

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The 1 â€" 3 â€" 2 â€" 6 System
For even-money betting at Craps, Roulette and Baccarat
System betting means you’re using a specific strategy in trying to be a winner. However, in the long-run, the odds favor the casino and no system can change that fact. That is not to say systems can’t work beautifully in the short term.
What makes the 1 â€" 3 â€" 2 â€" 6 System attractive is that you risk only two betting units for a chance to win ten units. You can make a nice profit with a minimal investment.
The first bet is one unit, if you win, add another unit, making the second bet a total of three units. If you win the second bet, your profit is 4 units and there are 6 units on the table. Remove your four unit profit, making your third bet two units. Now you have 4 units on the table.  Add two more units, making your bet a total of six units for your fourth bet.  If the fourth bet wins you�ll collect a total of 12 units profit.
If you lose the first bet, the loss is one unit. Assuming you win the first, but lose the second bet, your net loss is two units. If you win the second, but lose the third bet, you have a profit of two units. If you win the first three bets but lose the fourth bet, you'll break even.
If you lose the second bet five out of six times and win four consecutive bets once, you’ll be right back to even. Use this system for even-money betting at any game.

Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: ego on Jul 25, 03:10 PM 2012

I don't understand this algorithm.

If i win first then i am +1 and bet 3.
If i lose then i bet 2 and if i win i break even.

Do i restart the algorithm - the point is to strike 4 in a row.

If i bet 1 and lose i bet 3 and win.
Then i bet 2 and lose i break even.

So if i win once in two i win or break even with the chance to strike 4 in a row.

Well now it become so complicated so i don't understand my self.
That is why i woundering if you understand the process using this algorithm.

Cheers


Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: malcop on Jul 25, 03:25 PM 2012
Quote from: ego on Jul 25, 03:10 PM 2012
I don't understand this algorithm.

If i win first then i am +1 and bet 3.
If i lose then i bet 2 and if i win i break even.

Do i restart the algorithm - the point is to strike 4 in a row.

If i bet 1 and lose i bet 3 and win.
Then i bet 2 and lose i break even.

So if i win once in two i win or break even with the chance to strike 4 in a row.

Well now it become so complicated so i don't understand my self.
That is why i woundering if you understand the process using this algorithm.

Cheers
Hi Ego,

From what I understand about the 1-3-2-6 progression you start the progression back at 1 unit if you lose on your 1, 3, 2 or 6 level.

W1 +1
L3 -2

W1 = +1
W3 = +4
L2 =  +2

W1 = +1
W3 = +4
W2 = +6
L6  =   0

W1 = +1
W3 = +4
W2 = +6
L6  =  +6

Total profit +12 if yo win four bets in a row.

So you se you only really down -2 if you lose the 3 unit bet, and break even if you lose the 6 unit bet, and if you win the 6 unit bet you are up +12 units.

This is purley a up as you win progression.

But the thing to remember is if you lose, you start the progression again at 1 unit.

I have used this a lot over the years playing Baccarat.

I hope this helps.

malcop
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: GLC on Jul 25, 04:07 PM 2012
Nice explanation Malcop.

I developed the 1 2 3 5 progression off the 1 3 2 6 idea.

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9862.0 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9862.0)

With the 1 2 3 5 progression if you win the 1 unit bet, you have 2 units on the table.

Leave the 2 units for the next bet and if you win you have 4 units on the table.

Take your original unit back and bet 3 units for the 3rd bet.  If you win you have 6 units on the table.

Take back 1 unit and if you lose the 5 unit bet, you're still up 1 unit.  And if you win the 5 unit bet, you are up 11 units.

So, if you lose the 1st bet you are -1.
If win the 1st bet and lose the 2nd bet you are -1.
If you win the 1st and 2nd bets and lose the 3rd bet, you break even.
If you win the 1st 3 bets and lose the 4th bet, you win 1 units.

You either lose 1 unit,  break even, win 1 unit or win 11 units.


Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: malcop on Jul 25, 04:23 PM 2012
GLC your 1-2-3-5 progresion is much better than 1-3-2-6  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: VLS on Jul 25, 11:02 PM 2012
Quote from: GLC on Jul 25, 04:07 PM 2012
You either lose 1 unit,  break even, win 1 unit or win 11 units.

Beautiful. Plain beautiful staking plan dear George.

Perhaps a bit of rising on the starting unit at conscious intervals and you can make it as appealing as Mr. Clooney to People Magazine!
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 19, 11:07 AM 2014
has this staking plan been forgotten
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: Tamino on Sep 19, 12:20 PM 2014
The  COMPROMISE.

Bet 1 unit  and lose. Bet 2 units and lose  bet 2  units and win. You are only down by 1  unit .   

This is a 3 step operation. Don`t   attempt to recover  lost units. That`s  what  the casinos wants you to do.

A loss sequence of 1-2-3-5 is  not my cup of tea.

It is not how much you win but how little   you lose. Tomorrow is another day.Unless you love to tell TALL Fish stories  .They cost  you money HAHAHA





Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: Turner on Sep 19, 02:48 PM 2014
I like 1 2 2 and 2 1 on a win
How about 2 4 4 for 1st bet loss....but 2 1 if you win the first bet

The 2 1 on a win can be golden progression of 2 1 2 3 5 or 2 1 2 3 (I prefer)
Just a thought.
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: Tamino on Sep 19, 04:16 PM 2014
With  table  pf $ 10   and $ 25 it`s no longer   a  camouflage  behind 1   or  2 units but a stark reality   for    the  recreational player.

Bankroll   requirements ( $25 table Min) $1,000  per  ONE session. Plans  should be made for 3  sessions (  $ 3,000) with an attempt to win 2 out of 3 sessions.  Better to be invested on Wall Street.

With those  rising table min   even seasoned players  are of a different mindset than commonly expected from them.


Tamino



Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: Turner on Sep 19, 05:28 PM 2014
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 19, 04:16 PM 2014
With  table  pf $ 10   and $ 25 it`s no longer   a  camouflage  behind 1   or  2 units but a stark reality   for    the  recreational player.

Bankroll   requirements ( $25 table Min) $1,000  per  ONE session. Plans  should be made for 3  sessions (  $ 3,000) with an attempt to win 2 out of 3 sessions.  Better to be invested on Wall Street.

With those  rising table min   even seasoned players  are of a different mindset than commonly expected from them.


Tamino

Shame...still 50p min bet inside and £5 EC in UK. No "higher at weekend" malarkey.

But....I will say one thing from my observations.

I have yet to see anyone track anything, check the marque or use any MM, SL.....anything.

Just endless swathes of Asian taxi drivers and Chinese making scale models of New York with their chips on the beize

I did used to see one guy walk around the tables playing 2 Doz and a Quad from the unbet Doz. He kinda looked like he had some kind of plan in mind....I couldnt work out what.

So with that in mind, no need to raise table mins.

Actually, I always feel a bit silly sat looking at the marque with a pen and paper. Im the only one
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: Tamino on Sep 19, 06:01 PM 2014
Quote:Actually, I always feel a bit silly sat looking at the marque with a pen and paper. Im the only one******


Don`t feel that way. PLAN your play  and PLAY  your plan. This  in stark contrast to those Asian/ Chinese who play  for LUCK.

Tamno
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: ausguy on Sep 19, 10:44 PM 2014
Turner - Scale models of New York is most apt for many B & M casino roulette players. Uneven "weighting" of bets is hard to fathom that many players place ? Many players follow one another with the bets they place, thus some layout numbers, in total, stacked high & others have nil bets at all. How often do you see the ball land on an unbet or low chip bet number & thus the casino "cleans up" again.

Typically I constantly see things like (in $5 chips = inside min.) 26B $20, 29B/32R split $5, 31B/36R 6 line $5, 0,1R,2B,3R cnr $5, 4B/7R split $5, 10B/14R cnr $5, 18R $5, 8B $10, 16R $5, 17B $5, $20 2nd doz, $20 3rd doz. The wheel spins & say 7R drops then the payout is 17 chips ($85 + the $5 bet returned). All the other bets are losers & taken by the casino = $105 - $85 =  -$20  net loss. Too many of the bets, if any win, DON"T cover the total outlays of the other bets ?

For these players it's generally 3 steps back & 2 forward & sooner rather than later their BR is gone & home they do go, usually to return another day to do it all the same again ?

Gamblers INSANITY is worth repeating here = BETTING THE SAME WAY EVERY SESSION BUT EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT THAN THE OTHER LOSING ONES ?
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: JimmieB on Sep 20, 06:39 AM 2014
@Turner, Tamino, Ausguy

Lol at your comments - out last night in Glasgow for a friend's stag do & went to the casinos for a bit in the early hours it's only the second time I've been to a b&m casino since being on the forum and there I was sitting with my pen, paper and my calculator on my phone and you do get some funny looks!!

The amount of chip stacking going around me was unbelievable, I thought how do these guys know how much they have won, if anything, I guess they know how much they lose though!!!
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: ddarko on Sep 20, 07:54 AM 2014
Quote from: JimmieB on Sep 20, 06:39 AM 2014
I was sitting with my pen, paper and my calculator on my phone and you do get some funny looks!!

You had no problem using your your phone at the table JimmieB ?

O0
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: JimmieB on Sep 20, 08:28 AM 2014
Funnily enough no, I thought I might, I was only using it occasionally the rest of the time it was in my pocket, maybe that's why I got away with it....
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: ausguy on Sep 20, 08:48 AM 2014
JB - Why weren't you & your friends out throwing fire bombs in protest at Scotlands No independence vote loss ?

Funny looks ? You only notice if you're looking at them looking at you. A negative, as it somewhat takes away your much needed betting focus ?

How did your casino betting go ? Did you leave the joint in profit or loss ?
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: JimmieB on Sep 20, 09:18 AM 2014
Didn't realise there had been any trouble until I read about this morning - it appears as though it was the people who got what they wanted were still wanting to cause trouble....only in the west coast of Scotland would this happen....

The funny looks were from the other players not the croupiers, a couple were quite interested :)

I played double dozens and lost my allocated BR for that game  :( then played ECs and manged to win back lost my lost BR called it quits after that. It's completely different playing at a b&m casino to live online, it's quite daunting at first, although very enjoyable.
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: Tamino on Sep 20, 09:29 AM 2014
Quote from: JimmieB on Sep 20, 06:39 AM 2014
@Turner, Tamino, Ausguy

Lol at your comments - out last night in Glasgow for a friend's stag do & went to the casinos for a bit in the early hours it's only the second time I've been to a b&m casino since being on the forum and there I was sitting with my pen, paper and my calculator on my phone and you do get some funny looks!!

The amount of chip stacking going around me was unbelievable, I thought how do these guys know how much they have won, if anything, I guess they know how much they lose though!!!


.Those  cats  don`t know their losses but they will tell you  they KNOW HOW to GAMBLE. 
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 20, 05:36 PM 2014
but Jimmie did you use the GLC staking plan.
I dont like betting on outside,but this plan looks usable.
Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: Tamino on Sep 20, 07:34 PM 2014
Turner,

I am hoping that those  Asian Taxi drivers are taking a bath. In Los Angeles  99 %  of Asian taxi drivers  don`t pass the  required  smell test before   being  let loose on the unsuspecting public.

For Chinese  taxi drivers the   stink factor is  at 90 %

Even their union  is  now involved.  Either they take a bath or they stink and that`s it. What negotiations???











Title: Re: GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...
Post by: JimmieB on Sep 21, 03:34 AM 2014
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 20, 05:36 PM 2014
but Jimmie did you use the GLC staking plan.
I dont like betting on outside,but this plan looks usable.

Hey NTP

I only commented on the thread after reading about the chip stacking, and witnessing this on my night out :) I used the divisor staking plan for my games.

PS good result for your team yesterday ;)