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Same here, interested, thank you.

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Ego, why do you prefer football tipsters over horse tipsters? I mean there are well known horse tipping agencies as well independent tipsters with better ROI than their football counterpants in general.
Also i  had a quick glance at marketbeaters website and  their subscription plans (350 € for  2 months tips) seemed to me ridiculous overpriced. At same price you hire a top horse tipster for a whole year. How you are under the impression they have so much value to consider them as an investment, unless you know something we dont about them.

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 24, 06:20 AM 2019 »
I have been searching and found the original gr8 players post mentioned by GLC here https://betselection.cc/profile/gr8player/?area=showposts;start=75.
There are some hints i want to point out after reading carefully this post about his 7 step progression:
a) We pick up randomly any 7 spins to build up our 1st level ("1-villle"). Dont need to look for a new high within  it, cause this will make things unecessarily complicated. We sit at this level either on a plus or 1 unit minus at most (4-3 loss series, we move onto next level only when  -3 ,-5 or -7 occur ). IMPORTANT: We do the same with anyone stepping level eg. if we finish level 2 and we are -2 units behind (in total with level1) we stay at level 2, if we finish level 3 with -3 in total we stay also at level 3 and so on. On the contrary  if we are behind -3 units or more after we have finished level 2 we move up to level 3, at level 3  when behind -4 or more move up level 4 etc.
b) Always we seek to return to level 1, in order to keep progression as lower as possible. At this point comes the debatable part, unfortunately not cleared from gr8 player: Assuming we start level 2 with +2 units after -3 loss on level1, hence we are -1. What do we do here?  We return to level 1? (in this case -1loss must be considered the first spin in a series of a new "1-villle", so we have to track for  another 6 spins to complete it. Or we continue on level 2 until a total plus (or minus over -1units)? First choice is more safe but also more complicated than second. Why? If we start level 3 with +3 after -5 loss from previous level we are 2 units down, so we have to step back to level 2 and start over tracking for another 6 spins of 2 units and so on. However if  we start level 3 with +3 after -4 loss from previous level we are 1 unit down, therefore we have to step back to level1and start over tracking for another 6 spins of 1 unit this time. Picking to go with the second choice instead, we just seek for a plus in total to step back (not as many forths and backs), but progression may escalate a little more larger. Feel free to comment.

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 23, 12:15 PM 2019 »
Yes , right, just now your approach flashed into my mind! :thumbsup:
So you propose a slight modification to GLCs only for level1. IF we reach +1plus within 1st level we track the level back from the start and we do it until conscecutive loses  lead us to step up.Clever!

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 23, 11:06 AM 2019 »
  We say same thing Atlantis, I just make the addition separately for each level.You add the total sum. ;)

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 23, 10:37 AM 2019 »
-1; 1  = +0 level so restart level 1
1        =+1 new high so restart level 1
-1; -1; -1; -1; 1; -1; -1  = -4  in minus so up to 2u
Correct, but according GLC we havent to think for a level within a level, so we just track for at least -1 1st level  total to move up to next level.
-2; 2; 2; -2; 2; -2; -2 ?   
3; -3; -3; -3; 3; 3; 3.?   Those are different from my example.
Anyway i write what i think should be right according this old post:
LEVEL 1:  −1, 1, 1,−1, −1,−1.−1        −3 up next LEVEL
LEVEL 2:  2, −2, −2, −2, 2, 2, −2       −2 up next LEVEL
LEVEL 3:  3 (return to level 2 since we are +1plus, GLC is clear at this point,  meaning that in any stage of a level we are +1plus we have to go back to previous level)
LEVEL 2:−2,−2, 2,−2,−2,−2, 2 (instead of 4 from my example) −6 up next LEVEL
LEVEL 3: +3,+3 (if  next +3 again we have to go back at LEVEL 1 though, we always seek to return at "ville"1).
Note that is different approach  from cyclic 5 progression
11111
22222
33333
44444
55555
where always have to complete all 5 stages of a level.

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 23, 05:23 AM 2019 »
I google it but i couldnt find it, where is it Letmewin?

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 23, 04:59 AM 2019 »
Regarding Gr8 players prog:
LEVEL 1:  −1, 1, 1,−1, −1,−1.−1        −3 up next LEVEL
LEVEL 2:  2, −2, −2, −2, 2, 2, −2       −2 up next LEVEL
LEVEL 3:  3, −3. −3, 3.−3,−3,−3       −9  up next LEVEL what we do here? Go back to LEVEL 2 or continue?
LEVEL 4:  4, 4. 4 what we do here? Go back 2  LEVELS (start from  LEVEL2)? Or 1 back, start from LEVEL 3?

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 19, 05:42 AM 2019 »
If i had to choose amongst all these quality systems posted in this topic, i will go for just two:
a)   Atlantis  xxxxxx+xx  approach (bet opposite from two previous same triplets).
b)   jono' s  xxx+xxx approach (waiting for  the 1st leg of a triplet  start repeating itself once, then bet  for the 2nd triplet the dominant ECs from the previous one.
In both approaches i would go  for just TWO bets.
Tracking for a new pattern would be right UPON (not after) either a real win or a virtual one (in case we had to stop due to a losing string).
Optimal progression is still questionable for both approaches.
Jono dont disregard Labby yet. You may find an interesting  modification here  https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14305.msg121536#msg121536 to adapt it, as an alternative to Dalembert from your previous post.
Cheers

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 18, 04:50 PM 2019 »
I think it would be very handy is someone on board could program for us a simple excel tracker (or even in rx) highlighted Atlantis idea of 2 same triplets appearance in rolling basis ( next tracking string of two triplets must be right after the previous one breaks ). Something like this for all ECs :
   
SPINS    H/L                  O/E                                    R/B
24            H                      E                                         B
33            H      2              O       1                               B          2
22            H                      E                                         B
19            H      2             O       1                               R           1
36            H                      E                                         R
17            L       1             O       1                               B           1
15            L                       O                                        B           
7              L        2             O       2                              R           1   
21            H                      O                                        R           
27            H        2            O        2                             R           2
5              L                       O                                        R             
19            H        1             O        2                            R           2
23            H                      O                                        R             
27            H       2             O        2                             R           2
5              L                       O                                        R           
29            H      1              O        2                             B            1
14            L                       E                                        R           
21            H       1             O       1                              R            2   
36            H                      E                                        R             
35            H       2             O        1                            B             1 
21            H                      O                                       R             
10            L        1             E         1                            B             1
5              L                       O                                       R             
36            H        1            E         1                            R             2
35            H                      O                                       B               
21           H        2            O         2                            R             1           
27            H                      O                                       R           
11            L        1            O         2                             B            1
22           H                        E                                       B             
34           H        2              E         2                           R              1   
24           H                        E                                       B             
32           H         2             E         2                           R             1
16           L                         E                                       R                   
34           H                    E         2                            R            2
36           H                        E                                       R             
33           H        2              O        1                            B           1
14           L                         E                                       R                 
10           L         2              E         2                            B           1
35           H                        O                                       B
1             L        1              O        2                             R           1     
28           H                        E                                       B           
27          H        2               O        1                            R           1
33           H                        O                                      B               
6             L         1              E        1                             B           2
   

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 15, 07:24 AM 2019 »
Hi Jono, very good job indeed but i have a few queries:
 a)  I can see that the bold trigger has always to match with 1st leg of previous triplet  but how you pick this base triplet in a session? You track always for the appearance of xxx+x to start betting?
 b) You stick  to 1-2 prog for 2 first bets, dont go for 2-4 on a loss  anymore?
 c) How exactly you play the mini lab (eg 1st blue triplet 111 minus, how you bet next blues, can you give a short example with few of them)?

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 13, 10:40 AM 2019 »
@Andre
Its not exactly as you have it in your mind. 1, 2 stands for a pair of ECs (e.g  1.1.1,1.1,1,1 stands for 7 alternate H/L in a row. How many times have you seen this pattern? Very rarely. Apart from this, we try avoid to play this system continuously, thats why we are talking for same pairs, same triplets, triggers, stoploss progs etc., to cope with variance and come ahead. This is more sophisticated than PB which is more exposed to randomness than this. I suggest you to re-read the whole thread and systems posted here and you will discover a lot of potential with ECs,  the easiest bet someone can make in roulette..

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 13, 08:45 AM 2019 »
In matrix 4 style, track vertically for dominants or non dominants after 3. Write down the horizontal  formation   of 4 dominants or 4 non dominants in a row anywhere in the matrix and bet opposite up to 3 times for the run to break. I used prog 1,1,2  ( a cyclic 111,222,333,.. may also  fit to this i guess..).
2 2 2 2
1 1 2 2
2 2 2 2
2 2 1 1
2 1 2 2
2 2 1 1    bet opp here, W
2 1 1 1
2 2 1 2
1 2 1 2
2 1 2 1
1 2 1 2    bet opp here, W
2 1 1 2
1 2 1 1
1 1 1 2
1 2 1 1
1 1 1 2
2 1 2 2
1 2 1 1
1 1 2 2
1 2 2 2
1 1 2 1
2 2 2 2
2 1 2 1
1 2 2 2
1 2 2 1
1 2 2 1
2 1 2 2     bet opp here, W
2 1 2 2
2 1 1 2
1 2 2 1
1 2 1
1     bet opp here, LLW
2 2 2 1   
I still cant determine  if the optimal trigger is after 4 or  3 runs for this approach ( 4 runs is safer but someone could also play after 3 for faster results).

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Testing zone / Re: Beating the even money
« on: Mar 11, 06:14 AM 2019 »
1,1,2, 2,2,1, 1,1,1,
1,1,1, 1,2,1, 2,1,1, Lw
2,1,2, 2,1,2, 2,2,1, Lw
Hi Atlantis, i like your idea, just for clarification please confirm that i have got it  right:   
HL,LH,LL, HH,LL,HL, LH,HL,HL
HL,LH,HL, HL,HH,LH, LL,HL,HL
LL,LH,HH, HH,LH,LL, HH,HH,LH.

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Bet selection / Re: Breakout System
« on: Nov 05, 10:10 AM 2018 »
Same system is sold on ebay  for approximately 80 euros, i think i had to wait a little more for Ignatus post before  i buy it a while ago :( :( :(. The only difference is that if eg. a high red and a low black (triggers ) appear, you pick your DS from  the most recent low red and high black  have been  hit  before your 2 triggers within same half . You dont wait as 3rd trigger the immediate hit of a number at opposite half in order to pick the first  DS you will exclude. Ignatus what would you say for this?

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