Quote from: Person S on Aug 25, 02:50 PM 2022Yes, I don't understand this curve, looking for details.... I.e. by taking cycle 37 we write how many repetitions were both unique and non-unique... Or do we need 2 parameters dormant and dropped out? And also such a question, averages and bell are the same?
Thx!

this on a 37 spin rolling basis gives the wave tracker..which ive posted..you will not get a bell curve with this..but a lot of crossings like winkels gut tracker.....

and tbh you are going off the topic of this thread...pretty sure there is a thread for winkels gut tracker....

to keep it on track and away from the 37 spin cycle...thats on my other thread...and crossing on winkels thread...

there are lots of stuff to think about cycle and cycle closures.....carpediem balance isn,t a pattern...or what most think balance should be...

but lets look at at one point he,s says ...different games...most like to play for a repeat..

he does say a repeat can be a game?...

how would this work? how could you play for a repeat....

it was mentioned on my thread why not play with repeats after 37 spins...

with this being rrbb thread we have to use the tools in front of us to do this....

so lets look ...lets take the 4 number groups..red odd red even..black odd black even...

lets combine a rolling 37 spins on ayks tracker and only click on the repeats tab to highlight repeats...

THEN let us only bet what group numbers and groups and their numbers that are out that are highlighted and repeated ...for the cycle closure....

does this give a better choice than random...does this limit the amount of units bet.. ...does this win flatbet overall...

does zero come into play if its repeated? 




does this need turbos progression...

i,m going on holiday in two days ...but just want everyone to stop veering off this topic and listen to what carpediem has said....

the streams tracker is only a part of the overall picture ...

think a little bit differently ..at least its a start rather than be stuck in the same rut...

can you start from spin 1? or from spin 37 and just keep going an a rolling basis...can you catch those hot repeats ? you just need to think in a different way and come up with ideas..thats all ..what else can you come up with?
could you stick to just unique? or unhit ?

or is there something else you could combine ? to play alongside your option? dyslexic certainly did...

Let's try not to deviate, and you mean something similar to the race analogy? Yes, the 4 groups will not go evenly, someone will definitely come to the finish line first, it will be +1 on 37 spins.
The choice of bets is better than random, it is already structured and conscious - what carpediem told us.

You can start with 1 back and 37, but I think that 37 is more convenient, because there is information, and if we put from the first back, what do we have? Only 1 number that came out and 36 options to choose - a very wide field for a single bet...Imho

I,m not deviating ..I,m keeping topic on course and throwing you ideas out...directly related to this thread...the horse race anology..you need to choose horses..this gives a basic choice..
What else gives you that?
Yes u may not choose the right horse at a particular spin on closure...
But it's better choice than guessing ..

The topic is about hits using the streams tracker to your advantage..

Not using it as it as it is....

That's clearly stated..I gave this example to maybe open your mind to this fact..

6Th so on this example i started from #3 for a six-line bet and a hit on #4...

I did not understand part of the explanation, at the end of 37 we will have groups that have more repetitions than the laggards, there may be groups with an equal number of repetitions. Do we need some kind of filter to select the leaders? Or do we stick to all 4 groups no matter who is where?

And we are not trying to play on 1 spin. Here was a test so far unsuccessful 111 spins, did not choose a group - bet flat. In principle it is possible to fix the maximum, but I decided to see what will happen next.

Quote from: Person S on Aug 26, 04:47 PM 2022at the end of 37 (spins) we will have groups that have more repetitions than the laggards

Let's make a Gedankenexperiment (thought experiment):

You have a result at the end of every
37 spins = Count(Unhits) + Count(1 Hits) + Count(Repeats without the first hit)

Important: Count(Repeats without the first hit): the first hit of the number is not counted

Now you take one of the repeats and put it to an unhit position, and again, until all unhit positions are filled with one ball.  => no repeats are left over, only single 37 single hit

Important: you start with 37 - you end with 37, the number stays constant

The other way round: the repeats can only come from the number of unhits - always !

I really can´t see what you are looking for!

Do you look for a constant trigger, an indicator or signal?

What shall it do?

Herbie I agree with you, for example you can imagine that the roulette is evenly distributed every 37 spins fall out all 37 numbers, in this order on 74 spin all 37 will return to their original position.
What Herbie says. This is similar to what RRBB presented as an example process, so we will have not 3 but 2 states for the drop-down numbers. Heath and Anhit. This is probably a mathematical trick and we will have a problem if we try to pick up the bet. I think proper development in the system should be based on reps and averages. Repeaters are always there, and 100% happen, although not 100% predictable, but if we learn how to improve accuracy, the system will obviously be better.

I think we're looking for a signal that sounds like "hey we see an entry point it's time to start betting".
Although the signal, the trigger, and the indicator all seem to be one thing.

Quote from: Person S on Aug 27, 07:41 AM 2022I think we're looking for a signal that sounds like "hey we see an entry point it's time to start betting".
Although the signal, the trigger, and the indicator all seem to be one thing.

According to reddwarf (emphasis mine):

Quote from: reddwarf on Feb 11, 06:24 AM 2012I can and will not speak for the others, but i can tell you what way3 is NOT:
1. waiting for an event you need to win
2. guessing or predicting numbers
3. progression
4. waiting for a trigger

He probably meant the primitive systems that wait for 9 reds to start betting on black.