Was asked to give it a whirl.  Not here to spout anything, just testing (this is the testing zone right?)

I am testing the PB (Pattern Breaker) - original idea, in which after eliminating 7 of the 8 possible combinations, we then bet that the next pattern won't be the eight.   I am using a 2,4,8 progression as indicated in the original thread. 

I am tracking all 3 even chances (H/L, E/O, R/B) as this is how I would play it should I ever do so.  The bets are few and far between and therefore playing all 3 at once does speed it up a little (not much though).

Test 1 results
Spins: 350
End BR: -4 units
Total Bets made:  22 (8 on H/L, 8 on R/B, 6 on E/O)
Bets won: 19
Bets lost: 3 (all 3 loses were on H/L and 2 of them included a Zero)

Using a 1,3,7 progression would have ended in -1 unit.

Initial thoughts,
As I mentioned earlier in a JL post, this method appears to simply delay the wins and losses.  If my math is right (which I doubt) there are 8 possible patterns and 7 of those will give us a win, but the last will give us a loss.  We win 2 units each win, and lose -14 units each loss.  which if we win 7/8 would make us break even.  Of course I'm not including that pesky Zero which comes into play and causes our overall BR to dwindle.  Funny that my first test gave me almost exactly these results...

Anyways, I'll keep testing.  By no means do I think that 350 spins is definative. 

Just food for thought.

MM

MM

Thanks for the testing. 

I know that's work!!

Sam

Quote from: mattymattz on Jun 21, 02:22 PM 2012
Was asked to give it a whirl.  Not here to spout anything, just testing (this is the testing zone right?)

I am testing the PB (Pattern Breaker) - original idea, in which after eliminating 7 of the 8 possible combinations, we then bet that the next pattern won't be the eight.   I am using a 2,4,8 progression as indicated in the original thread. 

I am tracking all 3 even chances (H/L, E/O, R/B) as this is how I would play it should I ever do so.  The bets are few and far between and therefore playing all 3 at once does speed it up a little (not much though).

Test 1 results
Spins: 350
End BR: -4 units
Total Bets made:  22 (8 on H/L, 8 on R/B, 6 on E/O)
Bets won: 19
Bets lost: 3 (all 3 loses were on H/L and 2 of them included a Zero)

Using a 1,3,7 progression would have ended in -1 unit.

Initial thoughts,
As I mentioned earlier in a JL post, this method appears to simply delay the wins and losses.  If my math is right (which I doubt) there are 8 possible patterns and 7 of those will give us a win, but the last will give us a loss.  We win 2 units each win, and lose -14 units each loss.  which if we win 7/8 would make us break even.  Of course I'm not including that pesky Zero which comes into play and causes our overall BR to dwindle.  Funny that my first test gave me almost exactly these results...

Anyways, I'll keep testing.  By no means do I think that 350 spins is definative. 

Just food for thought.

MM

Hello MM

No need 4 further testing. D results will be dismissed by JL as not valid because u did not employ hit n run tactic. Playing continuously it will hover around 7/1 in d long run but its of course possible 2 have better strike rate initially. But that can be said of any EC method betting 1,2,4 against any pattern or matrix.

Regards

Reminds me of the Kenny Rogers song

"You got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em."

That doesn't say anything except you should know.  Not how to know.

Hit and run says you should, but not how you should.  How do you know when to hit?  When to run?

You don't. 

Sam

To amk.........

Let me see if I summarize correctly.  If I write down the eight combinations for h/l and o/e in two columns and begin marking off each row as it appears, I will sooner or later be left with all eight marked out on one column and seven marked out on the other column.  I then bet against the last row forming.

Now, is that it?

amk, I would not accept your money or anyone's money to bet on such a system.  No offense.  I would never bet with another's money where I wouldn't bet with mine.  Even my wife's..........

That being said, I will test this system.

Would you be up for me using either the numbers posted for Ville.  They are 300 at a time.  Or is there a place now where I can download from Germany?

Bro, I just don't have time to sit in front of this box.

Oh, Hey!  I could use the number capture by Tiago2 and capture Dublin numbers while I walk the mongrels.

Let me know what is acceptable.

Sam

TwoCat,

You make your two columns of H/L and O/E.

You check them of as they come in.

When one column has seven marked off and all that is left is the eighth you start paying close attention. If the eighth pattern now appears directly in the next 3 spins it is considered a virtual loss.

Now you jump over to the other column and bet that the same thing won't happen here.

7 patterns appearing and then in the next three spins the eighth.


I saw this purely as a business venture TwoCat. Just like the stocks or any business we would like to get started. For a successful business we need capital and a manager.

Either way wish you the best and Cat you later

Quote from: amk on Jun 22, 03:56 PM 2012
TwoCat,

You make your two columns of H/L and O/E.

You check them of as they come in.

When one column has seven marked off and all that is left is the eighth you start paying close attention. If the eighth pattern now appears directly in the next 3 spins it is considered a virtual loss.

Now you jump over to the other column and bet that the same thing won't happen here.

7 patterns appearing and then in the next three spins the eighth.


I saw this purely as a business venture TwoCat. Just like the stocks or any business we would like to get started. For a successful business we need capital and a manager.

Either way wish you the best and Cat you later

amk,

playing this way - how often do you get a trigger?  I can imagine you'd have to wait a looong time just for one.

MM

Quote from: mattymattz on Jun 22, 04:03 PM 2012

amk,

playing this way - how often do you get a trigger?  I can imagine you'd have to wait a looong time just for one.

MM

The longer you can wait the more you will win Matty. AMKs idea is great. I don't personaly take that approach. Hit and run gives me an average 11/1 strikerate. Tracking High and low and Odd and Even . If the first to qualify loses. I treble stakes on the next. I have only 3 losses in nearly 400 games doing so. That is how you profit in roulette. Identifying something random can't do often and exploiting it with smart Money management.

The Pattern breaker concept is about to delver its ultimate power however. In a method to be called PATTERN 7. I believe its the best alround method that will ever be shown. I will first demonstrate it against Bayes RNG. Then when people realize I am serious. I will post it up. Its alround numbers are staggering. If 63 units can buy a 1000/1 strikerate plus. I don't care what anyone says. That's a grail. I have 3,840 plus results without a single loss. I've been playing it and the progression hasn't even been challenged once yet in over 200 games. But the eye must see, so that minds can believe.

Too many good methods get passed by on this forum by people who think they know too much already. PATTERN 7 will re-educate a lot of people. Bring it on Bayes. I'm ready to roll.

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 22, 05:37 PM 2012
The longer you can wait the more you will win Matty. AMKs idea is great. I don't personaly take that approach. Hit and run gives me an average 11/1 strikerate. Tracking High and low and Odd and Even . If the first to qualify loses. I treble stakes on the next. I have only 3 losses in nearly 400 games doing so. That is how you profit in roulette. Identifying something random can't do often and exploiting it with smart Money management.

The Pattern breaker concept is about to delver its ultimate power however. In a method to be called PATTERN 7. I believe its the best alround method that will ever be shown. I will first demonstrate it against Bayes RNG. Then when people realize I am serious. I will post it up. Its alround numbers are staggering. If 63 units can buy a 1000/1 strikerate. I don't care what anyone says. that's a grail. I have 3,840 plus results without a single loss. I've been playing it and the progression hasn't even been challenged once yet in over 200 games. But I eye to see, so that minds can believe.

Too many good methods get passed by on this forum by people who think they know too much already. PATTERN 7 will re-educate a lot of people. Bring it on Bayes. I'm ready to roll.

JL

I have no problem waiting most of the time, but after doing a few tests you could go HUNDREDS of spins before a bet occurs... doesn't seem right.

Quote from: mattymattz on Jun 22, 05:40 PM 2012

JL

I have no problem waiting most of the time, but after doing a few tests you could go HUNDREDS of spins before a bet occurs... doesn't seem right.

That's why I don't do it Matty. I have faith in the rarity of double losses. But I've long wanted a method I can just play and win with a staggering strikerate. No long waiting no drawdowns. No nothing just win. I said this before RANDOM has Virtual limits. Points is can rarely pass. A good method identifies one and exploits it. PATTERN 7 is such a method. I will even put it to test on a real RNG. Because it will tell me without any time wasted if that RNG is rigged or not. PATTERN 7 is working equally well on live wheels and test RNGS. I think its THE ONE. Now I'm eager to show it. When Bayes gets it done.

Since I started this thread, I feel free to comment.

Go for it, Sam!

Pattern7.......another pie-in-the-sky promise.

John, you need to move to Someday Isle.  All you ever say is *someday I'll do this" and *someday I'll do that*

Pure bloviatiion.

Sam

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 22, 05:45 PM 2012
Since I started this thread, I feel free to comment.

Sam

actually i started this one - but your free to post

lol,
MM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 22, 05:45 PM 2012
Since I started this thread, I feel free to comment.

Go for it, Sam!

Pattern7.......another pie-in-the-sky promise.

John, you need to move to Someday Isle.  All you ever say is *someday I'll do this" and *someday I'll do that*

Pure bloviatiion.

Sam

You started this thread? So you are Mattymatz too are you? Bloviation is not my game. Beating roulette is. When I defeat Bayes RNG. And turn more than  a few minds around. I wont have to suffer ridicule from people who think they know too much Sam. The respect is on the way. Bayes comes back from his two day hike. Loads up his incarnation of an RNG. And all will see what ive got  coming.

I must say that I agree with JohnLegend. PATTERN BREAKER should be played as JL advises. However, I have faith in PB doubles losses and wanted to see if TwoCat wanted to take this journey. Will I stop playing PB if our business venture were not to succeed, a loss within 7 games, or two losses within 12 games after Jl has generated a 111/1 strikerate ? No, PB has too many elements.

Again I have to say that this is not how to play roulette, this is a one time thing I feel should be played with any solid method once.

Quote from: amk on Jun 22, 06:22 PM 2012
I must say that I agree with JohnLegend. PATTERN BREAKER should be played as JL advises. However, I have faith in PB doubles losses and wanted to see if TwoCat wanted to take this journey. Will I stop playing PB if our business venture were not to succeed, a loss within 7 games, or two losses within 12 games after Jl has generated a 111/1 strikerate ? No, PB has to many elements.

Again I have to say that this is not how to play roulette, this is a one time thing I feel should be played with any solid method once.

I'm always open for improvement and criticism AMK if its not malicious and is constructive. Now I've had great success playing PB the way I do. And I know the way you play it will also yield positive results. I had pattern 4 you gave us the great CODE 4 then Warrior being Warrior took CODE 4 and married it to Divide and Conquer. And gave us Hybrid DC4. Which is even stronger.

And so it goes on. PB has worked well for me. But could it be better??? Of course. I'm always pressing for perfection. I'm in a boastful mood with PATTERN 7. But I will say this now. Its going to impress a few people. I don't know of anything better I really don't. And its working because its allowing random to do what it will do whether we bet or not. Its just highlighted a beautiful and very consistent breakdown in randoms formation of those 8 possible patterns.