Bis 5x5x5... or Throwing Mud until it Sticks!

[Chrisbis]

Of course.
U start with 100 BR,
your stop-loss is to be -100
So, if U don't win any game/hand, your session will end when U reach 0 (Zero BR)  ok?

Say U make 10 units in first game, your BR will be 110, and your trailing stop-loss value, will now be -90
since it too has moved up 10 units.
and so on.
Say your play goes like this.
Net+/-        BR       stop-loss (Trailing)
Start         100        -100
+10..........110..........-90
+5............115..........-85
+12..........127..........-73
-17...........110..........-73 (See, your stop-loss as a trailing entity stays at the higher value,
                                      to prevent Profit wipe-out.)
-10...........100..........-73
+25...........125.........-73
+15...........140.........-60 (New trailing stop-loss, since U made more gain)
+23...........163.........-37

do  U see it now Yanks? U will only ever lose 100 from ANY position,
and not lose your whole BR, if You have made gain/profit.

In short..........your Trailing stop-loss, if the same as your Target Profit,
will always be the same as You are short of your Overall Target (when You are at a New High)

So, if You are at 170 New High BR, your stop-loss (Trailing) will show You are -30* short of your Target!
Easy Peasy eh!

*(assuming Ur Target was +100 on original BR)

[Serendipity]

Hi chris,

what progression do you use in case of 3 losses in a row?

thx.

[Chrisbis]

Flat bet only at moment .

checking the horizon for possible progression tho I think its going to be too deep.

[Priyanka]

Chrisbis, You are a smart chap! This works like a charm.

I have been testing this over 40 sets of actuals from Wiesbaden and it has produced +50 or more for each of those 40 sessions. I have stuck to all the original rules you posted (also on 3 times instead of 2times, as my intuition tell me that 2 times is very less to get a hit). I have made a slight modification though based on an idea that crossed my mind. You said, trailing stop-loss means, I will lose only 100 units from my peak and may not lose my bankroll in entirety even if I get one hit. I have extended this thought process to profit as well as I don’t want to be greedy to target 100 all the time. Basically I am going in for a variance of 100. Anytime I achieve a variance of 100 I stop. This might be in the negative territory or in the positive territory. Hope you are following me and am not leading to confusion. I think, I will try extending this thought process to other systems I have read through as well.

I will stick to the plan of playing the 5 systems, that I thought of playing today, but this one is very tempting and will play tomorrow for 3 real sessions.

Btn, I am posting below one of the sets of Wiesbaden spins to show how am testing.


[reveal=Wiesbaden spins]
   BR   Target   stop-loss
7   100   200   0
25   91   191   0
0   74   174   0
5   90   174   0
36   79   174   0
5   95   174   0
3   120   174   20
20   110   174   20
24   126   174   26
23   115   174   26
9   96   174   26
12   106   174   26
25   96   174   26
25   111   174   26
1   100   174   26
1   118   174   26
29   108   174   26
8   92   174   26
18   107   174   26
34   98   174   26
7   82   174   26
4   97   174   26
16   87   174   26
22   105   174   26
4   94   174   26
12   111   174   26
5   101   174   26
30   83   174   26
2   93   174   26
4   119   174   26
4   145   174   45
17   135   174   45
14   154   174   54
26   144   174   54
22   162   174   62
7   151   174   62
25   131   174   62
35   140   174   62
25   167   174   67
0   157   174   67
4   143   174   67
5   157   174   67
12   146   174   67
3   164   174   67
24   154   174   67
22   169   174   69
12   194   Target achieved   
[/reveal]

[Chrisbis]

It works on those numbers/spins because there are so many Finales!
Well done.

I am confused on your "100 variance" for your Stop-Loss.

Do U mean U will (at will) change the stop-loss value depending of what U had for lunch?

Or something else completely.
Trailing stop-loss, is like bringing up the rear gunners during advance into enemy territory.
So, that if U retreat, U don't have to go far to get into safe hands! LoL

[reveal=Psssss....]
It's not my original idea entirely!
[/reveal]

[Priyanka]

I am confused on your "100 variance" for your Stop-Loss.

I fix +100/-100 as profit/loss as you mentioned in your post. So I need a starting bankroll of 100 and the game ends when its wiped out or I reach 200.

However, what I am trying to do is everytime I reach a new high, I change the loss target and everytime I reach a new low, I change the profit target. This is done to keep a variance at 100, i.e., I have a floating bankroll of 100.

Refer to the example spins I posted. After the first spin, I lost 9 units. So my new profit target is reduced to 91units, so that it is within a 100 unit reach. After the second spin, I lost a further 17units. So my new profit target is reduced to 74 units, so that it is within a 100 unit reach. Similarly the spin before the last spin in the example, I reached a new high of 169. So I changed my stoploss to 69 to be within 100 units variance always.

Hope the rain is gone now!

[Chrisbis]

I see (said the blind man looking for his black cat in the blackened basement on the darkest day of the month)

What You are doing, is reducing the target, because the BR has shrunk,
and as thus is not large enough to support the play thro to the original higher Target.
Nice touch.

Bit like a restart/reset, at each loss intersection.
Be good to see that in an Excel, as U re-calc those variable Stop-Loss positions.

Anyway, I am going to run those Wies-Bang spins thro Bis9till5 to see how they fair.
Will post outcome soon.
No rain!

[Priyanka]

Anyway, I am going to run those Wies-Bang spins thro Bis9till5 to see how they fair.

How did it go Chris?

[Chrisbis]

Have only looked at the series of numbers, and searched for the Bis9till5 connections,
and there don't appear to be many.
So, my projection is a unless progression involved.
Looks like I can only see 14 winning positions, out of the 47 numbers spun,
just by visually tracking the series numbers(spins).
and making the 9/5/9 connection.

Maybe I will lay this out for everyone to see.

I actually could come out ahead, if mild progression used!!

[Chrisbis]

"Yanks" Wiesbaden Spins from early post.

[reveal]
7
25
0
5
36
5
3
20
24
23
9
12
25
25
1
1
29
8
18
34
7
4
16
22
4
12
5
30
2
4
4
17
17
14
26
22
7
25
35
25
0
4
5
12
3
24
22
12

Those are the spins.
Here is the Telemetry.

Lets say BR=300
Spins, W/L,  Out,   In,   Net,    BR,            Notes
7                                         300       Tracking First spin, Bet 9u centered on #7 (Level 1)       
25        L,     -9,     0      -9    291       Bet 9u Cnrt on #25 + 5u Cnrt on #7
0          L,    -14     0     -23   277       Bet 9u Cnrt on #0   + 5u Cnrt on 25
5          L     -14     0     -37   263       Bet 18u Cnrt on #5  + 10u Cnrt on 0 (Level 2) (3 losses in Row)
36        L     -28     0     -65   235       Bet 27u Cnrt on #36  + 15u Cnrt on 5 (Level 3)
5          W   -42   108    +1    301       Bet 9u Cnrt on #5 + 5u Cnrt on #36 (Level 1)
3          L    -14      0     -13   287       Bet 18u Cnrt on #3 + 10u Cnrt on #5 (Level 2)
20        L    -28      0     -41   259       Bet 27u Cnrt on #20 + 15u Cnrt on #3 (Level 3)
24        W   -42   108    +25  325       Bet 9u Cnrt on #24 + 5u Cnrt on #20 (Level 1)
23        W   -14    36     +47  347       Bet 9u Cnrt on #23 + 5u Cnrt on #24 (New Hi)
9          L    -14      0     +33  333       Bet 9u Cnrt on #9   + 5u Cnrt on #23
12        L    -14      0     +19  319       Bet 18u Cnrt on #12  + 10u Cnrt on #9 (Level 2)
25        L    -28      0     -9     291       Bet 27u Cnrt on #25  + 15u Cnrt on #12 (Level 3)
25        W  -42    108    +57  357       Bet 9u Cnrt on #25 only (full overlap)(New Hi)(Level 1)
1          L    -9       0     +48   348       Bet 9u Cnrt on #1 + 5u Cnrt on #25
1          W  -14     36    +70   370       Bet 9u Cnrt on #1 only (full overlap)(New Hi)
29        L    -9       0     +61   361       Bet 9u Cnrt on #29 + 5u Cnrt on #1
8          L   -14      0     +47   347       Bet 18u Cnrt on #8 + 10u Cnrt on #29 (Level 2)
18        W  -28     72    +91   391       Bet  9u Cnrt on #18 + 5u Cnrt on #8 (Level 1)(New Hi)
34        L   -14      0     +77   377       Bet 18u Cnrt on #34 + 10u Cnrt on #18 (Level 2)
7         W  -28      72   +121  421       Target Reached +100 Session Over, :-)
4
16
22
4
12
5
30
2*
4*
4*
17*
17* *All winning numbers
14
26
22*
7*
25
35*
25*
0*
4*
5
12*
3*
24
22
12

[Spin4Fun]

Testing the 3 strategies, neighbours, 4 sectors and finals.

link:://youtu.be/veuGnpqmZLc

[Chrisbis]

All three strategies together?

Shame, it started so well to !
I was waiting for you to stop, when the graph went up nicely!! lol

Where were the spins from? I was watching muted.