Antiphase method

[albalaha]

Antiphase method



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[Mikeo]

When I started looking at Roulrtte, a few months ago, I had exactly this idea: bet against the 5 previous spins.  5 spins produce 32 unique red/black combinations.  On a no-zero table, on average, the 5 spin sequence will be immediately duplicated once in 32 attempts.  So you will, on average, win 31 of 32 5-spin bets. 

I was betting using the Martingale system, so that one loss would leave me -31 units.  Each win produces a 1 unit profit for a total of 31 units, and break even.  If you include the zero results, that means in the long run you should lose by the house edge.

Lately I was thinking perhaps I should revisit this and look at new staking plans.  This antiphase system provides that, a progression of 1,3,7,15,31.  The idea is that if you win on the 1st spin you win 1 unit, on the 2nd spin you win 2 units, on the 3rd you win 3 units, on the 4th you win 4 units, on the 5th you win 5 units.  So if you average the same number of wins on each of the 5 spins, you have an average win of 3 units.

In my original concept, in the 32 attempts, on average I should win 1 unit per win for 31 wins, minus 31 units per loss for 1 loss, for a net profit of 0 (ignoring the house edge).

If this bet sequence works as suggested, an average of 3 units per win, then in those 32 attempts you should on average win 3 units per win for 31 wins = 93 units, minus 57 units per loss for 1 loss , for a balance of +36 units. 

The flaw in this system is the assumption that you will win an average of 3 units per win.  That is a false assumption.  I ran a couple of tests to confirm this.  By far, the majority of wins came on the first spin, fewer on the 2nd, fewer on the 3rd, and hardly any on the 4th an 5th.  The average win was about 2 units, which would give you a result of break even, minus the house advantage.

I don't believe this will win consistently.

[albalaha]

I can not say it is a super winner but atleast it tells a very unique play style. may be you earn enough in a session and quit without losing anything. how is the idea? why should you wait for a loss?

[Mikeo]

Well, that would be ideal.  But the problem is that you will run into losses in the first sequence, or close to the first, so you will not get the chance to make a profit.  Then you must recover 57 units.

I say this because when I started, inexperienced, I bet this.  It looked good on paper.

I won quite a few sessions, but then began to run into immediate or early losses.  Fortunately, I was using very small stakes.

I was aiming for 20 units profit per session.  Perhaps a lower target will make a difference, although I have my doubts.  A lower win target means you have to win more sessions to make up for the inevitable losses.

Whatever you decide, do a lot of testing first.

[albalaha]

I think this system can give good results if played on a no zero roulette like betvoyager with cents.

[Mikeo]

That's where I played.

Give it a try with the lower win target.  With cent stakes, you won't be risking much.

[esoito]

Trouble is, BV is SOFTWARE -- not roulette.

Despite their guff about Randomness Control it's still software with its inherent weaknesses.

And, as we all know, RNG software of all flavours is -- how can I put this kindly -- doctored.

There's nothing to stop the software scanning the table, noting where your bets are AND THEN RANDOMLY SELECTING FROM THE UNCOVERED POSITIONS.

It meets Randomness Control and, at the same time, neatly scoops your money up...

[jordan69]

Hi,

Interesting system, I just begin some tests so it's fresh :)
But first idea is to stop after 4 spins (mean progression is 1 3 7 15)
because it seems that the great majority of the wins are between 1-4 spins
with a huge percentage 1-2.

Don't be greedy and target a few units for each day (less than 10, have to think about)
I'll continue my tests and see what happens.
Cheers.

Jordan69

[jordan69]

Hi,

Interesting system, I just begin some tests so it's fresh :)
But first idea is to stop after 4 spins (mean progression is 1 3 7 15)
because it seems that the great majority of the wins are between 1-4 spins
with a huge percentage 1-2. 

Don't be greedy and target a few units for each day (less than 10, have to think about)
I'll continue my tests and see what happens. 
Cheers. 

:-(

Well, after 4 sessions of 52 spins, (without any stop loss or target, bet all the EC's)
in fact just to see how it goes with this modification. . .  it looks really unstable. . .

I lost several progressions (-26 units) moreover, it was in a row. . .
i've been at - 83 units after 16 spins !!!!
so i think it's better to stop.


Jordan69

[albertojonas]

sorry 4 the double thread (will delete it)

Post my test here.

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