Im winning but Need some help please

[Sonar]

Hi there, appreciate this is my first post to the forum and i have zero credibility or relationships will all of you guys but I respect the honesty in this forum and I hope that you will hear me out before either engaging with me or finishing me!

Ive been playing online roulette for many years, i enjoy it, its fun, I have won money, lost it all, won some back etc etc etc.  Over time i worked out for myself without any kind of involvement in forums or software that there were certain patterns that appear reasonably regularly and I needed to find a way to take advantage of them.  I cant tell you what i do for a living because my employers would never believe i had come up with this idea and was talking about it in a roulette forum but lets just say i have been in business for a while and so decided to approach this idea from a business perspective rather than a gambling one.

Whatever i say in this post it seems dodgy! please bear with me - i am genuine and am prepared to show you what i have been working on.

I am going to now cut to the chase as the next paragraph in real life took 10 months.  I have developed some software which plays and watches online roulette tables, when it spots one of my target patterns, it stops, plays an alert and lets me take over manually to play the bets.  My win rate is very high and because of the depth of the patterns i set the alerts at (these are customisable) I normally dont have to go past 4 or 5 progressions to get the win. Mostly the win comes in a max of 3 progressions. the software reads numbers horizontally and vertically.

Make no mistake, sometimes this thing comes for your money and regardless of how good I believe my software is it doesnt stop those moments where it is going to take your bank. I completely understand the chaotic nightmare this game can be. But I need to protect against this and im not a mathematician! I am someone with what seems to be a decent plan though.

I have found a way to avoid that wipeout which basically slows down my win progress but means i dont get wiped out. Its basically a martingale hybrid which means you bail out after a certain number of progressions, but then obviously have to make it back.  I want help with the progressions i should use to try and make my process faster and more secure.  i need something to be good enough to give me good payback up to 5 progressions but on the rare occasions its going past 5 i dont want to be wiped out.  I spend my time trying new progression amount systems and some are ok, some are so slow its painful.  I am in constant test phase for this software but i have managed to get it to a point where scaling it up is really effective.  i have the software running on 5 different laptops at once which even on low bet amounts of .20 per spin is giving me £15-25 per hour (that is with the wipe out moments too) I have set myself a goal of £50 per day and i play between 8 and 10pm every night, normally i can reach or exceed that goal.  What i really want to happen is to be able to increase my bet progression without getting smacked! (i know I guess everyone needs it!) but I really do have a system that is winning way more than losing.

Hopefully you can see where i am coming from, its a genuine enquiry, im not trying to sell my software, in fact I really dont ever want to do that at all, but i am prepared to share a copy to anyone that can really genuinely help me.  The software would be locked to one computer and it could not be duplicated.

So thats it please ask any questions if you have them, i hope you will be respectful about my project as its taken a lot of time and money to develop. (an awful lot!) I am fully aware of the seeming futility of this game and the difficulties with genuinely beating it so this isnt a blind fallacy, its the best attempt i have ever had at possibly making some serious money and enjoying doing it too!

I have attached a photo of my current setup, I just bought old second hand laptops that were capable of running the software.

Thanks for reading this epic (in length) post!

[Taotie]

Hi Sonar,

It appears you've so far made a solid effort to succeed at roulette. I'l help if I can, but it's hard to give assistance if everything is vague.

What patterns does your software alert you too? I mean what focal points on the layout are involved?

You indicate a number of progressions. By that I assume you play through the progressions regardless of individual wins/losses, perhaps ending only on a recovery or new bankroll high?

As for getting smacked with wipeouts can I suggest they are inevitable, especially when using progressions. In this instance my advise is to forgo attempting to recover those wipeouts with further progressions. Roulette is a world of reap and sow. Some seasons are better for reaping and some better for sowing. You don't see farmers planting seed out of season because they lost their crop to fire, drought, or flooding rain.

At these times the best course of action is to purge the loss and start afresh. At least that would be my advise without the benefit of knowing your method.

Anyway I hope you get the inspiration you need to move forward with your work, but suggest you be prepared for that to happen one post at a time.

Cheers.


PS,
Love the wallpaper! 

[cht]

From the limited info you provide this is my feedback.

Plot a distribution graph that shows the results over a large population - 1step, 2nd step, 3rd step...  This graph will give you the idea how your 'wins' come in.

The apex of the graph could be the 2nd step, then when the alert prompts treat it as a virtual bet if it loses then start betting from 2nd step....

Or the graph may reveal a steep fall off point on the 3step, then stop betting from the 4th step onwards.

In summary, you need to plot a distribution graph of volume against steps over a large population of data, see what it tells you.

[superman]

but I really do have a system that is winning way more than losing.

Flat bet then

[maestro]

Flat bet then

..this is a good one

[MumboJumbo]

Hi there,  i have the software running on 5 different laptops at once which even on low bet amounts of .20 per spin is giving me £15-25 per hour What i really want to happen is to be able to increase my bet progression without getting smacked!

I have attached a photo of my current setup, I just bought old second hand laptops that were capable of running the software.

Thanks for reading this epic (in length) post!

I HOPE YOU WILL BE SMACKED 

[Sonar]

I HOPE YOU WILL BE SMACKED 

Lol is that supposed to be an attempt to troll me?

V funny 

[Sonar]

Flat bet then

Awesome advice thanks

[Sonar]

From the limited info you provide this is my feedback.

Plot a distribution graph that shows the results over a large population - 1step, 2nd step, 3rd step...  This graph will give you the idea how your 'wins' come in.

The apex of the graph could be the 2nd step, then when the alert prompts treat it as a virtual bet if it loses then start betting from 2nd step....

Or the graph may reveal a steep fall off point on the 3step, then stop betting from the 4th step onwards.

In summary, you need to plot a distribution graph of volume against steps over a large population of data, see what it tells you.

I am now doing exactly this - thank you for the advice i appreciate it i am also happy to share the data with you if you are interested. Some people have managed to contact me outside of this forum i guess with a pm through the forum, if you are able to make contact ill send the data to you.

Thanks again for taking the time to read and reply with advice.

[Sonar]

Hi Sonar,

It appears you've so far made a solid effort to succeed at roulette. I'l help if I can, but it's hard to give assistance if everything is vague.

What patterns does your software alert you too? I mean what focal points on the layout are involved?

You indicate a number of progressions. By that I assume you play through the progressions regardless of individual wins/losses, perhaps ending only on a recovery or new bankroll high?

As for getting smacked with wipeouts can I suggest they are inevitable, especially when using progressions. In this instance my advise is to forgo attempting to recover those wipeouts with further progressions. Roulette is a world of reap and sow. Some seasons are better for reaping and some better for sowing. You don't see farmers planting seed out of season because they lost their crop to fire, drought, or flooding rain.

At these times the best course of action is to purge the loss and start afresh. At least that would be my advise without the benefit of knowing your method.

Anyway I hope you get the inspiration you need to move forward with your work, but suggest you be prepared for that to happen one post at a time.

Cheers.


PS,
Love the wallpaper! 

Taotie thanks so much for taking the time to reply in this detail.  Really appreciate it and have taken your advice on board.

[Sonar]

From the limited info you provide this is my feedback.

Plot a distribution graph that shows the results over a large population - 1step, 2nd step, 3rd step...  This graph will give you the idea how your 'wins' come in.

The apex of the graph could be the 2nd step, then when the alert prompts treat it as a virtual bet if it loses then start betting from 2nd step....

Or the graph may reveal a steep fall off point on the 3step, then stop betting from the 4th step onwards.

In summary, you need to plot a distribution graph of volume against steps over a large population of data, see what it tells you.

Hi there please see attached a graph showing the number of progressions played to get the win for one of my target patterns called the double dome.

[Suecia]

Very inspiring post, been lurking these forums for a year and i've spent hundreds of hours backtesting strategies for use with a bot in the future.

I'll do setup similiar to yours, only that i will run all bots on one computer via virtualbox as my bot in this state can't handle multiple windows, multithreading is nice!

I see in your attached pictures that you play at PaddyPower, i tested their "fun play" mode and saw that you need to make a bet for every spin.
Do you just place miniumum bet on red for example until you find your trigger?
I'm also amazed that you manage to win playing RNG roulette!

Regarding your graph, the hitrate seams to be very good after the trigger.
To lower the exposure of your bankroll, i'd try to make only the first two spins since it hits 76% of the time according to your graph.
Then stop, and continue your progression next time you get the trigger.
So instead of risking to lose your 6 step progression, you'll have three triggers to recover it.
Over time this is statistically better, or bring a bigger bankroll to survive your progression.
I'd advice you to have a more data to analyze the best progression as 26 triggers isn't very much.

[Sonar]

Hey Suecia

Thanks for the response, interested to know what virtual box is? does this mean i dont need multiple computers?

I have been building up the data and the testing so i have a bigger dataset to look at, i will share this once I get chance to put it all into a graph.  I like the idea of just stopping at 2 progressions because even if i did risk a much larger bankroll i still have the chance of one of the progressions going to 9 or 10, i even had a situation last week where I had 24 reds in a row - i have NEVER seen this as long as I have been playing roulette.  So I will try the 2 progression idea and see if that takes me forward.  Once again i will report back.

[Sonar]

I see in your attached pictures that you play at PaddyPower, i tested their "fun play" mode and saw that you need to make a bet for every spin.
Do you just place miniumum bet on red for example until you find your trigger?
I'm also amazed that you manage to win playing RNG roulette!

So when you play real money you can spin for free.

Yeah a lot of people have said rng is difficult but my software only triggers quite a long way into progressions so breaking the pattern is closer than it would otherwise be

[nottophammer]

i even had a situation last week where I had 24 reds in a row - i have NEVER seen this as long as I have been playing roulette.

Sonar, on FOBT's in bookies see this happen, not that rare either, like a dozen miss for 34 spins. Seen it on smartlive, also airball