And you thought you knew about Oscar!

[GLC]

Change of plans.  Who would have guessed it?


I am shelving the differential bet method for the time being.  Instead, I have been going through my notes because I was remembering an even chance bet selection method by Carlo that I always felt was one of the better ones out there.  If I remember right, it resulted in a lot of win clumps which is what I'm looking for with this progression.


I don't know if I remember this exactly as Carlo presented it, but I know it's very close.  Now that I have some experience under my belt, I can mold Carlo's system into whatever shape I feel fits the situation best.


We will be playing 1 e.c. to begin with, but eventually we will probably play all 3 at the same time so we have plenty of betting opportunities.


I will present this method using the Red/Black even chance.


We start betting when we have 2 or more of a color and then a change of color.  At this point we bet for the new color to keep hitting.


Example:  BBBR<---right here we start betting for Red.  As long as Red continues to hit, we keep betting on it.  As soon as B hits, we immediately switch to betting for B to keep coming.
Example:  BBBRRRRB<----right here we bet for B to keep hitting.


We continue to bet this way until we get 2 losses in a row.  If we get 2 losses in a row it's because the spins are chopping like this:  BBBBRRBR<----right here we have lost 2 times in a row and should stop betting until we have a color change with at least 2 in a row and then another color change.  Example:  BBBBRRBRBRR<----don't start betting here.  The RR is our change of color with a streak but now we have to wait until the color changes again before we start betting for a streak, like this: BBBBRRBRBRRB<----right here we start betting for Black to continue.


We also stop betting if we get LWLW.  A LWLW is the result of this:  BBB(RRBB)  We lost on the 1st Red and the 4th Black.  We stop betting until we get 3 of the same color in a row, or more, and then a switch to the other color like this:  BBBRRBBRRBBBR<----right here is where we start betting again and we will be betting that Red will continue.


When zero hits, we just take the loss, but it doesn't interrupt the pattern flow.  Just continue as if it didn't hit.


We are looking for streaks of the same e.c..  Not streaks of chops or doublets.


As you can see, we are using "a streak of 2 and a color change" as our trigger to start betting for a streak.  When we get 2 chops, that breaks our streak pattern and we have to wait until we would have gotten 2 wins in a row before we can start betting for streaks again.


Option 1:  If you are using a different bet progression than the one I'm using, you don't have to stop betting when you get LWLW since you will be winning 50% of the bets.  I'm using a pluscoup progression which doesn't do well on a LWLW streak.


George

[GLC]

My newest thought on betting all 3 e.c.'s at the same time.  Sorry for all the jumping around with ideas, but I want to get them down on paper before I forget them.



We will play all 3 e.c.s, but we always bet the same amount on each even chance.  We will use the same tweaked Oscar's bet (with the new idea, I think we can use almost any progression we want with good results). 


We start by betting 1 unit on each e.c.  We can either loss 3; lose 1; win 1 or win 3.  If we lose, we continue betting the same unit amount.  If we win 3, we increase our unit amount by 1 unit.  If we win +1 three times, we increase our unit amount by 1 unit.  Remember, we always bet the same amount on each even chance.


We use the same loss chart as before but we multiply by 3.  That means that we increase our bet on all 3 e.c.'s by 1 unit every time we win 3 units until we reach 30 losses.  Then, when we win 3 bets,(remember, this could happen in 1 spin if we win on all 3 e.c.'s or it could take 3 spins if we win 2 e.c.'s and lose 1 e.c.) we increase our bet on all 3 e.c.'s by 2 units. etc....


Catalyst, Monaco, AMK, you should know exactly what I'm trying to accomplish here.  If not, just ask.  Any observations are eagerly awaited.


Sorry, I have to run.


George

[GLC]

Following up on the previous post.


We can lose all 3 e.c. bets = -3  No change in bet size.


We can lose 2 and win 1 = -1  No change in bet size.


We can win 2 and lose 1 = +1  Must win 3 times like this since the last +3 win to increase bet size.


We can win all 3 bets = +3  We increase bet size from 1 - ?  depending on how many losses we have had.


I have tested this for just a few spins, and it looks to be pretty stable.  I'm trying to identify the achilles heel.


I'm hoping this stablizes the system.  I don't really mind if it slows the + and - swings down as long as it frequently finds itself at +1 or more.


Since we are not betting differentially, we can choose our favorite bet selection method.  For right now, I'm just betting on the same even chance on each of the 3 locations for ease of play.




Cheers,


Glc

[GLC]

After a few more tests I can see that this new idea makes the system too volatile.

I can't recommend it!

Due to work and family restrictions, I'm putting roulette on hold for a while!

Luck to all,

George

[F_LAT_INO]

After a few more tests I can see that this new idea makes the system too volatile.

I can't recommend it!

Due to work and family restrictions, I'm putting roulette on hold for a while!

Luck to all,

George

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Take a time out George mate you deserved it.......you will be hearing from me soon.

[GLC]

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Take a time out George mate you deserved it.......you will be hearing from me soon.

[Nickmsi]

I too can't wait to hear from F_LAT-INO again.

His knowledge and experience has saved me hours of testing unproftitable systems. 

Looking forward to his next idea or system to be explored.

Nick

[catalyst]

if two roulette-giant Fla_t_ino and George make  a clubmix, even poison will be sweeter than honey!

[GLC]

After much testing, I want to make a much needed tweak to this system.  It makes it a little more aggressive, but I think it improves it in the long run.


My new chart is much more simple:


1-10 losses  ^1 after each win
11-20 losses  ^2 after each win
21-30 losses  ^3
31-40 losses  ^4
41-50 losses  ^5
51-60 losses  ^6
61-70 losses  ^7
71-80 losses  ^8
81-90 losses  ^9
91-100 losses  ^10


Never increase by more than 10 after a win.


You can be more conservative and limit it to a lesser number to increase after a win, say 5 or 6 units max.


I am going to copy this new chart to my  topic "A system worth a King's ransom" since they are so similar.


Hope this helps some of you.


G