Stages for Dozens

[GLC]

This is a slight modification of a few other dozen ideas that has been testing very well.

Use any double dozen bet selection.  This is for money management only.

We start our betting 1-1 on 2 dozens.  Continue to bet 1-1 until a loss
On a loss go to 1-1; 3-3 level.  Stay at this level until you recover all losses then drop back to 1-1 level until another loss.
If you lose at 1-1; 3-3 level
move to 1-1; 3-3; 9-9 level.  Stay at this level until you recover.
If you lose at 1-1; 3-3; 9-9 level
move to 3-3; 9-9; 27-27 level.  If you lose
move to 9-9; 27-27; 81-81 level.  If you have the bankroll and you lose at this level
move to 9-9; 27-27; 81-81; 243-243.

I've tested this a little and never had to go beyond the 3-3; 9-9; 27-27 level to recover.

Should work on any of your double dozen systems including matrix systems.

If any of you find the idea interesting, give it a test and report to the rest of us.

I think you'll be surprised at how rare it is to get too far down the progression before recovery.

GLC

[vundarosa]

Thx George,

Will do some testing on Code4 and see how it holds 

vundarosa

[martinnng]

Hi, I'm new here and thanks all for the posts.
This betting method seems to be very useful, BUT...
What do you recommed to do George, when this situation appears?
For example: W(bet 1-1), L (3-3), W (it is recovered, bet 1-1) , W (bet 1-1), L (3-3), L (1-1), L(3-3), L (9-9), L (3-3),  W (so stay at level and bet 9-9 ?), L, L, L, .......
In words - What to do when I'm not able to recover my past looses and the next looses appears? I am able to overcome 5 or 6 looses in a row, then recover it when will come wins.. But what to do when come next looses? I have the feeling that I wil get myself to loosing hole. Do you recommend any special betting method? Or any stoploss for, let's say 200 unit BR?
Thank you for your opinions guys.

[GLC]

Hi, I'm new here and thanks all for the posts.
This betting method seems to be very useful, BUT...
What do you recommed to do George, when this situation appears?
For example: W(bet 1-1), L (3-3), W (it is recovered, bet 1-1) , W (bet 1-1), L (3-3), L (1-1), L(3-3), L (9-9), L (3-3),  W (so stay at level and bet 9-9 ?), L, L, L, .......
In words - What to do when I'm not able to recover my past loses and the next loses appears? I am able to overcome 5 or 6 loses in a row, then recover it when will come wins.. But what to do when come next loses? I have the feeling that I wil get myself to losing hole. Do you recommend any special betting method? Or any stoploss for, let's say 200 unit BR?
Thank you for your opinions guys.

Martinnng, 

Please note that we bet 1-1 until a loss, then we go to
1-1; 3-3 until we recover the 2 units from our 1-1 loss or we lose both of these bets, then we go to
1-1; 3-3; 9-9 until we recover or lose these 3 bets, then we go to
3-3; 9-9; 27-27 until we recover or lose these 3 bets, then we go to
9-9; 27-27; 81-81 until we recover or lose these 3 bets, then we go to
27-27;81-81; 243-243 until we recover or lose these 3 bets.  If we lose at 243-243, we don't go any higher unless you have the resources to risk losing a max of 1050 units.  That's the most you can lose less anything you won along the way.  You have to get behind 15 losses to bust this out.  When you have a 64.8% chance to win to a 35.2% chance to lose.  It should be rare to get behind 15 losses.

When I say recover, I mean 1 of 3 things.  Either we recover all previous losses and then reset to 1-1, or we recover only the losses from the last stage and then we drop back down 1 level and recover the previous level from there and work our way back down to 1-1.  This is much less risky than the full recovery method.

The 3rd is the safest way to keep draw downs to a minimum.  This way is to only recover half of the losses from the previous level.  Then we drop back down to that level and recover the rest of the losses and also half the losses of the level below it.

There is a losing sequence that will bust our progression.  There always is.  If there wasn't, we would have the grail and this isn't the grail.

In fact it's a modified martingale.  It gives us more opportunities to recover than just the straight 1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27; 81-81; 243-243.  The problem we have in any bet progression is brought out with this situation.  If we play the above progression, we risk 728 units hoping to never have a losing sequence of 6 losses in a row.  When we do, we're set back 728 units.  That's okay if we're winning 800 units for every 728 unit loss, but not so good if we're winning 700 units for every 728 unit loss.

On the other hand, 6 losses in a row barely phases the progression I posted, but LLLWLLWLLLWLLWLLLW etc... this does phase my progression.  Enough of that type of sequence and we bust also.

The straight martingale wins us units rapidly and is a lot of fun to play.  The problem is 6 in a row comes up all too frequently and when it does, it knocks the wind out of our sails and leaves us discouraged.

With my progression, we can also win units at a pretty healthy clip, but when we enter a serious losing spell, we can grind away for quite a while without making enough headway to pull out of the hole and eventually we may even lose while betting 243-243.  This ends our progression unless we decide to invest the money to take it further. 

Yes, set a stop loss of 1000 units.  Playing progressions like this one are suicide without a large enough stop loss to give yourself some wiggle room in the ups and downs.

If you don't want to go all the way to 243-243, pick somewhere along the line that you want to stop at if need be and buy in for enough units so you can bet that last amount on a losing run and if you do and lose, then that's that.

If you play this for small unit sizes like Ralph suggests, you can give yourself a chance to win a few dollars and maybe never have a total loss.  But, you must be prepared to lose because it can and will probably happen at some point.

1054  Units at a dime per unit is $105.40.  If I were going to play this progression seriously, I would start at a dime and as I win units, build my unit size proportionately.

This will tell you if using this bet progression suits your playing style without risking the farm.

Good Luck,

GLC

[martinnng]

Thank you for explanatinon.
I have try it in free (no money) mode and it seems look very good way. I didn't notice situation that one dozen repeated more than 6 times. But in real mode, the dozen can common repeat 8 times in a row. And it killed me. Is it random? Or is it feature of real mode roulette that is more agressive, is set to kill us?

We have to find the way how to survive 9 or 10 times repeated dozen. Is that the right way?

[doubledime]

Martinnng, 

Please note that we bet 1-1 until a loss, then we go to
1-1; 3-3 until we recover the 2 units from our 1-1 loss or we lose both of these bets, then we go to
1-1; 3-3; 9-9 until we recover or lose these 3 bets, then we go to
3-3; 9-9; 27-27 until we recover or lose these 3 bets, then we go to
9-9; 27-27; 81-81 until we recover or lose these 3 bets, then we go to
27-27;81-81; 243-243 until we recover or lose these 3 bets.  If we lose at 243-243, we don't go any higher unless you have the resources to risk losing a max of 1050 units.  That's the most you can lose less anything you won along the way.  You have to get behind 15 losses to bust this out.  When you have a 64.8% chance to win to a 35.2% chance to lose.  It should be rare to get behind 15 losses.

When I say recover, I mean 1 of 3 things.  Either we recover all previous losses and then reset to 1-1, or we recover only the losses from the last stage and then we drop back down 1 level and recover the previous level from there and work our way back down to 1-1.  This is much less risky than the full recovery method.

The 3rd is the safest way to keep draw downs to a minimum.  This way is to only recover half of the losses from the previous level.  Then we drop back down to that level and recover the rest of the losses and also half the losses of the level below it.

There is a losing sequence that will bust our progression.  There always is.  If there wasn't, we would have the grail and this isn't the grail.

In fact it's a modified martingale.  It gives us more opportunities to recover than just the straight 1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27; 81-81; 243-243.  The problem we have in any bet progression is brought out with this situation.  If we play the above progression, we risk 728 units hoping to never have a losing sequence of 6 losses in a row.  When we do, we're set back 728 units.  That's okay if we're winning 800 units for every 728 unit loss, but not so good if we're winning 700 units for every 728 unit loss.

On the other hand, 6 losses in a row barely phases the progression I posted, but LLLWLLWLLLWLLWLLLW etc... this does phase my progression.  Enough of that type of sequence and we bust also.

The straight martingale wins us units rapidly and is a lot of fun to play.  The problem is 6 in a row comes up all too frequently and when it does, it knocks the wind out of our sails and leaves us discouraged.

With my progression, we can also win units at a pretty healthy clip, but when we enter a serious losing spell, we can grind away for quite a while without making enough headway to pull out of the hole and eventually we may even lose while betting 243-243.  This ends our progression unless we decide to invest the money to take it further. 

Yes, set a stop-loss of 1000 units.  Playing progressions like this one are suicide without a large enough stop-loss to give yourself some wiggle room in the ups and downs.

If you don't want to go all the way to 243-243, pick somewhere along the line that you want to stop at if need be and buy in for enough units so you can bet that last amount on a losing run and if you do and lose, then that's that.

If you play this for small unit sizes like Ralph suggests, you can give yourself a chance to win a few dollars and maybe never have a total loss.  But, you must be prepared to lose because it can and will probably happen at some point.

1054  Units at a dime per unit is $105.40.  If I were going to play this progression seriously, I would start at a dime and as I win units, build my unit size proportionately.

This will tell you if using this bet progression suits your playing style without risking the farm.

Good Luck,

GLC

What online casino lets you play for 10 cents?

thanks

[GLC]

TwoCatSam has stated that Betvoyager allows bets from $0.01 and up.


I don't play on-line so can't confirm that.


What say you Sam?