System sellers everywhere

[WannaWin]

What discontent. Everyone is a system vendor now.

Since I have been cheated in the past with systems for sale. Please do not fall into that trap you. "

If the system worked out the greatest secret in the history of casinos and would be guarded by the great minds that have created for themselves and their children and children of their children. In complete silence.

Sell = roulette system scam.

Why sell the money-making machine AND NOT use it yourself? Maybe cause it does Not make Any money.

Please do not buy systems and if deemed consider it so long as a return to sanity and then you do not.

WannaWin

[Gizmotron]

I'm doing this the slow way. Ed Thorpe did without grace. I'm doing it in a way that a few will be able to exploit before things are changed. It's not my fault that garbage is out there for suckers. So the true method gets out there in a world full of fakes. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Maui13]

@WannaWin  - my 2c

If all the inventors in the world kept back their secrets, we would still be living in caves, with fire and no computers and roulette 

So, I think there should be a place to sell "systems" but the computer was a GREAT invention, so was the automobile, and we would gladly pay good money for that....

BUT for a crappy roulette system seller to "rob" me claiming their system does certain things....THAT I agree with, should not be tolerated.

Maybe we should have a "commercial part" where 2/3/4 people from this site, gets given software to test, for free, then reports back, and we then have the choice (according to their opinion) if we would like to buy or not.

This is just a suggestion, maybe our Admins might consider?

If it's tested,and worth selling...why not?

Regards
M

[Gizmotron]

Maybe we should have a "commercial part" where 2/3/4 people from this site, gets given software to test, for free, then reports back, and we then have the choice (according to their opinion) if we would like to buy or not.

That's an interesting idea. One problem though. If I did that and got back a positive report on my tutoring then there would be a run on my time so big that I could not handle it. Also the method would be leaked out by an attention grabbing idiot like Ed Thorp, who was in fact looking for attention from the academic community of mathematicians. There would be an explosion of the methods and tactics that would cause an uproar in the community of casino owners. Then you would have your dream and you would have your barbed wire fence and attack dogs to prevent you from exploiting the discovery.

So I'm down with the exposer of the frauds. I'm just not excited about ever seeing a working system published on the internet that also includes proof or validation. It's a double edged sword. It's a conflict of interest to the successful players. It's a form of professional suicide.

[Maui13]

Gizmo, it's called "creating a business"    You cannot handle the load, but have a golden concept, you employ 1/2/3/4 etc. people that can do the tutoring for you! SO you've just, started a business, emplyed 4 people and boosted economy.

Who invented the car? Bmw/Audi  None of them, but the engine came from someone else, the "secret" got out....

I have this stupid saying - If there's a will, there's a way! I bet my behind, that some chap, sitting somewhere in his privacy of his home, is doing really well gambling, and keeping it under cover. Sooner or later it will out, and casino's will put counter measures in place.
Untill the next wiz kid on the block...

I do agree with you that it would be rather stupid putting it on the web.... perhaps some underground community?     Maybe some elite gambling group...who knows!!!

[Gizmotron]

My solution is to teach a few people at a time. To charge just the right price. It takes a few days to teach this. The student then needs to go on and gain experience that leads to confidence. $2000 per student is far too high. Less than $500 is disrespectful of all my hard earned work. It's just enough to filter out people that are not going to take it serious and that would be a waste of my time anyway. These people would throw it back in my face if they had no vested interest in it in the first place. This way the teaching gets out there slowly. To say there is still time to take advantage of it comes off as sounding like a sales pitch. So I take the abuse of the skeptics in order to control the flow and speed at which I take on students.

[WannaWin]

Your system is based on the statistics of the game.

As far as I know, no rules of the game needs to change, just ask the players not to write in the tables and go to terminate the opportunity.

The chip-scatterers are in to lose as usual, and the smart bettors FEW Killed by what they need most: their statistics notes.

The casinos must be laughing at us.

WannaWin

[Bayes]

Gizmo,

You can't seriously believe that putting your method out there is going to close down the casinos, can you? 

Besides, what's to stop any or all of your current students from re-packaging your method and selling it for $29.95?

[Bayes]

Your system is based on the statistics of the game.

FEW Killed by what they need most: their statistics notes.

The casinos must be laughing at us.
WannaWin

People can use sophisticated software at home to analyse results and calculate bets, but that possibility doesn't seem to have made an impact on the online casino industry, in fact, quite the reverse, there are more live wheels available than ever before.

[Maui13]

It's like playing cops and robbers...

And were the cops 

It's our job, and in our best interest to get the robbers (casinos) back!

I thought that's what we're doing here....helping each other reach our objectives against the odds... common goal

[WannaWin]

For the casinos we are thieves.

They Have a setup to get people's money 100%. Winners Then rob them.

That for a casino player to play with an advantage is like the bank robber to them.

If you are winning you are cheating = Because you are supposed to be losing.

They say: Cheater cheater! Why? Because He is winning.

The winners are 2 times thieves then.

WannaWin

[WannaWin]

People can use sophisticated software at home to analyse results and calculate bets, but that possibility doesn't seem to have made an impact on the online casino industry, in fact, quite the reverse, there are more live wheels available than ever before.

Very poignant point.

If all the computing power of modern computers has not come to anything, casinos have nothing to fear from the paper and pencil in the tables.

[Gizmotron]

Gizmo,

You can't seriously believe that putting your method out there is going to close down the casinos, can you? 

Besides, what's to stop any or all of your current students from re-packaging your method and selling it for $29.95?

Once the working model for betting strategy, using randomness, is widely known then yes, things will change or have already changed. Then I will "seriously believe" that you will have been wrong all along, as I now enjoy privately.