Full System: "3 Sets Of Numbers" / can someone explain?

[2BobBet]

Hello Red

I hope that you can understand this way ,it took me a while LOL
I had trouble posting all information in one ,don't know why never had a problem before!

I have done some small tests on this not great so far :(
Hope you have better luck mate

btw you will have to tweak this for 00 as this designed for euro wheel maybe put 00 with table 1 - 00 and you will have to play 8 numbers instead of 7 just my 2p worth

All the best
Rob

[sherminator]

Hello Red,

I will go through some of the numbers you posted to try and give you an idea.
It is certainly not the easiest method to understand at first glance.  Well it seems very creative, I can only think that it is still probably a work in progress.  The plus side to all this is that it may get someone elses creativity flowing. 

so. . . .

33, does not qualify.  (remember, we don't count numbers 30-36. )
21, In the section 20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29.  Take out numbers 20+21.
15, In the section 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19.  Take out numbers 15+16.
24, In the section 20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29.  Take out numbers 24+27.  In this section you have already taken out numbers 20+21, and now that you have taken out 24+27 as well, you are just left with 6 numbers in this group and remember that is one of the rules for qualifying a bet.   Therefore you are left with the numbers 22,23,25,26,28,29 to bet for the next 6 spins.  You only flat bet these numbers.  So the most you can lose is 36 units.  If you get just one hit, you at least get your money back.
so. . . . .
35, once again that number does not qualify for anything.  -6 units.
28, a winner here.  you have laid out 12 units and have just got back 36 units here, so you are in profit by +24.  I am not sure at this point if you are supposed to carry on and look for more hits or restart.  To stay on the side of caution, let's stop at a win within the 6 spin betting opportunity or take our 36 unit loss and start retracking.

so. . . 
11, In the section 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19.  Take out numbers 10+11.
32, does not qualify.
4, In the section 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.  Take out numbers 4+7.
3, In the section 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.  Take out numbers 3+8.  So here in this section, you have now taken out numbers 4+7 and 3+8.  You have a betting opportunity here and are required to bet numbers 0,1,2,5,6,9 for the next 6 spins.

so. . . . .
21, loss -6.  total running count +18.
35, loss -12.  total running count +12.
17, loss -18.  total running count +6.
8, loss -24.  total running count 0.
2, winner, +6.  total running count +30.

So far you have had 2 winning coups from your 2 attempts.
I hope you get the idea now red. 
How about when you get time,  try the remaining numbers and I will let you know if you get them correct or not. 

regards

sherminator

[Red Nickels]

thank you 2bob and sherminator, I was about to post what I think how I played correctly and now I will go over your posts too.       in the mean time does this seem right.     .     .       I looked at the first 7 spins which were
33
21
15
24
35
28
11
so I took out 11 and 20 from that group and I took out the 28 and 23 from that group and I took out the 24 and 27 from that group which leaves the 21-22-25-26-29-30 from that group, we bet on those numbers and get a hit in 3 spins with the 21 (next 3 numbers were 4-3-21. )   I cannot even begin to think about if there is any logic at all to this system but at least it's different from most and I find it curious.     .     .       will go over your posts and see how the rest of the numbers do.     .     .       thanks much for the "tech support"!

[sherminator]

I just had a quick visual scan through the remaining numbers you posted up red and can see that there were roughly another 6 betting opportunities, at first glance it looks like 4 won, 1 broke even and there was 1 loser. It actually becomes very easy to track it once you understand it.
It could just be that the numbers you provided are a good set of numbers for this method, but going on those results, I suppose it warrants further inspection.

[Red Nickels]

I have five more sets of 75 consecutive spins from real wheels.   I will post the second set here for now in case you want to check it out.   still going over the first set. . .

30
10
25
23
22
6
31
24
18
0
25
22
26
0
9
23
34
3
34
25
22
20
4
24
35
3
0
7
14
34
6
4
29
27
3
26
12
35
3
10
30
7
35
  00
15
34
32
33
4
4
1
14
24
8
21
24
24
15
36
30
  00
18
12
30
9
9
32
33
28
34
18
  00
27
24

[Red Nickels]

going back to first set it seems I have another win (I have the numbers in a spreadsheet showing spin numbers 1 through 75 with the outcomes in another column, which would make it easier to explain, but they get jumbled when I try and paste them here.)  anyway we had these numbers 33 21 15 24 35 28 11 32 4 3 21 and won on the 21, then I looked back starting at the 3, took out 3 and 8 and 4 and 7, leaves 0-1-2-5-6-9-10 in that set to bet on (and I suppose 00) and after the 3 we got 21 35 17 8 2 so won on the 2 ($5 anyway.)  think I'm doing this right (?)  again, no clue why this would work but it's interesting that someone would come up with this for whatever reasons... will contiinue to test... (at least it's flat bet which is always good)... later...........

[Red Nickels]

hmmm... looks like another win eight spins after the hit on the 2...  after the 2 we get 26 11 28, maybe I am not supposed to use this set again (?) but it is easy to see with the 26 and 28 if I am doing this right we can eliminate 26 25 and 28 23 which leaves 21 22 24 27 29 30 to bet and after 28 we get 15 14 4 14 27 so we win six units when 27 hits.  hmmm, interesting, well I really gotta get back to the real world but will continue to look at this...  my little holy grail.... yeah I wish....

[sherminator]

Once you get used to it, you only really need to look through the numbers from a session to see if it would have shown a profit or not.
I have did an awful lot of testing over the last few years using 6 numbers as a base for looking at creating different kinds of methods, especially using RXextreme. What got me was seeing the sharp spikes going both up and down. Probability would dictate that you should be hitting 1 in 6. Unfortunately as we all know, this is roulette and weird and wonderful things happen, lol. THere are a periods of say 500-750 spins where the spike just continues to go downwards. Then you will often see a correction where if you were playing for them 500-750 spins, you would have made an absolute killing.

So the point I am making and especially regarding this system is that I don't necessarily think it is such a good idea to be just betting the 6 spins "blind" every time you get a qualifier. To be a long term winner at roulette, you really need to look into things a bit deeper than that and that is why I said in an earlier post that I thought this was a good starter concept, but it could definately be improved.

I think one way of doing that and this is just a suggestion, would be to introduce the law of the third into the equation.
For example, let's say you get wins on the 1st, 3rd, 5th and 6th spins of every betting opportunity, you may then just like to continue to play on these particular spins looking for continued wins and hoping the 2nd and 4th spin continue to be absent for a while.
You will amazed how long the winning runs can be using this kind of plan and it conserves your chips.
Once you hit a loss playing like this, you could then just track and look for a winner again before continuing in this fashion.

As an example, let's say you are just playing on spins 1,3,5,6 and you get the following win sequence.
1
1
3
5
5
3
6
2

The 2 has broken the winning run, but it would have paid for itself because of the chips you saved. Now the missing "win spins" would be 1 and 4.

However, because the last one was a loser, you may like to wait for a winner like I said before starting again because often the losses can come rapid fire just like ther winners can.

For example carying on, you might now see the following.

4 so this would also be a loser and now the 2 furthest back win spins are 1 and 5.

5 so now there has being three losers in a row. Now the 2 furthest back win spins are 1 and 3.

5 so this starts of the winning sequence again and now you can start betting again. you might see something like...

5
4
6
4
6
2
2

Everything in roulette seems to mostly happen in cycles and you need to be looking out for it and trying to take advantage, sure it is not an excact science and there are times when it can go choppy, however, there is nobody saying you have to bet every spin and it is my experience that a bit of good judgement and patience will nearly always pay off and boost your long term winnings.

[Red Nickels]

thanks for the input.  what do you do if a system does great (on a couple hundred spins) and there is no reason for it to?  this system does killer on my spins.  I know how to play it quickly now and feel like I would like to give it a go at the casino... where it will probably let me down.  but you should check out how amazingly well it does on the spins above (in reply 19.)  it is just hit after hit.

[gbubba]

Hi,
So I worked the solution to the 75 spins and you'd come out ahead around 90 bucks, however, I would suggest doing 5 spins per set. Most casinos pay 35 to 1 and if you did 6 spins you'd be losing a dollar. With 5 you break even. Not sure if this skews the results? Also, the easiest way to get your 6 numbers is to take two of the numbers in a range (not in the 30's) and "reduce" those.

(e.g 13, 4, 34, 32, 26, 31, 2)
Take the 4 and 2 and reduce. The reason is that each group has 10 numbers 1-10, 11-20, 21-30 and all you are looking to do is cut 4

Hope this helps.