Propgression needed for play on all ECs at the same time.

[soggett]

could you explain +1/-1 to me please, are you talking about 1 up on a loss and 1 down on a win?

Like Tamino said, every EC has it's own progress therefor it's own progression
I tested R/B each on their own with +1 / -1 in cycles of 5 spins ( I took that from Flat_ino )
so 5 spins if in minus +1, if in plus -1
very easy, but with long streaks may go down quick
maybe that will help you a bit

[Tamino]

soggett

I said This is based upon the up and pull/regression  MM system.I did not mention the  word progresssion at all.

There is more to  this  method . One  should  know when  to put one  of the  EC on  the  backburner and only  2  or for that matter  only one  remains in action.

There is  also a  time when to resume   betting  a sidelined EC and when   to finally  eliminate  a  particular EC  during the course of the session.

The casinos hate this method. We are constantly in control.

Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[malcop]

Playing  3  EC at the same time they  should be in competition with each other .According to  a certain  method each    EC should be   played on its own performance..

As an example  on LOW  might be   1  unit, on Black 3 units and on Even 2 units. This  might  might change with every subsequent Win or  loss.

It is  not as screwy  as it sounds. This is based upon the up and pull/regression  MM system.

One of the best performing methods I have ever applied
This is a PROVEN method played by professional gamblers.

Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

I fully agree, it is best to play each EC with it's own progression.

[soggett]

soggett

I said This is based upon the up and pull/regression  MM system.I did not mention the  word progresssion at all.

There is more to  this  method . One  should  know when  to put one  of the  EC on  the  backburner and only  2  or for that matter  only one  remains in action.

There is  also a  time when to resume   betting  a sidelined EC and when   to finally  eliminate  a  particular EC  during the course of the session.

The casinos hate this method. We are constantly in control.

Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

English is not my first language so maybe I sounded wrong
I agreed with you and think that each EC should be treated separately
so if you use a progression use one for each EC
I agree with everything else you said too

[Tamino]

That`s  correct . But if one  of the  EC  reaches betting  5 units ( this  could  amount to  25Dollars) with a win  then regress to 1 unit and  start again with   the  up  and pull method until the first loss  of  thar particulae EC At that time   you should have realized a  good return with that EC.

At your discretion keep playing the other 2 EC until it is time  to fold either with a win  or a stop-loss.

[GLC]

Malcop,

Sorry I haven't responded to your request, but I didn't have anything that's really innovative to suggest.  E.C. progressions are posted all over the Money Management section.

In my topic on ROL vs BEH I bet on all 3 e.c.'s at once and I find the boffins bet is very good.  Maybe no better than just a straight D'Alembert or a capped martingale.  The boffins bet does require undivided attention because you have to keep track of whether your bet is the 1st half or 2nd half of a parlay.

But just for you and to try to make up for leaving you hanging in the breeze, I'm going to "step up" with a little progression you might like.

Before I go further, I want to put in my two cents worth for a separate bet line for each e.c.

This is based on the penthouse bet method.  A normal line for e.c.'s is 1122334455 etc...  We move 1 step to the right on a loss and 1 step to the left on a win.  That's just another way to track D'Alembert.

I suggest that we add a tad bit more aggressiveness.  We still move 1 step to the right on a loss, but on a win we only move 1 step to the left if we are on the 2nd number of that pair.  We don't move to a smaller bet size unless we win 2 times in a row.  Then we move 1 step to the left after the second win even if we drop to a smaller level.

Example:
LWLLLWLLLWWLLWWW  I will play out this W/L sequence.

-1    -1   Move 1 step to the right
+1    0   Move 1 step to the left
-1    -1   Move 1 step to the right
-1    -2   Move 1 step to the right
-2    -4   Move 1 step to the right
+2   -2   Since this is the 2nd 2 we can move 1 step to the left
-2    -4   Move 1 step to the right
-2    -6   Move 1 step to the right
-3    -9   Move 1 step to the right
+3   -6   Since this is the 2nd 3 we can move 1 step to the left
+3   -3   Since this is the 2nd win in a row we can move 1 step to the left and drop down to the 2 level.
+2   -1   We won and it's the 2nd 2 so we can move 1 step to the left.
-2    -3   We move 1 step to the right.
-2    -5   We  move 1 step to the right.
+3   -2   Since this is the 1st 3, we don't move to the left because it would drop us to the 2 unit level and this isn't our 2nd win in a row.
+3   +1  This is our 2nd win in a row so we can move 1 step to the left.
+2   +3  This is the 2nd 2 so we can move 1 step to the left. 

Note that we can only cross a level barrier on even number wins.  That means if we are betting our 1st 3 and win, we don't move to the left because it crosses a level barrier and drops us down to 2.  We must be on an even number of wins to drop to a lower level.

This adds just a little more aggressiveness without adding too much more volatility.

Also, we can stretch our line to 111222333444etc... for less aggressiveness.  When we do this, we have to win 3 times in a row before we can drop to a lower bet level.

This new concept works especially well on single dozens.  I will start a new topic under Money Management presenting this concept.

Best of Luck, MC

GLC

[Tamino]

To summarize  my previous posts . The method I explained  does NOT   recommend any NEGATIVE progressions. Those , ,like the martingale   are for  amateurs.


REGRESSION is the  keyword and a path to  winnings..

Real pros  know  when  to leave  a table. Amateurs  attempt to win   money back.  Negative progressions  are  a bottomless pit.


Tamino.

[malcop]

To summarize  my previous posts . The method I explained  does NOT   recommend any NEGATIVE progressions. Those , ,like the martingale   are for  amateurs.


REGRESSION is the  keyword and a path to  winnings..

Real pros  know  when  to leave  a table. Amateurs  attempt to win   money back.  Negative progressions  are  a bottomless pit.


Tamino.

Could you please give me a working example of your REGRESSION idea?

[malcop]

GLC,

Thanks I will look into your progression idea.

Thanks

malcop

[Tamino]

***Could you please give me a working example of your REGRESSION idea?******

The  up and pull regression system is not an idea but  a long established method deployed  by knowlegeable   pro an semi pro roulette players .

It is not  at my discretion toi reveal any  further details of this method. I have given enough hints  already .

Tamino.

[malcop]

OK Thanks, found info on MR JP.

[Tamino]

OK Thanks, found info on MR JP.

You found the  source Congrats.
I am a frequent poster at his message board.

Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[vladir]

OK Thanks, found info on MR JP.

I'm sorry for the ignorance, what is MR JP ?

[dino246]

Regarding the Pull/Regression concept it might be worth checking out the WINN-MAXX website and investigate the CONQUEST system.
Has anyone purchased this from them as it costs a whopping 165 Euros !!
They claim from all the thousands of spins the largest drawdown = 17 units.

Good LUCK to all today with Roulette AND the Footy !!

Dino.

[Tamino]

Since a source for the Up & Pull/Regression method has been mentioned I find myself justified to mention where to obtain a copy of a book  with this particular method.

In the USA it is  available  at     JOHNPATRICK.com
The title of this book: " So You Wanna Be  a Gambler" Advanced Roulette by John Patrick.     402 pages , US $ 19.95

TAMINO
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!