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What is the point to searching for a Working System?

Started by Proofreaders2000, Aug 08, 11:15 PM 2012

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TwoCatSam

**********I was testing wheel bias in several online wheels: BetVoyager American wheel,********

Does Bet Voyager have a real wheel?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

ego

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Aug 08, 11:15 PM 2012
I'm a bit divided on this.  Here we have these forums to discuss roulette and possible ways to make a profit from methods.  Just recently I had two members of this forum make a reference to Voodoo and Nostradamus.  Question is, is all of this discussion futile (even the VB talk) even if you achieve some success in finding working systems?

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I have never seen or read about a working roulette system at any roulette forum.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

QuoteI was testing wheel bias in several online wheels: BetVoyager American wheel, Dublinbet Palace wheels 1 & 2 and Dublinbet wheels 1 & 2.  Within a sector of say 10 neighbors, I would record the most hitting numbers and trying to exploit that phenomenon.

You did not search for a wheel with bias you search for hot numbers.
I know bias and it takes allot more then collecting numbers to spot one.

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Proofreaders2000

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Aug 14, 09:35 AM 2012
**********I was testing wheel bias in several online wheels: BetVoyager American wheel,********

Does Bet Voyager have a real wheel?

Sam

I meant BetPhoenix Sportsbook (Live American Wheel)

TwoCatSam

Proof

What is the minimum single-number bet at Bet Phoenix?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Proofreaders2000

(BetPhoenix) for single numbers $1---but you have to make at least $5 total bet/spin on inside numbers

TwoCatSam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: ego on Aug 14, 09:50 AM 2012
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I have never seen or read about a working roulette system at any roulette forum.


--Couse you don't read all as assured of your claim.--btw-are you playing roulette
  at all, or you only study it as a hoby.Some here claim that are winning constantly
with your E/C approaches.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

ego

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Aug 14, 01:44 PM 2012

--Couse you don't read all as assured of your claim.--by the way-are you playing roulette
  at all, or you only study it as a hoby.Some here claim that are winning constantly
with your E/C approaches.

The truth is simple i can not read them all and yes i play roulette - but not as regular as others.
Yes roulette is a hobby and i spend 6K and got my self my own wheel - that is how i learn the game.

If any one have success i am happy for them.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Skakus

Quote from: turnerfeck on Aug 10, 08:13 AM 2012
I studied chess for 25 years. i enjoyed the study more than playing. When I lost, I bought a new book..studied a new opening. In the end I loved chess...not winning at chess. i was happiest after a loss. I could regroup and study again.

I love chess too. In fact every time I get a good win from roulette I spend some or all of the money on another chess set or board or clock, but mostly sets.

I have about 50 sets now, Ivory Stauntons, Jaques stauntons, one Ivory Lund with 4 1/2" kings (its a beauty), a special 5" king St. George set, A superb antique WMF silver plated staunton style set, bone sets, horn sets, bakelite sets, metal sets, tagua nut set, modernist plexiglass set, chinese, burmese, indian, mexican,  novelty, nuts & bolts, so many sets and almost all bought with roulette winnings.  :) 
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Proofreaders2000

I would love if the Forum could get to the point where someone could say (I remember a user named Poit did this a year or so ago).  "I've been doing analysis of Roulette #1 @ Dublinbet and (a particular secton *don't remember exactly*) would have profited us +4000 over three months if we bet $1 per number"---that some users would take a serious look at the online wheels availiable and see overall what is hitting (and what isn't).

Skakus

What is the point?

You said yourself that this type of bias is temporary or could be changed/removed by casinos. All bias is probably temporary by the way.

But seeing as you mentioned it, over the last few years I have been keeping an eye on Dublinbet #1. I believe the 17.34.6 section repeats a bit better than average. I haven't done any conclusive testing or monitoring, but when I'm playing and I see 17 or 34 or 6 hit, I sometimes bet that section and will continue to bet that section until they all drop off the marquee (10 spins minimum).

Check it out over a period of time and let us know if there is any advantage to be had.

Cheers.



A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Proofreaders2000

"Check it out over a period of time and let us know if there is any advantage to be had."---Skakus

I don't have the tools.  However, I'm sure someone here has the tools and the spins to make a comprehensive assessment.

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