Spider Web Theory

[Nickmsi]

 

MOP recently posted a system called Surround and it reminded me of the Spider Web system I wrote a while back.


This is one of the first system that allowed me to look a random in a different way.  Usually I was chasing random to repeat a number, to awake a number, to match a pattern, to be due and all the other so called Gambler's Fallacies.


I thought, why not stop chasing random and let random come to me.  Be like a spider web and cover the felt and let the random flies get caught wherever they land.  Similar to the Rain Drop and Chaos theories.


The Spider Web Theory cover 100% of the board as follows:


.1 Unit on Dozen # 1
.1 Unit on Dozen # 3
.1 Unit on Column A
.1 Unit on Column C
.06 Unit on Split 14-17
.06 Unit on Split 20-23
.03 Unit on Zero


That's it.  Same bet every time, only the Bet Amount might change.


You will usually win in first few spins.  Maximum spins is 18 per session, if you reach 18 you will probably have a big loss.


The key to this system is the variable amount that is bet each time.


I have a default progression built into this but feel free to test other ones as well.


This thing wins like crazy, but beware of the RFH, it is out there and use your Stop Loss wisely.


Enjoy . . .


Nick

[Master_of_pockets]

MOP recently posted a system called Surround and it reminded me of the Spider Web system I wrote a while back.


This is one of the first system that allowed me to look a random in a different way.  Usually I was chasing random to repeat a number, to awake a number, to match a pattern, to be due and all the other so called Gambler's Fallacies.


I thought, why not stop chasing random and let random come to me.  Be like a spider web and cover the felt and let the random flies get caught wherever they land.  Similar to the Rain Drop and Chaos theories.

exactly mate...this was my thinking too then i made the surround


The Spider Web Theory cover 100% of the board as follows:


.1 Unit on Dozen # 1
.1 Unit on Dozen # 3
.1 Unit on Column A
.1 Unit on Column C
.06 Unit on Split 14-17
.06 Unit on Split 20-23
.03 Unit on Zero


That's it.  Same bet every time, only the Bet Amount might change.


You will usually win in first few spins.  Maximum spins is 18 per session, if you reach 18 you will probably have a big loss.


The key to this system is the variable amount that is bet each time.

this is what I thought too...but doesn't produce long run profits..this is why I abandon it

I have a default progression built into this but feel free to test other ones as well.


This thing wins like crazy, but beware of the RFH, it is out there and use your stop-loss wisely.


Enjoy . . .


Nick

Thanks for posting it mate

[amk]

I think its beautiful Nickmsi.


It might have taken months or years for me to see this betting pattern/web on the table. I still do not understand it fully but wanted to post as it is very artistic which could be important when facing random (??)


Could you tell us more about why the specific web works so well?
How did you discover this web?
How does the web look when it is catching random??

[Nickmsi]

 Hi AMK . . .


The Spider Web Theory is really an amalgamation of many things that I learned on this forum.


When I first started on this journey, I thought it would be so easy to figure out a system that can beat a 50/50 odds (less house edge).  How hard can that be?  Just bet Red and if it loses,  simply double up until you win.  Bam. . .  Bam . . .game over, easy peasy.


Well was I in for a rude awakening.  I did not know there was something called Table Limits.  Well, what else didn't I know . . . and that started the trek.


After learning what does NOT work, I started to see potential areas that might work.  I learned about differential betting with Colby (Colbster), about short cycles (hit N run) from John Legend, about not testing a trillion spins from Ivica (Flat),  the potential for sequences from Ego and Alberto Jonas, the power of bots and data generated there from by Neal (Superman) and most recently, the potential of playing multiple systems in short cycles from Sam (TwoCat Sam) and much much more.


Some food for thought.  Perhaps we should be playing several systems for small rewards.  For example, we could play Spider Web till we win 5 units, play 6 Shot Repeater for 5 units, play TwoCatSam's 5 Shot Repeater for 5 wins, play D & C, etc.  You get the idea.  It will sure confuse the hell out of any Casino's that might be tracking your playing patterns.  It seems to be working for John Legend.


Anyways, I am rambling, a senior citizens prerogative, hope you enjoy the Spider Web.  Just press F9 100 times and you probably will win 100 times but eventually you will hit the RFH, but in the meantime, have fun.


Nick

[amk]

Nick,


Could you show some examples of playing or testing?


With units in the plus, minus etc, something like atlantis would post.


Thanks

[Master_of_pockets]

"""For example, we could play Spider Web till we win 5 units, play 6 Shot Repeater for 5 units, play TwoCatSam's 5 Shot Repeater for 5 wins, play D & C, etc"""

Hehehe. And what will be happening when we can t make +5(or so) units...what will be the stop loss?
Unfortuatately this isn t a winning way...

when a system can t produce long run winnings it sure means that its still under the -2.7...and as this is happening it means that all the beting of the system is just random...
So by playing 3-4 systems that are betting randomly(without any better accurasy than the 2,7) then the loss is sure to happen in the long run or in the short run...the luck will decide that.

[amk]

Nick,


Could you explain more about SWT please.


How do we win on first bets placed?


How does everything work?

[Nickmsi]

Be glad to AMK, however, I have to run, will do so tomorrow.

Also, I noticed there is a bug in the Manual version and I will fix that as well.

Nick

[Nickmsi]

 Hi AMK . . .
It is very easy to use this tracker. Download the Manual Version 2.0 as their was a bug in the earlier version.
The bet is always the same, just the amount differs. (Differential Betting).


Example of a Win:


1.  Place your first bet as shown in Spin 1 (row 5-denoted by Blue Color).


     .10 Doz# 1   .10 Doz# 2  .10 Col A .10 Col C  .03  Zero   .06 Split 14-17  .06 Split 20-23


2.  Spin the wheel and enter the number spun in Spin # 1.


If the number spun is a 36, you will see you made a profit of .05 which is your Profit Target so start a new session (Simply delete the #36 from spin #1)


Example of a Loss:


1.  Place your first bet as shown in Spin 1 (row 5-denoted by Blue Color).


     .10 Doz# 1   .10 Doz# 2  .10 Col A .10 Col C  .03  Zero   .06 Split 14-17  .06 Split 20-23


2.  Spin the wheel and enter the number spun in Spin # 1.


If the number spun is a 8, you will see a loss of .25.


3.  Place your second bet as shown in Spin # 2.


.29Doz# 1   .29 Doz# 2  .29 Col A  .29 Col C  .05  Zero   .10 Split 14-17  .10 Split 20-23


4.  Spin the wheel and enter the number spun in Spin # 2.


If the number spun was a 1, you will see a loss of .35.


5.  Place your third bet as shown in Spin # 3.


.61 Doz# 1   .61 Doz# 2  .61 Col A  .61 Col C  .11  Zero   .21 Split 14-17  .21 Split 20-23


6.  Spin the wheel and enter the number spun in Spin # 3.


If the number spun was a 14, you will see a profit of .53 which exceeds your Profit Target so start a new session (Simple delete the numbers you entered in Spin #1 through Spin #3)




In a nutshell, Bet the Amounts shown and enter the number spun.


Hope this helps and remember, this system can win 100's of times in a row, but be wary of the RFH.


Nick

[Roughy]

Hi AMK . . .


The Spider Web Theory is really an amalgamation of many things that I learned on this forum.


When I first started on this journey, I thought it would be so easy to figure out a system that can beat a 50/50 odds (less house edge).  How hard can that be?  Just bet Red and if it loses,  simply double up until you win.  Bam. . .  Bam . . .game over, easy peasy.


Well was I in for a rude awakening.  I did not know there was something called Table Limits.  Well, what else didn't I know . . . and that started the trek.


After learning what does NOT work, I started to see potential areas that might work.  I learned about differential betting with Colby (Colbster), about short cycles (hit N run) from John Legend, about not testing a trillion spins from Ivica (Flat),  the potential for sequences from Ego and Alberto Jonas, the power of bots and data generated there from by Neal (Superman) and most recently, the potential of playing multiple systems in short cycles from Sam (TwoCat Sam) and much much more.


Some food for thought.  Perhaps we should be playing several systems for small rewards.  For example, we could play Spider Web till we win 5 units, play 6 Shot Repeater for 5 units, play TwoCatSam's 5 Shot Repeater for 5 wins, play D & C, etc.  You get the idea.  It will sure confuse the hell out of any Casino's that might be tracking your playing patterns.  It seems to be working for John Legend.


Anyways, I am rambling, a senior citizens prerogative, hope you enjoy the Spider Web.  Just press F9 100 times and you probably will win 100 times but eventually you will hit the RFH, but in the meantime, have fun.


Nick

Haven't even looked at this method yet but just want to say I agree with Nick. Started out thinking I was going to be in the lap of luxury forever as i had found this great roulette method, just double up on a loss - after all, it can't possibly hit more than 5 or six blacks in a row, can it!? 

Then you start to read and learn, read and learn, and read some more. And hopefully we can come up with something that at least keeps us in the black, as it were! 

And I'm not a senior citizen just yet, but can still ramble...

[shazwad]

is there a stop loss for this?  what is likely to be the loss after the rfh of 18 spins?

[Nickmsi]

Hi Shazwad . . .

The Stop Loss can be tailored to your needs and the Casino's Table Limits.

Most Casino's with .01 bet amounts will have 100.00 Table Limit.  I think it is only 20.00 for BVNZ.

So if and when you hit a 100.00 bet amount, that will be your loss and who knows what that might be.

However, if some of my earlier tests, I saw an 18 spin no win RFH and the loss was around 1,500.00 but I do not recall if it exceeded the table limits before the 18 th spin.


This is something you can easily test on the RNG version, simply press F9 until your finger gets tired and see if you can get the RFH and see the amount and if it exceeded the table limits.

Remember, this is nothing more than a tool to check out what you can do with systems that cover  100% of the felt. 

You can also enter whatever Stop Loss or Profit Target you want and test out the results.

All systems will fail in the long run, but as Ivica (Flat) says, we don't play trillions of spins, only 300 or so per session.

Cheers . . .

Nick

[robbsdan]

hi guys, ive been trying this spiderweb method (10 on 1st &3rd Dozen and on 1st and 3rd column,  6 1/4 split on 14&17-20&23 so 3 on each 1/4) and also 3 on 0&2 split but it seems that im down over the long run.. i manage to creep up a little but once it his an 5/8/11 or 26/29/32/25 im in the negative..
any ideas or advice???
thanks
new to this roulette forum