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Started by Johnlegend, Sep 19, 03:43 PM 2012

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superman

QuoteI'm assuming Superman has already put this in a bot

Nope not yet, will get around to it but currently I closed my BV account so JLs' challenge account could be opened (a sacrifice I had to make sadly), having 2 BV accounts is a no no so don't really have the need for the method yet, maybe on the weekend I'll fiddle a bit.

QuoteKom Superman - wys jou muis!

Geen kaas nie, hy kry honger
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Johnlegend

Quote from: GLC on Sep 20, 12:23 AM 2012
Sam, I'm gong to venture some thoughts below.  I hope they're on track.
 
Sam,  I think this is what JL is saying.  Another way to show it is the following:
123231232312323123231232312323123231232312323123231.  This is what we're betting against happening.  The 4 red 1's is where we bet on dozens 2 and 3.  The 1st red 1 we bet 1-1 on doz 2 & 3, the 2nd red 1 we bet 3-3, the 3rd red 1 we bet 9-9 and the 4th red 1 we bet 27-27. 

Now, I may not have all the factors involved in the above description, but I think that is the basic idea we're playing against.  As you can see, the odds of random throwing that pattern at us is pretty darn rare.


I think it can take a very long time between betting opportunities.  I don't doubt for a second that this has a very high strike rate.  I just don't know if I have enough years of life left to get a 100 wins before sailing off into the wild blue yonder.   :LoL:  It's a joke JL, kind a. Hehehe, LoL etc....

I could be off base, but maybe I included enough explanation that JL can clean it up for us without having to start from scratch.

Back to you JL,

GLC
I've never had this much trouble explaining a method GLC. I will try several ways to illustrate what is very simplistic once you grasp it. So here is a game with just numbers to see if this will do it for more members

3-36-26-26-3-Z-15-19-1-3-28-27-28-4-24-3-11-23-26-19-6-27-6-12-8-29-12-20-3-15-11-27

DOZEN 1
4
4-----GAME TRIGGER DOUBLE 4 GAP
4
4

DOZEN 2
7
8

DOZEN 3
7
6
4---PRE BET TRIGGER
6----WIN BET 1 as it went beyond 4.

This is the result of a real game I played today against BV RNG As you can see it didn't take that many spins in this case 32 spins. From start to finish. Study this example over and over against the breakdowns of each dozen. And most of you should then understand it.

Another interesting observation since I created this method. No single DOZEN has ever shown me more than 6 consecutive 4 gaps in a row. As you can see that game produced 4 in a row for Dozen 1. The next gap was a 7. FOOD FOR THOUGHT? ??? ? I think so....

Nickmsi

One more clarification and I think I got it to prepare a Tracker:

"3-36-26-26-3-Z-15-19-1-3-28-27-28-4-24-3-11-23-26-19-6-27-6-12-8-29-12-20-3-15-11-27

DOZEN 1
4
4-----GAME TRIGGER DOUBLE 4 GAP
4
4

DOZEN 2
7
8

DOZEN 3
7
6
4---PRE BET TRIGGER
6----WIN BET 1 as it went beyond 4. "

The numbers for the 4 Gap Pre Bet Trigger for Dozen 3 is shown in Red.

We should now start betting on Dozen 1 and Dozen 2 but where do we start this bet?
Do we start it immediately after the 4 Gap Pre Bet Trigger is formed, ie. on the #12 spin?
Or do we wait 4 more spins and start betting on the end of the gap, ie the #15, or the #11 spin?

Thanks  Nick
Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

Twisteruk

Sorry JL I just dont get it

Its me not you so dont worry, im sure most ppl wil get it and thats what matters


Cheers
Its Set In Stone =)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Nickmsi on Sep 20, 02:49 PM 2012
One more clarification and I think I got it to prepare a Tracker:

"3-36-26-26-3-Z-15-19-1-3-28-27-28-4-24-3-11-23-26-19-6-27-6-12-8-29-12-20-3-15-11-27

DOZEN 1
4
4-----GAME TRIGGER DOUBLE 4 GAP
4
4

DOZEN 2
7
8

DOZEN 3
7
6
4---PRE BET TRIGGER
6----WIN BET 1 as it went beyond 4. "

The numbers for the 4 Gap Pre Bet Trigger for Dozen 3 is shown in Red.

We should now start betting on Dozen 1 and Dozen 2 but where do we start this bet?
Do we start it immediately after the 4 Gap Pre Bet Trigger is formed, ie. on the #12 spin?
Or do we wait 4 more spins and start betting on the end of the gap, ie the #15, or the #11 spin?

Thanks  Nick
We start the bet as soon as DOZEN 3 produces a 3 gap. So using the example of the real game I played. Immediately after the 4 Gap Pre Bet Trigger. you had...

29-12-20-3----On the next spin we bet AGAINST another 4 GAP forming. Therefore we bet on dozen 1 and dozen 2. And as you can see in that real game example. It won when number 15 hit and eventually became a 6 GAP once number 27 hit.

Johnlegend

Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 20, 02:55 PM 2012
Sorry JL I just don't get it

Its me not you so don't worry, I'm sure most people wil get it and that's what matters


Cheers
Twister don't worry. Its simple but new thinking for many. The thing is its not that different to Matrix vertical 5. Where we were betting against 5 consecutive 5 gaps forming. In this case we are betting against 5 consecutive double 4 gaps forming. Its not going to be for everyone. But what I can tell you is whether it takes you a week or a year to understand it. This thing has the game beat. And any fair RNG too.

donik7777

Hello John!
What about your method ZONE maybe we understand FIVE easier?
Greetings.

Johnlegend

Quote from: donik7777 on Sep 20, 03:11 PM 2012
Hello John!
What about your method ZONE maybe we understand FIVE easier?
Greetings.
Nobody liked the Zone Donik. FIVE is IT. For me, its my best method I have originated by a country mile. Probably fitting few grasp it. What I'm saying to ALL of you. Is whether it takes you a week or a year to understand it. UNDERSTAND IT. Because as you will see over time. This thing has this game beaten hands down.

F_LAT_INO

One question John...how many bets aprox.in a night session.....live dealer....
one can expect....didn't grasp it as yet fully,but as soon I get
the unswer will.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

Johnlegend

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 20, 03:38 PM 2012
One question John...how many bets aprox.in a night session.....live dealer....
one can expect....didn't grasp it as yet fully,but as soon I get
the answer will.
I can't say Flat. It depends on how many tables you have to play at. It can't be rushed. An average game takes about 30---60 spins to complete. This method is better suited to RNGs. I think its the anwser to beating them as long as they are fair. BV is certainly fair. Its breakdowns are identical to live wheels and Bayes RNG. And that is all I need to find out. The only RNG I have yet to put FIVE against is the seemingly notorious playtech RNGs, such as Ladbrokes and BET365 and the stand alone machines found in UK bookmakers like William Hill.. If they really do CHEAT. Five will expose them in a hurry.

Live online and BV it will be winning and more winning overall.

F_LAT_INO

Kindly thanks for quick unswer...and now let strip this baby.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

Johnlegend

Quote from: superman on Sep 20, 01:58 PM 2012

Nope not yet, will get around to it but currently I closed my BV account so JLs' challenge account could be opened (a sacrifice I had to make sadly), having 2 BV accounts is a no no so don't really have the need for the method yet, maybe on the weekend I'll fiddle a bit.
 
Geen kaas nie, hy kry honger
Its Appreciated Superman your investment will come back to you many times over. Over the coming years. Once I reach 3 figures I will really step it up. And by that point many people will realize. The games very beatable. Whether it takes 1,2,3,4,5,6 however many years for this to sink in. I am ready to show them all.

superman

Some data for anyone interested, ok its a bit hard to explain but here goes. The attached file has run through about 303 RNG BV NZ Real Money spins, each spin prints out the following data.

DA 1|3|0|4
DB 0|1|10
DC 3|0|2|0|0|0|1
#######################

The running results of each dozen and a seperator #####etc, let's look at DA (dozen a 1- 12)

1 is oldest and 4 is the last size of gap so dozen A slept 1 then 3 then 0 then 4 times, as you will see if you download the file I add the latest sleep to the right as and when the sleep has ended, any questions, I'll ask my dog as I can't be bothered going through all those lines LOL from the file you will be able to see the triggers or lack of them, maybe best to just scroll to the end of the file and look at the last 3 lines, as I said this was only 303 spins.

QuoteKindly thanks for quick answer...and now let strip this baby.

F_Lat, welcome to the world of RNG hope you enjoy your visit! I think if you are planning on playing this IN a casino, take food, water and a sleeping bag, you may be there for a while.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Johnlegend

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 20, 04:02 PM 2012
Kindly thanks for quick answer...and now let strip this baby.
Like the terminology Flat. Never thought Id see the day the great F_LAT_INO would play my game. Im honoured. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Johnlegend

Quote from: superman on Sep 20, 04:23 PM 2012
Some data for anyone interested, ok its a bit hard to explain but here goes. The attached file has run through about 303 RNG BV NZ Real Money spins, each spin prints out the following data.

DA 1|3|0|4
DB 0|1|10
DC 3|0|2|0|0|0|1
#######################

The running results of each dozen and a seperator #####etc, let's look at DA (dozen a 1- 12)

1 is oldest and 4 is the last size of gap so dozen A slept 1 then 3 then 0 then 4 times, as you will see if you download the file I add the latest sleep to the right as and when the sleep has ended, any questions, I'll ask my dog as I can't be bothered going through all those lines LoL from the file you will be able to see the triggers or lack of them, maybe best to just scroll to the end of the file and look at the last 3 lines, as I said this was only 303 spins.
 
F_Lat, welcome to the world of RNG hope you enjoy your visit! I think if you are planning on playing this IN a casino, take food, water and a sleeping bag, you may be there for a while.
Yes this method isnt best suited for B&M play. Its the RNG beater. Unless its a cheater.

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