Philosophy of roulette -''how to confirm the current mind-set from experiences."

[Ron]

Hi everyone, i would like to draw your attention on '' how a perception/mind-set can be influenced from past experiences?'' I thought i could only focus on the current game on hand; can't ignore  but jump into the memories (e.g. reflecting on historical results) of past experiences associated to the numbers' tweaking. For instance, ''32'' shows up following by "8" or vice versa. Usually when i look at the monitor i find at least 3/4 common numbers (out of 20 no#s) that coincide with past results. But i get puzzled & miss valuable opportunities time to time. Have you had similar experiences? What could be the possible 'plan of action'. Please share. thanks.Rony

[TwoCatSam]

Rony

You have touched on a problem I have all the time.  I have learned to look at the anomalies briefly while keeping the focus of the game at hand.  It is hard to do.  On RNG, no.  You have plenty of time.

I find--playing Dublin--I will lapse into a relaxed state as there are several players at the table.  Then they are all gone and the dealer is spinning like a Dervish.  One must be prepared at all times.

I constantly talk to myself, telling myself exactly what I'm doing.  In two hours of play, I am mentally exhausted!

Sam

[Ron]

Thanks mate for the ''self-talk'' tip , yes it helps to keep the mind intact with the frame of plan in hand. Yes It's also refreshing to have a break every now & then. Cheers..

[TwoCatSam]

I just read your post in a one minute break.  Helps to know your system well enough to do this.

[Gizmotron]

Ron, I won't even attempt to play if I'm mentally fatigued in any way. When I play
it is critical to observe the current state of all the characteristics that are normally
found in each session.

[Ralph]

I have no problem. I can be in bad mental way, but as soon I start my game I feel good, it is a cure.

I have had bad feelings playing, not now, as I do not do so frequent stupid things since about 10 years.  I have a feeling playing, I can lose some today, but not so much I am minus, If that happen I point myself as an IDIOT.

If I got that situation, time will tell, but for a time of some years everthing in game is very well.

Its partly skill and H*ll of a luck.

[Turner]

Ron...
I suffer terribly with this. I cured my self by only playing systems that don't involve numbers.

By involving numbers I mean...31 allways follows 13, and when 2 hits bet 2,20,30....those kind of bets. Trouble is, when  2 comes up, and you are doing some other system , 20 will hit. "darn, I had that number" your head is messed up with too many numbers.

I had a set of them in my head. 8,11,13,22,28,31,36. If one of these numbers came up, I some how felt I had missed a win in some way...when i wasn't even playing them.

kicking your own ar.se and messing up the actual thing you were doing.

When I say systems that don't involve numbers, i mean systems where the numbers pattern decide.
like "bet on all the repeaters in the last 18" or "when the last number is a recent repeat, bet the number and either side on the wheel"
i.e. 19,2,33,17,16,2 (2 repeats) and bet 22,18,8 until a new number repeats.

What I have done is create a rule that can't be played any other way. A recent repeat is allways being played. any other number that comes up doesn't matter...the rule isnt playing that number.

Turner

[subby]

You both need to set 2 goals each time you play (If you play online)

Goal one (e.g...) "I need to win 2 units"
Goal two "I need to play ONLY 1 system.....for 2 wins then I log out......as I have to then go and do something else"

Make that "something else" something real so you actually go do it.

Approach it as a business with that mental laser sharpness of "I'm only going to do this and nothing else"

When playing that 1 system ONLY...have a mind of "this is step 1 of the system, nothing else matters"

Disregard other numbers spun outside your system as "other peoples wins...wait my turn...let other players have these wins" and your win is coming up next bet so the numbers being spun outside your bet aren't yours to worry about or even notice.

[TwoCatSam]

snubby

If anyone ever hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head with the proverbial hammer, you just did it.

Great post!

What else can I say?

Great post!!

Thanks.

Sam

[subby]

snubby

If anyone ever hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head with the proverbial hammer, you just did it.

Great post!

What else can I say?

Great post!!

Thanks.

Sam

If I can also add,

Disregard other numbers spun outside your system as "other peoples wins...wait my turn...let other players have these wins" and your win is coming up next bet so the numbers being spun outside your bet aren't yours to worry about or even notice.

Those other players "wins" for them to win there has to be a loser, make sure it's not you, stick to your own method and ignore numbers spun outside your bet as not relevant so don't bet on them.

[Ron]

Subby, sorry for the late reply. Have to admit that your 'plan of action' is awesome, and will genuinely work if one adds a proper budgeting plan along with the rules. Say i would dedicate 30% of my capital in each session but the bloody 'adrenaline rush' hampers it a big time.


thanks a lot again.


ron

You both need to set 2 goals each time you play (If you play online)

Goal one (e.g...) "I need to win 2 units"
Goal two "I need to play ONLY 1 system.....for 2 wins then I log out......as I have to then go and do something else"

Make that "something else" something real so you actually go do it.

Approach it as a business with that mental laser sharpness of "I'm only going to do this and nothing else"

When playing that 1 system ONLY...have a mind of "this is step 1 of the system, nothing else matters"

Disregard other numbers spun outside your system as "other peoples wins...wait my turn...let other players have these wins" and your win is coming up next bet so the numbers being spun outside your bet aren't yours to worry about or even notice.

[Ron]

Ron...
I suffer terribly with this. I cured my self by only playing systems that don't involve numbers.

By involving numbers I mean...31 allways follows 13, and when 2 hits bet 2,20,30....those kind of bets. Trouble is, when  2 comes up, and you are doing some other system , 20 will hit. "darn, I had that number" your head is messed up with too many numbers.

I had a set of them in my head. 8,11,13,22,28,31,36. If one of these numbers came up, I some how felt I had missed a win in some way...when i wasn't even playing them.

kicking your own ar.se and messing up the actual thing you were doing.

When I say systems that don't involve numbers, i mean systems where the numbers pattern decide.
like "bet on all the repeaters in the last 18" or "when the last number is a recent repeat, bet the number and either side on the wheel"
i.e. 19,2,33,17,16,2 (2 repeats) and bet 22,18,8 until a new number repeats.

What I have done is create a rule that can't be played any other way. A recent repeat is allways being played. any other number that comes up doesn't matter...the rule isnt playing that number.

Turner

Thanks turner, u right on the spot..so many times pulled my hair for the same mistakes..did it over and over  .. i guess there has to be a consistent gravity of a genuine or definite plan..but when u read the game intuitively the ego pops out & create havoc out of the whole plan..guessing/predictability prevails rather than the stepwise refinement of the pre-planned process..  at the end i believe roulette is a taste of character , and the old habit + greedy mentality are the biggest enemies of the character trend.


Thanks again


ron

[ugly bob]

  at the end i believe roulette is a taste of character ,

That is a good point. It is funny how a couple of quick losses can turn someone into a gambling maniac. The important thing to do is dust yourself down and go back to basics before you can lose a lot.


bob.

[subby]

I just had a loss today on Code 4 which was a total loss of 81 units

I had enough of a bankroll to let me go to teh 4 steps instead of playing steps 2, 3 and 4 only with step 1 as a non bet.

Losing that was a big blow and I ALMOST lost the head to go for a £25 unit step to try and recover fast....needless to say I didn't do it. Why or how might you ask? Well I've got a post it note on my screen that says

"If you lose, STOP what you're doing Paul (me), turn off the PC and take that aggression out on some poor sod online in Modern Warfare game instead"

I duly did...turned off the PC, turned on the Xbox and killed a few people online and ran about with a shotgun in the game shooting anything that moved.

That "change" of scenery stopped me doing something stupid and gave me a break away from betting to calm down and have a sensible head on again....ok it's a 81( actually 84 loss as I always put 3 units on Green zero as insurance) loss but overall I'm up over 800 units (£800) which in the grand scheme of things, is easier to take that loss 

[TwoCatSam]

Guys

snubby has hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial  head with the proverbial hammer!!

I sometimes put up a 3x5 card that says "YOU MAY NOT CHASE".   Other than actual mistakes, chasing a loss has hurt me more than anything in gambling.  It rarely works.  When it doesn't, I'm left with that sick feeling the the pit of my stomach from knowing I should have walked the dogs.

Since we're talking mindset and I have a few minutes...................

We (I at least) must be very careful what I hear from people.  I am easily programmed.  What?  You didn't know people program each other?  Ever see someone yawn and can't resist yawing yourself?  Even my dogs yawning will make me yawn.  I must test them to see if they can be programmed to yawn.  Maybe "TwoCat's Dogs"  will become as famous as Pavlov's.

Anyway, beware of what you hear--you might believe it!!

I've had people say, "Hey, you're really good!" and I think I'm really good and I pay for those thoughts.

"Hey, why are betting so little?"  Yep.  I up the bet and lose me arse.

And the worst thing?  My wife says, "OK, you can go play roulette now." Or, "Why don't you go play?"  When I hear that, I won't log on for two hours.  I'm destined to lose.  Probably because I have programmed myself to associate those statements with times she said them and I lost.

I am very careful when I read negative comments on this or any forum about my play.  When people say, "It can't be done.", I began to think just that.  If you know it can't be done, you darn sure can't do it.

Which reminds me of this story.  A college kid was late to math class.  Very late!  Before he had arrived the professor had written three unsolvable math problems on the board.  Kid wrote them down.  The next day he said to the professor, "Mr. Gonflable, I solved two of those homework problems your wrote on the board, but the third is going to take some time."

What if he'd been on time?

Samster the Philosopher