Betting against the "X" system. (Someone make a bot!)

[maestro]

ok sam here is thinking out the box....you have dozens commin for example....1,1,2,3,2,2,3,1   what you do is write down them like this...write firs one which is 1,right above you write second one 1,then 60 degree of second one you write third one and 60 degree of third one you write fourth one and then fifth one goes above where you wrote the second one and you keep signing them as they come .....then you can see how every branch of the star goes and make your own decision when and what to bet                                 
                            2
                            1
                           1                                 
                        3        2                                                                                                                         

[Tamino]

...................always the  same 
" think out of the box "message" if one  knows   it will not and can never work. Same cliche  plus add  that it`s played " All over the world"  to make   musical chairs more acceptable. 

Amateur hour at it`s finest.

[TwoCatSam]

It was tongue-in-cheek, people.  It was humor.

I said it was a spoof.  Must I explain further?

Good grief!!

Think about it!!

[Tomla021]

How do I get out of the box so I can start thinking about it?

[Tamino]

How do I get out of the box so I can start thinking about it?
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With that many posts under your belly  you should know by now what  is fact and what is  wishful  thinking.

[Gizmotron]

I don't believe in reading random.  I'd have to see it to believe it.  No offense.

Then look at this. Perhaps it will be easier to see if you know what to expect from it?

Nathan Detroit convinced me to make it simple. This is what I expect to see when I
read randomness. I have given sequences of spins meaningful characteristics.

1. I expect to see any characteristic occur.
2. These trends continue until they end.
3. These trends often come in groups of other similar traits.

I wonder Sam, if you can be taught to see at least see that much? Because just seeing
that much is only going half way.

[TwoCatSam]

Gizmotron and Nathan

This thread was meant to be a parody of sorts on how unrealistic it is to expect a pattern to form or not form.  I see people bet "Ts" on the layout all the time.  Or any other letter......

However, if there is something to be learned here, I will listen and study.

I'll give your last post lots of thought.  That's the best I can do.

Sam

[Gizmotron]

Sam, I could ask for no more than that at a discussion forum. I want to explore
the combination of a moving target combined with reading randomness. If
sleeping dozens were the moving target then a stretch of singles, including
all three groups in the dozens, these singles would be a great opportunity
to avoid a sleeping dozen. It happens. I believe that a four step grand
martingale used on when a sleeping dozen will occur, for an example, and
also using conditional randomness to decide exactly when to attempt it might
turn out to having interesting results.

[Tamino]

Tow Cat Sam

Just to clarify something.

Nathan Detroit ( aka Tamino)does not endorse any system  or method. During a discussion at another message  board he  hinted to Gizmo  just to keep the explanations very simple to avoid any misunderstandings.

Just like in this case  just concentrate on the dozens. I hope  I made myself perfectly clear.

Tamino aka Nathan Detroit

[Gizmotron]

A while back I explored a form of conditional trigger based dozens where the
trick was to use a fixed rule. It involved waiting after dozens stopped repeating.
On the outset it looks good. But it fails. I believe it fails because it uses a fixed
rule, a non-moving target.

[Gizmotron]

Sam, have you ever seen a sleeping dozen in a chart? Would you be able to
see one at a quick glance, in a single second or less?

There's an example of one in this thread:
link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=18732.msg136133#msg136133

[Gizmotron]

Sam, I did not tune in here just to curb your interest. Please tell me how to show you?

[TwoCatSam]

Sorry, I've been on Dublin playing the G.U.T.  Will have a look at that link you posted.

I'll be back...

Sam

[Gizmotron]

Sorry, I've been on Dublin playing the G.U.T.  Will have a look at that link you posted.

I'll be back...

Sam

Real play always take priority over discussion.

[Turner]

How do I get out of the box so I can start thinking about it?

Tom, do you know nothing? First you have to think inside the box and work out how to get out the box. When you are outside the box, start thinking. Its not rocking horse science!
Turner