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Bet selection that won't have huge losing streaks?

Started by Jordsie669, Dec 31, 06:03 AM 2012

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albertojonas

Quote from: Jordsie669 on Dec 31, 11:32 AM 2012
Now, I now what a cycle is (4 times same color in a row or RBRB, am I right?)
Now what does this mean?

RR
RR
RR
RR

RB
RB
RB
RB

BB
BB
BB
BB

BR
BR
BR
BR

And what/when do I have to bet after three losses, And do I have to spin without betting after 4 losses?  :-[


If you cluster outcomes in patterns of 2 you have four possible cases (each case, one side of the four sided dice)


RR
BB
RB
BR


And this is one cycle.


"This is the number of spins per cycle you should use:

- Even chance: 2 spins
- Dozen/Column: 3 spins
- Double-street: 6 spins.
- Corner/quad: 9 spins.
- Street: 12 spins.
- Split: 18 spins.

- Single number: 36 spins."


Hope this makes it more clear.
Cheers

ego


Thanks for the help Albertojonas, you are great.
Happy new year to you and your family.

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

albertojonas

Will try and post a session form today's randomization.


Random.org 100 spins 31/12/2012



b      
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
b   L   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   W
R   L   
R   L   
R   L   
b      
b      
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
R   L   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
R   L   
b   W   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   W
b   L   
b   L   
b   L   
R      
b      

ego

Quote from: albertojonas on Dec 31, 12:52 PM 2012
Will try and post a session form today's randomization.


Random.org 100 spins 31/12/2012



b     
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
b   L   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   b
R   L   b L
R   L   b L
R   L   R W
b
b     
b     


- - -

R   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
R   L   
b   W   
b   L   
b   L   
R   W   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
R   L   
b   W   
b   L   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
R   L   
b   W   
R   W   
b   W   R
b   L   b W
b   L   
b   L   
R   
b

I correct the endings.
After three loses you have one colour of the same four times.
Then the fifth outcome show what kind of clustering pattern you will play against at secound level.

R
R L
R L
R L

Now if you get Black then it looks like this.

RB
R
R
R

Then we have RB clustering pattern and would play against black for three times.
Prevent RB to repeat four times in a row.

If we hade the following with red we would play black so we did prevent RR to come four times in a row.

RR
R
R
R

Just to put some light on a small error by Albertojonas.

Same with four blacks.

BR
B
B
B

or

BB
B
B
B

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego


Here you can see the distribution during 300 trails from random org ...

2    1
2    1 L L
2    2 L W
2    1 L

1    2
2    2 W
1    2 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    1 L L
2    1 L L
2    2 L W

2    1
1    2 W
1    1 L W
1    2 L
1    1 L

1    2
1    2 L
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
1    2 L L
1    2 L L
1    1 L W

1    1
2    2 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    2 W
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    2 W
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    2 W
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    2 L
2    2 L
1    2 W
2    1 W
1    2 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
1    2 L
2    2 W
1    2 W
1    2 L
1    2 L
2    1 W
1    2 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
1    1 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
1    2 W
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    2 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    1 W
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    2 W
2    1 L
1    1 W
2    2 W
1    1 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    2 W
1    2 W
2    1 W
2    1 L
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    2 W
2    2 L
1    1 W
1    1 L
1    2 L
2    2 W
2    1 L
1    1 W
1    1 L
1    1 L
2    2 W
2    1 L W
2    1 L
2    1 L

2    2
2    1 L W
2    1 L
2    1 L

2    1
2    2 L
1    2 W
2    1 W
2    2 L
2    2 L
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
1    1 W
1    2 L
1    1 L
2    2 W
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    2 L
2    1 L
1    1 W
1    1 L
1    2 L
2    1 W
2    2 L
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    2 W
1    1 W
2    1 W
2    2 L
1    1 W
1    2 L W
1    2 L
1    1 L

1    2


Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Jordsie669

I still don't understand any of it  :P
a video would make it clear.
EDIT: I think i understand a bit now lemme investigate :P

ego


I will try to explain again.

Now i give you a coin.
The coin have two sides.

Throw the coin high up in the air and tell we wait side shows, Head or Tail ?

- Tail show.

T

- Ok thanks, then i bet head will show for next time you flip the coin.

- No i got Tail again.

T
T loss

- Ok thanks, then i bet head again, that it will show for the next time you flip the coin.

- No i got Tail again.

T
T loss
T loss

  - Ok thanks, then i bet head again, that it will show for the next time you flip the coin.

- No i got Tail again.

T
T loss
T loss
T loss

- Ok thanks, now i will wait and see what come next when you flip your coin.

- Ok i got Tail again.

T T
T
T
T

- Ok thanks, now i will bet Head for the next time you flip your coin.

- Ok i got Tail again.

T T
T T loss
T
T

- Ok thanks, now i will bet Head for the next time you flip your coin.

- Ok i got Tail again.

T T
T T loss
T T loss
T

- Ok thanks, now i will bet Head for the next time you flip your coin.

- Ok i got tail again.

T T
T T loss
T T loss
T T loss

- Ok thanks, now i will wait and see if you get Head or Tail when you flip your coin.

- Ok i got Head.

T T
T T
T T
T T
H

- Ok thanks, now i bet you will get Tail for the next time you flip the coin.

- Ok i got Head.

T T
T T
T T
T T
H
H  loss

- Ok thanks, now i bet Tail again for the next time you flip your coin.

- Ok i got Head.

T  T
T  T
T  T
T  T
H
H loss
H loss

- Ok thanks, now i bet Tail again for the next time you flip the coin.

- Ok i got Head.

T T
T T
T T
T T
H
H loss
H loss
H loss

- Ok thanks, now i wait and will see if you get Head or Tail when you flip your coin for the next time.

- Ok i got Tail.

T T
T T
T T
T T
H T
H
H
H

- Ok thanks, now i bet Head for the next time you flip your coin.

- Ok i got Tail.

T T
T T
T T
T T
H T
H T loss
H
H

- Ok thanks, now i bet Head again for the next time you flip your coin.

- Ok i got Tail.

T T
T T
T T
T T
H T
H T loss
H T loss
H

- Ok thanks, i bet Head again for the next time you flip your coin.

- Ok i got Tail.


T T
T T
T T
T T
H T
H T loss
H T loss
H T loss

Ok thanks, i quit.

Now what happend.
This happend.

You got a dice with four sides showing one number out of four for four times.
Lets say the dice have the numbers 1 2 3 4.
Now number one show four time during four throws 1 1 1 1.
And the number two show four time during the next four throws 2 2 2 2.

That is pretty rare and based upon valid math and probability.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Jordsie669

Okay thanks! But now theres only ONE more thing i don't get  ;D
If you have this:
T  T
T  T
T  T
T  T
H (loss)
H (loss)
H (loss)
T (win)
H (win)
T (win)
H (win)
H (loss)
H (loss)
H (loss) (3rd consecutive loss)

Now should I do "THIS" OR "THIS"?
T  T
T  T
T  T
T  T
H T
H
H
T
H
T
H T
H
H
H

And what do you do when 0 comes out?
Thanks again and I think I almost got it!
People like you keep this forum alive!
Cheers, Jordsie.

PS: I wouldn't say "Ok thanks" after 8 losses :P

ego



Each time you get four loses you lose three times in a row.

R
R L
R L
R L

or

B
B L
B L
B L

Then when this happens you wait for the next outcome to show with out betting or playing, you just observe.
Do you know why, i tell you why.

If you have ...

RB
R
R
R

And get black, then you have RB and would prevent to get that formation for four times in a row.
So you would bet Red.

But if you had ...

RR
R
R
R

Then you would have RR and play against that formation would repeat four times in a row.
So you would bet Black.

Think like this.
No matter if my betting end with three loses and i have a serie of four reds or four blacks.
I have to wait for one outcome to show me what kind of formation i should bet against for the next attack.

All experience players play as zero does not exist and accept the loss/drawdown.
So if zero show you continue to play the next outcome as it did not happen (repeat the same bet size)
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Jordsie669

I already understood that but after another 3 consecutive losses,
where should I continue the second column?
T  T
T  T
T  T
T  T
H T (HERE,)
H
H
T
H
T
H T (OR HERE?)
H
H
H

ego


Your question is wrong.
If you don't understand the dice and the math and probability, clustering patterns and formations.
Then is not much more i can do.

You should follow this 300 trails and see the betting and clustering and understand it all.


2    1
2    1 L L
2    2 L W
2    1 L

1    2
2    2 W
1    2 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    1 L L
2    1 L L
2    2 L W

2    1
1    2 W
1    1 L W
1    2 L
1    1 L

1    2
1    2 L
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
1    2 L L
1    2 L L
1    1 L W

1    1
2    2 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    2 W
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    2 W
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    2 W
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    2 L
2    2 L
1    2 W
2    1 W
1    2 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
1    2 L
2    2 W
1    2 W
1    2 L
1    2 L
2    1 W
1    2 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
1    1 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
1    2 W
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    2 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    1 W
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    2 W
2    1 L
1    1 W
2    2 W
1    1 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    2 W
1    2 W
2    1 W
2    1 L
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    2 W
2    2 L
1    1 W
1    1 L
1    2 L
2    2 W
2    1 L
1    1 W
1    1 L
1    1 L
2    2 W
2    1 L W
2    1 L
2    1 L

2    2
2    1 L W
2    1 L
2    1 L

2    1
2    2 L
1    2 W
2    1 W
2    2 L
2    2 L
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    1 W
1    1 W
1    2 L
1    1 L
2    2 W
1    2 W
1    1 L
2    1 W
2    2 L
2    1 L
1    1 W
1    1 L
1    2 L
2    1 W
2    2 L
2    1 L
1    2 W
2    1 W
2    1 L
1    1 W
1    2 L
2    2 W
1    1 W
2    1 W
2    2 L
1    1 W
1    2 L W
1    2 L
1    1 L

1    2

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego


soon 24 so happy new year, maybe i catch you all tomorrow 2013 ...

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Jordsie669

Quote from: ego on Dec 31, 05:15 PM 2012
Your question is wrong.
If you don't understand the dice and the math and probability, clustering patterns and formations.
Then is not much more i can do.

You should follow this 300 trails and see the betting and clustering and understand it all.

But I do understand it :(
I get all your explanation from the head and tail!
You only didn't mentioned where you should start in the second column again after a second 3 consecutive losing streak.

Happy New Year anyways and i'll look trough your 300 trails if i get it.

Jordsie669

I think I get it, is this right?
2
1    W
1    L
2    W
1    W
2    W
2    L
1 1 W
1 1 L  L
1 2 L  W
1 1 L  W

ego


2
1    W
1    L
2    W
1    W
2    W
2    L
1 1 W
1 1 L  L
1 2 L  W
1    L

1
2 W
1 W
1 L

That is right how i show it above.
Then you wait for a new outcome.

See my illustration again.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

-