"Giving Back"

[Azim]

Here is Azim again...

azim i do not get it....you say is good app so stick 60 in and make 30 profit,and so on i just do not get it ...since you done this topic till now you couldve have 1000...if is goooood
p.s i do not need your app...

I have 2-3 weeks to do this. I am on Holidays and this would be a nice X-Mas gift for you all.

I am having problems in setting up the site where you all can enter the number's and the calculations will give you the numbers to bet..

Some of the stuff I have is proprietary belonging to someone who wants money for it...

I have 2 options to do this:..
OPTION 1:
1)  Giving you all the links  and materials to read and understand..
You do it yourself...

OPTION 2:
Is to give you a tracker for each individual system to play with and understand it..

I can't teach you how to read the result back from the 5 systems into number's with in 2-3 weeks...

That's  the part where I had paid and am paying occasionally when I play.

The whole concept is based on playing 4-5 systems together and playing the intersection of numbers..
Some of you may ask what is that?

In short, if you have 4reds, 7 evens, and 5 high numbers showing on your chart..

In the last few occasions when there was a trend, the trend broke of soon enough you bet BLACK, ODD and LOW.. You will say whats the gain...  NO you don't bet the Even chance it self you bet.. 11,13,15 & 17..  Which is 4 number's.  If it was BLACK, LOW, EVEN it would have been 5 number's..  2,4,6,8,10... 
What you want to do is bet heavy on those number's and their neighbors..  the neighbors is just to cover your investment..

You go and look at the sleepers in the same way...

Now keeping to the above example..  11, 13, 15 and 17..  If the trend was of a long one..  I would bet 30, 32, 34 and 36..

All these has to be done in 60secs + placing your bets...

It's possible for a fraction of us to do it, within the allocated time...


This time I am not here to sell anything..  I  DO NOT expect you to buy anything for this... 
I am here to give you all what I had found out a few months or a year back...from all different places

All you have to do is practice practice and practice to read the results back into numbers...  The author of the Raindrop theory said it perfectly.. play with roulette xtreme and learn the systems inside out.. It's supposed to be like knowing your alphabets..

I can answer your questions with explanation, but you all will agree No one can teach the other person how to think.
Please keep in mind not everyone's luck is the same either.

Next posts will have all the links built into it..  No words...

[Azim]

This was Repeter's

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11565.0

The following one was intresting:  THE AUTHOR NEVER EXPLAINED IT TO ME:

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9330.0

If someone can get the owner to explain it to a non-roulette player, this might be a winner.
(by the way-> I am a C++ programmer.  IF YOU CAN THINK IT..  YOU CAN PROGRAM IT..  Might take a few months to get it right.
It will be time well spent.)

This one has it all...  The owner has vanished...I think the owner was trying to teach everyone how to think..  I am sorry, it's hard to teach someone how to think...
link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=10230.0

This one has an excellent bet selection statistics for the current trend
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2681.0


Now:  I want you to look at the following site...  I am not here to promote any of the products.
If you are the owner of the products..  Good for you..
by the way : Some of the stuff is free..

link:://:.roulette-tools.com/free-roulette-tools.htm


Forgot Drazen's theory of third as well:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4960.0




Once again..  If you want me to do the 2nd Option I am willing to do it too...

I will say it again..  I can't teach you how to think..I can explain what the results are from each and every tracker.

Azim

[Azim]

I know, everyone thinks, I was rude to AUSGUY.  Well, I don't want to dwell on it.  What's done is done. I had my opinion about him and he had about me..  I gave him my piece.  Anyways, Looks like he isn't up to the challenge.

AUSGUY, I AM SORRY, IF ANYTHING I SAID HAS BEEN INTERPRETED AS BEING RUDE.

So here we go :

I said this should be "like knowing your alphabets.".

I once again, can't teach you how to think, but I can show you the way and it's up to you to make the effort to learn and practice.

Step 1:
It's not an easy process. I am going to go through this process step by step for you to learn and practice.

Question I have to you all before I go to step 2.  Do you want to use all 37(European Wheel) or 38(American Wheel) or can I reduce the numbers down to 12 or 13  and try and make it easier to understand?

If I can use 12 to 13 number's I want someone to design a wheel based on those number's and post it for everyone to see.

[TwoCatSam]

I vote 37

[roulettefan]

37 also

[Azim]

I vote 37

Sam,
Honestly you want to go through this process with 37 numbers... Fine by me..

I am going to say to you all before I start.. I DO NOT INTEND TO OFFEND ANYBODY..  I AM TREATING YOU ALL AS NEW ROULETTE PLAYERS WITH NO PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE. YOU WILL HAVE TO FORGET FOR A WHILE THAT YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT ROULETTE.

But remember it will really become a very long process with 37 numbers and I am sure people will have questions...
I don't want to be tied to this after 3 weeks..  I might become busy and may not answer..  I don't want to be accused of not showing..  That's why I have posted all the material...

The reason Why I choose 12-13 was 12 would have become a non-zero table and 13 would be a zero table..  Each dozen would have 4 numbers and each column would have 3 numbers..And we would have done a payout of 12:1  and not 36:1

Any ways let's start..
I have a request for you Sam, Write down min 75 maximum No limit winning numbers.  Zip them up and password protect it..
Give me the first 7 numbers from it.
After we have gone through the process reveal the password for everyone to see..

I trust you, but It's just playing it safe.  Is that fair?
I will only take numbers from you.. We will give everyone time to respond.. 

[GLC]

The way my memory's been lately, acting as if I don't know roulette will be a piece of cake.

From this point forward I know nothing except how to play the basic game of roulette.

Let the games begin.

GLC

[Azim]

The way my memory's been lately, acting as if I don't know roulette will be a piece of cake.

From this point forward I know nothing except how to play the basic game of roulette.

Let the games begin.

GLC

I am sorry. However I like that George..  Well, Let me add to my previous post. I know for a fact, Sam, Nickmsi, Iggiv, Drazen and yourself will slaughter me with questions...

Anyways..  If anyone of you want to take this over while other is not available..  I am up for it..  As long as we all on the same page..  One number at a time from the same file..

[GLC]

I like the concept of "giving back".

Your signature states:  "With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income."

I've been struggling with that statement.

I hope you prove to us that you have discovered how to make that true for roulette.

I'm sure BudskiiHD hopes so too.

Sounds like it's going to take a lot of practice, study, self-discipline, money management, judgment, and maybe a little bit of luck.  Pretty much what many of us have been preaching for a long time. 

I may have to set aside my "Full Trioplay Tames The Mongoose" system, if yours is more stable.

GLC

[Azim]

George..  I hate to have done this..  but If you go back to the VLS forum.

I just bashed AUSGUY, again...  this time I have quoted  the post from

Hello again,
Finally did the test I had been waiting years to do. I always wondered what would happen if I played at a live table, starting out with 1 unit chips then when I built them up to trade them in to 5 unit chips the up frpm there. I have been working for years on perfecting this sys and finally felt confident enough to give it a try.  I played for three hours building up and trading in, 25 unit chips were difficult to play with because of low house plein bets (50 unit max plein bet) so I dropped back down to 5 unit and used that. cleared 4500 units and cashed out. ok this is not just a bragging thread..... this sys is difficult to explain but ill keep trying if you want to send me some actual spins ill explain what to bet next and why. sorry for the silence I have been very busy workig at our new school.

For some of us gifted people in the world, its second to nothing...  I honestly, have gambling in my blood from both sides.. 
We just don't abuse the skills we have.  Even If after doing this.  I get 1 person winning on a regular bassis, my job will have been done..

Like I said to Drazen...

The War -> We will not beat it...THAT'S FOR SURE.. THERE IS NOBODY who has.
The battles:  session we can win and just have to win more than lose.

It will be the individual greed that will kill the person..  I look at a Casino as a 24hr atm if used wisely.

[Azim]

Step 2:
While we are waiting for whoever gives me the number's...  Here is the homework...  Really,  that's for the USA  player's  they can't bet online..  so we will give them a chance to go to the casino and play...

The work is memorize the wheel..  Just the way you know your alphabets...  If someone gives you 3 number's  you should be able to tell them what their neighbor's are..   B->  A and C..   same way  0->26 and 32..  No looking up on any charts..  It should be natural..  How long do you think it takes to look up from a chart? Remember we are on a time constraint.less than 60 seconds minus time to place the bets...

I am dealing with Random Number Generator , Live dealer or number's picked up from the tree...

Ok..  but I can't remember the wheel, I have to write the numbers down...  FIRST CAUSION..  Never play with your emotions... Yes, I will let you write the number's down..  think again...  write the number's down, plot a graph to visualize and bet...  How long will it take?...   NO EMOTIONS->  If you can't do that in less than 60 seconds and miss a betting opportunity, don't worry....  the casino is open 24hrs..  there is no need to rush, you might get a better opportunity or you might not..   

If you going to write the number's down..  use 2 pages  on one page write the number's in numerical order.. 0 can go on the top or bottom your preference..same goes for 00.
On the second page write the wheel order..

[Azim]

NO EMOTIONS->

I am not sure if I can do this. I hope I am allowed...

It's over...... I could kill myself at the moment......everything was going perfect, then I lost it again.
I had a very unlucky series of numbers in today's session, and I had to bet over 1000 units, and that still wasn't enough to cover the losses.
I got mad, raised the stakes, and lost about 6000 units total.
I have two options now, cash out the remaining 3000 units, or start playing 24/7 and try to get back where I was. One thing for sure, next time I play, I will not have win goals, I'm gonna win as much as I can. What's the point of having 100 units per day win goals, when one loss is in the thousands?
It's too hard to accept a loss if I win every day. The same happened to me all the time when I was playing poker for years. Almost every day was a winning day, so I was unable to accept a loss when it came.

When I say emotions..  this is a BIG NO NO NO...

You can't let that get to you... REASONS:  EMOTIONS AND FINANCES DONT GO HAND IN HAND.

Consider this as buying stocks...  If the stock lost it's value, do you go out running to the bank and say i want more stocks so i can recover?



Hence my question: WHY DO WE BUILD ROBOTS...

[Azim]

Can someone tell me if I am allowed to quote statement's from other threads like the previous quote I did?

[TwoCatSam]

Azim

I thought you meant do we use the European or American wheel.  I chose European.  I'm happy with any number of numbers; 12 or 13.  I have .rar-ed my numbers but I do not know how to password protect them.  I will e-mail them to any third part so they may verify.

In any event, the first 7 are
25
7
1
11
6
3
25

Someone--or several--send an e-mail to TwoCatSam@cox.net and I'll send you the .rar file.

Sam

[Azim]

Sam,

After having thought about this..  Doesn't matter..I realized this isn't a challenge this is just a learning process..The longer it takes it will be better to understand..But I am on a time limit   

New Number "X"
Is this correct:
25 , 7 ,  1, 11, 6, 3, 25 , "X"
or is it
"X", 25, 7, 1, 11, 6, 3, 25 ?

While I am waiting for Sam...  Why did I choose 7 and not 5, 3, 12, 8 etc etc.. 
If you play Air ball at the casino you have an option of going for as long as you want without placing a bet.
If you play Live Dealer or Air Ball online after about 7-8 the program says you have been disconnected due to inactivity.

Step 3:
What can we do to this number's:  25..  What do we know about 25.. It is odd, It is high, and it is red. Well we all know that..25  is your number 1.. and 0..  What is 1 -> 1 is it's the first spin I observed...  What is 0->  Zero is i can't go back from this point..  I can only look at things in one direction ..  and that is forward...If I go back  I enter a negative number.. In life do we want to be around any negativity?  I certainly don't.

We have 2 pages..  I will Call them Wheel Layout-> Which is a wheel layout. The second page is statistics..

On the wheel layout mark 25 with "1"...  On the statistics page: you could have written the number's horizontal or vertical..  Either way doesn't matter.. Split that into 2..  Just draw a line in between or what ever.. On Side "A"  mark 1 under or next to 25 depending on how you have written the number's..  On Side "B" mark 0 next to 25...

When Sam replies to my question..  if "3" is the next number..  On the wheel layout mark 3 with "2" and on the Statistics page "A-Side" mark 3 with 2   and "B-Side" mark 1 next to 3.

If "7" is the next number  do the above to the "7".

Complete the rest of the number's.. Based on the above.

Relate this back to the stock market:  What do we know about a company?,  Who is the CEO, finances etc etc etc

Hey wait a minute,  the CEO changed... Guess what the dealer changed?

  Well  the wheel is still the same, the number's are the same.  the spacing between number's are the same,  25 is still high, odd and red..  Why do we care if a dealer changed?  The ball is the same too?

Air Ball,  has internal statistics..  It is random to a point where even SD is set to randomize
What do I mean by that?   We have read every where that SD is 3.  Guess what, before the evolution of computer, live dealers only, that was an excellent observation.  3 SD is (37 X 3) = 111 spins..  Do the math 111 spins how long does it take to play with a live dealer? Now, 111 spins is a matter of 30 munites...  See the statement " Now days we play more spins online hence we see more of the abnormalities on a regular basis"..   Pre computer era 111 spins ->  3 hours  estimation of 2 munites per spin?  Have I exaggerated that or have I been on the lower end of 2 munites..(Remember, dealers use to separate all losing  chips by hand).

To this point: Does anyone think this is fiction..  Or a fact that no one has looked at it in that direction?