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Balance system

Started by eddy35, Jan 18, 11:27 AM 2014

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eddy35

What do you guys think about this?  I did some testing and it's very promising.

Method:

Plays all 3 ECs at the sametime, always 1 unit on zero.

1) Goal is to win 1 or more units per session.


2) We track the first 9 spins


3) Example:  If the first 9 spins are        7xred/2xblack   3xeven/6xoneven    and     8xhigh/1xlow

We place 5 units on black, 3 units on even, and 7 units on low


4) Flat bet these amounts for a max of 9 spins. If at anytime there is a +1 unit or more profit the session ends.


5) If after the 9 spins (18 now in total) there is no profit we now recount the balance difference of those 18 spins on each EC

Example after 18 spins: 12xred/5xblack     6xeven/12xoneven      14xhigh/4xlow

                   We place       7 units on black       6 units on even         10 units on low


6) Flat bet these amounts for a max of 9 spins. If at anytime there is a +1 unit or more profit the complete session ends.

7) If again after 9 spins there is no profit we now recount the balance difference of a total of now 27 spins on each EC.

Example after 27 spins: 18xred/9xblack     15xeven/12xoneven      13xhigh/14xlow

                   We place       9 units on black       3 units on oneven         1 unit on high


8)

-The basis is always after the first 9 spins count the balance difference between each EC.

-Place this balance difference in units on the least hit section of each particular EC

-After the next 9 spins no profit, recount the balance difference (18 total) and place this as a unit value on the least hit EC section. If there is a profit during the 9 spins the session ends

etc.

ausguy

eddy -Your play idea may or might not work ? Where/what game are you looking to play this ? B & M casino Live Dealer or on line live dealer, Airball auto wheel or RNG ?

I tested & played all 3 EC's, B & M live dealer, about 12 years ago (not your way though) I was mainly betting Marty with stop losses along the progression line.

Also you can't get away from the fact that the triple play consumes three times the single plays bet outlays, in basic terms.

What I got overall was more losses than wins. What I mean is that to win I needed at least 2 winners out of the 3 EC choices. All too often I would get more 2 or 3 losses  than 2 or 3 winners. I tried all sorts of ways, like the same as the last spin, same as the last spin then opposite to the last spin alternating every 2 bet lines.

I tried alternating within the bet lines as Same, Opposite, Same, then the next line was Opposite, Same, Opposite, thus again repeating every 2 bet lines.

I tried cross bet averaging to lower the losing bet amounts to try & get any winners to "subsidise" the losers. Nothing worked & I lost a lot of money to the casino before I wised up & abandoned that play idea. The stop losses would stop a string of losses but restarting betting after a no bet win would all to often get another loss.

In overall terms it shows that the randomness of the results misaligns the ECs rather than aligns them.

A LWLWLWLW situation would chew a big chunk out of the Bank Roll.

Your play waiting for X number of spins would be very slow. Some games you must bet every spin (no free spins).

I'm almost certain you will get the same trend as I did, in that you'll get more losses than wins ? With the outlays you show I don't see how you can recover let alone make a profit ?  For the play time involved & the 1 unit wins then reset, I'm asking myself "is this play viable" ?

eddy35

Quote from: ausguy on Jan 18, 01:01 PM 2014
eddy -Your play idea may or might not work ? Where/what game are you looking to play this ? B & M casino Live Dealer or on line live dealer, Airball auto wheel or RNG ?

I tested & played all 3 EC's, B & M live dealer, about 12 years ago (not your way though) I was mainly betting Marty with stop losses along the progression line.

Also you can't get away from the fact that the triple play consumes three times the single plays bet outlays, in basic terms.

What I got overall was more losses than wins. What I mean is that to win I needed at least 2 winners out of the 3 EC choices. All too often I would get more 2 or 3 losses  than 2 or 3 winners. I tried all sorts of ways, like the same as the last spin, same as the last spin then opposite to the last spin alternating every 2 bet lines.

I tried alternating within the bet lines as Same, Opposite, Same, then the next line was Opposite, Same, Opposite, thus again repeating every 2 bet lines.

I tried cross bet averaging to lower the losing bet amounts to try & get any winners to "subsidise" the losers. Nothing worked & I lost a lot of money to the casino before I wised up & abandoned that play idea. The stop losses would stop a string of losses but restarting betting after a no bet win would all to often get another loss.

In overall terms it shows that the randomness of the results misaligns the ECs rather than aligns them.

A LWLWLWLW situation would chew a big chunk out of the bankroll.

Your play waiting for X number of spins would be very slow. Some games you must bet every spin (no free spins).

I'm almost certain you will get the same trend as I did, in that you'll get more losses than wins ? With the outlays you show I don't see how you can recover let alone make a profit ?  For the play time involved & the 1 unit wins then reset, I'm asking myself "is this play viable" ?

Did you really understand what I try to do with this system?

There is no long waiting, I only track the first 9 spins, then I bet every spin.

Azim

Quote from: eddy35 on Jan 18, 11:27 AM 2014
What do you guys think about this?  I did some testing and it's very promising.

Method:

Plays all 3 ECs at the sametime, always 1 unit on zero.

1) Goal is to win 1 or more units per session.


2) We track the first 9 spins


3) Example:  If the first 9 spins are        7xred/2xblack   3xeven/6xoneven    and     8xhigh/1xlow

We place 5 units on black, 3 units on even, and 7 units on low


4) Flat bet these amounts for a max of 9 spins. If at anytime there is a +1 unit or more profit the session ends.


5) If after the 9 spins (18 now in total) there is no profit we now recount the balance difference of those 18 spins on each EC

Example after 18 spins: 12xred/5xblack     6xeven/12xoneven      14xhigh/4xlow

                   We place       7 units on black       6 units on even         10 units on low

Think about it for a second.  You want all 3 to hit?  Why not try same concept with straight numbers.
example:  2,4,6,8,10 are the numbers you really want from your tracking. So do the same tracking and play straight number's for a a total of 7 spins. (5 x 7)


6) Flat bet these amounts for a max of 9 spins. If at anytime there is a +1 unit or more profit the complete session ends.

7) If again after 9 spins there is no profit we now recount the balance difference of a total of now 27 spins on each EC.

Example after 27 spins: 18xred/9xblack     15xeven/12xoneven      13xhigh/14xlow

                   We place       9 units on black       3 units on oneven         1 unit on high


8)

-The basis is always after the first 9 spins count the balance difference between each EC.

-Place this balance difference in units on the least hit section of each particular EC

-After the next 9 spins no profit, recount the balance difference (18 total) and place this as a unit value on the least hit EC section. If there is a profit during the 9 spins the session ends

etc.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

eddy35

Quote from: Azim on Jan 18, 04:23 PM 2014


Thnx,

I just tested a short session the way you suggested. Playing the numbers flatbetting. Maybe beginners luck  ;)

eddy35

2nd short test, flatbetting. Reset chips after hit.

Even better!

Azim

GLAD!!!...
Are you willing to do an exercise?
It will be a painful one.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

eddy35

Quote from: Azim on Jan 18, 05:16 PM 2014
GLAD!!!...
Are you willing to do an exercise?
It will be a painful one.

It Always is :-)

Azim

@Everyone,

If I am unclear ask..

Now, take the longest spin count file you have.

If you don't have any. You have roulette extreme down load daily files. About 100 or more  but not less.
Even better download 10 files from random.org. Maximum spins per file will be 10,000.

Once you get your trigger. Count how many spins does it take for your trigger to hit.
Keep a tally.

Example:
SPINS TO WIN    HIT COUNT
   1 spin             25     (which is After getting trigger win came the next spin.
   3 spin             10   
   5 spin              7
   6 spin             35
   8 spin             23   

Remember, I have just thrown out the above number.

What you want to do is in the above case we got 5 different spins.

Look for the one with the highest Hit's. In the case above, 6 spins for a count of 35.

So looking at your triggers, the most number's you will bet will be 5.

5 number's for a 6 spins.  -30. this makes it a profit  of 6 units.

We have established that we will not use any progression.
Go back to the same files now. Instead of starting at the very first spin (you have already done the tracking from spin 1 so we don't want to repeat the above trigger) start from spin 5 or spin 6 any spin you want but the first.  See what happens to the outcome.

Do a tally of your wins vs losses.  For wins and losses you want at least a total of 10,000 to give you an estimation of how your system will do in the long run.
In your case because the average was 6 and we play 5 number's we have to win 9 times before we get a lose.

Your wins will come from 6 spins and below.

In the second exercise. you only going to play for 6 spins. After 6 spins. You lose.

DON'T GET DISCOURAGED IF YOU SEE LOSSES AFTER LOSSES AND ITS YOUR FIRST OR SECOND FILE.

Make sure you are consistent and accurate when creating averages. You can't use a small set of spins. example (1000 spins)
You will need a minimum of at least 100,000 spins.






With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Azim

Did anyone attempt to do this and has number's they can share?
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

jarabo002

Could somebody code this system in rx? :thumbsup:
Uno de Badajoz que pasaba por aquí.

rajucb12

Thanks for share it. I simply examined this short treatment the method that you recommended. Actively playing this volumes smooth gambling. Perhaps newbies fortune.

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