I'm really liking this visual ballistic

[Firefox]

I don't think it's necessary to bet on a lot of numbers. Typically I only bet a corner and a street or double street and a split. That's 5, 6,7 or 8 numbers. So long as numbers you bet are in a scatter peak rather than a shadow, you will be a consistent winner. You can even bet on just one number and you will be a winner in the end if you are in the scatter peak.

The only advantage in betting more numbers is it reduces your variance. You need a smaller bankroll, and your win or loss at any given moment will be subject to less wild fluctuations.

Scatter plot is also critical.  Some wheels such as Cammegh scallops have shallow peaks over half the wheel or more ... it  depends on the ball. They were designed to be more random but actually have a softer influence on less accurate visual play. If you make say 7 bets over half the wheel and you miss  a ball revolution which shifts your prediction say +/- 8 pockets on a 4000ms rotor, then 3 of your bets still catch the peak, whereas if you'd made a neighbours bet on a sticky wheel with a pronounced peak, that bet would be down for sure.

I'd definitely make scatter plots over 120 spins at least and record diamond hits at the same time to see if the wheel is worth playing. If in a live casino you can pretend to be recording red/black and make a minimum red/black bet every few spins. If the table is busy you can just stand there watching the action and pretend to record red/black while getting scatter/diamond data.

[The General]

Firefox,

Did you use to post on Laurance's forum back in 2003, 2004?

[Firefox]

Ah, you remember me! I think it was Laurence that first told me that wider spread scatter wheels were easier to beat in some respects, and after much testing and recording,   I found he was right. Like he was right about a lot of things!

[ego]

Firefox I have some questions.

1) When you look for a wheel with good conditions, do you stand next to the wheel and observe the deflector hits to determine the dominant drop zone - if yes then for how many spins in cw/ccw direction

2) When you estimate the ball speed, do you predict at 6 5 4 3 2 1 laps to drop and is it common that they say No More Bets early so you can not play?

3) How large view do you have of the wheel, 25, 50, 75, 100%

4) How do you bet peaks when the ball hit half the wheel?

5) What is most common 2 or 3 dominant drop zone/deflector hits

Cheers

[The General]

Firefox,

Good to see you here.  I agree with much of what you write.  I don't necessarily agree with your view on scatter though.

It's nice to see another intelligent poster that grasps basic probability!

[Bigbroben]

It's nice to see another intelligent poster that grasps basic probability!

General,
most of us are intelligent and we all grasp basic probabilities.  It's pretty basic stuff.  We simply cannot focus on VB if we have very little time or occasion to learn it.

[Firefox]

Firefox I have some questions.

1) When you look for a wheel with good conditions, do you stand next to the wheel and observe the deflector hits to determine the dominant drop zone - if yes then for how many spins in cw/ccw direction

I try to get about 50-60 spins in each direction

2) When you estimate the ball speed, do you predict at 6 5 4 3 2 1 laps to drop and is it common that they say No More Bets early so you can not play?

I try to predict about 6 spins out and bet 4 to 5 spins out. They'll only call early if they suspect. It has happened but not common as I keep low profile

3) How large view do you have of the wheel, 25, 50, 75, 100%

To start with 75 to 100 but I can then narrow that down to 25 to 50 when I know where the DDs are. It's not worth playing a wheel with 3 or 4 DDS so you generally only need
about 33% view taking in the 1or2  DDs

4) How do you bet peaks when the ball hit half the wheel?

Some peaks last half the wheel or more on low profile wheels. Just predict the peak centre and don't bet in the shadow (negative peak)

5) What is most common 2 or 3 dominant drop zone/deflector hits

I would say 2 then 1
then 3 then none. But if it's 2, sometimes 1 will be dominant from c and the other dominant from cc. But I only play 1 Dd or 2 if it's direction dependent or only play one spin direction but either way I only bother if I'm 75% certain I know where the ball comes off.  Also ideally the ball drop time from predection, usually about 9 seconds is a multiple of rotor speed. Eg 2 rotations on a 4500 ms rotor or
3 rotations on 3000 ms rotor or 2.25 rotations on 4000 ms rotor. That way I can check I am getting the right spin or if conditions are drifting.

Cheers

[Steve]

Broader scatter is easier to beat because if conditions change and you miss your target, the target is bigger anyway. Narrow but high peaks are useless if you aren't adjusting to conditions. First you have ball deceleration rate changes. On some wheels even rotor speed creates a whirlwind enough to change ball deceleration rate. Then you have ball rolling deviation from ball and track imperfections. So on wheels with narrow peaks, such variables can make you go from strong positive to strong negative edge if you dont account for them. You need the right analysis to see where inaccuracies are coming from, then adjust if it is at all possible. You cant adjust for ball and track imperfections though, but you can know how early predictions can be within acceptable error tolerance. Unless you have broad scatter, which again is a lot more tolerant to errors.

Depending on some variables, I find low frets actually better to play. The scatter is broader, but more dependable - ie a bigger target. They are supposed to make winning harder, but dont. The typical pockets of the mk7's have tighter scatter and narrower peaks. It also depends on the dominant diamonds, how the ball falls etc, and it's different for each wheel even of the same design. You can have exactly the same wheel and have bad scatter, then rotate it 90 degrees on the same surface, then have super predictable scatter. The difference is perhaps 2mm height. Each time the casino re-calibrates a wheel they can either make it harder or easier to beat. Recalibration can make play harder or easier, depending on the outcome of it, and your approach. If you know what to look for, you can jump on a recalibrated wheel that has better scatter.

[Roulettebeater]

Hey guys

Does anybody know a software that can be installed on notebook and can pause or replay live streaming roulette from casino website ?

[Steve]

Yes i think its vlc player that has that capability. It can record the buffer you set, and you can rewind a live screen recording.

[Roulettebeater]

Thx Steve
But I am not sure if that all what I need !
Actually I want to view the live stream roulette and pause the streaming and then release it so it can proceed or replay it quickly, I am not interested in recording the session for later viewing, rather than pause the stream at certain point.

Any idea ?

[Steve]

The solution i explained will record your screen, and allow you to do instant replay of say the last 10 seconds. But it doesn't intercept the steam.

[Roulettebeater]

Steve

As you are a guru, it would be useful to know your opinion on the wheels where the ball repeatedly leaves the track without hitting any deflector ... Is there something scary happening in background ?

[Steve]

It is common on wheels with smaller diamonds. Diamonds are supposed to make spins more random, but they do the opposite,. Wheel designers eventually learned, then made diamonds smaller.

Do you have a photo of the wheel design?

[Roulettebeater]

Yes I have a photo.
By the way, I have a question, I am sure you can help me.

Let’s suppose that in 18 seconds the wheel(or better say the rotor) moved 9 pockets in cw direction, for the sake of simplicity we will ignore how Many complete laps the rotor did, the question is what is the average rotor speed ?