Hi SAS,

I have more bad luck than anybody out there. I am just playing safe.   

Great post. Will study the progression,  try the system and report with my results. I like the idea of the virtual win but it's the progression I'm the most curious about as I recently realized - or accepted-, that it's what it all comes down to.  The rest doesn't really matter. Thanks the law!

Cheers

Quote from: sturrock on Jul 10, 04:49 PM 2014
Hi SAS,

I have more bad luck than anybody out there. I am just playing safe.   

Tried this today for real money (low value chips) and won a session of 3 games (+9profit) - playing with "foolproof" progression.

A.

Good for you Atlantis    Ive played 3 sessions today up 9 the first 27 the second and 10 just now Foolproof and waiting for a V win after a loss     

Good. I played same way.
A.

Perfect 

Guys there's is no difference between waiting for a virtual win or playing SAS way. In the end,  what you don't want to happen will happen. What we need is an invincible money management plan. I tried the foolproof progression at first and It worked well but it busted on the third day of my trial during the first 20 spins of the day and that was using the SAS bet selection. It could have happened with any other bet selection as long as random wanted to take me down. There are exactly as many chances to see one of two sanple sequence LLLLLLLLLLLL or this sequence LWLWLWLWLWLW SO STOP LYING TO YOURSELVES!
Bet selection is good im not saying the opposite. But it will always have its limits. What matters is the money management and foolproof is not the one in my opinion since it busted way too quickly for me.

Sorry to poop your party but when you will understand this we will be making a great step forward. I really don't mean to sound arrogant but trust me....  It's all in the money management. The one who finds a money management system that will survive a million spin when betting on the two same dozens consecutively will be the winer. Don't think that changing dozens according to previous spins and patterns will save you. You all know that every spin is independent from each other. So since the wheel has no memory it can reproduce any pattern that you guys are trying to hide behind. On the very long term betting all the time on dozen 1 and 2 is exactly the same than your elaborate schemes to evade from random. Random is blind and doesn't care where your hide so you'd be a fool to think you can hide behind patterns.

Cheers,  and again sorry. I don't want to upset anyone.

I am sure Steven is right and it IS the progression here that really counts. So the fail WILL come at some time. Let's not delude ourselves about it. "thelaw" seems to have tested most of the progs already and discovered this truth also - he's come up with the "labby breaker" as the one he deems best and yet to be broken.
A.

Steven,  Thanks for the insight.  You're right, we all know that waiting for a trigger just spreads the bets out so the losses come further apart and we think we're on to something.  It's true,  for every WLL that's followed by a W, there are an equal number that are followed by another L.  And then there's that Zero. 

Unfortunately, I've looked at a jillion progressions and they all have their strengths and weaknesses.  The labby that Mr. Law presented above can be tweaked to make it as safe or aggressive as you like.

I'm starting to think that the most important skills are self-control and personal money management. 

I have an acquaintance who has a bankroll of $5,000 and he's broken it into fifty $100 mini-banks.  He got ahead by 5 mini-banks before a really bad streak and for the last 3 months he's been trying to dig his way out.  He was down 9 mini-banks the last time I talked to him.  He's considering doubling his unit size and halving the number of mini-banks.  His thinking is that he's had so much bad luck, he's due for a stretch of good luck.  I told him he's never "due" anything when it comes to gambling.  Just have fun, don't play with money you can't afford to lose.  And in his case, I don't want my name mentioned to his wife if he loses his shirt.

GLC

P.S.  I just noticed big A's post.  Sorry if I duplicated your comments my friend.

Agree with steven there. It's good that some people begin to realise this. That's my purpose of posting the excel spreadsheet data from live b&m casino of multiple tables all at the same time. If your lucky to chose the correct tables you win if not you lose for some tables.

When I test any bet selection thats how I do it. Collect data on my sony xperia on preformatted spreadsheet which makes translation on the spot. If I need further work/research I download data onto my laptop.

I am working on improved bet selection taking all your suggestions into consideration. I do that by changing the formula on the spreadsheet, helps me review ideas a lot faster.

However, Im rather caught up with many projects at the moment. I allot my time on the basis of best profitable possibility. For the moment both this n SAS supa dupa thread r interesting initiatives. Keep posting your ideas n I will test them. If it looks good I will share the spreadsheet results with you guys.

I particularly like SAS latest suggestion much like klw idea on supa dupa thread. Will do some test n post results later if they be any good.

Since there's quite a bit of buzz about applying virtual loss, here is the test results from b&m casino using SAS supa dupa bet selection.

PS. 1st bet 1 unit, if win start the next cycle
      if loss 2nd bet 3 units, if win start the next cycle
      if loss 3rd bet skip, if win start the next cycle
      if loss 4th bet 9 units, win or loss start the next cycle
      (money management suggestion of 1, 3, 9 progression with bankroll of 52units for 2 cycles per session)