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Simple double dozens progression.
Jul 12, 05:57 PM 2014
Good night dear friends of this forum!

Already many months ago I do not participate here. All this time I've spent researching exclusively gaming systems with even splits colums with uncertain results.

... but after all this time there's something I really miss, the double dozens progressions, especially those invented by GLC and with that I have enjoy so much. This is why I allowed myself to return to this type of game for a while. Just to enjoy, just for fun.

I now turn to explain this simple progression: first, suppose two dozen bet and always the same (I do not believe in bet selections), and we have a bankroll of 1000 units.

The progression is as follows:

Everytime we have L - (-1) in the two dozens.
LW - (+2) in the two dozens.
LWW, Lnolinks, LnolinksW ...... (+1) in the two dozens.

Reset when you are in profit.

What do you think?
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jarabo002,  I had noticed that you were unusually quiet for a spell.  It's not too uncommon for members to take a break from the forum to clear their head and to spend some focused attention on some aspect of the game.

You've been missed and I'm happy you're at least periodically keeping an eye on the forum.

I like the looks of your progression and will give it a test drive to see how it feels.  I have a double dozen along with a double column progression idea that's doing shockingly well.  So far better than any of my previous ones.  I look at yours first.

A quick clarification please.  On any Loss you drop back 1 unit on both dozens.  If you have a win after that loss, you jump up +2 on both dozens.  Now do you increase by 1 unit on both dozens as long as you continue to win and then when you lose you reduce your bet by -1 unit as long as you continue to lose and on the 1st win you jump up +2 units?  I know that's a long sentence, but hopefully you will understand it.

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Thanks GLC, it's always a great honor for me to learn with you. And I hope it's not too late for that one day you can collect all knowledge so nicely expressed in this forum and publish everything in book form and even as a doctoral thesis.

On the progression I present here, as to the statement you made​​, that's exactly.

I would also like to stress again that perhaps a thousand units bankroll is suffcient to withstand the high stakes that could come with this progression.

Otherwise, if you're researching a new progression with dozens / columns at the time will be received with much enthusiasm here.
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So what this is, is a tweak to the forced win progression for double dozens.  Instead of a continual climb into the stratosphere, you slow it down a little with the drop back on the losses.  The double jump after the 1st win after a loss gets back on the original forced win progression.  What you're really doing is compensating for all the losses after a single loss.  So the real tweak is the drop back after 2 or more losses in a row.

Sorry for stating the obvious, but it can help others to understand the progression if the rationale behind it is stated.  I like the concept.  One thing we find is that it will take longer to reach a new high balance, but our bet sizes will be kept smaller.  Always a good move.

GLC

P.S.  I just had a really bad test with my new progression idea, but it's just 1 out of 34 tests.  I don't doubt that the losing test would have recovered had I had time to continue the test, but I ran out of time.  I was only down 150 units which isn't that hard to recover from.  My tests are to +25 units.  My problem is being able to communicate the progression clearly since I'm a little chart challenged.
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It is a semi-positive progression, ie, we increase the bet only after winning, and it reduces to lose, that protects us a bit at several consecutive loss, which does not occur as often, but when it occurs it can be lethal.

The fact increase the bet by two units with the first win after a lost, prevents an infinite up-down on the bets that can perpetuate the game. It is more risky, but also faster, so a bankroll of at least 1000 units is required.
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Example, we bet in the 2nd and 3rd dozens, my favorites:

Spin   BET     number    DOZ        W/ L         net
1        1-1          21            2         W        +1 RESET
2         1-1         36            3         W       +2 RESET 
3         1-1         23            2         W        +3 RESET
4          1-1        13            2          W         +4 RESET
5         1-1         18            2          W        +5 RESET
6          1-1        24            2         W          +6 RESET
7          1-1        26            3         W          +7 RESET
8          1-1        34            3          W          +8 RESET
9          1-1        30            3          W         +9 RESET
10        1-1        19            2         W          +10 RESET
11        1-1        29            3          W         +11 RESET
12        1-1        13            2           W        +12 RESET
13        1-1        6              1          L           +10
14         1-1       36            3          W          +11
15        3-3        32            3          W          +14 RESET
16        1-1         30           3          W           +15 RESET
17         1-1       7              1          L           +13
18        1-1       19            2          W          +14
19         3-3       4              1          L           +8
20        2-2        36             3         W          +10
21         4-4        9             1          L            +2
22         3-3        4             1          L            -4
23         2-2      14             2          W         -2
24        4-4       32            3          W           +2
25         5-5       4              1          L             -8
26         4-4       12             1         L            -16
27         3-3       25            3           W          -13
28         5-5        24           2          W            -8
29          6-6      4              1            L           -20
30         5-5        15            2          W            -15
31         7-7       26            3           W            -8
32          8-8      35            3           W           0
33          9-9      33            3          W            +9
34         10-10   11           1           L              -11
35          9-9        29           3          W            -2
36          11-11    29           3          W            +9
37         12-12     21           2           W            +21 RESET
38          1-1        36           3          W              +22 RESET
 
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Here's the most recent progression I've been using to test double dozens and it's been playing very solid.

Begin by using your favorite method of selecting double dozens.  I like to bet on the last two dozens to show.  I don't have a mathematical reason for it, but for some reason it seems to work better for me.

We also bet the same way on the columns at the same time.  Se we're betting on two dozens and two columns every spin.  If you want to play this with a trigger, pattern or whatever, go ahead.  It won't hurt anything, just slows things down.

We don't bet the same amount on both dozens or both columns.  We bet twice as much on one of the dozens and one of the columns.  So, if we're betting one unit on one of the dozens, we will bet 2 units on the other dozen.  Same for the columns.

I bet 1 unit on the last dozen and column to show and 2 units on the 2nd to last dozen and column to show.

I play an Oscar's Grind type progression with movement triggered by a win on both larger bets.  In other words if I'm betting 1 & 2 on the dozens and columns, I don't increase my bet size until I get a hit on both the 2 unit bet on dozens and the 2 unit bet on columns at the same time. 

Here's a breakdown of the win/loss possibilities.

Don't hit on anything = -6 units
Only hit on one of the 1 unit bets = -3 units
Hit on both of the 1 unit bets = break even
Only hit on one of the 2 unit bet = break even
Hit on one of the 1 unit bets and one of the 2 unit bets = +3 units
Hit on both of the  2 unit bets = +6 units

My progression line is:

1&2; 2&4; 3&6; 4&8; 5&10; 6&12; 7&14; etc...

My win target is +25 units.  I start off betting 1 & 2 on the dozens and the columns and I continue to bet 1 & 2 as long as I'm winning.  All of these won units goes into my profits.  Before long and maybe the first bet, I will have a loss.  Once I have a loss, I stay at the 1 & 2 bet level.  I may have a good run and recover my loss and just stay at the 1 & 2 bet level.  Or, I may have other losses and continue betting 1 &2 until I have a win on the two 2 unit bets.  This nets me 6 units and often it will bring me to a new high bank at which time I bank the profits and start a new attack.  Or, if I'm still minus after the hit on the two 2 unit bets, I evaluate where I stand.  If I'm -6 or less I stay at the 1&2 level but if I'm down more than -6, I will move up the bet line to 2&4.  I continue to play at the 2&4 level until I either reach a new high bank amount or I have another win on the two 4 unit bets.  I re-evaluate my standing and if I'm -12 or less, I stay at the 2&4 level.  If I'm down more than -12, I move to 3&6 level etc...

So, every time I hit both of the larger bets, I evaluate my standing and if I'm within one win on the two larger bets from break even or a new high bank, I just stay at the current level and if I'm down more than 1 win on my two larger bets, I move one step up the bet line.

It's not exactly a super safe progression, but not too aggressive either.

Give it a try and see if you like it?

GLC
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Here's the most recent progression I've been using to test double dozens and it's been playing very solid.

Begin by using your favorite method of selecting double dozens.  I like to bet on the last two dozens to show.  I don't have a mathematical reason for it, but for some reason it seems to work better for me.

We also bet the same way on the columns at the same time.  Se we're betting on two dozens and two columns every spin.  If you want to play this with a trigger, pattern or whatever, go ahead.  It won't hurt anything, just slows things down.

We don't bet the same amount on both dozens or both columns.  We bet twice as much on one of the dozens and one of the columns.  So, if we're betting one unit on one of the dozens, we will bet 2 units on the other dozen.  Same for the columns.

I bet 1 unit on the last dozen and column to show and 2 units on the 2nd to last dozen and column to show.

I play an Oscar's Grind type progression with movement triggered by a win on both larger bets.  In other words if I'm betting 1 & 2 on the dozens and columns, I don't increase my bet size until I get a hit on both the 2 unit bet on dozens and the 2 unit bet on columns at the same time. 

Here's a breakdown of the win/loss possibilities.

Don't hit on anything = -6 units
Only hit on one of the 1 unit bets = -3 units
Hit on both of the 1 unit bets = break even
Only hit on one of the 2 unit bet = break even
Hit on one of the 1 unit bets and one of the 2 unit bets = +3 units
Hit on both of the  2 unit bets = +6 units

My progression line is:

1&2; 2&4; 3&6; 4&8; 5&10; 6&12; 7&14; etc...

My win target is +25 units.  I start off betting 1 & 2 on the dozens and the columns and I continue to bet 1 & 2 as long as I'm winning.  All of these won units goes into my profits.  Before long and maybe the first bet, I will have a loss.  Once I have a loss, I stay at the 1 & 2 bet level.  I may have a good run and recover my loss and just stay at the 1 & 2 bet level.  Or, I may have other losses and continue betting 1 &2 until I have a win on the two 2 unit bets.  This nets me 6 units and often it will bring me to a new high bank at which time I bank the profits and start a new attack.  Or, if I'm still minus after the hit on the two 2 unit bets, I evaluate where I stand.  If I'm -6 or less I stay at the 1&2 level but if I'm down more than -6, I will move up the bet line to 2&4.  I continue to play at the 2&4 level until I either reach a new high bank amount or I have another win on the two 4 unit bets.  I re-evaluate my standing and if I'm -12 or less, I stay at the 2&4 level.  If I'm down more than -12, I move to 3&6 level etc...

So, every time I hit both of the larger bets, I evaluate my standing and if I'm within one win on the two larger bets from break even or a new high bank, I just stay at the current level and if I'm down more than 1 win on my two larger bets, I move one step up the bet line.

It's not exactly a super safe progression, but not too aggressive either.

Give it a try and see if you like it?

GLC
all I would do with this type  of bet is 2 units on the second and third colum and 1 unit on 1st and 2nd dozen make 100 bets go for a + 12and never go below + 3 .all flat bet.

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Warrior  -   How long have you tested it
years ago 1000's of spins

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Hello!

Has anyone tested further this strategy?
I've been testing it with an adjustment - when 1st loss happens, play virtual spins until a win and then continue with the progression (wherever you happen to be when the loss happened)
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