Authors System

[GLC]

Correct.  Just play Same as last, Opposite as last, Same as last, Opposite as last, Same as last etc...

Another simple system the author likes quite a bit is the Wrangler's system.


link:://archive.org/stream/montecarloanecdo00bethiala#page/100/mode/2up


It has an interesting betting method which can be used with the author's system if preferred.

GLC

[RouletteGhost]

I read the wrangler system. Cant exactly wrap my head around it

[GLC]

I read the wrangler system. Cant exactly wrap my head around it

Here's a quick summary of it.

Play follow-the-last until you lose 2 times in a row.  Switch to the other even chance until you lose 2 times in a row.

Bets are a 4 step capped martingale, 1-2-4-8.  Once you lose 4 times in a row, and once again it's the terrible two's that cause you to lose or a zero hitting at the wrong time, you will have lost 15 units.  Try to recover these 15 units with a labby or cancellation method.

Use this line 2-3-2-3-2-3 for your labby line.  Any time you lose 30+ more units you will be down about 45 units and your bets will be getting rather large so split your 45 units into 3 separate labby lines of 2-3-2-3-2-3 and try to resolve each line separately.  If one of these lines gets down 45 units, split that into 3 more lines etc...  Once you split a labby line because it's getting too large, all you're trying to do is get back to even for the day.

Throughout both the 1-2-4-8 and the labby you continue to play the same bet selection which is follow-the-last until 2 losses and then switch.

To make it less aggressive you can use the author's suggestion of 1-2-3-6 and if you lose 4 in a row you can use a labby of 2-3-2-3-2 for recovery.

Hope this helps,

GLC

[RouletteGhost]

just wanted to say, on roulette and baccarat even chances this system performs very well FYI

[GLC]

I have a question for some of you math guys.

First some theory.  The standard cancellation method touts wiping out two losses for every win.  This is only true if you start with no line at all.  So you flat bet 1 unit until you lose.  Once you lose your line is this   1   .  You are now in recovery mode so you bet 1 unit which is the sum of your leftmost number and your rightmost number.  In this case there's only 1 number.  If you lose again, your write you lost units to the right end of the line and it looks like this  1  1   .   Your next bet is 2  If you lose that your line looks like this 1  1  2  , and your next bet is 3 units.  Let's say we lose again betting 3 units so our line now looks like  1  1  2  3  .  If we win the next bet of 4 units, we will cross off the leftmost number and the rightmost number and our line is  1  1  2  3 .  Another win betting 3 and we have eliminated our line.  That's 4 losses and 2 wins.  So, in this case we do recover 2 losses with 1 win.  We are even to where we were before we started the cancellation method.  So all wins are from our 1 unit flat betting and all recovery comes from our cancellation method and is just to recover lost units only.

But what if we start with   1  1  1  1  1 as our line.  Now 4 losses in a row will give us this line 1  1  1  1  1  2  3  4  5.  Two wins will not recover the 4 losses.  We will still be 3 units down and our line will look like this  1  1  1  1  1  2  3  4  5 .

So, if we start out with 2  3  2  3  2  3 and reach a point where we have to split into 3 ea lines of 2  3  2  3  2  3, can we determine how many losses are recovered by each win.  My gut feeling is the more we split, the fewer losses we recover with each win.

If we always recovered 2 losses with 1 win, we should be able to win continuously without having to bet large bets by just splitting lines every time they get 3 times larger than our starting line.  I've tested this enough to know that that doesn't happen.

Here's an idea for those who want to grind out a few chips.  Let's play 10 cancellation lines.  Here's how we can play.  Start with no cancellation lines.  Flat bet 1 unit.  ALL WINS at this flat bet level go into profit.  When we have a loss write down a 1 to start our 1st cancellation line.  Go back to our flat bet until we have another loss which begins our 2nd cancellation line.  We might have 3 losses in a row and that would be the start of 3 more cancellation lines.  So now we would have 5 cancellation lines starting with a 1 like this:

1
1
1
1
1

We keep playing in this manner until we get 10 cancellation lines starting with a 1 like this:

1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1

From now on we start playing our cancellation lines starting with a 1 unit bet on our 1st line.  A win and we cross it off and move to our 2nd cancellation line.  We play each line 1 time and then move to the next line.  Any time we cross off a line completely, it is out of play and we have 1 less cancellation line.  We continue to play until we eliminate all 10 lines or we have enough losses in a line that it adds up to 10 units at which time we start 10 more lines.  Every time we have 1 line that adds up to 10, we set them aside to be played out in their turn as 10 lines.

Continue in this manner until you reach a predetermined win target.  This will be quite a grind, but my initial thoughts are that it should keep us in the game until we have a good streak of wins verses losses to bring us into profits.

What does this do to our 2 losses recovered by 1 win?

GLC

[RouletteGhost]

whoa cant wrap my head around that

maybe someone else can lol

i had an idea on how to implement the authors sytem

use it with great progression

same               1 unit
opposite          1 unit
same              1 unit
opposite         1 unit

if up or even stay at 1 unit. if down raise to 2 units for the next 4 bets

same               2 units
opposite          2 units
same              2 units
opposite         2 units

if even or up go back to 1 unit, if down go up to 3 units for the next 4

same               3 units
opposite          3 units
same              3 units
opposite         3 units

so on and so forth

may even work in the same matter but as a marty. 1 for 4 bets, 2 for 4 bets, 4 for 4 bets, and so on until you are back even or up

or might even work well with fool proof progression, after a set of 4 if down move up a unit, when up or even go down 1 unit and stay there until desired result

i think with tweaking the authors system can be a real bread winner, with the proper progression/money management

did a quick run with celtic casino live dealer baccarat, did well.....using the authors 1 2 3 6 i would have been down but with the great progression not too shabby

id like to play this with 5 cent units and watch the bankroll grow but celtic casino/5 dimes minimum is $1 and maximum $20

may try it

[psimoes]

How about staying in the winning state (either "same", either "opposite") until a loss? Just for a tweak.

Example:

B NB - Set for "Same", bet B

B W  - Maintain State until a loss

B W

B W

R L    - Set for "Opposite", bet B

B W   - Maintain until loss

R W

B W

B L    - Bet "Same" - B

R L    - Bet "Opposite" - B

R L    - Bet "Same" . R

R W

Just to take advantage of streaks and chops. This would be as 100% mechanical as the Author's, but seems 

easier to "go with the flow". What do you think?

[RouletteGhost]

Maybe a safe variation

Trying to figure out what outcome would kill it

[psimoes]

I use link:s : // : netent com/games/table-games/roulette-pro-series/ for testing system weaknesses. It's a mean RNG that let's you win with whatever system you throw at it, for about 5 minutes. Then it'll destroy your bankroll with the most insane of outcomes. I think it's a good quick test.

So I tried this tweak on that rng and made around 40 units after some 70 trials. What kills it are the same chops of two that kill the Author's. RR BB RR BB RR BB RR BB the thing just keeps on going and even throws two zeros back-to-back two times for good measure. I used Oscar's and D'Alembert progressions.
That 111-222-333 seems good. I'll try it later.

[RouletteGhost]

I dont know how to code and use the roulette softwares so I will test the authors version and your version to see which fairs better on live dealer online

I will do The 1unit for 4 bets and if down go to 2 units for 4 bets. Maybe even strings of 5 to 7 would be better than 4


Thanks

[nottophammer]

I use link:s : // : netent com/games/table-games/roulette-pro-series/ for testing system weaknesses. It's a mean RNG that let's you win with whatever system you throw at it, for about 5 minutes. Then it'll destroy your bankroll with the most insane of outcomes. I think it's a good quick test.
On the above try inspired gaming there RNG soon kills ya

So I tried this tweak on that rng and made around 40 units after some 70 trials. What kills it are the same chops of two that kill the Author's. RR BB RR BB RR BB RR BB the thing just keeps on going and even throws two zeros back-to-back two times for good measure. I used Oscar's and D'Alembert progressions.
That 111-222-333 seems good. I'll try it later.

[RouletteGhost]

test mechanically on celtic live wheel like proof does. RNG is trash

[psimoes]

Well yeah, real live spins just do their thing, not caring if you win or lose. RNGs on the contrary, have an agenda.

Just came back from the B&M casino. Flat-betting at a live table, lost two trials, won three and stopped. I'm aiming for 1 unit profit a day.

[RouletteGhost]

Won 3 out of 5 trials? If so u r a winner

[psimoes]

I think I was just lucky. And truth be told, I played the minimum bets. 5 euro per trial, 5 euro profit. That was it. Just for testing.
One day I may start to bet 50 euro per trial. Make one unit, cash in, walk out.