I was the first voter who voted for it to be locked and noticed I was the only one for quite a while, now there are three.  I support iggiv in his actions, the thread seemed like a bread crumbs and bait fishing trip right from the start.  There have been a lot of them in the past and they have all been rubbished, some probably by Warrior himself.

I also voted to lock.  What I would like is a new thread or threads where Falkor or Warrior or whoever lays out their own vision of the actual rules they are playing with and see how they specifically fare.  I don't see much value in continuing the vague discussion as everyone understands the general gist and has their own idea of where things should go from here.  The strongest methods will inevitably emerge and will gain supporters based on results and personalized playing preferences.

how about this thought

someone who had a nice strategy and decided to just explain it and let fellow members test it and see how well it works and use the forum for what it was designed for

HEY LOOK AT THAT

OK. Rules are rules. I would like to end all this right there but because Warrior keeps coming under different nicks which he is registering today, he gets 5 more days of ban. If he keeps on this way he will get more.

could someone please summarise what is wrong with warriors thread, and what he has done wrong with some examples. thanks

Quote from: Steve on Nov 29, 06:27 AM 2014
could someone please summarise what is wrong with warriors thread, and what he has done wrong with some examples. thanks

Perhaps a question that should of been asked to your Mod Squad before being asked in general public?

I have removed the "religious stuff" to its own topic
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15052.0

I'm not moving anymore, I will just delete it.

This is sad. The forum just isnt the same when I dont wake up to ignatus or proofs human name systems.

This is the last good roulette forum

Quote from: Turner on Nov 29, 10:36 AM 2014
I have removed the "religious stuff" to its own topic
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15052.0

I'm not moving anymore, I will just delete it.

good work T 

Quote from: Steve on Nov 29, 06:27 AM 2014
could someone please summarise what is wrong with warriors thread, and what he has done wrong with some examples. thanks

Hi Steve, i'm not sure but i think it was in the wrong area.  It probably should have been opened in the DOJO area of the forum.  People were walking into the testing area expecting the usual parameters, but found principles instead, like:

   *the numbers are the trees, the sleepers are the forest!*
   *if you have dirty underwear and no soap, wear the underwear backwards!*
   *what happens after 37 spins?  just bring the end to the beginning!*
   *it's two inside two inside two. there's that number two again!*
   *we want to avoid sleepers, but when a sleep hits that's the key!*
   *when 37 spins fills up, it is like the cup.  Be the water my friend!*

...and so on for 25 pages.  Not knowing they had walked into a DOJO, people did not know how to give the proper obeisance to the sensei in order to have any questions answered.  For example, if you asked "how does a sleeper HIT when you are trying to avoid them?" without the proper recognition of the sensei, you may not ever get an answer.  We found out if three students ask the same question, it may be possible to get an answer.  In this way we were able to get a theoretical win-loss registry on a sample set of 37 spins.  Upon closer examination of the win-loss registry, it was discovered that the sensei had at least three very advanced techniques to chop on the legs of the casinos until they came crashing down.  But none of those three were what the sensei had asked the students to practice until they could think of roulette differently.  So when iggiv showed up three weeks later, he found the following scene rerunning over and over:

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=fULNUr0rvEc

Here the sensei is teaching the student to "wax on, wax off"...over and over.  "Bet on each double-street (line) after it comes in, until a second unique number in the line shows up. Then cross it off the list" .  He didn't say to bet this way (he doesn't).  He just said do this until the riddles listed above could be understood.  And then, the student will know everything he needs to know in order to be able to take on giant casinos in actual combat, and bring them to their knees.   

In this way, the sensei has been able to get the students to paint his fence, wax his car, and sand his floors, gathering all kinds of data on the above betting scenario, but which the sensei himself does not bet.   Finally, iggiv walked into the DOJO and, without proper obeisance to the sensei, suggested he move on with the lessons already, after all, we had been watching the above movie scene for three weeks.  He said if the lessons don't move forward, he may have to move the thread to the DOJO section.   

Then it was revealed that everything the sensei had to teach could be found in the very first post of the DOJO, er, of the thread!  How stupid we were to have missed it!  Which meant that he wasn't planning on teaching anything more than that!  When iggiv suggested he teach more than that, all of a sudden, the sensei takes two or three low blows below the belt, leaving iggiv on the floor, gasping for air.  So iggiv put the thread in the DOJO section and warned the sensei not to dish out anymore low blows. 

But some of us are wondering how, as recently as October, the sensei was saying there are NO karate chops that can bring the casinos to their knees?  How did the sensei all of a sudden become an expert in four weeks?  The sensei seems to indicate he was an expert some six to ten years ago...but his posting history suggests otherwise.  So there are transparency issues.  The sensei has laid claim to some completely original idea, which, if the students would just understand the idea, we could possibly move onto the next scene in the movie, which would be this:

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg21M2zwG9Q

But the sensei won't move onto the next scene in the movie until at least 30 of the students learn to "wax on, wax off" properly.  The problem is that many of the students who walk into the DOJO are LAZY, and so, the sensei has to figure out how to weed them out.  Then, MAYBE, the sensei will show them why they are betting on each DS as it comes out until it closes, and why repeats are a bonus!

The problem is there is no clear agreement about WHEN, or even IF the sensei will show the students how to chop down the casinos by going for their legs.  At least the sensei has guaranteed that the game winning idea has not been thought of before.  It seems the sensei only feels obliged to drop a list of riddles (see above), and let the student come to his own conclusion about the Law of Thirds.   Meanwhile, the sensei has set the students practicing endlessly on a slight variation of Hermes 6x6  double street system until they can understand the riddles and come to know the game winning idea themselves, as he knows it, but which he can never reveal directly, lest some lazy students be gifted unworthily.   Till then the students should be grateful for an early Christmas present stuffed into their stockings, which turns out to be a slight variation of Hermes 6x6 double street system. 

So there is just a little confusion about what has been stuffed into our stockings at the moment...or what may be stuffed later on down the road.  Any day now one of the students is going to discover the meaning of the riddles in all of the data that is being collected, and we will all be rich if we are not too lazy. 

Please can everyone vote if they haven't done so already... cheers!

it should be deleted